McLaren MP4-27 and MP4-26 compared

2012 F1 season

Here’s how the new McLaren MP4-27 compares with its predecessor.

Find more pictures of the McLaren MP4-27 here.

McLaren MP4-27 and MP4-26 side comparison

McLaren MP4-27 and MP4-26 side comparison

McLaren MP4-27 and MP4-26 comparison

McLaren MP4-27 and MP4-26 comparison

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116 comments on McLaren MP4-27 and MP4-26 compared

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  1. it seems the mp4-25…

  2. MattB (@mattb) said on 1st February 2012, 11:53

    Silly question perhaps… where will the number go on the side of the rear wing? It has the “Button” livery, but no number…

  3. supernicebob (@supernicebob) said on 1st February 2012, 11:54

    Noticeable rank angle there I reckon.

    • supernicebob (@supernicebob) said on 1st February 2012, 11:56

      *rake

    • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 13:25

      @supernicebob doesn’t really matter though. You could photo a car standing still with any rake angle. The real question is; how much rake can they run on track?

      • supernicebob (@supernicebob) said on 1st February 2012, 13:35

        Good point, very true. It just struck me as one of the immediately obvious differences in the two pictures.

        • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 13:41

          @supernicebob Where there could be a significant impact on this though; is how much rake was “built” into the car. The MP4-26 wasn’t built for rake. The RB7 was. So what happened was even when the floor was raked, the “car” – in terms of the sidepod intakes, the nose, were still dead-on straight. The MP4-26, which looked straight in “no-rake” mode, was basically facing down when McLaren started using rake.

          • BasCB (@bascb) said on 2nd February 2012, 14:31

            Indeed, looks as if McLaren went for Rake rather than getting air over the top as they did with the L/U sidepods last year.

  4. Elliot Horwood said on 1st February 2012, 11:55

    No Aigo sponser this year?
    Seems like there are no ‘major’ changes just changes that adhere to the new aerodynamic regulations – everything else seems to look the same apart from standard sidepods. See how the car performs on track.

    • Gabriel said on 1st February 2012, 12:22

      And no Jonny Walker sponsor on rear wing either…

      Didn’t Mclaren once run an orange Jonny Walker livery in testing before becoming a Silver arrow?

      I’m sure the sponsor spaces will be filled soon enough.

      • mayhemfunkster said on 1st February 2012, 12:32

        It was a historic McLaren Livery! – Bruce McLaren used to run his cars in orange prior to the sponsorship era.

      • I think the only reason they became a ‘silver arrow’ is because they stopped being sponsored by Marlbororo (orange and white) and instead by West (black packs of cigarettes) they have just dropped the amount of black livery in favour of more red for Vodafone.

  5. GQsm (@gqsm) said on 1st February 2012, 11:57

    I think new car has a nicer side profile.
    It’s a good looking car to me, wonder how many other cars won’t go with the horrid nose.

  6. mingmong said on 1st February 2012, 12:00

    I see they dropped the U shaped sidepods… I’m guessing the new exhaust regs may have had something to do with this… A few Newey idies have gone on to this… Rake, Mirrors & rear wing end-plates. Black rims look much better.

    • John H (@john-h) said on 1st February 2012, 12:15

      I’m pretty sure McLaren were the first to run the rear wing end plates in 2010. There is also no way to judge the rake unles we know what they’ve set the suspension levels at.

      Black rims do indeed look much better. It’s also a shorter wheelbase when you compare the tyres meaning it potentially should suit Lewis’s pointy driving style. Hope so.

      • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 13:27

        @john-h wheelbase does have an effect on handling responsiveness; but on the scale of an F1 car they’re pretty much negligible. There still won’t be much difference between the longest/shortest wheelbase cars even in the Loews hairpin.

    • GeeMac (@geemac) said on 1st February 2012, 12:46

      What do you mean on the rear wing end plates? Do you mean the vanes? If so they were a Toyota innovation (see the TF109) and were adopted by McLaren in 2011.

  7. McLarenFanJamm (@mclarenfanjamm) said on 1st February 2012, 12:01

    Yeah… I like the new car better. There are a few noticeable changes like the exhaust exits and the nose curves downwards more sharply. Proving that there is an alternative to Caterham’s interpretation of the rules.

  8. mingmong said on 1st February 2012, 12:02

    What do you guys think of the new pirelli markings?

  9. sam3110 (@sam3110) said on 1st February 2012, 12:02

    The engine cover looks a lot more simple, wonder if the cooling has been changed dramatically underneath?

  10. damonsmedley (@damonsmedley) said on 1st February 2012, 12:03

    So, so much better. Doesn’t look as long and clumsy as its two predecessors. Looks refined and compact which makes me see it as nimble and agile.

    The livery needs updating, but other than that, the car is gorgeous.

  11. necrodethmortem (@necrodethmortem) said on 1st February 2012, 12:07

    Looks like they did something about the rear-view mirrors as well.

    • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 13:43

      @necrodethmortem looks like they copied the RB7 mirrors to a T actually! Which I found confusing, seeing as McLaren have been running practically the same mirrors they used on the -26 since… Oh I don’t even remember since when.

      • The Last Pope (@the-last-pope) said on 1st February 2012, 17:01

        @raymondu999 Don’t forget both Lewis and Jensen conplained about the mirrors vibration in the MP4-26. It makes sense that a vertical mirror mounting will suffer less from vibration under high G than a diagonal & horizontal design

        • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 18:54

          @the-last-pope I don’t get the connection. The mirrors vibrate not due to lateral acceleration, but due to the turbulent air that is produced by the mirror stalk and housing itself.

          • The Last Pope (@the-last-pope) said on 1st February 2012, 20:40

            @raymondu999 thinking about that you are right about why the mirrors vibrate, but I still see that at high speed there is constant bumps that create an up and down force added to the vibration caused by air. A vertical stalk will be imune to all vertical forces where a horizontal stalk would be very suscepable to it. It also seems to me that it is better to have horizontal vibration as the mirror surface is wider than it is high.

          • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 2nd February 2012, 6:44

            @the-last-pope The problem has never been about the mirror moving up/down and left/right in the housing – it’s back and forth…. which is caused as it gets sucked by the turbulent air behind the housing.

  12. Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 12:09

    I really don’t understand how you guys all like it…

    It looks so bulky and clumsy. The nose doesn’t suit the car at all, And the side pods and engine cover… they kind of balloon out.

    It’s horrifying. Of the two so far the Caterham is way ahead :/

    • McLarenFanJamm (@mclarenfanjamm) said on 1st February 2012, 12:19

      Each to their own @mike

      • Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 12:22

        It’s nice that this site lets me speak strongly against the grain as I can see most others like it a lot.

        • McLarenFanJamm (@mclarenfanjamm) said on 1st February 2012, 12:27

          The only thing I’m not keen on is the chrome, and that’s because I’m bored of it. Would prefer a white/red livery like the 80’s.

          • Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 12:31

            Yeah, that’d be sweet.

            I’m starting to believe that something is going on with the side pods, there is no advantage to be had in larger side pods (I believe) but I can’t work it out yet.

            Why would they be so large?

            (I rant when I think)

          • Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 12:37

            I mean, the bottom of the side pods are cut in a lot, but I’m not sure it would necessitate the top be that wide.

          • McLarenFanJamm (@mclarenfanjamm) said on 1st February 2012, 12:39

            They are wide, but very shallow and slope quite steeply behind, there must be some performance advantage there.

            Also, there’s an aerial comparison pic above now which shows how compact the rear end is compared to last year.

          • Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 12:48

            That’s true.

            Maybe my mind is just playing tricks on me.

          • matt90 (@matt90) said on 1st February 2012, 13:37

            I think it’s a visual trick caused by the chrome.

    • Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 12:19

      I think they are doing something shifty with the exhausts to be honest.

    • Nick.UK (@) said on 1st February 2012, 12:42

      When I saw it, I thought it looked a but… chubby! haha. I do still like it though :)

    • damonsmedley (@damonsmedley) said on 1st February 2012, 13:13

      You’re certainly not alone, @Mike! I’ve seen plenty of people bemoaning its livery and saying it looks bulky, but personally, I quite like it. The sidepods are trim much better looking than those on the MP4-26, and the nose looks rather nice on it.

      I think it looks sort of like the MP4-25, but without the ugly shark-fin engine cover. Plus it doesn’t looks as long and clumsy to me. It seems to have a shorter wheel-base, which is a welcome sight for me as I hated the look of the 2010 cars at first. This seems much more compact and nimble. I hope it’s quick so we can have a good season!

    • dkpioe said on 2nd February 2012, 4:21

      yeh, will be interesting to see if not having the dropped front wing will be a negative for mclaren… lets see what ferrari and redbull produce.
      the car looks nearly identical to last years car, but websites like planet-f1.com are going on about how ‘beautiful’ it is. they didnt say that last year. makes me laugh. i think the thing that will keep mclaren within reach of redbull will once again be the mercedes engine and mercedes kers.

  13. Glenn (@glenn) said on 1st February 2012, 12:10

    an extended Snowplow? and that DRS wing is small at a very step angle.

    • No one seems to talk much about it, but this is the third consecutive year McLaren has a tongue-like structure beneath the nose, a sort of a double nose (which I understand is for channeling the air flow around the nose area and towards the side pods better). Correct me, anyone, is I’m wrong.

  14. Eggry (@eggry) said on 1st February 2012, 12:12

    Parts of MP4-25, Parts of MP4-26. Only exhaust looks interesting.

  15. andae23 (@andae23) said on 1st February 2012, 12:14

    Is it possible McLaren tries to hide their exhaust-system and therefore put that ugly wart on the side ???

