Farmers plan protest at Indian Grand Prix

F1 Fanatic round-up

In the round-up: Indian Grand Prix organisers pour scorn on a threatened by local farmers.

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Farmers threaten India’s debut F1 race (Bangkok Post)

“‘This whole thing is a big joke,’ said an executive from the company who did not want to be named. ‘People should not be taking these threats seriously. There is so much riding on the race for the company and the country, do you think we will allow a handful of farmers to spoil it?’”

Keith Collantine via Twitter

“Writing an article for the FIA’s Institute Quarterly magazine. Look out for it in their next issue.”

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Schumacher?s battle bus goes under the hammer (The Daily Telegraph)

“Designed by Pininfarina, this Iveco Domino HDH coach is offered at no reserve, with an estimated price of between ??200,000 and ??300,000. The high-roof coach was used by the F1 team during the Schumacher/Barrichello years of 2001?ǣ2005, when Schumacher won the last four of his seven world championships.”

Mark Webber via Twitter

“I’m hearing about a misquote about my plans to fight for the title next year, always possible to miss/add a few words for a good story…”

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Interview with Sam Michael (F1News.cz, PDF)

“The low-line gearbox and extreme driveshaft angles were certainly the benchmark if you’re pushing the design in that direction. I expect to see some elements of the design on other cars in 2012, regardless of the fact that it wasn’t a big enough differentiator to make the Williams a strong car this year. the design was to enable the rear lower wing to work most effectively.”

Thanks Petr Hlawiczka for the tip

Anthony Davidson via Twitter

“I reckon to make things harder for himself, Vet should drive the entire race with ‘that finger’ in the air.”

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Williams F1 Confirms Attendance at Aspire 4 Sport Congress (Williams)

“Sir Frank and at least one of the Williams F1 drivers will attend the conference.”

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63 comments on Farmers plan protest at Indian Grand Prix

  1. JPedroCQF1 (@joao-pedro-cq) said on 6th October 2011, 0:04

    Can’t you reveal what will the article for Institute Quartely be about, Keith? I’m curious now. Very curious!

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 6th October 2011, 0:14

      @joao-pedro-cq It’s on the subject of increasing the popularity of motor racing and it’s part of a group of three opinion pieces that subject. I believe one of the others is being written by Tony Fernandes.

      I will have it on the site after it’s been published.

  2. icemangrins (@icemangrins) said on 6th October 2011, 0:10

    Farmers threaten India’s debut F1 race

    This is indeed become a joke and a cheeky way to make money in the heat of the moment.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 6th October 2011, 6:45

      Hm, from what i read earlier about this, a lot is coming from selling their land, having money, but spending it unwisely, combined with the fact the track makes it a long trip to school indeed, turning kids off going.

      But reacting to it this way

      “This whole thing is a big joke,” said an executive from the company who did not want to be named.

      “People should not be taking these threats seriously. There is so much riding on the race for the company and the country, do you think we will allow a handful of farmers to spoil it?

      “We have spent $400 million dollars on the race and we will spend a few millions more if needed to have adequate security in place. We will do whatever it takes to have a wonderful event.”

      is not really the right way forward, I think.

      • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 6th October 2011, 8:22

        No, it’s not @BasCB It’s just a good way to antagonise them further. I appreciate their frustration but they should work together, not against each other. I guess some sort of subsidies would have been nice.

        • Dev (@dev) said on 6th October 2011, 10:47

          the problem is that most of the protest are backed by political parties which have vested interest in showing the ruling govt in poor light and make it look that they are anti poor or in this matter anti farmer. and none of these protest are making headlines news in India. so far i feel it’s nothing too serious…

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 6th October 2011, 13:41

      In the US “Tea Party” was joke, then “Occupy Wall St” was the newest joke.. Now both movements are gaining (weirdly) some respect tough.

      So,

      Occupy Buddh International Circuit!

