Williams loses title sponsor AT&T

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In the round-up: AT&T ends its title sponsorship of Williams.

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Top F1 links from the past 24 hours:

Williams seeking new title sponsor (Reuters)

“Media reports indicated the AT&T deal had been worth around $7m a season, a comparatively small sum compared to title sponsorships at many other teams but still an important contribution to the overall budget.”

A sign on who gets the Williams seat? (F1Enigma’s Insider Notebook)

“Another telecommunications company for title sponsorship could be… Embratel, who sponsors [Bruno] Senna. Embratel [has supported] Senna since 2006. Is this a sign on who gets the second seat?”

The politics within McLaren (Joe Saward)

McLaren and Mercedes are now entirely independent of one another, although the F1 engine supply continues. The difference is that in 2013 the team will have to pay for its engines, as Force India does.”

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Rsp123 on the chances of another Bahrain Grand Prix cancellation:

The political situation on the island state has degraded again, and there is yet more violence as the regime seem to have abandoned pledges they made only a few weeks ago. The US magazine Foreign Policy has the story here, Guardian coverage here.

We should be careful about over-egging the pudding here, but the status of the GP in Bahrain is something of a canary in the coal mine when it comes to Bahrain. The king has been received warmly by David Cameron twice (that we know of) in the last year, and his regime still enjoys international support, especially from the Saudis ?ǣ who have sent troops to help put down the protests. Why? because the protestors are largely (but by no means wholly) Shia muslims who have long endured a second-class status in Sunni-dominated Bahrain for many years.

Anyway, after last year?s cancellation, and given that the much-trumpeted “reforms” of the Bahraini government seem to have been all mouth and no trousers, who could possibly think that the FIA, the teams, and especially the sponsors, would want to go ahead with the race? It would be a disgrace.
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73 comments on Williams loses title sponsor AT&T

  1. celeste (@celeste) said on 5th January 2012, 0:08

    We need new F1 news, we have been talking about Williams all week…

    • F1andy83 said on 5th January 2012, 1:14

      I just finished watching Senna. That should be news. It shows the best driving I can remember. If Hamilton (which I really don’t like) drive back then he would not be punished as much. With that being said i wish more drivers drove like Hamilton.

      • celeste (@celeste) said on 5th January 2012, 1:53

        I saw it last week, very good movie…let me wanting more of the past F1 drivers and races…

        I don´t think Hamilton drive is that impresive, if any he mades more mistake than the others…

        Whats is interesting is the politics behind it, and certanly would like to see a Prost- Senna war like that in the present…

        • Hare (@hare) said on 5th January 2012, 2:42

          I saw Senna, loved it… then I saw TT 3D : Closer to the edge….. BLEW ME AWAY! Nuff said.

        • John H (@john-h) said on 5th January 2012, 9:39

          Whats is interesting is the politics behind it, and certanly would like to see a Prost- Senna war like that in the present…

          I think the Alonso-Hamilton situation in 2007 had the makings of it and definitely gave an extra spice to the season. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) they seem to get on rather well now!

          We also had the Vettel-Webber battle, but it didn’t quite get nasty enough ;)

        • Klaas (@klaas) said on 5th January 2012, 16:51

          Yeah, the movie is pretty good but it gave me the impression that they tried to villify Prost.

      • vho (@) said on 9th January 2012, 13:28

        Have bought the BluRay+DVD+Digital collector’s copy – which comes in a metallic case but haven’t watched it yet… spending too much time playing F1 2011 on PS3.

    • wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 5th January 2012, 2:33

      @celeste the only team that is left to do anything for 2012 is Williams as for HRT they at least have a path to follow.

    • OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 5th January 2012, 16:28

      well @celeste I’ve just read it, I have disconnected myself from F1 a little now the season is off. We all know how slow the news are when there aren’t races yet. Well, talking about Williams, I wonder how they are going to stop the downhill path they are taking now. Less money, they keep Rubens (who is obviously in decline as well, but must be a great sponsor with him) and so they are facing extinction in that way. Probably a mogul takes the opportunity of Williams’ weak state and buys it for almost nothing. (Even when we know Frank is a hard man who wouldn’t sell the team so easily, it may happen.

    • celeste (@celeste) said on 5th January 2012, 20:06

      Speaking of Senna has been nominated to Writers Guild Awards.

      DOCUMENTARY SCREENPLAY
      Better This World, written by Katie Galloway and Kelly Duane de la Vega; Loteria Films
      If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front, written by Marshall Curry and Matthew Hamachek; Oscilloscope Pictures
      Nostalgia for the Light, written by Patricio Guzmán; Icarus Films
      Pina in 3-D, screenplay by Wim Wenders; Sundance Selects
      Position Among the Stars, script by Hetty Naaijkens-Retel Helmrich and Leonard Retel Helmrich; HBO Films
      Senna, written by Manish Pandey; Producers Distribution Agency

      Is the second nomination it gets, last weeks got nominated to the Producer Guild…

  2. Carlitox (@carlitox) said on 5th January 2012, 0:13

    “Williams loses title sponsor AT&T”

    If you understand it fully it means: “Senna fills Williams vacant seat” Sad for me.

    • Journeyer (@journeyer) said on 5th January 2012, 0:32

      Not necessarily. Joe Saward says that the leading candidate for title sponsorship is Qtel. They’ve been an F1 sponsor before, albeit only for 1 race, when they sponsored Brawn at their last GP at Abu Dhabi.

      http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/01/04/rumours-from-doha/

      If anything, this strengthens the argument that they may keep Rubens Barrichello, as I doubt Qtel will ask Williams to take on any specific drivers.

      • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 1:02

        Or it could be Vitaly Petrov. He gets money from the Russian government. They could easily run that money through someone like MTS or Beeline.

        Or it could be Jaime Alguersuari. After being shafted by Toro Rosso, a company like Movistar might have decided to back him with an offer Williams could not ignore.

        The point is, it could be anyone. Mobile phone company are the new tobacco brands: they are the blue chip sponsors these days. In fact, I’d say a “major telecom company” actually lessens Senna’s chances. Senna’s personal sponsor is Embratel, and Embratel is (ultimately) owned by Carlos Slim – who is already heavily invested in Sauber, Perez and Gutierrez.

        • Mike (@mike) said on 5th January 2012, 2:40

          Rubens are apparently found sponsorship as well.

          Whoever it is. They better put in their all for Williams or they will be my least favorite driver.

        • I doubt it said on 5th January 2012, 4:37

          Or it could be Vitaly Petrov. He gets money from the Russian government.

          Where did you get this information from? Show me one more or less official Russian source confirming it, for I doubt it.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 8:30

            *facepalm*

            I never said that it would be Vitaly Petrov. Only that it could be Vitaly Petrov. Carlitox said that because Williams are talking with a telecom company, it means that Bruno Senna is going to take the second seat. I was simply trying to highlight the fallacy of his statement because every driver on the market with a sponsor could reasonably be sponsored by a telecom company, and therefore Williams negotiations with “a telecom company” does not mean that Bruno Senna will take the second seat. I very deliberately chose Petrov as an example to highlight this because of the ambiguous nature of his funding. It comes from the Russian government, and therefore it could reasonably come from any company in Russia with a government ownership. However, you appear to have missed this point and instead taken my post as spreading a rumour rather trying to disprove a statement. I’m not entirely sure how you managed this, since my post makes it pretty clear what my intended meaning is. Of course, I’m assuming you read my entire post instead of reacting to the first sentence, but then, I doubt it.

