Mercedes: Schumacher shows pace before crash

2011 Singapore GP team review

Michael Schumacher showed strong pace before colliding with Sergio Perez.

Michael Schumacher Nico Rosberg
Qualifying position 8 7
Qualifying time comparison (Q2) 1’46.043 (-0.362) 1’46.405
Race position 7
Laps 28/61 60/61
Pit stops 2 3

Mercedes drivers’ lap times throughout the race (in seconds):

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/charts/2011drivercolours.csv
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61
Michael Schumacher 124.277 117.686 116.748 117.688 117.48 116.754 116.735 117.047 118.316 126.645 138.962 116.39 119.687 117.667 115.197 114.518 114.78 114.832 115.281 115.409 115.744 115.889 117.083 124.926 133.383 113.096 114.08 114.496
Nico Rosberg 123.534 117.292 116.182 117.387 117.764 116.537 116.547 117.251 124.906 136.475 116.522 116.926 117.457 115.591 115.588 115.629 115.823 116.342 116.826 116.814 116.699 123.772 134.084 114.649 114.518 115.082 115.509 118.17 134.848 161.708 123.226 120.17 146.17 118.644 119.174 115.889 114.934 115.356 115.173 114.904 114.71 114.383 114.643 114.714 115.307 115.63 114.953 115.294 115.366 115.536 116.053 117.98 116.416 116.588 117.504 116.915 117.728 118.042 119.091 120.658

Michael Schumacher

Michael Schumacher, Mercedes, Singapore, 2011

Michael Schumacher, Mercedes, Singapore, 2011

Start tyre Super soft
Pit stop 1 Super soft 29.61s
Pit stop 2 Super soft 29.473s

Schumacher elected not to run a lap in Q3 to save tyres for the race, and still lined up eighth in front of the two Force Indias who also did not set times.

He made an opportunistic move on Lewis Hamilton at the start to move up to seventh, but lost the place back once more on lap four.

After that he ran behind Rosberg and made his first pit stop one lap after his team mate. In the second stint, while Rosberg had no traffic in front of him and both were running on a used set of super softs, Schumacher was over a second per lap faster than his team mate.

On the 29th tour he tried to follow Rosberg past Sergio Perez but found the Sauber driver defending the inside line at turn eight.

Schumacher moved to squeeze down the inside but hit the Sauber as Perez started to brake. The Mercedes started to launch but fortunately came back down before he hit the barrier.

Schumacher called the collision a “misunderstanding”:

“He was about to go inside and lifted, and I was not expecting him to do that so early, and therefore hit him. It’s probably one of those race incidents which look more impressive from outside than from inside, as I am totally OK and my impact in the end was not too heavy.”

The stewards reprimanded him for the collision.

Michael Schumacher 2011 form guide

Nico Rosberg

Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Singapore, 2011

Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Singapore, 2011

Start tyre Super soft
Pit stop 1 Super soft 29.549s
Pit stop 2 Super soft 29.417s
Pit stop 3 Soft 30.261s

Was only two tenths of a second off Felipe Massa’s time in qualifying, and took seventh on the grid.

He went into the first corner on the outside of Massa and Mark Webber and took to the run-off area. He rejoined the track in front of Massa.

Massa passed him in the braking zone for Memorial corner, and during the first lap Rosberg was told: “Everything is OK with cutting the corner.”

Hamilton appeared behind him on lap five and was quickly through, demoting the Mercedes to seventh.

Schumacher closed on him during the second stint and when they changed tyres again Schumacher again closed on his team mate who was now behind Adrian Sutil and Perez.

Rosberg overtook Perez but then made a mistake at the last corner, losing the place again. In an instant he was back down the inside of Perez at turn one and this time it was the Sauber driver who had to take to the run-off.

The safety car period solved his Sutil problem as Rosberg got out of the pits before the Force India driver.

That effectively settled his finishing position, although he was passed twice by the recovering Lewis Hamilton over the final laps.

Rosberg ran the second half of the race on soft tyres but wasn’t able to do anything about Paul di Resta ahead of him.

“I was struggling with the rear end in the race, and our car just really didn’t suit this demanding track,” said Rosberg.

“I had more problems with tyre degradation than the cars around me, which combined with having to switch our strategy when the safety car came out, meant it was impossible to make any progress.”

Nico Rosberg 2011 form guide

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66 comments on Mercedes: Schumacher shows pace before crash

  1. He was having a great race again before the crash. Also, he was over 3 tenths faster than Rosberg in Q2.

    It’s been a great couple of races for MSC… hope he can keep it up.

