“Who cares why we are overtaking?” – Rosberg

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In the round–up: Nico Rosberg defends DRS, saying “In the end, who cares why we are overtaking?”

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115 comments on “Who cares why we are overtaking?” – Rosberg

  1. Shimks (@shimks) said on 17th January 2012, 7:21

    I know the court case is against Gribkowsky, not Ecclestone… but could all this lead to Ecclestone also being charged and sent to jail if found guilty?

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 17th January 2012, 8:32

      That would really depend pretty much on how the payment is viewed. If its a deemed a bribe, then it is possible that it would lead to a trial for bribery against BE.

      But I would not say its that likely, and even if it will rather be for the purpose of others trying to claim money from him than lead to any jail sentences.

  2. topdowntoedown (@topdowntoedown) said on 17th January 2012, 7:49

    Haha, my first COTD.

    I’d like to thank Tora Takagi, Yuji Ide, and above all Jean-Denis Delatraz. :)

  3. Alain (@paganbasque) said on 17th January 2012, 8:05

    We care Nico, we care. We want to see real F1 but it seems that this is not going to happen anymore.

    People like Newey seem to the be the real bosses of F1 as all teams and institutions involved are inventing artificial elements like the DRS or introducing these ****** tyres instead of reducing the importance of aerodynamic.

  4. Slr (@slr) said on 17th January 2012, 9:28

    I do sometimes wonder whether drivers genuinely like DRS. After a few races last year, some drivers were saying how they prefer to pass without DRS. But now we are getting many drivers defending it. I did once read that drivers are not allowed to speak negatively about DRS, but I’m not sure whether that was true or not.

    • The Last Pope (@the-last-pope) said on 17th January 2012, 10:56

      I loved how Jenson Button once said he didn’t like having to use the DRS to overtake because it was too easy and boring for a racer. So i’m sure the drivers can say what they feel.

      I’m quite suprised by Rosberg saying this. As a racer like Button i’d have though he would also crave the excitement of real race overtaking, and not motorway overtaking.

  5. Rosberg: “DRS is a great thing. In the end, who cares why we are overtaking?”

    To quote Tiff Needel: Let’s start with about 90% of the fans shall we Nico ..

    Happy birthday Bev, gabal and Gerdoner and a special happy birthday to @Ads21 who is without doubt one of my favourite fanatics and a truly great guy. I hope you’ve fully recovered from the tonsillitis and are able to have a perfect day!

  6. KoolKieren (@koolkieren) said on 17th January 2012, 12:07

    Bye Rubens

    http://en.espnf1.com/williams/motorsport/story/68089.html

    Sad to see him go after so long really…

    On a side note looks like i saw this story before Keith lol *does a small jig*

  7. ECWDanSelby (@ecwdanselby) said on 17th January 2012, 12:27

    Very odd statement from Nico.

    If we go with his view, why not ditch DRS and make it so cars must overtake X amount of times per race? Just slow down and let the other person through. Must cheaper and easier!

    ……. No?

  8. vjanik said on 17th January 2012, 12:48

    Rosberg underestimates the intelligence of an F1 fan.

  9. ECWDanSelby (@ecwdanselby) said on 17th January 2012, 12:52

    Duhh, wat do thos wingss do?! wow dey move!!

    :)

  10. AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 17th January 2012, 13:45

    A pretty poor choice of words from Rosberg but I do agree that if/when they get it right, it will make for a better experience with DRS.

    My main fear is that getting it right one year does not mean you will get it right the next. The variables are so large over just one race, over one season they’re unfathomably huge.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the races we complained about last year will be heaped with praise in 2012 and the races where DRS was perfect in 2011, turn out to be a massive miscalculation.

  11. snowman.john (@snowman-john) said on 17th January 2012, 15:45

    “Who cares why we are overtaking?” – Rosberg
    “I do. Most of the rest of the F1 fans out there do too” – Me

  12. Matty No 2 (@mattynotwo) said on 17th January 2012, 16:57

    I don’t care how they pass each other, as long as they are. I Think if there comes a time when their is to much passing, I think we should cross that bridge when we come to it.

    • ECWDanSelby (@ecwdanselby) said on 17th January 2012, 17:07

      I don’t think many would argue that there’s “too much” as such, I more think it’s the lack of skill needed to produce the overtake.

      Go back and check out how DRS can ruin a race – Turkey.

      I’m not a ‘hater’ when it comes to DRS, but it needs a fair bit of tweaking before it properly ‘works’ for this fan.

      I always thought the idea was to recreate the slipstream effect that we’ve now lost. My idea would require better technology (which i’m 99% sure F1 could do). It’d be:

      DRS activates when:
      *A car is within 0.75 seconds of the car infront (sounds complex but bare with me)
      *And it’d need to be in the slipstream of the car. I’m sure there’s sensors sophisticated enough to read when a car is behind another
      *It can be on any lap, at any time (bar in the pits, obviously)

      The key being that the wing only opens to half of what it opens now.

      If we kept the same angle that the wing opens to now, passing would become ridiculously easy, and you’d risk drivers intentionally falling behind the guy infront to gain an advantage.

      By decreasing the effect of the DRS in half, it’d offer a much more discrete ‘boost’ for the car behind (rather than what we see now).

      Aslong as they could get the sensor right, it’d work a treat.

      Plus, you could forget trying to explain where the designated DRS zones are and confusing the public even more so.

  13. Mads (@mads) said on 17th January 2012, 17:07

    Rosberg: “DRS is a great thing. In the end, who cares why we are overtaking?”

    Well if that is the fans’ attitude then lets get the water sprinklers asap and a few self-puncturing tyres they can give to the championship leader if there is a need to spice things up a bit.
    Maybe a “race leader” engine map, which restricts their engine torque by 10% or something. And with DRS available all around the track, maybe with an added restriction on KERS so that a driver can’t use it if a car behind is within 1 second..
    That would at least make for a good Hollywood movie..
    “In a world….”

  14. vho (@) said on 18th January 2012, 7:32

    The other question is whether people would prefer overtaking using DRS or seeing overtaking happening in the pits (when refuelling was legal). Personally I’d much prefer overtaking on the track than the pits, and while I would also prefer non-DRS overtaking, I won’t discredit DRS completely – perhaps where they’re positioned could be questioned and whether certain tracks need it or need two is a matter of question.

    If DRS was available in 2010 I think the WDC would’ve been Alonso. Alternatively, if had the final race been held at a more overtaking friendlier track then I believe Alonso would have also been 2010 WDC.

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