Keke Rosberg, Williams, Detroit, 1985

New Jersey confirms 2013 F1 street race plans

2013 F1 calendarPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Keke Rosberg, Williams, Detroit, 1985
Keke Rosberg on his way to victory at Detroit in 1985

Plans for a second Grand Prix in the United States of America were formally announced today.

A street race at New Jersey will join the F1 calendar in 2013 with the title Grand Prix of America.

It will join the Unites States Grand Prix at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas which is due to join the calendar next year. It will potentially increase the number of races on the F1 calendar in 2013 to 21.

The event organisers confirmed a ten-year deal to hold the race and revealed the revised 5.15km (3.2 mile) clockwise street circuit:

The USA last held two F1 races in 1984, when street races in Detroit and Dallas were held within two weeks of each other.

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  1. I took this screen shot during the press conference, in case anyone hasn’t seen it already (showing elevation changes of the proposed circuit):

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll just go back to being incoherently excited. :-D

    1. I don’t know if it’s just me but I can’t access the picture

      1. Hmm. Here’s a different link (the other one was on Twitter).

    2. vid of the track(last part shown is now different)

      1. Thank you and thank you @aka_robyn for sharing with. The uphill section reminds me of Monaco though i’m sure it won’t be as tight a squeeze up there.

      2. @asd fantastic video!

        Unfortunatley the spate of rubbish new tracks has made me rather cautious when it comes to new circuits but if thats really the track it looks bloody excellent!

        Flowing, elevated quick, bit like Canada?

        1. @scribe – between the shape and the elevation, it’s probably going to be a lot like the Montreal circuit if it were build over the top of Spa. With (virtually) no run-off – the only run-off area across the top of the circuit is an escape road at the end of JFK Boulevard.

      3. Fantastic work

    3. Great looking track. The top section is incredible, and the shore section isn’t as loaded with 90′ bends as most street circuits.

    4. Generally, when such 3D views are made, the elevation is shown at a 5x scale. In the sense, if you see a 1m elevation in the map, you are probably going to see 0.2m in real life.

      So, do take this image with a pinch of salt :)

      1. sumedh, the cliffs along the Hudson River – known as the Palisades – are 300 hundred feet (that’s just over 91 metres) at Weehawken, where the race will take place. By comparison, Eau Rouge is 138 feet (42 metres) from bottom to top. So the total elevation across the Port Imperial circuit will be more than double the elevation in Formula 1’s most famous corner.

        So even if the elevations are exaggerated in the image, they’re still pretty extreme.

  2. Dumb question: isn’t there some kind of rule against more than one GP per country?

    1. no of course not, spain has two currently and the us had 3, yes 3 in 1982.

      austin will be united states grand prix
      jersey will be grand prix of america

      1. I don’t know why they don’t simply call it the US GP East like they used. Seems far less confusing and arbitrary.

        1. @joey-poey – because “United States Grand Prix East” is the unofficial name of the “United States Grand Prix”.

          I actually think it would make more sense to name the race in Austin the “Grand Prix of the Americas”, since the circuit is known as the Circuit of the Americas. That way, the New Jersey circuit can be the United States Grand Prix.

          1. I agree, Austin is much more centrally located in America than New Jersey is. Too bad they didn’t get this race sorted out in time to be announced before Austin.

      2. Love the irony

        United States Grand Prix will be held at Circuit of the Americas
        Grand Prix of the Americas will be held in NJ. :-)

        1. They should name the track the ‘United States Circuit.’

    2. Of course not. There are two GP’s in Spain right now.

      1. But they’re not both billed as being Spanish. One is the Spanish Grand Prix, and the other is the European. The idea behind the European Grand Prix is to have an extra race in Europe that is rotated through various circuits. To date, it’s been at Jerez, Donington, the Nurburgring and now Valencia.

        1. And likewise these won’t both be billed as US, one will be the Grand Prix of America, which isn’t that different from the European Grand Prix, although America is two continents…

    3. The USA had three races in ’82 and ’83.

  3. The seating looks crappy, but for TV it looks epic. All of it is riverside. I don’t think it will allow for good viewing up on the hill from down there.

