Romain Grosjean, Lotus, Montreal, 2012

Rate the race: 2012 Canadian Grand Prix

2012 Canadian Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

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  1. It took a while to get going, but when it did, what a race! 8/10

    1. Agreed

    2. Same here, 8/10 from me.

    3. Really happy for Lewis. Well overdue. Was really excited to see whether vettel & alonso would fall off the cliff. Remarkable that vettel could pit and pass alonso within so few laps! Really pleased also for grosean and Perez. Rosbergust be gutted at missing alonso by 0.4 seconds!

      Jacques Vilneauve said before qualifying that he feels that jenson is a more complete driver that Lewis. I like jenson buy completely disagree. Lewis not only proves he has speed, but also seems to be more adaptable. We have more often seen jenson being more unhappy if the setup isn’t to his liking, far more often than that with Lewis. 

      1. I couldn’t agree with you more regarding Jenson vs Lewis. I think most of us will readily admit that Lewis is hands down the quicker driver. At times (last season especially) Jenson was more consistent… my biggest criticism of him (and with Vettel to an extent) is that his performance window… ie: the range where he’s able to get get the most out of the package… is extremely narrow. If the setup isn’t spot on, there’s not a damn thing he can do with it. On the other hand Lewis has proven time & time again that he can wring the neck of an unruly car & force it to produce a decent result (him & Alonso both… especially Alonso)

        Jenson beat Lewis last year because Hamilton basically imploded midway through the season. He was consistent & picked up points when Lewis retired & got in trouble, & was more instrumental in deciding his own strategy, but he was never visibly quicker than Hamilton. Fast forward to this year, and Lewis has shown up with a boat load of consistency & tire management that has proven to be superior to Jenson so far. The communication between LH & his engineers has improved… I’m sure others have noticed this as well. He’s driving with his head, managing the gaps & tire wear (HUGE improvement here), as well as continually asking about what other drivers are doing. All these improvements as well as retaining the speed advantage definitely has Hamilton looking like the more complete driver this season for sure. It’ll be between him & Alonso in the end, IMO.

        1. Lewis has proven time & time again that he can wring the neck of an unruly car & force it to produce a decent result (him & Alonso both… especially Alonso)

          Totally agree. Alonso has been the epitome of that this season, which is why he’s so high in the championship standings, despite the difficulties with the car early on in the season. Wouldn’t have believed anyone that he’d be where be is now of someone had have said in following Oz

        2. the range where he’s able to get get the most out of the package… is extremely narrow

          Agree. We’ve seen Jenson struggle with the car way too often in his career. Heck, even in his championship winning season he was terrible in the 2nd half of the season.

          I was shocked to see Jenson perform the way he did in 2011.. maybe it was because he adapted to the tyres quicker while the other drivers were still getting to grips with it. Either ways, it looks like his hot streak has come to an end, and I expect him to get hammered by Lewis this season and every other season he stays at Mclaren.

          1. Jenson won his WDC with a double diffuser. His best season since was the year of EBD. It seems that if he can stick the back end to the ground he’s happy. If not…

      1. I’m jumping in the 8 bandwagon also.

      2. Jayfreese (@)
        11th June 2012, 11:46

        8 out of 10, maybe once again DRS is long to come in Lap 2 and the zone of activation is too long aswell, every overtake was mid-straight ones, a shame. Amazing job from Lewis, Romain and Checo!
        Congrats to Ferrari for their strategy crew, who do not react when they lose 4 seconds a lap! Kobayashi was close to make a pass on Alonso’s car.

        1. Jayfreese (@)
          11th June 2012, 19:47

          Rosberg not Kobayashi

    4. xeroxpt (@)
      10th June 2012, 22:09

      Yes, I liked it all! those less entertaining laps were a build up for the last 20 but anyways all battles were ruined by DRS ruined it, let’s hope for a ban or new no restriciton rule.

    5. yes but 5 interesting laps after 65 processional laps are not enough to be more than average for F1.

  2. 10. Great race except Alonso’s disappointing slipping away.

    1. 10. So the whole race was amazing?

      People appear to be voting based on the end just like last year. Realistically only 15 laps of a 70 lap race were good.


      1. Peedy Slimmz
        10th June 2012, 21:00

        Come on! First 20 laps where great and the last 20 epic. 9/10

        1. Still leaves 30 laps, based on your reasoning that makes it 6/10…

          1. I loved every lap.

            Does because there isn’t a pass happening RIGHT NOW, doesn’t mean it isn’t fascinating.