    • Perez didn’t weave so it was Schumacher’s fault if he didn’t get out of his way and crashed, but he is having some good races nonetheless.

      • Lol, where does anyone say Perez weaved? The first person to say it was his fault was Schuey.

        He’s been fantastically candid in his personal critique this season. An example to all other drivers, Massa & Hamilton included!

  2. Forget Singapore Schumi and concentrate on Suzuka,one of your all time favourites!!!

    Yes,yes,yes,he has the pace!!..he has the knowledge like no other,and “PLEASE” listen to Rosberg!!….he and the Merc GP team wants you to stay with them post 2012..
    Plus your Zillions of fans :)

  3. What good is pace if you can’t keep the car in control? I think the ‘misunderstanding’ on MS’s part was that he thought that was a passing place on the track, which it is not. And perhaps he thought he had enough pace to get by NR eventually, and didn’t want to see him disappear down the track after he(NR) got by SP…but again, to finish ‘first’ you must first finish. MS is overdriving the car and after so many controversial ‘front wing’ issues this season plus the borderline blocking of LH in the last race was lucky to only get a reprimand yesterday for a ridiculous and amateur-like move that never stood a chance.

    • TheBrav3 said on 26th September 2011, 16:01

      You could say the same about rosberg at turn 1 he quite clearly should have had a penalty. He started behind hamilton and after turn one where hamilton was bottled up (because he was racing on the track like all the other drivers bar rosberg) he was ahead of hamilton. Lewis didn’t get a bad start he simply had no where to go because he stuck to the track. That is out of order infact i think the reason he did it was because rosberg knew the only way he was going to keep ahead of michael during the start was to make his own version of turn 1.

    • electrolite (@electrolite) said on 26th September 2011, 16:08

      I think the ‘misunderstanding’ on MS’s part was that he thought that was a passing place on the track, which it is not.

      At that moment a pass wasn’t out of the question though. The speed and traction out of that corner he had over Perez was so great that it wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) have been difficult.

    • icemangrins (@icemangrins) said on 26th September 2011, 16:27

      I’m sure with all the valid points we all have for and against Schumi, this thread can go on for ever and ever. Just like your opinion to show Nico should have been elected the “driver of the weekend” ahead of Schumi.

      I prefer to take the positive from the race (and from the stats in this article) – obvious Mercedes GP is clearly showing progress – the car is improving and so are the team. Eventually Schumi and Nico will win races next season.

    • Aussie Fan said on 30th September 2011, 8:58

      Lol Robbie, I bet you weren’t thinking it wasn’t a psssing place when Hamilton pulled a pass at the exact same spot a few laps after the restart….. Luckily “or some would call it skill” the other guy saw him coming & left him a bit of room….

  4. I find this hilarious from adamcooperf1 twitter: “Best news of the day, Paul McCartney will play on the Sunday night of the Abu Dhabi GP!”
    “The bad news is that Britney Spears will be playing on Friday, might cause some confusion at Merc GP if she visits the paddock…”
    Britney in Britney world :D.

    back to topic:
    I think Michael is close to his old magic, Rosberg’s turn now to have to raise his game to another level

  5. That or I think if you rewatch it appears NR found himself with 2 cars side-by-side having moved inside him, ie. a 3-wide situation, and perhaps with the stewards deeming it not penalty-worthy it was because NR saved a collision from happening by ‘making his own version of turn 1.’ He also ceded the position back to FM I think it was, after passing him from cutting that corner.

    But anyway this is about MS showing pace before his crash, and to that I say ‘so what’. All kinds of drivers show pace for brief glimpses thanks to the tires, which then fall off and the pace is no longer there. One still shouldn’t be driving into other cars so often in a season.

    • icemangrins (@icemangrins) said on 26th September 2011, 16:38

      But anyway this is about MS showing pace before his crash, and to that I say ‘so what’. All kinds of drivers show pace for brief glimpses thanks to the tires, which then fall off and the pace is no longer there

      This is what Keith posted – In the second stint, while Rosberg had no traffic in front of him and both were running on a used set of super softs, Schumacher was over a second per lap faster than his team mate.

      On a idential car; set up; tires, a driver was faster than his team mate…. seriously now, you don’t like Schumi or this article highlighting someone’s race pace ;-)

    • Aussie Fan said on 30th September 2011, 9:01

      “So What?”

      Then why are you getting all defensive about it Robbie?

      Also Nico’s re-pass on Perez (which led to the whole incident anyway) was plain clumsy, Nico just barged him out of the way (again penalty worthy maybe?) . Ever think that after that Perez wasn’t in the mood to give ANY room to a Mercedes trying to pass him, hence what we saw?

