Double DRS zones get single detection point in Melbourne

2012 Australian Grand Prix

DRS map, Melbourne, 2012

DRS map, Melbourne, 2012

The FIA has confirmed details of the two DRS zones for this weekend’s Australian Grand Prix.

Drivers will be able to use DRS on two consecutive straights during the race, leading into turns one and three.

There will be a single detection point for the two zones on the entry to turn 14.

Jenson Button said: “I think the potential of a second DRS zone will be a real benefit ?ǣ last year, along the startline wasn?t quite enough for overtaking ?ǣ I think we?ll get more benefit from a second zone.”

Last year twin DRS zones with a single activation point were used in the Canadian and European Grand Prix.

Two DRS zones were also used last year in Abu Dhabi, but each zone had its own detection point.

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113 comments on Double DRS zones get single detection point in Melbourne

  1. Jake (@jleigh) said on 14th March 2012, 17:16

    @keithcollantine Are you sure that quote is from Lewis. Sky are giving the exact same quote to Jenson. It would make more sense coming from him seeing as he was the one who got the opportunity to use it last year?

  2. Ben (@) said on 14th March 2012, 17:41

    At a certain point, wouldn’t it just be easier for the FIA to distribute overtaking vouchers at the drivers’ meeting?

    This is a rather inauspicious way to start the season if you ask me.

  3. Dizzy said on 14th March 2012, 18:10

    This is ridiculous, There shoudl be less DRS & not more.

    I got fed up last season of watching dull, boring & totally unexciting defenceless passing.

    No DRS pass in 2011 did anything to improve the racing, Just made the passing we did see less intresting as it was all boring straght line drive-by’s.

    DRS is completely ruining F1! This ridiculous, stupid & needless technology should be banned!

    As to the so called racing fans who support drs, name one example where drs did anything to add excitement last year?
    was there a single exciting moment created by drs?
    was there any moment where drs made the racing better?

    • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 14th March 2012, 19:53

      I think you have to look at DRS in a way such that you would miss its effect if it was’t there.

      Canada last year was probably the best race, mainly down to Button’s advance through the field from the very back, ultimately winning the race. He would not have been in that position to put Vettel under such pressure had it not been for a few crucial DRS assisted passes.

      • Dizzy said on 14th March 2012, 23:38

        but also talking of canada you had the ridiculous situation of schumacher who had driven a brilliant race been completely defenceless to defend his 2nd place purely because of drs.

        i;d have much rather seen a great, fair scrap between schumacher/button/webber where schumacher at least stood a chance at defending his 2nd place than button/webber simply pushing a button & cruising easily & boringly past.

        drs does nothing for me, it doesn’t intrest or excite me, it killed my intrest in 2011 & if it does the same in 2012 then f1 is dead to me untill this ridiculous device is removed, or at least untill the rules are changed to prevent the ridiculous situations we saw due to drs in 2011

      • matthew said on 15th March 2012, 6:51

        it was the weather and safety cars that helped button,and taking lewis out too who was about to overtake him for a second time in that race.it wasnt really drs,that made the race exciting.
        but thats only 1 race.

        • Robbie (@robbie) said on 15th March 2012, 13:26

          Canada became a crapshoot, with all the weather, and safety cars, and red flags, as well as the length of time the race took to get in. MS was never as high up all year, thanks to the luck of the draw on several occasions that day. And he got passed by being DRS’d sure enough, but he also used DRS to his benefit earlier in the race. And JB did nothing wrong to LH. All JB did was hold the normal racing line and it was LH that decided to attempt an unusual pass at an unusual spot on that straightaway, knowing that virtually all cars always take the line JB did, year after year, along that straight.

  4. Lord Stig (@lord-stig) said on 14th March 2012, 18:18

    We saw what a double DRS zone with one detection point does in Canada. You get one driver ahead of the other and then give the driver the opportunity to get away so he can’t lose the place. I am fine with DRS but this is going to be really dreadful. I rather have two cars close together than a fake pass and then the “overtaker” gets a cookie for doing so.

  5. Snafu (@snafu) said on 14th March 2012, 18:51

    I totally understand all the concern about single detection point but the first zone is very short for DRS overtaking unless the car behind can closely follow the car in front through turns 15 and 16. with the help of KERS and good traction out of turn 15 (and perhaps a bit of defensive moves), we won’t be seeing too many overtakes in first zone.

    • bag0 (@bag0) said on 14th March 2012, 21:55

      Well, I think thats quite a long straight down to T1, compare it to the Hungaroring mainstraight. At Hungary thats the only real spot to overtake, and to make it, you have to get right the last and the second to last corner. And drivers could overtake at the Hungaroring without DRS, so I dont think they should have a problem at the first zone in Melbourne.

