New Jersey confirms 2013 F1 street race plans
2013 F1 calendar
Keke Rosberg on his way to victory at Detroit in 1985
Plans for a second Grand Prix in the United States of America were formally announced today.
A street race at New Jersey will join the F1 calendar in 2013 with the title Grand Prix of America.
It will join the Unites States Grand Prix at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas which is due to join the calendar next year. It will potentially increase the number of races on the F1 calendar in 2013 to 21.
The event organisers confirmed a ten-year deal to hold the race and revealed the revised 5.15km (3.2 mile) clockwise street circuit:
The USA last held two F1 races in 1984, when street races in Detroit and Dallas were held within two weeks of each other.
F1 in New York
- New Jersey Grand Prix expected to be announced on Tuesday
- New plans for New York Grand Prix track in 2013
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- Whitmarsh: F1 needs more than one race in the USA
Image © Williams/LAT
aka_robyn (@aka_robyn) said on 25th October 2011, 20:50
I took this screen shot during the press conference, in case anyone hasn’t seen it already (showing elevation changes of the proposed circuit): http://t.co/ZNh5epfl
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll just go back to being incoherently excited. :-D
Mikemat5150 (@mikemat5150) said on 25th October 2011, 21:03
I don’t know if it’s just me but I can’t access the picture
aka_robyn (@aka_robyn) said on 25th October 2011, 21:17
Hmm. Here’s a different link (the other one was on Twitter).
asd said on 25th October 2011, 21:04
vid of the track(last part shown is now different)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adtIiPQiI5Q
aka_robyn (@aka_robyn) said on 25th October 2011, 21:20
Very cool video!
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 25th October 2011, 21:23
Thank you and thank you @aka_robyn for sharing with. The uphill section reminds me of Monaco though i’m sure it won’t be as tight a squeeze up there.
Scribe (@scribe) said on 25th October 2011, 22:07
@asd fantastic video!
Unfortunatley the spate of rubbish new tracks has made me rather cautious when it comes to new circuits but if thats really the track it looks bloody excellent!
Flowing, elevated quick, bit like Canada?
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 1:02
@scribe – between the shape and the elevation, it’s probably going to be a lot like the Montreal circuit if it were build over the top of Spa. With (virtually) no run-off – the only run-off area across the top of the circuit is an escape road at the end of JFK Boulevard.
UKFan (@) said on 26th October 2011, 2:41
Fantastic work
electrolite (@electrolite) said on 26th October 2011, 16:14
Nice!
matt90 (@matt90) said on 26th October 2011, 0:01
Great looking track. The top section is incredible, and the shore section isn’t as loaded with 90′ bends as most street circuits.
sumedh said on 26th October 2011, 6:30
Generally, when such 3D views are made, the elevation is shown at a 5x scale. In the sense, if you see a 1m elevation in the map, you are probably going to see 0.2m in real life.
So, do take this image with a pinch of salt :)
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 7:45
sumedh, the cliffs along the Hudson River – known as the Palisades – are 300 hundred feet (that’s just over 91 metres) at Weehawken, where the race will take place. By comparison, Eau Rouge is 138 feet (42 metres) from bottom to top. So the total elevation across the Port Imperial circuit will be more than double the elevation in Formula 1′s most famous corner.
So even if the elevations are exaggerated in the image, they’re still pretty extreme.
kajaja said on 25th October 2011, 20:54
Dumb question: isn’t there some kind of rule against more than one GP per country?
asd said on 25th October 2011, 21:07
no of course not, spain has two currently and the us had 3, yes 3 in 1982.
austin will be united states grand prix
jersey will be grand prix of america
Joey-Poey (@joey-poey) said on 25th October 2011, 22:02
I don’t know why they don’t simply call it the US GP East like they used. Seems far less confusing and arbitrary.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 0:13
@joey-poey – because “United States Grand Prix East” is the unofficial name of the “United States Grand Prix”.
I actually think it would make more sense to name the race in Austin the “Grand Prix of the Americas”, since the circuit is known as the Circuit of the Americas. That way, the New Jersey circuit can be the United States Grand Prix.