  6. NR seems to be doing just fine and only need the equipment to up his game…same with MS but it is MS that is trailing NR in points…still…with 5 races left in season 2 of MS’s return to F1…I would question who’s turn it is to up his game.

    Hmmm…can’t seem to respond directly to other posters, so the above one from 4:23 was to TheBrav3, and this one is to NFS.

    • I agree with you about the equipment thing but mmmm i think if not because his DNF and mistakes Michael has already surpassed Nico in term of points and Schumi pace in last races has equaled or better than Rosberg so i think Nico might have to raise his game from now on.

      • Aussie Fan said on 30th September 2011, 9:08

        I think ROS goes for Ggory on Qualifying whereas Schumacer sets his car up for the race. But for some of the collisions & other retirements (remember Monaco where MS stormed away from ROS & was looking like heading for a strong points finish until his engine blew, whilst ROS eventuallly finished outside the points after a uneventful race) he would be going quite strongly points wise this season.

        In my opinion ROS goes for the best quali position & then hopes he doesn’t fall too far backwards on Sundays, & to be fair sometimes this works, but it isn’t the way to get the best results IMHO.

  7. 72defender (@72defender) said on 26th September 2011, 16:43

    Was never a Schumacher fan until his comeback, but must now admit he’s my favorite driver on the grid- follow by Kobayashi. His race craft is still there and if Mercedes can put together a solid car for next year there’s no reason this man can not be on the podium in 2012.

    • dkpiote said on 27th September 2011, 18:05

      strange he is your favourite driver since his comeback, when he has been at his worst in his career, and hardly a top 10 driver in the last 2 years. maybe your fanaticism of him is driven by nostalgia. the reasons he wont be on the podium in 2012 is because he is past it, mercedes is an average f1 team (made to look good at brawn gp when the car was designed by honda), nico rosberg will still be his teammate and still be beating him, there are about 8 other faster, younger more hungry drivers on the grid, and 3 teams (6 cars) have faster cars which are reliable meaning they will finish ahead of the struggling schumacher consistently.

  8. Mr draw said on 26th September 2011, 16:49

    The Mercedeses were only fast on fresh tyres. It seems they still haven’t figured out how to reduce tyre wear. Schumi would undoubtedly have suffered a lot in the final stages of the race, if it hadn’t been for his misjudgement. That was not the first time this year. It’s the same old story. Mercedes keep making the same mistakes again and again.

    • Christian said on 26th September 2011, 20:31

      I disagree, bear in mind that Schu was making his tyres last at least one more lap than Ros per stint. In the final stint, Schu’s tyres would have been three laps fresher, so I would have expected him to have better pace than Ros. Alas, we’ll never find out.

      • Mr draw said on 26th September 2011, 22:26

        Rosberg’s tyres could only last the remaining part of the race because of the safety-car phase induced by his teammate. ;)

  9. Icemangrins…I don’t like MS, and just because MS was a second faster for a brief stint when it appears MS and NR were on equal grounds (who knows about their actual setups though) does not make me now believe that MS is besting NR…NR is the one that sits 10 points ahead, with a huge lead in qualifying performance, and tends not to damage his own car through boorish moves. Again, who cares about the pace if one cannot bring the car home in one piece. For all he has perhaps ‘gained’ by finally catching up to NR after almost 2 seasons, he has lost it with ridiculous moves like on SP that had no hope. Meanwhile NR just ‘quietly’ goes about his business and still heads MS. MS (7 time WDC touted by Brawn as 2010 WDC) should have been trouncing NR (who has never won a race) from day one, yet here is where we are nearly 2 seasons in. I quess if I was an MS fan I’d be grasping at any sign of hope too.

    • *I quess if I was an MS fan I’d be grasping at any sign of hope too.*
      Or perhaps for Schumi hatred/NR fan like you been worried and uptight when Schumacher has shown glimpse of his real speed :)

    • Christian said on 26th September 2011, 20:37

      Robbie that’s a really pointless post. It’s obvious that your opinion is already made up, and you won’t change it regardless of how impressive Michael’s driving is.

      There’s no arguing with the ignorant.

    • So from that I take it that you don’t think NR is potentially a race winning driver.

      Fact is that MS has been matching NR of late, maybe doing a little better, that’s a matter of opinion. But if you think NR could win races in another car then you’d have to believe that MS could be too.

      And if you’re winning races you’re a chance at the championship. And if you’re a chance at the championship then there is no reason you should retire.