      Also, I’m a fan of DRS as long as it makes overtake possible, not sure.

  6. Dave_F1 said on 14th March 2012, 19:07

    Don’t really like the idea of having a zone between turns 2 & 3 as we usually get overtaking into turn 3 anyway.

    I can see the 2nd zone just providing us with easy passing which won’t be exciting & will thus ruin the race.

    I really hope this silly DRS experiment ends soon so we get back to proper racing without silly artificial gimmicks.

  7. caci99 (@caci99) said on 14th March 2012, 19:08

    Since it was announced for two DRS zones, I feared it would have one detection point. Totally ridiculous. I do still remember Massa vs Rosberg in Turkey. Massa overtook Rosberg out of DRS zone, after that Rosberg took the chance of DRS and overtook Massa to regain his position. I am pretty sure that DRS is making drivers to not take chances along the track and wait for the DRS zone. Race after race they will develop this new tactic of overtaking, and all we will be left to watch, is going to be car vs wheelchair.

  8. SteveF1 said on 14th March 2012, 19:38

    so we still have this drs thing in f1 this year, was hoping it would go away over the winter.

    i went into 2011 somewhere in the middle on drs & came out of 2011 absolubely hating the damn thing.

    i had turned against drs before this but i completely turned against after spa when i saw webbers awesome overtake of alonso at eau rouge come to nothing a lap later when fernando simply cruised back past webber easily due to the silly drs wing.

    went from hating to loathing it after abu dhabi with all that frankly absurd passing-repassing stupidity.

  9. AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 14th March 2012, 19:47

    My understanding was that the only reason the FIA didn’t employ double detection initially was because of technical restraints. I thought they overcame that last year?

    However, doesn’t seem fair to knock it until the race is over.

    • Dizzy said on 14th March 2012, 19:52

      However, doesn’t seem fair to knock it until the race is over.

      why not, we have already had a year with drs which was more than enough time to figure out that the system as there using it doesn’t work to produce better racing!

  10. DMC (@dmc) said on 14th March 2012, 19:59

    I hope we are not going down the american route of more is better
    just to attract the veiwers.

    • Jonathan189 (@jonathan189) said on 15th March 2012, 8:32

      Specifically, they are trying to attract American viewers in preparation for Austin and New Jersey…

      From next season, the cars will have to come into the pits at the end of each lap to allow time for a commercial break.

  11. il Leone said on 14th March 2012, 20:11

    I can see why they’ve done it, I mean Turn One isn’t really a corner you would expect to overtake anyone, you have to turn quite early into that corner, whereas three is a real overtaking corner.

  12. Dave said on 14th March 2012, 20:12

    Not sure I agree with the majority of comments here. If the straight after turn 2 was purely a completely straight line, then I would agree. But it isn’t.

    For anyone who is behind another driver, I really don’t think it will be all plain sailing due to the way the turn 3 braking zone is, plus taking into account the gradual bend from turn 2 into turn 3 means that it’s not the easiest of overtaking opportunities.

    In fact, I’d probably bet higher on someone running into the gravel or smashing into someone at turn 3 because of DRS compared to the probability of ‘fake’ overtaking at that bend due to the nature of the straight and braking zone.

    • bosyber (@bosyber) said on 14th March 2012, 21:05

      So Dave, you also see issues with this set of DRS zones, but disagree in the reason why it is a bad idea, thinking it might not actually be too much to have two zones, but also fearing that it is unsafe?

      I hope your estimate of the DRS effectiveness comes true for us all, but certainly hope no one crashes into others due to DRS, that would really be bad!

  13. Patrick Traille said on 14th March 2012, 21:17

    It will make things interesting: 1) it gives the passing driver two chances to attack, 2) with single detection, the overtaken driver does not immediately get a chance to pass back, 3) it can lead to multiple passes: imagine two cars ahead but only one within 1 second. The driver at back overtakes the first on the first zone, then with the speed advantage catches up with the next and is able to use DRS again to pass in the second zone.

  14. Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 14th March 2012, 21:59

    I think DRS would be more tolerated and the “cancelling the dirty air” argument accepted if it was used on short straights that wouldn’t produce overtaking except in the most clear-cut of car advantages (like lapping, for instance).

    But moves like this only reinforce the perception that DRS is about passing for passing’s sake.

  15. foleyger (@foleyger) said on 14th March 2012, 22:17

    DRS has ruined Formula 1. Tis the 1st time in a long time, that I am not looking forward to a season. What’s the point in having all these champions and quality drivers like Perez,Kobayashi and the Forrce India drivers when overtaking is not real a lot of the time. tis an embarassment to the sport

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