    1. Well you can’t see casino square from the harbor side grandstands at Monaco and that doesn’t seem to have hurt them any over the years.

      1. Indeed, street circuits rarely have wide lines of sight. It’s the nature of the beast.

    2. I dunno, it looks like having a race partly round an industrial estate, partly round a car park and partly round some people’s fairly narrow residential street.

      It doesn’t excite me at all. Sorry.

  4. Valencia out – New Jersey in

    1. Hopefully, but unlikely

      1. Valencia hasn’t really been enough of a successs for the town to keep it I don’t think.

    2. As you pointed out some track may have to leave us. Which it will be will influence my decision on whether I’m in favour or not of this track.

    3. This. Exactly this.

  5. And here’s a picture of the track map they presented – If it ever comest to that, @aka_robyn, how many of us could you have over at your place for a F1F meetup at that race ;-)

    1. It’s a decent-sized apartment, @BasCB. Party at my place in 2013! ;-)

      1. Yeah, I imagine the total cost of attending this race would be immense if one required a hotel room. Austin is nearer me, so I’ll see how $$ that is first :-P

        1. @S-D Yeah, hotels are generally the killer for me. If I end up not being able to go to Austin, that will be the reason! (And you’re right — hotels around here are not cheap.)

      2. @aka_robyn We need to figure out how to ingratiate ourselves with someone in one of the trackside apartment buildings with a high floor balcony. From there you ought to be able to see pretty much everything. I’ll bring the chips, dip, and beer…

        1. I agree, that’s really the best plan! At least we have a while to figure out how to do it…

    2. My Gram lives on 3rd and 85th in Manhattan…

      My grandfather also served on the Intrepid (across the river), maybe I can get a seat there :)

    This is how I know there God Loves us. Its a long time since the COTD on this topic.

    Waves of justification, excitement, enthusiasm, and bliss cascade over my mind like the high tide.

    1. @javlinsharp I’m really exited for you, I bet you’re over the moon!

  7. Incredible news!

    I’m really, really excited by this. I’m almost certain I will go. Is there any particular website I should follow to keep up with developments?

    This would be like 2 birds with 1 stone for me. I’d live to visit New York and it seems that major attractions would be accessible enough too.

    The track looks good to me. Nowhere near as many right angles as Singapore and some nice elevation change. Remind me of Monaco dare I say it.

    1. “Two birds with one stone” Couldn’t agree more

    2. I plan on it. I’d love to try and make a road trip out of it and hit up Montreal as well, but we’ll have to see how my finances are come 2013.

    3. I’m going too.

  8. I was hoping it would be anti-clockwise, for some reason it seemed better that way.

    1. Do we know which way the race will be run?

      1. @scribe

        5.15km (3.2 mile) clockwise street circuit

        1. @Keith woops! Brain fade, hmm, I think that probably looks better for overtaking on long straight hair pin principle.

    2. Makes me wonder – Which current F1 circuits would be better going in the other direction?

      1. The Nurburgring might not be “better” if run in reverse, but it would certainly be interesting.

      2. All the tracks should alternate each year from clockwise to anticlockwise. It would double the fun.

        Most likely not practical but really would be heaps fun.

  9. For F1 as a whole this is good news. And for those F1F actually living in that area as well.
    For me as TV audience… I’m sceptic. I know there are contracts, but if they could stop Valencia and then have this, then I would be more excited.

  10. It’s so surreal. I don’t quite think I’ve come to terms with the fact that there’ll be TWO Grands Prix in the USA in two years time – let alone a race at all!

    I thought F1 days in America may have been all but over, especially after 2007. I was very surprised and excited when news broke about Austin but I’m even more surprised an even more excited by this news. New Jersey? Really? It really is happening? Wow.

    I hope people in the area get excited by the news and I really do hope things all work out. The USA and all of her F1 Fanatics deserve a Grand Prix and deserve a good one at that. Two is a bonus. I’d love to go and watch it myself. Like @AndrewTanner says – New York AND F1? Two birds, one stone indeed.