      2. I thought the same. 8 based on me becoming a bit disinterested in the middle. I felt like I was just waiting until the last pit stops to see how the race developed. Luckily, it developed brilliantly. However, if wasn’t desperate to see Hamilton win I might have appreciated a non-DRS pass on Vettel.

        1. I felt the same, middle 40 laps were quite boring, almost all passes were done via DRS. That is NOT what I call great or even epic. Also the result is very disappointing to me but I tried not to consider that. So much for “we understand the tires” by the way.

          1. What I did get a kick from was after the first stop seeing Vettel, Alonso and Hamilton running nose-to-tail. Almost certainly the 3 best in the sport, and in 3 different cars, all competitive (and more equal than the last few years), all fighting it out on track for the top 3 places. Spectacular image!

          2. Although I’d argue that generally most do understand the tyres. It’s just that Ferrari and Red Bull were stupid with their strategy. They were behind Hamilton, but tried to keep to his pace, despite surely knowing that his pace relied on an extra pit stop. And then when they started losing out they still didn’t pit, despite it being clear it was only getting worse. So Vettel did pit, too late, having lost too much time, and Alonso still didn’t despite his drop-off only getting worse. Ferrari and Red Bull played themselves into a corner the second Hamilton had his first great lap following his final stop, and then they just exacerbated it.

          3. Even though me personally, I would have preferred taiking a second place by pitting after they saw Hamiltons pace, I do ‘admire’ that they decided they want to try and go for the win instead of a safe podium. Once they saw Massas tyres were done after about 45 laps they should have considered pitting once again but they tried to hold onto the win. And lost (but who can blame them for thinking Alonso might have done better at preserving the tyres). Sad about the podium and WDC lead being thrown away but thats life I guess.

            About the race, I feel DRS took a lot away from it. In contrast to german commentators and many people here I did absolutely not get excited by the passes on the long straight today, most of them being finished way before the braking point. But it was intended to allow faster cars to get past slower ones and that worked so I don’t want to whine about it.

          4. @bananarama the DRS detection zone was in the wrong place being set after the hairpin. You could see it with Schumacher and (I think) Kobayashi where if you made a good non-DRS pass into the hairpin, the other driver can then get you with the DRS down the straight. It should have been before the hairpin.

      3. Who defined a 10 as the whole race being amazing?

        If you feel that the wholesome product resulted in a great show, why not a 10? We saw varying strategies, people trying to make one stoppers and some passing.

        Lewis’ pass on Fernando with both on fresh tires was fun! For me at least….

        1. I did a 9, really was a great race. Lots of different strategies and a few surprise outcomes :D

        2. artificial racer
          11th June 2012, 18:34

          A 10 race should be among the best ever races, not merely a race you enjoyed watching.

        3. If you dont need the whole race to be amazing for 10, what do you give a race that IS exciting every lap? there is no 11.

      4. Agree 100%

        First few laps ok, last 15 pretty exciting, but honestly – it was a pretty boring race. This was even echoed by Brundle and Croft during the commentary.

        China has been by far and away the best race this season!

        1. Maybe some don’t measure their opinion based on sky’s commentary.

    2. agree. This was a 10/10 race.

    3. Alonso will keep any driver on their toes.

    4. Certainly, after the race Alonso defended the strategy, blaming the tire degradation, but what were they expecting from such old tires?

      I happened to co-host the commentary studio for the local national TV (lovely experience), so I’ve had all the resources needed to see that the tactic was wrong.

      Nevertheless, I voted 7. The race built up properly and the podium was certainly unexpected.

      1. Grosjean used the exact same strategy and he came 2nd.

        1. I doubt he was running at the same pace as Alonso was in the second stint to keep in touch with Hamilton though.

  3. 8 from me. drs took the edge off it, twice for the lead. otherwise, good race :)

    1. I agree. I’m giving it 9. It could have been a 10 if not for DRS denying us much real overtaking.

    2. It strikes me that the next technical move should be to halve DRS’s effectiveness. We’ve gone from overtaking being too difficult to too easy. So surely we should just modulate the rule?

      1. artificial racer
        11th June 2012, 18:39

        DRS was the worst part of the race… not only making passing on the straight too easy, but penalizing passing somewhere else (e.g. Schumacher vs. Kobayashi).

        I enjoyed the race but the battling was mostly strategic in nature. I probably shouldn’t be too negative though.

    3. Nick.UK (@)
      10th June 2012, 21:07

      To be fair I think the tyres were what made Lewis’s return to the front particularly easy. Alonso and Vettel just had no traction out of the hairpin. Hamilton was more-o-less alongside Alonso before the DRS flap opened anyway. The overtake by Roman Grojean on Alonso showed this as well.