  3. James (@jamesf1) said on 6th October 2011, 0:11

    Not sure if I like the changes to F1 Fanatic’s website. I liked the old one. And I dont mean this in the sense of “facebook has changed, everybody hates it and wishes it was dead” sort of dislike ;)

    Still, for as long as the content is good, I dont mind!

  4. OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 6th October 2011, 0:12

    haha davidson is one+ who hates THE FINGER. I personally don’t think it’s that bad. Alonso had that silly style of celebrating like pushing honks or something like making mouths… he also used to count his victories… Schum had the podium jump, Massa had a “fist for everyone” when he used to win… so what? I mean these drivers are full of concentration and stress for more than an hour, let them celebrate anyway they want

  5. electrolite (@electrolite) said on 6th October 2011, 0:19

    There doesn’t seem to be a lot that the unnamed ‘executive’ had to say in defence concerning the farmers being short changed for their land. Just seems they’ll bombard the issue with money and more money to sort of mask over it. I’m really excited about this Grand Prix, but this needs to get sorted beforehand, I think.

    • Joey-Poey (@joey-poey) said on 6th October 2011, 4:50

      I’m both amused and sad about his response. But what’s more amusing is he’s willing to spend “millions” on security, but not compensating a few poor farmers? Methinks he has not thought this problem through thoroughly.

  6. icemangrins (@icemangrins) said on 6th October 2011, 0:28

    pictures from the buddh international circuit

    http://yfrog.com/nvnxgvj

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 6th October 2011, 7:05

      thanks for posting those. Seems there is still quite some work to do to make everything look slick. But the most important things are in place for the race.

      • icemangrins (@icemangrins) said on 6th October 2011, 12:59

        I guess so @BasCB, and the organizers have 3 weeks time to wrap things up although it wont be in a chick shape like the Abu Dhabi circuit.

        We still dont know what’s the resolution with the customs duty issue?

        • BasCB (@bascb) said on 6th October 2011, 13:08

          I think there were some steps taken by the promotors to solve that tax issue, but as far as I know, nothing is resolved yet.

          As for the buildings, they are going to look pretty bare inside and arount the grandstands people will hope it won’t rain too much not to get lost in the mud!

  7. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 6th October 2011, 0:29

    Keith, for some reason I can’t get my avatar to work.

  8. Journeyer (@journeyer) said on 6th October 2011, 1:07

    COTD! Thanks, Keith. :)

  9. JohnBt (@johnbt) said on 6th October 2011, 1:08

    The Vettel finga is nothing new, but the way Vettel sweeps it across has a certain style which is now rather symbolic. Irritating to most simply because he’s been winning too much. Whatever, it has character to it.

    India: Oh no not again! Over dramatic or for real. Bernie, it’s not positive.

  10. deanmachine (@deanmachine) said on 6th October 2011, 1:10

    Haha! I’m doing an assignment at my college on Motorsport Logistics I think I might use that Ferrari bus as an example of track side accommodation! :P

  11. MGriffin90 (@mgriffin90) said on 6th October 2011, 2:24

    The Indian GP is beginning to resemble the Commonwealth Games. A massive farce…

  12. Thecollaroyboys (@thecollaroyboys) said on 6th October 2011, 3:17

    I doubt it’s just a cheeky way to make money in the heat of the moment, icemangrins. It’s far more likely that the farmers were forced off their land with minimal compo along with a move-or-die option.

    After the Comm Games debacle with many Aussie companies who were involved still waiting to get paid or being sued through the Indian courts on spurious claims in a hope that they will just go away, all I can imagine is a bucket of press stories about the disaster at Buddh.

    I really wish them well and look forward to the race but on past experience you’d have to be very optomistic to say that this will be incident free.

    Most Comm Games people say that India is an acronym for “I’ll Never Do It Again” – remember that Bernie.

    • Commonwealth games were run by govt and being one of the most corrupt countries in world, all things that can go wrong had happened. While govt has no role in buddh circuit. so don’t try to make stereotype out of one event.

      why many aussie companies are not getting paid is that they involved in some kind of bribing to get contracts & they are getting taken to court now.