US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 26th October 2011, 3:19
I agree, Austin is much more centrally located in America than New Jersey is. Too bad they didn’t get this race sorted out in time to be announced before Austin.
javlinsharp (@javlinsharp) said on 25th October 2011, 22:42
Love the irony
United States Grand Prix will be held at Circuit of the Americas
While
Grand Prix of the Americas will be held in NJ. :-)
matt90 (@matt90) said on 25th October 2011, 23:52
They should name the track the ‘United States Circuit.’
Juter227 (@pino227) said on 25th October 2011, 22:04
Of course not. There are two GP’s in Spain right now.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 2:33
But they’re not both billed as being Spanish. One is the Spanish Grand Prix, and the other is the European. The idea behind the European Grand Prix is to have an extra race in Europe that is rotated through various circuits. To date, it’s been at Jerez, Donington, the Nurburgring and now Valencia.
US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 26th October 2011, 3:22
And likewise these won’t both be billed as US, one will be the Grand Prix of America, which isn’t that different from the European Grand Prix, although America is two continents…
Steve C said on 26th October 2011, 13:01
The USA had three races in ’82 and ’83.
his_majesty said on 25th October 2011, 21:01
The seating looks crappy, but for TV it looks epic. All of it is riverside. I don’t think it will allow for good viewing up on the hill from down there.
US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 26th October 2011, 3:23
Well you can’t see casino square from the harbor side grandstands at Monaco and that doesn’t seem to have hurt them any over the years.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 7:47
Indeed, street circuits rarely have wide lines of sight. It’s the nature of the beast.
Heskin Radiophonic (@heskin-radiophonic) said on 27th October 2011, 10:16
I dunno, it looks like having a race partly round an industrial estate, partly round a car park and partly round some people’s fairly narrow residential street.
It doesn’t excite me at all. Sorry.
Renner (@renner) said on 25th October 2011, 21:09
Valencia out – New Jersey in
FullSpe3d (@dryyoshi) said on 25th October 2011, 21:33
Hopefully, but unlikely
Scribe (@scribe) said on 25th October 2011, 22:08
Valencia hasn’t really been enough of a successs for the town to keep it I don’t think.
Fixy (@fixy) said on 25th October 2011, 22:32
As you pointed out some track may have to leave us. Which it will be will influence my decision on whether I’m in favour or not of this track.
ScuderiaVincero (@scuderiavincero) said on 26th October 2011, 14:54
This. Exactly this.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 25th October 2011, 21:21
And here’s a picture of the track map they presented http://twitpic.com/75oy3b/full – If it ever comest to that, @aka_robyn, how many of us could you have over at your place for a F1F meetup at that race ;-)
aka_robyn (@aka_robyn) said on 25th October 2011, 21:24
It’s a decent-sized apartment, @BasCB. Party at my place in 2013! ;-)
S-D (@s-d) said on 25th October 2011, 22:51
Yeah, I imagine the total cost of attending this race would be immense if one required a hotel room. Austin is nearer me, so I’ll see how $$ that is first :-P
aka_robyn (@aka_robyn) said on 26th October 2011, 11:52
@S-D Yeah, hotels are generally the killer for me. If I end up not being able to go to Austin, that will be the reason! (And you’re right — hotels around here are not cheap.)
US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 26th October 2011, 3:27
@aka_robyn We need to figure out how to ingratiate ourselves with someone in one of the trackside apartment buildings with a high floor balcony. From there you ought to be able to see pretty much everything. I’ll bring the chips, dip, and beer…
aka_robyn (@aka_robyn) said on 26th October 2011, 11:43
I agree, that’s really the best plan! At least we have a while to figure out how to do it…
rpiian (@rpiian) said on 26th October 2011, 18:34
My Gram lives on 3rd and 85th in Manhattan…
My grandfather also served on the Intrepid (across the river), maybe I can get a seat there :)
javlinsharp (@javlinsharp) said on 25th October 2011, 21:21
YEEEEEEESSSS
This is how I know there God Loves us. Its a long time since the COTD on this topic. http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/05/06/f1-fanatic-round-up-652010/
Waves of justification, excitement, enthusiasm, and bliss cascade over my mind like the high tide.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 25th October 2011, 21:26
@javlinsharp I’m really exited for you, I bet you’re over the moon!
