Rumours put Bottas at Williams and Raikkonen in a Renault

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In the round-up: Changes in the 2012 driver market.

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Is Sutil the Force India driver looking for a seat elsewhere?

There are rumours in the paddock that GP3 champion Valtteri Bottas might make the big leap up to a race seat, as Jenson Button did with Williams from F3 in 2000.”

Renault says driver decision imminent (Autosport)

“When asked about suggestions that Raikkonen was now a serious possibility with a move to Williams now looking unlikely, Boullier said: ‘Kimi is a possible scenario… yes, if you want. But the list is long, and there are even some drivers under contract [elsewhere], who have some clauses to get out of their contracts. So the list is quite long.’”

Motor racing-McLaren aero man heading for Caterham

“Caterham have recruited McLaren aerodynamics head John Iley in another technical coup for the Malaysian-backed Formula 1 outfit who raced this season as Lotus.”

Nigel Mansell via Twitter

“Congrats to [Sebastian Vettel] great lap wonderful achievement, Mark [Webber] you almost did it. Brilliant team Red Bull, good luck. Thanks everybody for your support.”

Fans disappointed by BBC picks but Auntie’s hands were tied (Daily Telegraph)

“Neither channel could pick three consecutive races. In other words, the BBC was not allowed to have three consecutive races live while Sky was not allowed three consecutive races exclusively live, which made it rather tricky.”

Weekend Breakfast (BBC Radio 5 Live on iPlayer)

I did a short interview yesterday morning on BBC Radio 5 Live, talking about the Brazilian Grand Prix and the recent announcements about the BBC and Sky’s plans for F1 coverage in 2012. You can listen to it here starting at around 1:56’44.

Brazilian GP – Conference 3 (FIA)

Vettel: “For the DRS overtaking, I think generally around here it has been a miracle track. We have seen a lot of overtaking in the last couple of years, sometimes less, but other times we have seen a lot, and a lot more than anywhere else. This track has potential to give a little extra and, in a positive way, to be a bit crazy so we will see, and I don?t think we necessarily rely on DRS to see overtaking.”

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Comment of the day

Estesark on Force India’s driver dilemma:

I don?t think many people are claiming [Adrian Sutil should be dropped].

But neither does Paul di Resta deserve the sack, while Nico Hulkenberg probably does deserve a chance to race again. Three into two won?t fit.

What would you do, if the decision was yours to make?
Estesark

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95 comments on Rumours put Bottas at Williams and Raikkonen in a Renault

  1. sozavele (@formula-1) said on 27th November 2011, 9:40

    I doubt that Raikonnen will go to Renault as BT Yahoo Sport and other websites are proclaiming that Bouiller has been in contact with, Senna, Grosjean, Sutil, Buemi, Barrichello, Luizzi, and Kovalienen as he has a clause in his contract which would allow him to leave to enter a ‘big’ team, Petrov has also been put in doubt despite having a contract he has had driven like a 2 year old this season.

    • Girts (@girts) said on 27th November 2011, 10:05

      @formula-1 According to Joe Saward, Renault is “showing only luke warm interest” in Raikkonen, which I believe is true.

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 27th November 2011, 19:10

        @girts, I would agree with him on this. Seems much more sensible to give Sutil a drive who comes with experience, solid speed and a bit of budget than Kimi who comes with just as big a question mark as Kubica will be before he is recovered and an additional price tag of several million as well.

  2. Daniel (@daniel) said on 27th November 2011, 9:58

    I hope Raikkonen did not sign with Williams. There are at least 2 options better than that. From the car perspective, I think Force India is the best (If they continue this trend next year, they’ll beat Mercedes which did not improve esentially this season). The 2nd option would be Renault, though they did not improve all season long.
    Anyway, I’m not expecting that Kimi, after a 2 years F1 absence, would do miracles. After all, he is not known as giving a good feed back to the engineers.
    As for Sutil, Vijay Mallya should keep him next season.

  3. wificats (@wificats) said on 27th November 2011, 10:10

    I actually think that Sutil has done a great job. After his inconsistent 2009 season he really picked up in 2010, being both fast and consistent.
    The first half of this season he perhaps didn’t do as well as he could have against di Resta, but in the second half he’s been right there. His qualifying performances have particularly impressed me. He’s qualified and finished regularly in the 7-10 range, which is pretty decent for a team like Force India, especially with the sheer reliability of all the other teams.

    What are people hoping for from him? The Force India just isn’t good enough for anything much better, but Sutil is definitely getting the best out of it, moreso than di Resta imo.

  4. Mark [Webber] you almost did it.

    = “Mark why didn’t you beat Seb! I’ve lost the record :( “

  5. PieLighter (@pielighter) said on 27th November 2011, 11:26

    Martin Brundle has joined Sky: http://pitpass.com/45344-Brundle-confirms-Sky-move
    At least with this, the coverage is guaranteed to be good. He also said that he will be able to do more technical features with more airtime.

  6. these all Finnish people look very similar,don’t they?