          • Klaas (@klaas) said on 5th January 2012, 16:46

            A little correction there – Petrov gets money through the Russian government (using Putin’s authority). Here is the source, it’s in Russian but there’s always Googl translator.
            http://vitalypetrov.ru/uploads/attachments/2010_aprel_-_avtorevyu.pdf

          • I doubt it said on 6th January 2012, 6:04

            @prisoner-monkeys, @klaas

            I never said that it would be Vitaly Petrov. Only that it could be Vitaly Petrov.

            I should’ve phrased it better, of course, I meant the part about the Russian government sponsoring Petrov and that was answered. Well, what can I say… I guess Russia doesn’t have any other problems to throw the money at! >:(

        • Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 5th January 2012, 11:04

          Then again, Santander sponsored both McLaren and Ferrari last year. A bit of a special case as Santander was rebranding the Abbey bank in the UK, but if it’s in Slim’s interest to promote Embratel, his support of the Sauber drivers won’t factor into it.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 11:11

            He already has two brands on the Sauber – Telmex and Claro. He could easily make that three, or drop one of them and replace it with Embratel.

    • bananarama (@bananarama) said on 5th January 2012, 1:02

      If AT&T really brought in 7million a year, I can think of at least three drivers without a seat who could more than fill that gap. I’m still hoping for Williams to turn out being a positive surprise for the new season.

      • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 1:19

        I think what Williams really need is an exciting driver – someone who inspire the same awe that the likes of Prost and Senna and Mansell and Rosberg. They haven’t really had that for a while now; I think the last driver who really epitomised the Williams attitude was Juan Pablo Montoya. And none of the drivers in talks with Williams (or signed to them) really inspire that same wow factor. I think Kamui Kobayashi, Fernando Alonso, Paul di Resta (to a lesser extent) and maybe Jean-Eric Vergne (it remains to be seen) are the only drivers on the grid who could give Williams their groove back.

        • F1andy83 said on 5th January 2012, 1:51

          I couldn’t agree more. I miss the senna Prost days. Wish drivers wouldn’t get penalized so easily anymore. Sad days for formula 1.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 2:06

            Sorry, but my post had nothing to do with the way Senna and Prost raced one another, or the way drivers get penalised. No, I’m talking about Williams’ recent string of drivers and how none of them have really captured my attention. It’s a case of “Oh, Williams have signed Pastor Maldonado”, rather than “Yes, Williams have signed Pastor Maldonado!”. Williams need a driver who can bring the fire back, someone who possesses the X-factor that can restore the team’s former glory. Senna had it. Prost had it. Mansell had it. But Jacques Villenueve was the last driver to really have it. Just look at their drivers since then: Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Ralf Schumacher, Jenson Button, Juan Pablo Montoya, Mark Webber, Nick Heidfeld, Nico Rosberg, Alexander Wurz, Kazuki Nakajima, Rubens Barrichello, Nico Hulkenberg and Pastor Maldonado. How many of those really inspired the same sense of awe as the likes of Senna and Prost and Mansell, that same sense that Williams were going to be a force to be reckoned with once the racing started? Juan Pablo Montoya was the only one to really do it – Button and Hulkenberg had potential, but never lived up to it in their sole seasons with the team.

          • sandy (@sandy) said on 5th January 2012, 2:09

            Think it was only during max mosley’s presidentship that the stewards really began to authorise their power…maybe stewards back in the day were a little wary of penalising drivers of the stature of senna ,prost etc..

          • Mike (@mike) said on 5th January 2012, 2:46

            Lets be honest PM… That was a silly post.

            Why can’t Williams attract a Senna or Prost?
            … Really?

            And you really lost me at Montoya.

            I think Williams needs a safe bet. Whoever it is.

            sense that Williams were going to be a force to be reckoned with once the racing started

            That was when the team was on top, nowadays, Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull get that.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 2:47

            maybe stewards back in the day were a little wary of penalising drivers of the stature of senna ,prost etc..