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 25th October 2011, 21:32
Incredible news!
I’m really, really excited by this. I’m almost certain I will go. Is there any particular website I should follow to keep up with developments?
This would be like 2 birds with 1 stone for me. I’d live to visit New York and it seems that major attractions would be accessible enough too.
The track looks good to me. Nowhere near as many right angles as Singapore and some nice elevation change. Remind me of Monaco dare I say it.
NFS said on 25th October 2011, 22:10
“Two birds with one stone” Couldn’t agree more
US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 26th October 2011, 3:30
I plan on it. I’d love to try and make a road trip out of it and hit up Montreal as well, but we’ll have to see how my finances are come 2013.
JCost (@jcost) said on 26th October 2011, 7:24
I’m going too.
taurus (@taurus) said on 25th October 2011, 21:36
I was hoping it would be anti-clockwise, for some reason it seemed better that way.
Scribe (@scribe) said on 25th October 2011, 22:12
Do we know which way the race will be run?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 25th October 2011, 22:21
@scribe
Scribe (@scribe) said on 25th October 2011, 22:32
@Keith woops! Brain fade, hmm, I think that probably looks better for overtaking on long straight hair pin principle.
James Brickles (@brickles) said on 26th October 2011, 1:09
Makes me wonder – Which current F1 circuits would be better going in the other direction?
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 1:30
The Nurburgring might not be “better” if run in reverse, but it would certainly be interesting.
bearforce1 (@bearforce1) said on 26th October 2011, 4:19
All the tracks should alternate each year from clockwise to anticlockwise. It would double the fun.
Most likely not practical but really would be heaps fun.
verstappen (@verstappen) said on 25th October 2011, 21:38
For F1 as a whole this is good news. And for those F1F actually living in that area as well.
For me as TV audience… I’m sceptic. I know there are contracts, but if they could stop Valencia and then have this, then I would be more excited.
Magnificent Geoffrey (@magnificent-geoffrey) said on 25th October 2011, 21:42
It’s so surreal. I don’t quite think I’ve come to terms with the fact that there’ll be TWO Grands Prix in the USA in two years time – let alone a race at all!
I thought F1 days in America may have been all but over, especially after 2007. I was very surprised and excited when news broke about Austin but I’m even more surprised an even more excited by this news. New Jersey? Really? It really is happening? Wow.
I hope people in the area get excited by the news and I really do hope things all work out. The USA and all of her F1 Fanatics deserve a Grand Prix and deserve a good one at that. Two is a bonus. I’d love to go and watch it myself. Like @AndrewTanner says – New York AND F1? Two birds, one stone indeed.
Chalky (@chalky) said on 26th October 2011, 8:13
Exactly how I feel. I’ve been to NYC once. Short trip for a couple of days in the winter. Despite the snow it was an absolutely fantastic city. This is a great opportunity. Take in the sights of NYC and a F1 Grand Prix. Nothing much gets better than that.
Well maybe to expect a friendly smile off a New Yorker. ;)
Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 25th October 2011, 21:56
This is brilliant. The track looks good, which is hard for street circuits, the backdrop will be amazing and it will do what IndyCar has recognised is the best way to further the sport in America – bring it right to their doorstep, right next to America’s most famous city. This could really be the breakthrough F1 has been looking for for decades.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 25th October 2011, 22:01
@icthyes I know not many people get sentimental when it comes to Ecclestone, but he has been pushing for this for decades. This is the crown in his jewel as far as he’s concered and i’m very, very grateful.
Mike (@mike) said on 26th October 2011, 0:14
IT actually looks like a real track so far. Not a track plonked down in the middle of nowhere.
Who’s building it?
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 2:45
Tilke.
Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 26th October 2011, 5:16
…tracing the line the roads already form is hardly building it ;-) He’ll make sure there’s lots of shiny facilities to go with it though.
matt90 (@matt90) said on 26th October 2011, 13:48
Looks like he’ll be profiling the first 2 corners. As long as he doesn’t find somewhere to add a triple chicane too.
NFS said on 25th October 2011, 22:03
Awesome that’s what im talking about, looking forward to 2013 already :). Anyway is there anychance for F1 to have a racetrack near-beach, overlooking the beach maybe Hawaii etc in the future?
davidhunter13 (@davidhunter13) said on 25th October 2011, 22:09
IT really does look like an Americanised Monaco… which to me is fantastic. Has some wide bits, some windy bits, a really nice looking hairpin, and a greta overall setting and backdrop. Much better than some random track in the middle of a concrete sprawl with nothing but right angles. Perfect! The Austin track looks like a great one too, even India I think has a good look to it.
All we need now, as every other F1 fan/commentator has aid is to get rid of the hideous Valencia track which has brought absolutely nothing to the sport other than Webbers dramatic crash! We better not lose Spa cos Valencia won’t budge to accommodate this NY circuit!
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 2:46
@davidhunter13 – it is believed that, from 2013, Spa will alternate with Paul Ricard in France.
US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 26th October 2011, 3:35
Isn’t that official already?
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 26th October 2011, 4:44
Not yet.
weehawken said on 25th October 2011, 22:10
Im an F1 freak and I live in Weehawken. guess how I feel?
The place its just perfect, I go out at night for a walk everyday and the view its simply unbeatable. I feel like they are going to race in my backyard.
montyny said on 25th October 2011, 23:29
Hopefully there will be some info on places where we’ll be able to watch the events without having to pay exorbitant
prices.
Maybe a little rowboat on the river :)
Warren2185 (@warren2185) said on 25th October 2011, 23:49
In August I spent 15 minutes in that ferry terminal waiting for friends to pick me up. But you live there…cool. NYC is always great to visit. I was supposed to meet friends at Lincoln Harbor Sheratan and the closest I could get was that terminal (I kinda screwed up where I got off). So now I’m excited kind of knowing that area.
Spinmonkey (@spinmonkey) said on 26th October 2011, 1:26
So we’re both kind of lucky. I live in Austin. What are the development plans around the track, if any? Is it completely surrounded by apartments and residential? I can’t really tell from the photos.
thepostalserviceisbroke (@thepostalserviceisbroke) said on 26th October 2011, 1:45
I grew up in Palisades Park. I drove on River Road all the time and frequented the ferry port. For those who don’t know, the main straight will be right next to a cliff. It is going to look and sound EPIC! Imagine the roar of F1 engines echoing off the cliffs across the river into NYC!!!!!! :D :D :D
Steve C said on 26th October 2011, 13:02
The same as I because I live just outside Austin.
TED BELL said on 25th October 2011, 22:27
I just watched the news conference and wish all the best those who have worked so hard to get this thing off the ground. Makes me wonder what current event will now fall into the history books as a former Grand Prix. Couldn’t help but think of Australia due in part to the complaints of local government and their financial situation. If not them, then who?? Valencia?? Germany, Hockenheim in particular??
I also noted that this initial meeting with the press was kind of a mess in that no questions could be heard and the Governor sort of acted like he was at a comedy roast. The press asked many kinds of silly questions all of which made them out as lacking pretty much any knowledge of what Formula One is even about.
The event was being paraded as not costing any money to be put on, very safe , little impact to the surrounding communities , crowds of 100,000 or more and surely to bring $100 million dollars in revenue and would do it year after year.
No one asked the question ” How loud will it be??” Pretty damn loud and will certainly be underestimated. That is why we like F1…
rpiian (@rpiian) said on 26th October 2011, 19:04
I remember walking to the island in Montreal a little late for FP1 and I felt like I was already standing next to the track. The cars were sooo loud. Little did I know my ears would be maxing out like a $10 microphone. Earplugs are a fantastic investment, just don’t buy them at the track :).