  7. If I had to choose the Force India 2012 line-up I think I would keep it how it is at the moment.

    No matter how much talent or potential a driver has, I am personally a believer in having an experienced driver in one of the race seats.

    di Resta and Hulkenberg only have one season each experience of a race drive, the team themselves will know from the feedback the drivers supply and other information which isn’t in the public domain how each of the drivers compare and they may judge that the experience that di Resta and Hulkenberg have is enough, if that is the case then it will be about performance.

    After a bad start to the season I think Sutil has improved lately, if his relatively poor early season form against his rookie teammate had continued I would probably have dropped him for 2012 in favour of Hulkenbrg but instead I think he has now done enough to keep him for another year.

    That would leave the final seat between di Resta and Hulkenberg, they both impressed me during their sole season in F1. Hulkenberg did have a slow start last year but did manage to grab pole in his last race in changeable conditions. di Resta had a good reputation when he entered F1 like most new drivers inevitably will, he beat Vettel when they were teammates in F3 in 2006 and then he switched to DTM eventually winning that championship.

    If both di Resta and Hulkenberg’s debut season had been in 2011 and with other teams, so they would be new to Force India in 2012 it would be a hard call to make, but as di Resta raced with Force India in 2011 I would keep him.

  8. Firebreather (@firebreather) said on 27th November 2011, 14:19

    If Renault dont want Senna, Kimi isnt going to Williams and Maldonado can’t pay his bills, then Rubens and Senna would make a great line up for Williams! I really dont want to see Rubens go, he’s still really fast and deserves to be on the grid a lot more than plenty of other drivers out there. It would be good for Senna aswell, as he’d have a decent teammate to learn from. It would be a shame if Senna also loses out as he the speed, but a couple of disjointed seasons isnt the best way to learn.

  9. L_A_Munro said on 27th November 2011, 14:26

    Lucas “Mr. Veloce” and L_A_Munro are the same person, ME!!

  10. good news …..BBC announce covering complete season on radio5live , all sessions

    so german RTL pictures with sound off ; commentary from the beeb

    not bad !!

  11. BasCB (@bascb) said on 27th November 2011, 19:15

    Here’s some more info on the BBC plans for next year. 120 minute extended highlights for the first two Asian races at 3pm sounds pretty solid to me.

  12. Muthu said on 29th November 2011, 9:51

    Hai Guys,

    This was a nice debate blog,
    I feel you guys have forgotten one thing :
    the team Force India has 2 partner owners
    1. Vijay Malya : company Kingfisher Beers
    2. Sahara

    Vijay Malya has the power to take decision on ! drivers seat in F1 2012 .
    Vijays Decision was ” Paul di resta ” – If he stays in the team for 2012 or the sea will be given to Nico Hulkenburg .

    Sahara is also a big non automobile group in India — but with more money .
    Sahara has always supported many indian guys for their sports in India.
    So, This time Sahara will decide to have a indian driver as a second driver or a reserve driver.
    I feel that the second driver would be a indian driver .

    if Sutil goes to Williams f1 – chances 70% , Lotus Renault, Toro Rosso .
    or Diresta goes to caterham f1 or Toro Rosso .

    Looking forward for your reply……………..
    I heard that Vijay Malya 42 % stakes in Force India will be sold
    partially. Since his one of his business in India is under bank bailout condition .

  13. Muthu said on 29th November 2011, 9:52

    Hai Guys,

    This was a nice debate blog,
    I feel you guys have forgotten one thing :
    the team Force India has 2 partner owners
    1. Vijay Malya : company Kingfisher Beers – 42%
    2. Sahara group – 42%

    Vijay Malya has the power to take decision on ! drivers seat in F1 2012 .
    Vijays Decision was ” Paul di resta ” – If he stays in the team for 2012 or the sea will be given to Nico Hulkenburg .

    Sahara is also a big non automobile group in India — but with more money .
    Sahara has always supported many indian guys for their sports in India.
    So, This time Sahara will decide to have a indian driver as a second driver or a reserve driver.
    I feel that the second driver would be a indian driver .

    if Sutil goes to Williams f1 – chances 70% .
    or Diresta goes to caterham f1 or Toro Rosso .

    Looking forward for your reply……………..
    I heard that Vijay Malya 42 % stakes in Force India will be sold
    partially. Since his one of his business in India is under bank bailout condition .

  14. Muthu said on 4th December 2011, 13:55

    Hai Guys,

    This was a nice debate blog,
    I feel you guys have forgotten one thing :
    the team Force India has 2 partner owners
    1. Vijay Malya : company Kingfisher Beers – 42% share
    2. Sahara – 42% shARE

    Vijay Malya has the power to take decision on ! drivers seat in F1 2012 .
    Vijays Decision was ” Paul di resta ” – If he stays in the team for 2012 or the sea will be given to Nico Hulkenburg .

    Sahara is also a big non automobile group in India — but with more money .
    Sahara has always supported many indian guys for their sports in India.
    So, This time Sahara will decide to have a indian driver as a second driver or a reserve driver.
    I feel that the second driver would be a indian driver . ( Narain Karthikeyan or Karun Chandok ) .

    if Sutil goes to Williams f1 – chances 70% .
    or Diresta goes to caterham f1 or Toro Rosso .

    Looking forward for your reply……………..
    I heard that Vijay Malya 42 % stakes in Force India will be sold
    partially. Since his one of his business in India is under bank bailout condition .

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