Montezemolo says F1 races should be shorter

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Luca di Montezemolo, Ferrari, Monza, 2012In the round-up: Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo wants shorter F1 races which start later in the day.

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Shorten F1 races – Di Montezemolo (BBC)

“How long is the race, an hour and a half? Maybe this is too long for young people. Maybe I’m wrong but we have to look at how we can improve the show.”

Montezemolo suggests shorter and later F1 races (Reuters)

“I don’t think it’s good to race in July and August at two o’clock in the afternoon, when the people are at the sea and on vacation. If you look at a sport like soccer, they play six o’clock, seven o’clock, eight o’clock.”

Vettel rules out Monza victory bid (Autosport)

“I think it will be a pretty difficult race. In terms of strategy I think everyone is looking at the same thing. Therefore it is difficult to do something, or try something different.”

Alonso: Fault cost me ‘easiest pole’ (Sky)

“It’s a shame because it was the easiest pole position for us. We did a [one minute] 24.1 in Q2 with an easy lap and looking at it they [McLaren] did 24.0 in Q3.”

Button’s manager to look after Di Resta (The Telegraph)

“[Richard] Goddard, who takes care of Button’s financial affairs and will perform a similar role for di Resta, added that the Scottish driver was ‘a serious talent and a star of the future’.”

Ferrari F2012 – revised front wing (F1)

“In Italy Ferrari are again using the new front wing introduced at Spa, different in all its components and not – as one might expect for Monza – simply a standard wing with the upper flaps removed to reduce the downforce level.”

Sir Jackie Stewart believes Lewis Hamilton should spurn Mercedes (The Guardian)

“I personally would have stayed with McLaren. They have the resources and the money. They have the commitment and also have huge experience. He would not be here today without McLaren, so there is a degree of loyalty that I think you should always have.”

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87 comments on Montezemolo says F1 races should be shorter

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  1. ScuderiaVincero (@scuderiavincero) said on 9th September 2012, 2:00

    Isn’t this the same proposal made by Flavio Briatore some years back? I don’t know, I don’t mind a shorter race duration, but I don’t like the idea of splitting them into two. It’s too foreign to me.

  2. Julian (@julian) said on 9th September 2012, 2:03

    “How long is the race, an hour and a half? Maybe this is too long for young people. Maybe I’m wrong…”

    I’m young-ish (21) and I think the hour and a half race is the perfect length. So yeah, I think Luca is wrong.

    • APSAPSAPSA said on 9th September 2012, 2:41

      Same.

      I’m 21 and infact it is the ‘we need to make it a show’ thing that is putting me off F1.
      I don’t like the DRS, 1.5 hours is a lovely length for a race (AFL [australia], tennis and cricket are the sports most popular here nad they go for well… afl is 30 mins x 4 (20 min quarter + 10 over) + 30 mins of breaks pretty much so 2.5 hours. Tennis is a lot longer and everyone watches the Open in January and Circket is either half a day and night or 5 days.

      What younger people want is something honest and enjoyable. If F1 tries to be something it isn’t and tries to appeal then it is going to come off really poorly.

      The biggest thing something can do to turn me off is trying to be ‘be more youthy’, and anyone from teenagers to 30odd can smell that from a distance.

      Don’t make F1 old and boring, however don’t like to appeal. That is just stupid.

      • Dom (@3dom) said on 9th September 2012, 10:38

        I think de Montezemolo’s comments show that he’s losing touch with what people want. As well as enjoying the wheel to wheel action, I enjoy watching the strategies play out and feel that the current race length is just right for this.

    • DVC (@dvc) said on 9th September 2012, 6:42

      For me his comment is the epitome of what is wrong with this “sport”. It’s all about entertainment and less and less about competition. The race distance was set to be a true test of machine and driver. Races have gotten shorter in time as the cars have improved. If anything the race distance should be increased to make up for that performance gain.

      • xeroxpt (@) said on 9th September 2012, 7:41

        It’s reality vs life, in real life Di Montezemolo kind of makes sense, but Ferrari is all about racing at least it was, maybe it’s reverse psychology no one seems to really care about what Luca wants, it puzzles me to hear an Ferrari president sounding like that.

        Races too short? Ferrari won several 24 hour races in the past.

        • I dont think he wants shorter races.

          He never said “I want shorter races”. He said “maybe they are too long”, in what should have been interpreted as him suggesting he does not know and is willing to keep an open mind about it.