      I gave it 10. For a dry race to kick up such a tense atmosphere was brilliant. And the added factor of Roman and Sergio making a comeback out of nowhere towards the end was the icing on the cake.

      I hope Valencia can kick up something at least half as good as that!… but not holding out…

    4. I don’t think DRS made a huge difference when it comes to results, but the passes look cheaper with this system. I think that without DRS we would see exactly the same outcome, with one exception: Schumacher would probably finish the race.

      Other that it was a real thriller: 9/10.

      1. I agree completely with this comment. The DRS didn’t make much difference. Alonso’s tyres were so worn out that he had no traction. Hamilton, Grosjean and maybe even Perez would have passed him anyway. Maybe he would be able to fend off Vettel, but I doubt it.

        Good race though, 8/10. Glad for Hamilton. 7th winner out of 7 races, how amazing is that? Maybe next race we get a Lotus or maybe even Schumacher getting a win, but I think the next race is going to be someone who already won one this year. But it’s getting ridiculously umpredictable.

        1. There were a couple of occasions when I thought a driver was going to pass someone going into the final hairpin, but inevitably they decided to do it the easy way by waiting for DRS on the subsequent straight. That’s why I don’t like it. Instead of overtaking happening all over the place and being a skill, drivers know they can wait to use DRS and pass without much effort. Hamilton would have got past Alonso and Vettel anyway, but that’s exactly the point: without DRS he would have had to work a little bit harder, and pull off his manoeuvres somewhere unexpected, which would have made it all the more exciting to watch.

    5. Come on, Hamilton’s first pass on Alonso was much more than just DRS. Superb maneouvring and real bravery were needed to make that. It was exceptional, I thought. Also he would almost certainly have got past both without DRS in the final stint because of the tyre differences.

      1. As another said above, DRS didn’t really change the development of the race but made it look cheaper.

    6. I disagree. My opinion is that first of all, assuming two cars are similarly quick, either can counter DRS by staying within one second the next go around. Second of all, Alonso and Vettel’s tires went off, which is why Lewis’s passes looked so dramatic.

    7. 7 for me. dont understand how it could be higher than 8 anyway. DRS ruined two potentially crucial overtakes by hamilton.

      people shouldn’t vote 10s just because a 7th driver finally won.

    8. i’m making a steward’s decision and correcting my vote from 8 to 7. good race, but not spectacular. you guys are way too extreme with your scores, usually too generous imho :P

  4. 9 for me..
    Good first couple laps – very clean..
    Bit slow then for a bit, but picked up massivelly arould the first pit stop window.
    Not a great deal excitement then for a few laps.. But the last 30 ish laps were amazing..

  5. 9. The start was uneventful, not a great deal of first corner passes. Fanatastic after that seeing two stops competing with one stops, and the perfect length of DRS in my opinion.

  6. DRS Sucks!!!!!!!

    I want to see drivers racing, drivers defending & really fighting. Watching drivers push a button & cruise past with the car been past able to do nothing isn’t racing, isn’t entertaining & just made me turn the TV off with 2 laps still to go.

    1. I don’t feel DRS made much effect to be honest..
      The passes that were made by it would of been made anyway in my opinion, due to tyre’s etc.. There wasn’t a massive amount of DRS overtaking either i didn’t think.. (ie compared to some races last year, and was easier to defend that this time last year too)

      1. If they would have happened anyway then why have DRS?

        What was so exciting about watching boring DRS passes?
        It sucks, I hate it & im starting to lose intrestin F1 because of it!

        I want to watch good racing & that wasn’t good racing it was dead boring, unexciting & totally ruined the race.

        1. I cannot agree more, it was just horrible.

        2. “If they would have happened anyway then why have DRS?”

          So it can create oppertunities where there sometimes wouldnt be… Yes it wasnt needed for a few of the overtakes this afternoon, but for some it helped/created an oppertunity (and very often the oppertunity didn’t translate into a certain overtake)

          “…it was dead boring, unexciting & totally ruined the race.”

          I fail to see how it was boring, or ruined the race.. The overtakes that were made by DRS were generally made by cars that were significantly faster, and would of passed anyway.. Between very even cars, it often wasn’t that effective..

          1. I fail to see how it was boring

            whats so exciting about drs passes?
            there is nothing exciting about watching any of them.

            watching a driver sail easily past another thanks to drs is dead boring to watch for a fan of RACING!

            Im sick of watching boring, easy & uncontested drs drive by passing, not exciting to watch at all!

          2. whats so exciting about drs passes?

            It’s not easy at all however, When Hamilton passed Alonso near the end Alonso’s tyres were shot, so of course it was easy, Alonso had no grip left.