            They did it. They were just a lot more devious about it – like the time pole position at Suzuka was changed to the dirty line of the circuit. Or in 1989 when Senna was disqualified after the race for breaking a rule that several other drivers had broken without penalty.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 2:57

            @mike

            Why can’t Williams attract a Senna or Prost?
            … Really?

            You know what I mean, Mike – a driver who reminds you of Senna and Prost. You see the announcement that this particular driver has joined Williams, and you get excited for them because you want to see what they can do for the team, and what they team can do for them, the same feeling you got whwn Prost and Senna were driving for the team. Right now, I think Williams need a star driver.

            And you really lost me at Montoya.

            I always found JPM to be a pretty exciting driver. Maybe it was because he was with Raikkonen at McLaren – Raikkonen was always cold and distant, but Montoya was a firebrand. They were polar opposites, so it made for an interesting dynamic at McLaren. I found both drivers had what the other lacked, so I was disappointed that they never had a championship fight between themselves.

          • Mike (@mike) said on 5th January 2012, 4:59

            You know what I mean, Mike

            I do… But I don’t believe Williams is in a position, financial or performance wise to attract such a driver… I can only think of what, 6 or so drivers that fit that general description.

            I wasn’t a Montoya fan… I’ll leave it at that.

        • BasCB (@bascb) said on 5th January 2012, 7:23

          Yeah, I agree @prisoner-monkeys, Williams needs a leader for their team (either a driver or engineer) to head anywhere.

          The problem currently is of course, that it does not look as if any of the driver available will be that leader.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 7:58

            I reckon Kobayashi and Alonso are the only drivers on the grid who would elicit that same “Wow” reaction from me. And maybe Vergne and di Resta, but that remains to be seen.

            I am, however, liking the look of Williams’ technical shake-up: Coughlan, Somerville and I can’t recall who the third guy is. At the same time, Patrick Head and Sam Michael have left. Plus, their rhetoric has changed from “we have an aggressive design philosophy” to “we’ve taken a good, hard look at ourselves and changed what we need to”.

          • BasCB (@bascb) said on 5th January 2012, 9:01

            Surely Williams has hit rock bottom, lets hope the new team did look and learn and we will be hailing a rejuvenated Williams in a couple of years from now!

        • John H (@john-h) said on 5th January 2012, 9:40

          I think the Hulk actually was that driver, unfortunately they dumped him.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 10:51

            I think we were talking about this the other day – Nico Hulkenberg only has one person to blame for losing his seat at Williams: Nico Huelknebrg.

            Anyway, he might have had that potential at the start of the year, just as Jenson Button did. But by the end of 2010, Hulkenberg had consistently failed to live up to expectations.

          • BasCB (@bascb) said on 5th January 2012, 11:08

            @prisoner-monkeys,

            Nico Huelknebrg

            – whoever that is, it might be the right one to blame :-P

            I think you make several mistakes in your judgement there PM. There is that matter discussed the other day about talent vs. money. But mainly you blame him for what his since then dumped (but until that day very successfull) manager did.
            And you make far more of a simple press statement then you should. I have no doubt, that if Hulkenberg / his management / would have had the possibility of offering sponsorship backing of several millions, they would have used that to get a racing drive at a team. But he was never likely to be able to compete with the millions Williams got from signing Maldonado. So he and his management made the best of how the situation was in that press statement.

            Just look at the personal sponsors that Hulkenberg has. Many of them have been supporting him ever since A1GP, so he is certainly not someone who dislikes working with sponsors.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 11:15

            But mainly you blame him for what his since then dumped (but until that day very successfull) manager did.

            The decision ultiamtely rests with Hulkenberg. If Weber came to him and said “You shouldn’t have to find sponsors – you deserve to be judged on your talent”, then Hulkenberg would have to at least agree to this. And Weber was Michael Schumacher’s manager when Schumacher started his career; I can’t imagine that he would be completely oblivious to Williams’ situation at the time. The team knew they were losing four major sponsors in one hit, which is why they asked Hulkenberg to find some funds in the first place. I suspect that some small part of Weber being fired was Hulkenberg realising he could have raced in 2011, and that he had made a horrible mistake, so he parted ways with Weber to save a little face.