  10. NFS…”if not because his DNF and mistakes”…that’s like saying he would have won the race if not for all the cars that finished ahead of him. Put another way, if he wasn’t overdriving the car so much this season perhaps he wouldn’t have thrown away so many points and would actually be heading NR by now. But here is where we are. NR got whacked at the start of the last race, so that negates one of MS’s dnf’s. The rest of his issues are down to misjudgements and at this point I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near MS on the track for fear of race ending contact. He can’t seem to handle the pace when he finds it.

    • The point is his pace has matched Rosberg in last races. Oh he could handle it like in Canada, Spa and Monzao. could be saying about Nico as well wouldn’t want to anywhere NR, Perez for sure..It’s racing. If you want to put it this way maybe Nico just couldn’t put maximum pace of the car :D

    • MS has one more mechanical DNF than Rosberg. So, if you want to match up their ‘not his fault’ retirements then you can do that with NR’s at the last race.

      Yes, I agree with you that the rest of the gap is down to Michael’s mistakes, misjudgements and lack of pace at the start of the season.

      The trend is upward though. That’s what people are excited about. We haven’t seen the best of MS yet in this come back, but we are approaching it. This latest accident actually seems like a bit of an anomaly. I think we should take it at face value as a racing incident. I’ve had motor racing accidents like that, you expect someone to accelerate and they don’t that type of thing, it can be very tough to avoid.

      For me, he seems to make fewer mistakes as his pace improves. When he’s in a good position the battles are less desperate and his car positioning better.

    • icemangrins (@icemangrins) said on 27th September 2011, 1:29

      Again, who cares about the pace if one cannot bring the car home in one piece?

      You are right… Ideally no one cares….because it is Schumi.. We all do

      After his first stint, he was catching the pair 1 second a lap. Though we all half heartedly agree that Turn 8 isn’t the bad place to attempt an overtaking move, Perez closing the door not expecting Schumi to be there, Schumi expecting Perez to yield (remember, he said it was a misunderstanding), the adrenalin rush, plus the surprise pace MGP W02 had (at this point, Schumi doesn’t know he can’t handle the pace of a F1 car) – everything was over, before he could even back off.
      The fact that you feel that no one should be near Schumi in the track is just an exaggeration of the whole situation. This isn’t applicable to any F1 drivers (Yuji Ide) included.

      if he wasn’t overdriving the car so much this season perhaps he wouldn’t have thrown away so many points and would actually be heading NR by now.

      He made four mistakes so far this season most notably in Valencia where he got demoted to P17. Silverstone was a one off where the stop-go is still considered a bit harsh & ditto at Turkey. He could have salvaged at the maxium 12 points (which you say he threw away). Then he had retirements on three occasions which is not in his control. Inspite of all that, Nico is leading by 10 points when in 2010, Schumi was trailing by 80+ points after Singapore gp. I think Schumi did close the gap in pure race form in 2011. When FIA introduces points system for Qualifying, we can talk about his one lap form compared to his team mate. Thoughts?

      He can’t seem to handle the pace when he finds it.

      I think you just compared someone who celebrated 20 years in F1 to a caveman. He is arguably the most complete driver in the present gird. If I have to read your mind, in Lap 29 Schumi was like, “oh, what does this red button do… let me press it anyway….. woh woh woh….now, how do I stop this thing. Seriously, this is too faaaaast tchooooooo. I can’t handle the pace of a formula 1 car at this age sniff sniff

  11. snowman (@snowman) said on 26th September 2011, 21:29

    Pity Schumacher crashed as would have been interesting between him and Rosberg as he cut down a 10 second gap after the last pit stop really quickly & was looking good.

  12. David B (@david-b) said on 26th September 2011, 22:08

    Simply. I think Michael throwed away a fifth or sixth place.
    Anyway I prefer he retires after a crazy and “optimistic” move, than seeing him walking around in ninth place half a lap behind Rosberg (as he did some months ago).

    Keep up Michael!!!

  13. wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 27th September 2011, 3:32

    Has been the case with Schumacher since his comeback in F1,whenever he starts to gain the pace something horrible happens.

  14. Roberto (@roberto) said on 27th September 2011, 6:37

    I can see a lot of similarities between Schumi last season and Ham this season.. both drivers have incredible drive to succeed and just hate to drive in the midfield.. which makes them take higher risks.. Schumi made less of those mistakes this season it seems.. which kind of hints he learned to control himself a bit better.. while Ham still needs to learn the same lesson…

  15. AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 27th September 2011, 8:08

    Such a shame to see Schumacher crash out. He’s had a couple of great races recently and it would have been nice to see him do well again. I’m sure he will bounce back at Suzuka.

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