    • Jeanrien (@jeanrien) said on 9th September 2012, 8:06

      They have already adapt some sports to give more show and most of the time it’s less entertaining because you lose of the initial spirit and that’s what could happen to F1. Instead they could find new ways to make it easier to follow and understand, just to come with an example : putting the names in different colors according to the tyre used for FP and quali.
      To compare to another sport, it’s nice to see what they did for “America’s Cup” (Sailing boat race), I love the sport but that’s pretty slow and very hard to understand for someone not in the sport. And they made lots of visual help to a beter render on screen and the result is just amazing (they also chose to race closer to shore to be more visible and attract people and that’s working for the oldest trophy in sport)

      So why not for F1, instead of modifying the whole sport and lose long time fans to some new one …

    • davidnotcoulthard said on 9th September 2012, 11:45

      Well, I’m 13 and I don’t think that 1 hour +30 is enough!

    • Mallesh Magdum (@malleshmagdum) said on 9th September 2012, 12:45

      @julian I am 21 too. Decreasing the race length will just make it too short

  3. HoHum (@hohum) said on 9th September 2012, 2:05

    Montezemelo is right, who needs 90 minute races when you could be swimming in the turquoise water around Sardinia ? Better still do we really need actual races, video simulation is so realistic nowadays and computers could assign performance characteristics and race strategies with randomly generated accidents and technical faults that could guarantee multiple contenders for the championship right up to the last lap of the season. Not only could we save billions of dollars we could save the planet!

    • nackavich (@nackavich) said on 9th September 2012, 2:34

      @hohum Brilliant idea! And the way hologram technology is improving you could do realistic driver appearances and press conferences too. Or even holographic mechanics so out of control cars would drive right through then in pit lane incidents saving life and limb!

      Seriously though, a soccer or a rugby match is 80 mins without over time, and the Olympics go for 2 weeks.. If there’s usually a fortnight between races, then a shorter race would be an anticlimax. Bad idea.

    • xeroxpt (@) said on 9th September 2012, 7:45

      I think younger people don’t want to waste time with that, they have little time to live.

  4. sorin (@) said on 9th September 2012, 2:20

    Montezemelo, more is better!! Do you, comprehend.. understand this message? :)) Why? Because, for example, Alonso needs more time tomorrow to finnish in front.

  5. thatscienceguy said on 9th September 2012, 2:26

    F1 race – 90minutes
    Football – 90 minutes
    Australian Rules Football – 2.5 hours
    Baseball – 3 hours
    American Football – 3 hours
    Cricket – 3 hours, 7 hours or 5 days
    NASCAR – the entirety of human history.

    Seems to me F1 races are probably about the right length, they are already one of the shorter popular sports in the world. Few movies are shorter than 90 minutes as well.

  6. Cornflakes (@cornflakes) said on 9th September 2012, 2:34

    I disagree with the race length, I think it’s fine and actually often think ‘if only it was another 2 or 3 laps and we’d get a real fight for the win!’. But I must agree with the timing; I’m often busy or out in the afternoon and would like nothing better but to sit down and enjoy the F1 in the evening. I can understand that’s impossible for the far east races, but I remember from an article earlier in the week that Canada drew easily the highest peak audience last year (mostly due to the incredibly exciting prospect of seeing last place Button get the win) but also because it was on at a later time. I often record the afternoon race and watch it back in the evening, which of course means I run the risk of hearing the result and also missing out on live timing and the live blog on here.

    • BluNt (@blunt) said on 9th September 2012, 11:22

      @cornflakes i for one love the idea of the later races too. it wont happen though. formula 1 is always playing second fiddle to more popular sports then football. that and the fact that while places like singapore can make a night race work, places like silverstone and spa would be choas if the race ends to late. its usually coatic already leaving the venue after the race at those venues

  7. Kimi4WDC said on 9th September 2012, 2:49

    Attention seekers have too much power lately. For fresh view check out Kimi’s interview on formula1.com:

    Q: But the consequence is that now everybody is talking about closed cockpits? Do you have an opinion on that?
    KR: I think this sport is dangerous and if you are not happy to take the risk then you should do something else. I am sure there are plenty of drivers who are willing to take the risk driving a Formula One car as it is now.

    source: http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2012/9/13774.html

    • Andre (@) said on 9th September 2012, 3:30

      i love Kimi. F1 is and has always been the best because we love how they flirt with dangerous speeds and passes. Good answer kimi

    • Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 9th September 2012, 3:42

      I totally agree, Horses for courses they call it! If they close the cockpits, I might have to do something terrible like watch Nascar for entertainment. Change the wheels, the colours, the shape but don’t change the concept.