    1. Exactly how I feel. I’ve been to NYC once. Short trip for a couple of days in the winter. Despite the snow it was an absolutely fantastic city. This is a great opportunity. Take in the sights of NYC and a F1 Grand Prix. Nothing much gets better than that.
      Well maybe to expect a friendly smile off a New Yorker. ;)

  11. This is brilliant. The track looks good, which is hard for street circuits, the backdrop will be amazing and it will do what IndyCar has recognised is the best way to further the sport in America – bring it right to their doorstep, right next to America’s most famous city. This could really be the breakthrough F1 has been looking for for decades.

    1. @icthyes I know not many people get sentimental when it comes to Ecclestone, but he has been pushing for this for decades. This is the crown in his jewel as far as he’s concered and i’m very, very grateful.

    2. IT actually looks like a real track so far. Not a track plonked down in the middle of nowhere.

      Who’s building it?

      1. Tilke.

        1. …tracing the line the roads already form is hardly building it ;-) He’ll make sure there’s lots of shiny facilities to go with it though.

          1. Looks like he’ll be profiling the first 2 corners. As long as he doesn’t find somewhere to add a triple chicane too.

  12. Awesome that’s what im talking about, looking forward to 2013 already :). Anyway is there anychance for F1 to have a racetrack near-beach, overlooking the beach maybe Hawaii etc in the future?

  13. IT really does look like an Americanised Monaco… which to me is fantastic. Has some wide bits, some windy bits, a really nice looking hairpin, and a greta overall setting and backdrop. Much better than some random track in the middle of a concrete sprawl with nothing but right angles. Perfect! The Austin track looks like a great one too, even India I think has a good look to it.

    All we need now, as every other F1 fan/commentator has aid is to get rid of the hideous Valencia track which has brought absolutely nothing to the sport other than Webbers dramatic crash! We better not lose Spa cos Valencia won’t budge to accommodate this NY circuit!

    1. @davidhunter13 – it is believed that, from 2013, Spa will alternate with Paul Ricard in France.

      1. Isn’t that official already?

        1. Not yet.

  14. Im an F1 freak and I live in Weehawken. guess how I feel?

    The place its just perfect, I go out at night for a walk everyday and the view its simply unbeatable. I feel like they are going to race in my backyard.

    1. Hopefully there will be some info on places where we’ll be able to watch the events without having to pay exorbitant

      Maybe a little rowboat on the river :)

    2. In August I spent 15 minutes in that ferry terminal waiting for friends to pick me up. But you live there…cool. NYC is always great to visit. I was supposed to meet friends at Lincoln Harbor Sheratan and the closest I could get was that terminal (I kinda screwed up where I got off). So now I’m excited kind of knowing that area.

      1. So we’re both kind of lucky. I live in Austin. What are the development plans around the track, if any? Is it completely surrounded by apartments and residential? I can’t really tell from the photos.

    3. I grew up in Palisades Park. I drove on River Road all the time and frequented the ferry port. For those who don’t know, the main straight will be right next to a cliff. It is going to look and sound EPIC! Imagine the roar of F1 engines echoing off the cliffs across the river into NYC!!!!!! :D :D :D

    4. The same as I because I live just outside Austin.

  15. I just watched the news conference and wish all the best those who have worked so hard to get this thing off the ground. Makes me wonder what current event will now fall into the history books as a former Grand Prix. Couldn’t help but think of Australia due in part to the complaints of local government and their financial situation. If not them, then who?? Valencia?? Germany, Hockenheim in particular??
    I also noted that this initial meeting with the press was kind of a mess in that no questions could be heard and the Governor sort of acted like he was at a comedy roast. The press asked many kinds of silly questions all of which made them out as lacking pretty much any knowledge of what Formula One is even about.
    The event was being paraded as not costing any money to be put on, very safe , little impact to the surrounding communities , crowds of 100,000 or more and surely to bring $100 million dollars in revenue and would do it year after year.
    No one asked the question ” How loud will it be??” Pretty damn loud and will certainly be underestimated. That is why we like F1…

    1. I remember walking to the island in Montreal a little late for FP1 and I felt like I was already standing next to the track. The cars were sooo loud. Little did I know my ears would be maxing out like a $10 microphone. Earplugs are a fantastic investment, just don’t buy them at the track :).

