Patrese says Ferrari should hire an Italian

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In the round-up: Riccardo Patrese suggests Ferrari should replace Felipe Massa with a young Italian driver.

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“Maybe Ferrari, if they wanted, could have an Italian driver as the second driver in the team particularly as [Felipe] Massa hasn?t looked particularly good in the last couple of seasons. They could take a small risk to take a young Italian driver but this hasn?t happened since the time of Michele Alboreto.”

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Vjanik on why F1 needs greater variety in track design:

F1 teams build the fastest cars for the tracks that they race on. top speed is just not as important on F1 circuits as cornering speed (in terms of lap time gain) so logically team spend more time and resources on downforce. But if you took the F1 teams and gave them an oval calendar you would see how fast they can go in a straight line. remember these are prototypes that are tailored to their environment. change that, and the cars will change too.

If you took Formula 1 rules and applied them to the oval, you would get much faster lap times than by using the IndyCar rules. Thats what makes F1 the highest form of motorsport.

Don’t forget that the easiest part of the track for an F1 driver is the straight. Thats where they take a break from the g-forces, talk to their enegeneers, etc. Its also where they achieve the top speed, but if that speed was 20 or 30kph faster it wouldnt change much. they wouldnt probably even notice.

But if you can go through Eau Rouge 10kph faster, trust me, you notice. And thats where true skill and car development is. Not on the straights.

I think we should have more variability of tracks on the calendar. Not necessarily ovals, but more tracks like Monza or the old Hockenheim, so that aero is not always king.
Vjanik

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79 comments on Patrese says Ferrari should hire an Italian

  1. Denis 68 said on 28th February 2012, 5:23

    Mirko Bortolotti is clearly the one if he could get some sponsorship. He dominated Italian Formula 3 in 2008, and then set the fastest lap of that year around Ferrari’s Fiorano test track.

    He owned the FIA Formula Two Championship in 2011 finishing on the podium 14 times from a 16 race Championship and he has always been quick when he has tested F1 cars previously (Ferrari, Toro Rosso and Williams).

    He only turned 22 years of age in January, has F1 testing experience, is fast and reliable, physically very fit as stated by Williams personnel following his test with them at Abu Dhabi last year.

    Mirko and his family moved to Austria (from Trento Italy) when he was very young and as a result he has that German toughness (mental strength)attribute. He doesn’t suffer from a Latin temperament like many of his countryman.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 28th February 2012, 6:48

      <blockquote.He owned the FIA Formula Two Championship in 2011 finishing on the podium 14 times from a 16 race Championship
      Nobody takes Formula 2 seriously anymore. They lost all their good drivers after the first season. Just look at some of the so-called competition Bortolotti was up against last year – Kralev, Mun, Kowalska and Sureshwaren. When he was racing against actual, quality fields (like Formula 2 in 2009 and GP3 in 2010), he had a much harder time keeping up.

  2. realracer (@realracer) said on 28th February 2012, 11:22

    You can hardly blame Patrese for saying that, look at McLaren trying to create an all British team.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 28th February 2012, 12:04

      When did McLaren ever say they were trying to create an all-British team?

      Or is this just guesswork based on their driver line-up, ignoring such inconveniences as them having had a German engine supplier for the last 18 years?

      • realracer (@realracer) said on 28th February 2012, 14:26

        When did engine suppliers come into this, yes I am referring to their driver line-up, what exactly has Turvey done to get a top F1 testing role?? There are more eligible candidates.

        • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 28th February 2012, 15:05

          When did engine suppliers come into this,

          When I brought them into it. You called McLaren an “all-British team”, I pointed out they don’t have British engines, therefore they’re not an ‘all-British team’.

          • Ilanin said on 29th February 2012, 13:10

            Except they do have British engines, of course. Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains is a subsidiary of Daimler AG, who, yes, are a German company, but they themselves are incorporated in the United Kingdom and, of course, are based at Brixworth in Northamptonshire (as they have been ever since they were called Ilmor).

  3. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 28th February 2012, 11:36

    I just found this photo of Daniel Bruhl as Niki Lauda in Ron Howard’s Rush … but I’m not sure if this is a real photo or a Photosop job.

  4. AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 28th February 2012, 13:09

    Great COTD. Totally agree.

    I made a similar point yesterday in reply to someone.

    Lap times dictate the pace, not top speed.

  5. Riccardo Patrese suggests Ferrari should replace Felipe Massa with a young Italian driver.

    Surely they could, but right now no Italian looks strong enough for F1, let alone Ferrari.

  6. The Limit said on 28th February 2012, 16:42

    I am going to be boring and agree with the majority. No one can fault Patrese for being patriotic, but Ferrari can only hire who they believe to be the best drivers for there team. When one looks at Mercedes its a German team with two German drivers, McLaren a British team with two British drivers. However, out of those four men three of them are former world champions and thats the difference. Being from the same country is nice but its strength in depth and quality that decides who goes where, as in the best footballers always end up at the biggest clubs and the best drivers always wind up at the best F1 teams.
    For me though, I have sympathy for Massa. Too many of us are quick to forget the events of Hockenheim 2010, when Felipe, still getting back to form from a near fatal crash the year before, was ordered to allow his team mate to pass him in order to win a grands prix. Personally, I don’t think Massa has either forgotten or recovered from this event from the very team he almost won the title with in 2008.
    Could you imagine the stink you would get if McLaren ordered Hamilton to give up a win to Button or vice versa, I doubt they would do it and rightly so. I am not belittling Felipe, he’s a good guy and has alot of heart, but Ferrari screwed him over in Germany and thats all there is to it.
    If I were a driver with prospects of driving for Ferrari, one of my questions would be if the team would put me in that position? They all do it, but Ferrari at the moment has the distinct impression of being Fernando Alonso’s team and I imagine that has not gone unnoticed by the other drivers.
    If the Italians do decide to dump Massa, and it is a real possibility, they have to go with youth. I would personally put Sergio Perez in the car alongside Alonso and have done with it, mixing both youth with experience. Lets also remember the possibility that Fernando almost certainly has a vocal opinion on who his team mate should or should not be also, but Patrese is really living in la la land if he thinks there is an Italian driver of F1 standard out there at the moment.

    • Denis 68 said on 29th February 2012, 6:02

      I don’t believe Patrese is living in la la land. His statement had as much to do with Massa’s poor performance than anything else. What he’s really saying is that you could put a young Italian driver in the second Ferrari and he’s unlikely to do any worse than Massa did in season 2011.

      I would have to agree with him as I believe Mirko Bortolotti and Edouardo Mortara would have done a better job than Massa did last year. Granted he wasn’t driving a World Championship car but to not finish a race any higher than fifth place while his teammate was on the podium more often than not is very poor.

      If Massa was performing, Patrese wouldn’t have said anything.

  7. Shimks (@shimks) said on 28th February 2012, 17:39

    Riccardo Patrese’s answers to fans’ queries – Fantastic read!!!

  8. I think would be nice to have one calender in F1 to do in oval track. Interesting to see the F1 cars rolling lap by lap at top speed

  9. il Leone said on 28th February 2012, 19:50

    As a response to what someone said about Patrese crashing out in Imola ’83, I think the reason why Italians haven’t made an impact in F1 for the past few years is that they are under to much pressure to perform in order for Ferrari to notice them, and maybe that pressure is too easily recieved. If Ferrari don’t notice them, their motivation levels plummit.

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