          • BasCB (@bascb) said on 5th January 2012, 11:24

            I suspect that some small part of Weber being fired was Hulkenberg realising he could have raced in 2011, and that he had made a horrible mistake.

            – I think its rather quite a big factor of why they parted ways.

            Don’t forget that Hulkenberg signed on with FI only after parting ways with his management.
            Nothing to do with saving face, rather with realising this was not going to help his career onward and taking a different approach to it.
            Showing he learnt from a bad desicion made in his name. To me thats a positive.

    • RBAlonso (@rbalonso) said on 5th January 2012, 1:13

      I strongly detest Sutil but I hope he gets the seat. Petrov is probably best placed if it was purely financial and I can not for the life of me understand why Williams or Senna would want to bring back thr inevitable images we now we will see. If Senna was linked to McLaren I could understand because Ayrton had glory there but Williams is just tragic.

      My money is on Sutil as he could probably take the car forward to the midfield and bring money and experience, but then so could Raikkonen.

      • sandy (@sandy) said on 5th January 2012, 1:59

        Sutil is not so strong in development area..force india’s continous improvement during the season was more due to their technical collabaration with mclaren

        • RBAlonso (@rbalonso) said on 5th January 2012, 2:08

          I agree, @sandy, but he’s got a few years left in him and Williams have had a bit of a reshuffle recently so should be back to the midfield soon.

          • Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 9th January 2012, 21:16

            I found both drivers had what the other lacked, so I was disappointed that they never had a championship fight between themselves.

            Raikkonen and Montoya did have a championship fight between themselves, 2003 remember? Sure, Schumacher won it, but both Kimi and JPM were clear title contenders.

            It’s like saying Alonso and Webber did not fight for the championship in 2010, because Vettel won it.

    • Carlitox (@carlitox) said on 5th January 2012, 15:24

      I knew I showed my point too simply. What I meant was that being the two candidates Barrichello and Senna, and with Williams money issues getting bigger and bigger, Senna has a hell of advantage over Rubinho, which is a far better driver. I mean, look at Bruno, he barely showed talent (Monza was the main exception, he was brilliant there), and Nick stayed in the Top 10 until the last race. Dropping him was LRGP 1st mistake.

      My point is, Williams is needing (sadly) pay drivers, and believe it or not, Senna is one of them. Okay, some pay drivers are very good (see Sergio Perez), but the vast majority just go there to be lapped.

      To sum up, AT&T departure reduces Barrichello’s chances greatly, and enhances Senna’s and/or Petrov’s. Another view I have is that if Williams doesn’t recover soon, it will face the same destiny of Brabham or Tyrrell.

  3. RichyB (@richyb) said on 5th January 2012, 0:20

    Interesting to read about the total severing of the Mclaren-Mercedes partnership in the form we’ve been accustomed to since 1995. Gives some credence perhaps to the rumours earlier in the season that McLaren are seeking a possible Honda return for the new 2014 engines, as a working partner to develop the new technology, as opposed to just being given engines as a customer now Mercedes are a fully fledged works outfit.

    • celeste (@celeste) said on 5th January 2012, 0:38

      Actually no, since 2009 Mercedes gave notice to Mclaren that they were lauching they own team.

      Back them Autosport explained that Mercedes as a German company wanted Mclaren to have a German driver. Thats one of the reasons why at the end of 2007 and beggining of 2008 they try to hired Rosberg and Vettel; specilly Vettel since he was named the “next” German star (at this moment Vettel still didn´t have any win at his name), by 2009 when Mercedes adquired Brawn the rumor was that they wanted a German Champion:

      Equally frustrating for Mercedes is the fact that, despite having brought Schumacher into the sport – the most successful driver in F1 history had no direct links to the brand, and that Sebastian Vettel slipped through its fingers. Thus this great German company has won races and titles with an Argentine, assorted Britons, three Finns and a Colombian, but never one from its own country.

