Luca di Montezemolo, Ferrari, Monza, 2011

Montezemolo: F1 must change

F1 Fanatic round-upPosted on | Author Cari Jones

In today?s round-up: Luca di Montezemolo says ??If Formula 1 still wants Ferrari it must change??, saying they will not back down over technical regulations, testing rules and third cars.


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Luca di Montezemolo says Ferrari could leave Formula 1 if rules do not change (Autosport)

??Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo has warned that his team’s continued presence in Formula 1 is dependent on major changes to the rules – as he declared it would not back down over technical regulations, testing rules and third cars.??

2012 Team Name Changes (FIA)

??The FIA, on the basis of the support expressed by its F1 commission chaired by Bernie Ecclestone, which had a meeting in Geneva on November 3, has agreed the following team name changes as from 2012:

Team Name ?ǣ New Chassis Name
Caterham F1 Team ?ǣ From Lotus to Caterham
Lotus Renault GP ?ǣ From Renault to Lotus
Marussia F1 Team ?ǣ From Virgin to Marussia

Williams confirms Raikkonen talks (ESPN)

??Williams shareholder Toto Wolff has confirmed that the team is negotiating with Kimi Raikkonen over a potential return to Formula One.??

LRGP to adopt Lotus chassis name from 2012 (Lotus Renault GP)

Eric Boullier: ??We are very pleased that our chassis name change has been approved. We have said all along that, in the interests of the sport, it is important that we remove any ambiguity on this matter. It is also important that there are clearly identifiable teams on the grid, and today?s announcement goes some way towards ensuring that.

??It is the start of another chapter for Enstone, but not a whole new beginning. The team?s history and experience will allow us to take up this challenge with a controlled and swift process. We?re very much looking forward to 2012.??

Vehicle Design Department (Red Bull)

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Lots of great F1 memories have been shared on your favourite F1 drivers & teams. alan93rsa says:

I started watching F1 in the mid 60???s. I quickly developed a huge respect for the drivers of those small fragile cars with the skinny tires. Circuits with trees at the edges and fans separated by maybe a fence in the corners. There wasn?t a lot of room for error and I feel they raced one another with a level of respect that has somehow gone missing in today?s field.

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125 comments on “Montezemolo: F1 must change”

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  1. The Ferrrari threat is just hot air, they aren’t going anywhere, there won’t be three car teams ….yes some rules need revisiting but otherwise it is nothing more than seeking some media attention before the greatest race on Earth, Formula One at the YAS MARINA.

    1. It’s not all hot air. Let’s see what Bernie says. Luca knows that Bernie loves to divid e and conquer, just look at those new engine rules, which was à one two between Luca and Bernie, to show both FIA and FOTA who are powers that be.
      So Luca just gets his usual weekly shopping list and will bring some things home…

  2. I cant help but agree with everything he said.

  3. I agree with most fans here on the latest di Montezemolo’s manifestation, I think Luca’s just trying to strengthen Ferrari’s positions before the decisive talks over the new Concorde Agreeement.

    Talking about Raikkonen, I think it’s a bit unusual for a team to openly admit that they’re trying to hire a particular driver. Normally you’d expect denials or “no comment”. This is why I think that we rather see a show than serious talks here.

  4. Ok, call me insane, but I see a way that we can get rid of the third car and customer car debates in one fell swoop, thus shutting up Luca Di Monte for the foreseeable future: Why don’t the FIA allow “privateer” entries who have full “factory” backing (kinda like MotoGP).

    What I mean is that a team could run one or two cars (whatever they choose), which is supplied to them by a manufacturer. The privateer team would be allowed to develop the car themselves or with “factory” backing (i.e. they only get upgrades 2-3 races after the factory team gets them). The privateer team could even have to use a restricted budget to stop smaller independent manufacturers like Team Lotus, HRT and Virgin from being disadvantaged. This way we get more cars on track, Luca gets his third car (and shuts up for a while), and we get more young promising drivers into F1.

    Reading this back I think it’s actually a nonsense idea, full of pitfalls and problems, but I’ve taken the time to type it up, so I’ll post it anyway! ;)

    1. All you are talking about is customer cars. And the effect you would have is that within four seasons there would only be four chassis manufacturers – Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes. Maybe you’re fine with that. I prefer 12 chassis to four.