  16. Colossal Squid (@colossal-squid) said on 1st February 2012, 12:17

    Those wing mirrors sure are raised up compared to the MP4-26. I wonder if this is due to the drivers having a higher seating in the car?
    Or maybe it’s so Lewis will be able to see Massa this season! ;)

  17. sato113 (@sato113) said on 1st February 2012, 12:18

    last years car looked better IMO. this year the mclaren looks a bit fat.

  18. I’m sure someone will do proper ones, but I did a quick one of the 25/26/27. Well actually I just took an existing comparison of the 25/26 from HunnyF1 and put the 27 in there (top/plan views), but here you go:

    http://i.imgur.com/3NrXU.jpg

    • vjanik said on 1st February 2012, 14:46

      nice one.

      It first glance i notice the exhaust blobs on the MP4-27.

      the rear is packaged differently in all three cars.

  19. Girts (@girts) said on 1st February 2012, 12:32

    I love these side comparisons, they make me wanna play “Find 10 differences”.

    Talking about the design of MP4-27, I don’t think it’s ugly although I’m a bit tired of the chrome.

    I’ll just quote David Coulthard. It is what it is.

    • Tom Bisset (@pianoshizzle) said on 1st February 2012, 12:51

      Agreed with the chrome. I don’t like it that much any more either. I however doubt that it’ll change any time soon, for example, back to the white and red of the marlboro days as it might look like a Ferrari (in the sense that Ferrari have introduced white to the wings etc). I think there would have to be a major change in sponsorship, or company image for there to be a change.

  20. scribbler (@scribbler) said on 1st February 2012, 12:33

    Guys the reason it looks bigger is the rake angle look at the gap under the car to the floor its nioticable bigger at the back under wind load it will push the car down at the back but they obviously realised that last year they didn’t have enough adjustment in the rake angle so have jacked it up at the back. Its obvious this is where redbull got quite a bit of there performance from last year as their rake angle was extreme. I think this car is a big improvement over last year aero wise and the nose is the icing on the cake. This is awesome and fills me with confidence for the 2012 season. Looks like they have some clever hidden scoops and deflectors added also to direct air to the floor and spoil the airflow at the back of the car. I think they are aiming to get in front early on and disrupt the airflow at the back as much as possible to negate the effect of the car behinds drs.

    • Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 12:38

      Dirty are would only effect the following car in the corners.

      • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 13:33

        @scribbler What @mike said. In the straights you would benefit from dirty air.

      • scribbler (@scribbler) said on 1st February 2012, 13:35

        Aero has less effect on the cars in the corners unless your talking about ground effect. the biggest effect on straightline speed is aero and drag coefficient. There for if you can spoil the air and effectively pass that dirty air onto the car behind you will slow them down. Now the DRS was introduced to give cars a fighting chance of breaking this cycle of not being able to pass but if you can spoil there clean air by the same net amount as the DRS gives them then your back at stale mate.

        • scribbler (@scribbler) said on 1st February 2012, 13:38

          Im just saying that this car looks like it will make a lot of turbulence for the car behind based on the new channels and deeper rear wing end plates. Of course its only any good if you get in front.

        • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 13:39

          @scribbler Dirty air means less drag and less downforce. What do you think slipstreaming is?

          • scribbler (@scribbler) said on 1st February 2012, 13:47

            Yes but thats a narrow sweet spot thats eroded over the years. Im talking exactly as your point suggests that by spoiling the air you break the tow.

          • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 1st February 2012, 13:52

            @scribbler For one, dirty air = slipstream/tow. The more dirty air you have, the slower the car behind is in the corners, but the less drag they will have. The following car will be slower in the corners but quicker on the straights.

            Making turbulence also causes YOU a lot of drag; and will slow your own car down. A LOT.

          • Mike (@mike) said on 1st February 2012, 16:02

            When a car moves it displaces the air behind it.
            Look at the bottom picture at this link.

            Slip streaming occurs when another car occupies this space, because there is less resistance from the air, as it has been displaced, there is less resistance from the air. Therefore the car is able to go faster than it normally would.

            However, for an F1 cars aerodynamics to work effectively it needs that air to be moving across the car.

            You can see here how a wing works (note that this is how an aeroplane wing works, which is the same as the wings on the cars, except upside down.) , as the diagram shows, because the air has to go further across the top of the wing, it moves faster, this, as the air is spread thinner, creates a low pressure zone above the wing. This is what pushes the wing up.

            When the air the wing passes through is disturbed, it means that the wing can’t function as well as it normally would.

            Down the straights this doesn’t matter as you don’t need a particularly high amount of grip but it makes it a lot harder to follow the car through the corners.

            Right, so, I hope that helps. Was a bit long. But I thought it might help.

        • matt90 (@matt90) said on 1st February 2012, 13:46

          DRS is meant to make up for the dirty air slowing cars down in the corners.

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