      Yes, motor manufacturers are great at trotting out the universal line of “we’re a multinational so use the best drivers we can get” and maybe that worked internally while Mercedes was aligned with Chrysler and Mitsubishi, but in go-it-alone DB has reverted to its Germanic roots, so there is no denying that a German driver who ticks all the performance and marketing boxes would be extremely attractive to the company.
      Nico Rosberg © LAT

      One solution would, of course, be to shoehorn the highly intelligent Nico Rosberg, fluent in German, English, French, Italian and Spanish, into the second seat at McLaren from 2010, for Heikki Kovalainen’s performances could be said to have fallen short, but that would mean the commendably consistent driver going up against Lewis in what is patently a Hamilton-centric team.

      Nico’s father, Finland’s 1982 world champion Keke (mother Sina is German, hence the nationality, which in F1 is defined by passport) is a former McLaren F1 and Mercedes DTM driver and is said to have advised Nico to steer clear of McLaren for that reason. While the elder ceased managing his son last year, the latter still holds his father’s opinions in ultra-high regard.

      However, the same reservations would not apply at a Mercedes-controlled Brawn while enabling the German company to call upon a German driver who has been knocking on victory’s door for over a year now.

      I don´t think they will go back to Honda, Mercedes has the strongest engine on the field and Mclaren have the money to pay for it…

      • HoHum (@hohum) said on 5th January 2012, 1:15

        The 2014 engine is going to be a crude device relying on turbocharging to produce the design horsepower, the most technical aspect of the design will be the electronic fuel injection a technology McLaren excell at. Any decent engine producer should be able to produce the mechanical parts , Honda and the other MotoGP manufacturers will have a headstart but I would not be surprised if McLaren built their own engines, possibly in partnership with another manufacturer.

        • Mike (@mike) said on 5th January 2012, 5:03

          I wouldn’t say crude, but I’m sure this is an option (debatably viable) for Mclaren.

          However, to do it, they’d need to have plans already in place.

      • RBAlonso (@rbalonso) said on 5th January 2012, 1:22

        Mclaren’s commitment to engine suppliers may put them in a bit of a tight position. From memory the last suppliers were:
        Mercedes – who have their own team
        Peugeot – who, correct me if I’m wrong, have shown no interest in formula 1 for some years
        Ford – Not Mclaren’s most attractive offer, I imagine
        Honda – Eager for a return surely
        Porsche – Unknown motives.
        This means that unless Porsche or Honda feel that a return is necessary Mclaren will have to pay through the nose or try a new supplier, either audi, BMW or Renault. All of which appear laughable atm

  4. egsgeg said on 5th January 2012, 0:58

    Here we go with Keith’s agenda against Bahrain again…

    How dare the military defend against ‘protesters’ armed with AK’s and RPG’s. If it were happening in the US (which is just as corrupt) the protesters would be named as terrorists and that would be the end of them. However other countries – mainly those with oil – dont get such the luxury, simply because they don’t control the media.

    Personally I don’t want F1 to be used as a political tool by the media. You can all shout out about ethics, however if we were to go on ethics, there would be no races in any country. Instead we turn a blind eye and support what ever we are told to support.

    Leave our sport alone.

    • TED BELL said on 5th January 2012, 2:58

      F1 is all about politics. Italian drivers in Italian cars run by Italian teams challenging Germans who challenge the French who all challenge the all mighty British Empire whose British drivers in British cars run by British teams, and by the way act like they are kings of the hill. It is and has been always about politics. Men and their machines challenging nation against nation in pursuit the becoming World Champions. Take note, a giant is about to awake on the other side of the pond.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 5th January 2012, 7:32

      egsgeg, I really do not know what your on to here. The COTD from @rsp123 points to real concerns by existing opposition groups in Bahrain that will almost certainly make it questionable how secure any big event there in will be for quite a while.
      Which should put a big question mark over going there as soon as April this year.