    2. Precisely, and cause Hamilton was the one who activated the DRS, no much dismay was given. All cheers for a good pass by the British.

      1. DRS made no difference in the final laps. Alonso lost his positions because his tyres were dying and opponents were couple of seconds per lap faster.

        1. Spot on, DRS made no difference at all here. Can’t remember who but someone caught Alonso at a rate of 3 secs a lap.

          1. Sergio Perez caught Alonso at 3 secs a lap. Vettel caught Alonso at nearly 5 secs a lap.

    3. What is wrong for an overtaken driver to get back and retake a the next lap at DRS zone?? Unless he is slow or on a different strategy! DRS adds a bit of UMPH for the races.

      Races used to be very monotonous & boring with little overtaking. Atleast now the drivers can have a wee assist to pass slow cars.

      1. Exactly.. If the cars are that even and the drivers are both on it and fighting, then surely they’d just DRS the driver they just got overtaken by the next lap.. Very rarely do you see that, if you do get a DRS overtake it is generally because the guy overtaking has the pace that the other driver hasn’t.

        1. Totally agree. Without DRS, the only other way to get the current F1 cars overtake by slipstreaming is to change the circiuits itself to have longer straights and wider tracks unfortunately or some real change in the rules to change the way the cars driving in the front disturb the air.

        2. What I tried to say up there. Well said.

        3. So, DRS is doing what it was designed to do? Wow :S

    4. sid_prasher (@)
      10th June 2012, 21:06

      I dont think DRS made all that of a difference….when your tires are already 2 sec off the pace…

      1. All these people that keep on having a cry about DRS need to smarten up. All the teams are in the same boat! You think Webber enjoyed any help from DRS today? His race was ruined when he got stuck behind Perez and Raikkonen. Red Bull not smart enough to focus on the race instead of one lap pace is what cost Webber some good points today.

  7. 9 from me. Drama at the end, shame it wasn’t battle for the first place.

  8. Excellent race. Well done GRO and PER. Very enjoyable race indeed. DRS worked perfectly, I think. Pirelli Tyres were good as well. 8/10

  9. Only 5 from me.

    Race was OK but DRS took a lot of the fun out of it. Had there been more real overtakes I’d have given it a higher mark but there was far too many easy DRS passes going on.

    1. See above. You could count on the fingers of one hand the number of drivers who would have passed Alonso as Hamilton did. He knew full well he had just the lap to catch Alonso while his tyres were warming. Alonso stalled him well going onto the straight and left a tiny window of opportunity even with the DRS available. As he drew near, Alonso blocked Hamilton on the right and it took superb reactions to switch to make the pass on the left in time.

      It wasn’t just DRS.

      1. It wasn’t just DRS.

        But it was.

        Lewis was 3-4 car lengths back when he opened DRS & DRS drove him clean past alonso before they got anywhere near the braking zone.

        1. Lewis has so much more grip he would have driven clean passed anyway!

        2. Nonsense, Hamilton was already on his way past before the DRS activation line as a result of his superb driving as accurately described by David BR2.

          1. Hamilton was already on his way past before the DRS activation line

            lewis was alongside alonsos rear wheels when they got to the drs activation line but the speed difference wasnt massive & without DRS we would have seen a good side by side fight down the straght & lewis would have had to finish the job in the braking zone.

            thats the issue with drs, it takes away good racing & instead just drives people clean past.

            alonso tyres may have been finished, however al least without drs he would have had a chance to at least try & defend. drs just made him a sitting duck & to me that isnt racing & isnt exciting.

            i want good racing, i want to see some good battling with some good, exciting overtaking & drs does not do this.

          2. clive’s comment is spot on. even with badly worn tyres, alonso could have still kept side by side with lewis in a straight line.

          3. spankythewondermonkey (@spankythewondermonkey)
            11th June 2012, 12:18

            @sato113….can’t agree with that. alonso’s tyres were shot, which means he a) couldn’t carry the same speed as hamilton through the hairpin and b) couldn’t get on the power as soon or as aggressively as hamilton out of the hairpin. he was dead in the water without going anywhere near newton’s laws of motion. drs made no difference on the result of that overtake.

          4. @spankythewondermonkey yes under acceleration ALO was very poor coz of his tyres, but alonso could maintain a constant speed similar to hamilton’s when HAM pulled up alongside him on the straight. only with DRS then activated, could HAM blast past. watch a replay and you’ll see.