  5. F1 could happily survive without Ferrari. LdM is just having another rant. It needs someone to call his bluff and ignore him.

  6. Luca wants to change the rules because Ferrari is not capable of dominate the championship as it happened in the past with Schumacher. This is hipocrisy as its best. :)

    Anyway ,I agree with these changes, less aerodinamy downforce will be helpful to see better races(withour artificial elements like the DRS). Free testing will be also good for the new drivers.

    1. it’s true that luca is looking after the interests of his team but it seems that you forgot the era of michael sumacher in the ferrari because your words about “Ferrari dominating because of rules as it happened with shumacher” demonstrate that
      ferrari dominate because it has the best cars(f2002-f2004…..),the best team(Todt,Brawn,Byrne..)& the best driver(shumi)
      ferrari also suffered from the rules (testing restrictions-reducing costs-engine restrictions…….)

      1. Also Ferrari had more control over the rules than any other team, being given a veto over technical regulations they did not like.

        1. i’ respect you’re opinion & maybe in some part of it it’s true but what i’m trying to said is that the team didn’t won because of th regulation

          1. When testing was allowed, they had two private test tracks.
            When budgets were allowed to explode, they were one of the biggest spenders.
            When tyre manufacturers didn’t work individually with the team, they had Bridgestone’s full weight behind them whilst Michelin was split between McLaren and Williams.
            When engines mattered, they had one of the most powerful and reliable engines around.

            Their personnel counted for a lot too but so did the regulations of the time. They did a pretty good job with them but it played to their natural strengths and advantages.

          2. I mean when the tyre manufacturers didn’t have independent relationships with each team but were allowed to ignore all but one to that team’s benefit.

          3. Their personnel counted for a lot too but so did the regulations of the time. They did a pretty good job with them but it played to their natural strengths and advantages.

            Well said @icthyes – yes, they made good use of things (in that period, in the early 90ties they also had those tracks, didn’t they?), but they also made sure that the in the Schumacher period, the rules were such that they played to what were Ferrari’s strengths.

      2. Excuse me Tifoso1989 but I havent said exactly this. Ferrari dominated between 2000 and 2005 because they had the best driver and the best team. But also because their budget was the biggest one, they had a track only for them and an excellent aerodynamic enginner as Rory Bryne.

        But this success cant be explained with the huge amount of work they did between 1996 and 2000 to improve all the areas of the team and of course because of Michael Schumacher. The german was not only the best one driving but also the best one developing cars in the free tests, he worked so hard in this area that all the championships he won were well deserved.

        So its clear that Ferrari took advantage from its strenghts to build a perfect team. But nowadayw with the rule changes they have lost almost all of them(free test+track, unlimited bugget), and the rest have been lost due to other cincunstances(the absence of MSC and Rory Bryne).

        In conclusion, Ferrari needs to adapt itself to these new times, forget the old era and modernize the structure and working methods as RB has done.

        1. Exactly, its time to move on Ferrari. A new era needs some new skills and only thinking originally and taking some risks can help get onto the right path.

  7. i don’t think that Luca’s threat about leaving F1 is a joke (even if their real intention is to continue with F1),maybe he knows that his words will influence the FIA to change the regulation or for strengthening their position before the new Concorde agreement or just trynig to remember some history(the ferrari 637 1986) i don’t know,these are politics of the sport which i don’t understand
    but the thing that i know that Formula 1 one cannot be the same without the SCUDERIA!!!!!!!!!

  8. Luca’s comments about the 3rd car are the same as those of every team boss bar Horner. We can’t win with the current rules so change them. Or team X has a barely legal device and we don’t, so ban it because it’s unfair/expensive for us to make/bad for the sport/not within the spirit of the rules (hate that last explanation!). Though it is sad it’s always Ferrari making those comments now. With their history they should know that they are capable to build a championship winning car, so quit whining and do so.

    And while testing can help other teams catch up, it also makes the leading team keep their advantage. In the Ferrari dominance era no team could even catch up with them, while now as the year progresses you can see the leading team lose some of it’s advantage (most notably Brawn in 2009).