      • On contrary said on 6th October 2011, 13:24

        Rest assured, greed is prevalent in all societies and countries, and its not just India that is corrupt.
        Following are some sample examples of recent stories from western countries (most F1 fans on this site belong to these)

        http://yhoo.it/oKtG7f
        http://bit.ly/ocxfNm
        http://bit.ly/nb4L4C
        http://bit.ly/pYuBKa
        http://bit.ly/o3mazJ

        If indeed the western countries were paragon of virtues and no corruption, malpractices existed in these countries, the world wouldn’t be in economic disarray.

        What probably Indians/Asians lack is finesse to institutionalize corruption at Government, and corporate level.

        • BasCB (@bascb) said on 6th October 2011, 13:56

          On contrary – While I fully agree that the world is full of corrupt governments, administrations, bussinesses etc., this does not mean India is not suffering from a pretty bad case, or as Raj stated it, India is

          one of the most corrupt countries in world

          so part of the grudge from the farmers may indeed lie there and its certain that was a big part of the background for the Commonwealth games fiasco.

          • On contrary said on 6th October 2011, 15:27

            What probably Indians/Asians lack is finesse to institutionalize corruption at Government, and corporate level.

            What I said was western countries have institutionalized the “lobbyists” entertain the decision makers in government. On contrary India/Asia aspire for “zero corruption”, but the inherent human greed and urge to abuse one’s power to satisfy greed ultimately takes toll of the politicians and bureaucrats and the country gets bad reputation.

            If Indian Parliament makes the lobbyist firms legal and make it legal for their Senators and congressman to accept “Gifts”, “Fees” up to a designated price tier as it is a common practice in the Western country. Suddenly there will be a paradigm shift on how we look at India.

            Point to note that the overspending and inflated prices associated with project related to the common wealth games became public and media spread it around the globe, as compared to the irregularities in hosting Athens Olympics and Beijing Olympics.
            In case of former Greeks realized the connection too late :(

  13. We shouldn’t read too much in to this farmers protest. These kind of threats are quite common in india these days. It is probably to do with population dependence on agriculture (70% of indians depend on that). so when company acquires land for development, they pay some premium to market price and land is still agricultural based, the price will not be that high. But once the buyers start developing, the land price tend to appreciate & farmers feel aggrieved that they sold land for dirt cheap and these kind of threats tend to keep prop up. It seems the hysteria around indian grand prix doesn’t get over until all 5 red lights go off on 30t oct :)

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 6th October 2011, 6:50

      A couple of weeks back (after the first reports of “unrest”) a reporter visited those villages (article was in the roundup here). Seems its part losing their scope in life without the land, as well as losing the will to work when they have quite a lot of money at hand (spending it on consumption and cars) and the fact the local school is now quite a busride away.
      But I understood its not small change they were payed here, just no one gave a thought about helping to spend it wisely.

      • Hatebreeder (@hatebreeder) said on 6th October 2011, 7:18

        I really wonder if it is actually some sort of “unrest” or one farmer standing infront of the place with a flag and that has been exaggerated. Because it would’ve come on the local channels and it hasn’t. And besides, that’s how it works around here. It’s sort of a mindset that you have to protest, if you want to be heard. It’s not really that big a deal.

      • icemangrins (@icemangrins) said on 6th October 2011, 13:04

        That’s what I read too @Raj

        Farmers have built big houses and bought SUV’s with the money they got and looks like they need more.. atleast that’s how I read it.

  14. manatcna (@manatcna) said on 6th October 2011, 3:43

    Let’s hope the farmers get a good deal

  15. matt90 (@matt90) said on 6th October 2011, 4:46

    Love the updates Keith! Well done on continuing to make the site move forwards.

    One thing I noticed though… there’s a ‘favorite’ button. ‘Favourite’ surely?

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