          5. spankythewondermonkey (@spankythewondermonkey)
            11th June 2012, 12:58

            yes, but to get to vmax, you need to accelerate. if you can’t get the power down, the acceleration is slower, then the distance (& time) to vmax is longer. v²=u²+2as
            i may be wrong, but i thought hamilton’s speed compared to alonso meant the overtake was well under way before the DRS activation point.

          6. @spankythewondermonkey yes you are right hamilton was in a good position to overtake anyway without DRS, that would have been a more thrilling spectacle though. DRS made it too easy. HAM’s acceleration was far superior, so he caught up. but worn tyres or not, there speed would have been very similar from the point they were side by side. (HAM wouldnt have had much of a slipstream because he was side by side so early down the straight.) ALO could have tucked back under Hamilton and used slipstream to retake the position. but DRS negates that too.

          7. @jerseff1 i dont think he was well past before the drs line. see this video from 0.29 secs in.

            and @spankythewondermonkey the video haleps explain my arguement.

          8. sorry that should be @jerseyf1

          9. The point is good drivers will maximize what they have available to them. DRS in my view just meant Lewis could get past without risk of an incident. But the car handling required to make that manoeuvre was still exceptional and brave, as I saw it and numerous journalists I’ve read saw it. I really don’t understand the blasé attitude from people on this site at times.

            As for DRS, ironically I’ve always been against, precisely because it seems to me a way of ensuring that the talent of the best drivers is blunted ‘for the show.’ Remember before DRS? The only ones doing much overtaking were Hamilton and a handful of others. It’s weird how this has suddenly become an issue in this race, particularly from a lot of people who’ve been backing the use of DRS the whole time! Presumably just because Alonso and Vettel were passed.

          10. I’m certainly no fan of DRS and I wouldn’t support it staying in F1, but my point is that I disagree with the comments that say DRS made the race dull (and in particular that it significantly changed the final overtake for the lead which was in fact all about tyres).

            Not only would Hamilton have made the pass with or without DRS it would have been like taking candy from a baby either way too. Regardless of the fact that Alonso’s ultimate top speed may have been as high or higher (but achieved later) – his lack of rubber meant that Hamilton could have out-braked him by a country mile. If he’d remained stuck on the inside line he would have had to brake even earlier as we saw just how wide he had to take the hairpin to make it round at any speed at all. That would have been no more a show of great driver skill than the overtake we saw. DRS clearly changed the nature of the pass but as David BR2 says he simply maximised the tools available to keep the pass simple and safe. Alonso is no doubt a great driver and did put up a bit of a fight, but no amount of driver skill was going to keep that McLaren behind him.

  10. 9 for me there was no saftycar and the over taking was fantastic .

  11. 7, and only that hight because of the winners.

  12. Tom (@newdecade)
    10th June 2012, 20:47

    That was the most exciting artificial race ever. 8

  13. Great race. Again proves the point that we should be racing at the classic tracks that we know provide great races, and not go to tracks with big investors. Bring back imola!

  14. Pretty enjoyable. Not too silly with tyres going off and DRS passes by the dozen. A well-judged DRS zone I think.

    Tyres/Strategies worked very well though!

  15. DRS was too much. Nothing happened till lap 50.

    But boy, the last 20 laps after HAM’s 2nd pitstop were brilliant! A 9 from me.

  16. 7/10. There were quite a few boring spells during the race. When the real racing got going, it wasn’t that exciting to watch as most of the passes were motorway passes, either because of DRS or because the defending driver was defenseless because of their tyres.

    1. totally agree.

    2. yeah 7 or 6 seems legit.

  17. 8, too much DRSing. Hamilton’s win is not enough to automatically call it a great race.

    1. @cyclops_pl I think it is when he had to fight back from two pretty shody pit-stops and a blunder from the McLaren strategy folk regarding how many times RBR and Ferrari were going to stop. They pitted Hamilton assuming that he would adopt 1st when Alonso and Vettel pitted but instead he caught them and passed them.

      1. Don’t get me wrong here, Hamilton earned this victory in every bit and this is definitely a plus for the spectacle, since this win was so close and yet so far in couple of previous races, but except for the action around him the race was pretty mediocre for what Montreal got us used to.

  18. Only 4 from me purely because the DRS passing was far, far too easy.
    DRS hurt the racing today far more than it helped it, did nothing but produce dull & ridiculously easy artifial passing.

  19. All virtual. Slowly fading into position, with easy as pie passing. Reckless choice by Alonso and Vettel doesn’t mean great racing.


  20. 9. The first half was a bit tame and DRS was probably a little too effective, but I agree the passes would probably have happened anyway, so I won’t take any points off. Good to see Grosjean and Perez up there, proving that a one-stop could work.

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