  9. Do I agree that aero has become WAY too important? Yes.
    Do I want engine regulations to be more free (with only fuel load made standard, to encourage efficiency, as @red-andy has suggested before)? Yes.
    Do I like the idea of 3-car teams? Yes, but there wouldn’t be enough room (or money from some teams)for 36 cars and Luca knows this.

    In F1 they say you are only as good as your last race. Ferrari’s history is something to admire (and squirm at sometimes), but it has zero to do with their place in F1. They’re just another team and if they don’t like it, then they can go.

    Without F1 Ferrari would be less than F1 without Ferrari. it’s the only major series they do consistently well in and have a massive fanbase for. I’m sure a lot of that energy and some of the fanbase would go into LMP or whatever they moved on to, but it would be suicide for their marketing and sales. If you want the regulations changed, try to get them done instead of making empty threats.

  10. Happy birthday to AlonsoWDC and Paul!

    1. Good point, happy birthday to you two AlonsoWDC and Paul!

      1. Paul was my username before the site became way too large to use it as my handle.

        But I’m the only F1F with 07 November as a birthday!

        Thanks all. :)

        1. And you must be the first to get a double birthday shoutout from Keith! Congratulations ;-)

  11. Okay Luca…. Goodbye!

  12. kenneth Ntulume
    7th November 2011, 13:57

    I feel for Luca, because the time Ferrari where all that, are gone, chances are the brand of the driver surpasses the brand of a team(in terms of fans) not market value)……..
    For example if Ferrari quit say next year Alonso and Massa, could get drives and chances are there fans would follow them, and other teams would go up in terms of positions, However i must admit, Ferrari is as important to f1 as what Real-madrid is to the Champions league, but if it left the sport, it sure would go on

  13. I started watching F1 in the mid 60′s. I quickly developed a huge respect for the drivers of those small fragile cars with the skinny tires. Circuits with trees at the edges and fans separated by maybe a fence in the corners. There wasn’t a lot of room for error and I feel they raced one another with a level of respect that has somehow gone missing in today’s field.

    I agree with this. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happier if drivers don’t need to risk their lives, but the way drivers headed into a race was very different back then.

  14. sid_prasher (@)
    7th November 2011, 17:12

    Luca is suggesting things that will clearly help the manufacturers more than the private teams.
    If Ferrari leaves it will be a loss for F1 – just like it will be if McLaren leaves…it just won’t be the same without these teams but Ferrari outside F1 will also lose out. If Ferrari could have run a series on its own successfully then it would have (didn’t they kind of try that in A1GP) already done that.

    But I think a little bit of in season testing will help teams to catch up – especially in seasons like the current one where no one could come close to RBR.

  15. On the subject of the third car: I don’t want to see three Ferrari’s entered by the Ferrari team per se.

    What I wouldn’t mind seeing, though, is a relaxation on the rules on customer cars.

    Think of it like this: if it were not for customer cars, Sir Frank Williams would not have been able to break into Formula 1 and learn from the back with his Brabhams and De Tomasos.

    Look at the history of the Williams team and all it has achieved now. If Sir Frank had been looking to do what he did 40 years ago in today’s F1, he would have been told to lump it.

    The way things are, we will never see another team like Williams in F1 which is a crying shame. A team that oozes F1 to its core and exists for no other reason. The rules are too restrictive to build such a team nowadays. F1 has too many bureaucrats restricting everything and anything that moves (sometimes literally!). From teams to technical regulations, theres a rule for absolutely everything.

    Although I have no desire to see third cars on the grid for the purposes that Montezemolo wants to see them (two years ago it was to give Herr Schumacher a plaything without compromising the two main Ferrari drivers when Felipe Massa returned, now it’s to put an Italian car in Stars and Stripes apparently), I wouldn’t mind a relaxation of the rules to the extent that teams like Williams could once again be conceived in the sport.

    If they don’t do it, isn’t there a danger that Formula 1 will just be filled with commercial companies (i.e Red Bull) who ultimately have more important commercial matters on their mind than building their racing heritage?

  16. The sport must change. Especially when Ferrari lose badly to a team founded off the back of a major energy drink company! Ofcourse, and Vettel should start every race from the back aswell I suppose just for good measure? What a crybaby.

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