  16. Well its great to have not only another Grand Prix in USA but the fact that the track is another Street Circuit.

    But yet again Concerns that linger is would it turn out to be the failure Valencia currently is? How are Teams especially low budget ones such as Virgin & HRT are going to cope with Travel & other Expenses? Furthermore,How are we going to fit all other potential races that are currently stalemate or have ongoing plans such us Russia,Mexico,Return to France & i believe South Africa as well into a ever more expanding F1 season that ranges between March – November surely Drivers & Teams dont want to spend Xmas away from their families & relatives

    Unless of course we include more back 2 back weekends which refers back to my previous statement,Its going to be incredibly stressful for the Drivers & Teams and this rule about ‘a country not having more than 2 Grand Prix’ is slowly becoming distant & pointless with the confirmation of another US Grand Prix.

    1. How will the teams afford it? Same way they do in cities like Monaco and Singapore I imagine.

    2. a ever more expanding F1 season that ranges between March – November surely Drivers & Teams dont want to spend Xmas away from their families & relatives

      The calendar won’t spill over into December.

      Some races will be replaced. If Bahrain does not happen in 2012, it may not happen again for a long time (if at all). The contracts for Valencia and Singapore will expire before 2013, while South Korea has expressed dissatisfaction. So Russia, Mexico, South Africa and New Jersey could easily slide in, taking their places if all of them do not negotiate new contracts. As for France, it is believed that they will share with Spa the way the German Grand Prix alternates between Hockenheim and the Nurburgring.

      But even if all the current races remain on the calendar, and all the bid nations want to join, it’s possible to arrange a twenty-four or twenty-five race calendar. The season might start in march, but it does not actually start until the second half of March, so there’s two weeks lying around there. And the four-week mid-season break could be cur down to two. All it would take is a few strategic back-to-back races (ie Australia/Malaysia – Malaysia and Singapore won’t like being put together – Korea/Shanghai, Abu Dhabi/Bahrain, Montreal/New Jersey, Austin/Mexico, Argentina/Brazil, Spain/Monaco and Germany/Hungary – that’s sixteen rounds) and it is perfectly feasible.

  17. Anybody notice the grandstands after the pits and how it faces ?? Seems like it is intended to view the run up to the top of the hill. Can anyone who knows the area comment on that?? Also could not tell where the pit exit is and wonder if its like Korea…who knows??

    1. It looks like the pit exit is the road that runs around the outside of the run off for the first corner. It joins the circuit after turn 2.

  18. Loving it.

  19. Ho Hum here is my pennys worth. Another street circuit in an age where run off areas are the vouge, another circuit that has nothing to do with racing but money, another circuit that will deny a true classic a place in the racing calender, another circuit that will be composed off corners that dont make sense after we scrutinize them, another circuit like all the new circuits ie………..crap.

    1. your complaints make no sense to me.

    2. Another street circuit in an age where run off areas are the vouge

      The only run-off will be along the waterfront. There is almost none up across the Palisades.

      another circuit that will deny a true classic a place in the racing calender

      By the time New Jersey is ready, Valencia will be up for a new contract. And we’ll all mourn that loss.

      1. How there are any reamaining tracks in Spain is a mystery to me, along with Hockenheim(whats that all about?)

    3. Much of what you wrote I agree with. Money is the key here and when I first heard about it I kind of had that “New Jersey ???” moment….why there of all places? Seems like the influence of the all mighty dollar is responsible for opening the idea and concept of what now appears to be the second American round in 2013.

      1. Money is always a major factor.

      2. f1 has been tainted by the love of money? WHY GOD WHY?? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?

  20. Well, I really liked the circuit. But, where’s the space alongside the track to place all the security members and their stuff, so they can get faster to the place of a supposed accident?

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