      And the fact there is a lot not working as most would like in the world does not mean its rigth to put armed “security” forces with tanks out against largely unarmed protestors. Such moves are always bound to end in escalating violence and unrest.

      Bahrain had an investigation running that clearly showed a lot of things done wrong from the side of the government (and while not leaving the protestors completely blame-less, there is no indication at all of a protesting mob armed like you state).

    • GameR_K (@gamer_k) said on 5th January 2012, 8:09

      It’s a roundup article, not keith’s personal article. Save your hatred for later

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 5th January 2012, 8:09

      Yes it’s that nefarious agenda of mine where I read a comment someone has written on my site and decide to promote it to a wider audience.

      • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 8:23

        You’re a monster, @keithcollantine – or should I say ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD!?

        Yes, it was a clever, cunning plan. Audacious in its simplicity, really. But you made one tiny mistake that would be your undoing: your name. In the byline. Yes, in your eagerness to promote the comment in question, you had to make the article look like any other – which meant leaving your name at the top of the page, hoping that nobody would notice it. And you almost got away with it, didn’t you? If it weren’t for one sharp-eyed person, perusing the blog for interesting subjects, why, millions of people might have read that comment and agreed with it. J’accuse!

        Okay, I’m not really sure who I’m channeling right now. I’m either Hercule Poirot, Horatio Caine, Columbo or Inspector Clouseau. Take your pick. Either way, I’ve had my fun. I’m done.

  5. sandy (@sandy) said on 5th January 2012, 2:17

    How much do teams usually pay for a season worth of engines??
    I used to hear figures close to 40million but how do teams like HRT and marussia survive if half of their budget goes in that way?

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th January 2012, 2:50

      It varies from team to team. When they entered the sport, Virgin, Hispania and Tony Fernandes were using Cosworths priced at $5 million a season. Other teams, like Force India, will receive a discount for running a Mercedes-backed driver (like di Resta). Others still will pay full price – but different manufacturers will charge different amounts. But I very much doubt that it costs $40 million for a year’s supply of engines. Marussia and HRT are believed to be operating on budgets of ~$50 million, and in their first season, Virgin tried to compete on a budget of “less than” $40 million.

  6. Douglas6250 (@douglas6250) said on 5th January 2012, 5:19

    Another interesting point in this round up I guess, is the Toyota TF110. It really is a big shame this vehicle never raced. I mean, it had the chance, twice actually two be raced. If HRT managed to get hold onto this car they might have scored a bagful of points with that thing. Another similar question of mine is, why haven’t Mike Gascoyne pursuaded Fernandes to buy out the TF110 rather than designing a carbon fibre lunchbox from scratch as they did ? Just wondering…… Had they got the car, would they have scored points, or possibly podiums with clever strategies with the car ?

  7. sandy (@sandy) said on 5th January 2012, 6:28

    Why? To cure your insomnia?

  8. BasCB (@bascb) said on 5th January 2012, 7:13

    Peter Windsor did an interview with John Watson in 3 parts – its on youtube!

  9. McLarenFanJamm (@mclarenfanjamm) said on 5th January 2012, 19:42

    Well done to Williams for telling us what we’ve all known since New Years day. A press release prior to changing all your branding would have been a better idea.

  10. The Limit said on 9th January 2012, 23:18

    Ha Ha. Hamilton and Alonso get on well! If 2012 goes down to the wire and the championship is between those two I bet $1 million the perverbial hits the fan and fast. At the moment, Hamilton and Alonso only have sight on beating one man as does all the other drivers. I’ll give you a clue, he’s from Germany and has won the championship the past two seasons.

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