      • BluNt (@blunt) said on 9th September 2012, 11:25

        im imagining what F1 cars would like like with closed wheels, and its not pretty. isnt this open wheel racing after all?

      • Magnificent Geoffrey (@magnificent-geoffrey) said on 9th September 2012, 11:37

        @FunkyF1 But why? What actually changes about the sport if canopies come in, other than the fact that cockpits are covered? It’s just a cosmetic change. You still have the same teams, drivers, circuits, rules, nuances. It’s still F1 – but safer. I don’t quite understand why having cockpit canopies changes anything substantial about the sport.

        • davidnotcoulthard said on 9th September 2012, 11:56

          Well, one of the great things about open-wheel racing is that we can see drivers celebrating, unobstructed. We can also see the steering wheel turn, plus all those things-without the roof making them difficult to see (I just hate the cockpit view of touring car races). I also like the fact that the lack of canopies make the racing cars look a lot less like a box, and that I can see the helmets clearly. The thing is, an F1 car without a canopy looks a lot better, and the audience get more sense of freedom.

          Besides, why are Convertibles so attractive even though then cabins of Convertibles flood in the rain? Not to mention the safety concerns surrounding Convertibles.

  8. LUCA (@luca) said on 9th September 2012, 2:52

    Race length is perfect for me, i don’t like short races because i think they don’t give enough time to catch up whit another driver up front, 2 short races is perfect for gp2 because almost all of the cars are the same, and in f1 they aren’t, but i would really like more later EUROPEAN races, here in mi town in Mexico races are Sunday at 6:00 am, its almost impossible to wake up or watch the race live after a hangover. sorry for bad English..

  9. JimmyTheIllustratedBlindSolidSilverBeachStackapopolis III said on 9th September 2012, 2:56

    Has someone hit the repeat button on monte? he made these exact suggestions last year as well.

    p.s go michael win 92!

  10. ivz (@ivz) said on 9th September 2012, 3:00

    All these dinosaurs think they know what is best for F1!? How about keep your opinion to yourself, and actually ask fans what they think!? Its not like F1 is what it is because of TV now is it………geez, lol. But in all seriousness, a shorter race may attract the more casual viewer, but what is the point? The casual viewer still takes no interest in spending any money towards F1, I mean I don’t know a single friend who only watches a few minutes of F1 who has ever been to a race or purchased any F1 merchandise.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 9th September 2012, 3:51

      @ivz – For Luca, the Italian Grand Prix is a lot like the President’s “State of the Nation” address. It’s very important for him to be seen at Ferrari’s home race, and it is very important for Ferrari to appear as being at the cutting edge of the sport, influencing its future – even if they have no real power to do so. Any changes they want need the unanimous agreement of the teams, which means it is unlikely to get discussed among them, much less approved.

  11. ogogogg said on 9th September 2012, 3:43

    Monti, please shut up, please

    the ferrari slip alonso to pole left me in tears, monti keep it up please.

    lets see if they dont use massa as a guided missile……..hmm we shall see.( nusience at least)

    • W-K (@w-k) said on 9th September 2012, 4:47

      All communities have to have a village idiot, who would replace Monti at Monza.
      And at least he didn’t make the call for three car teams this year, or was that bit missed out in the reports.

      Wouldn’t two shorter races be more expensive?

    • DVC (@dvc) said on 9th September 2012, 9:17

      This is Massa’s chance to keep his drive. Win at Monza with Alonso nowhere to be seen and the Tifosi support will keep him at Ferrari for the rest of the year at least.
      If I was Massa I’d be putting my head down and going for it, and if I got an order otherwise I’d ignore it. Winning is the only thing that will restore his confidence now.

  12. ogogogg said on 9th September 2012, 4:00

    Monti an hamilton an alonso remind me WWF, sad but par of the course, I for one is getting sick of it since watching since 88

  13. F1Yankee (@f1yankee) said on 9th September 2012, 4:54

    i believe the idea of shorter races was shot dead in 1 of the ING fan surveys, and rightfully so. shorter races would destroy the value for me, particularly with the frequent and protracted breaks in action.

    i would be very receptive to more states-friendly timing of races. at least move forward or back a couple hours to avoid 4 AM for half of the us fans.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 9th September 2012, 7:43

      Sure, just force half of all the other fans to watch it at 4am.

      • DVC (@dvc) said on 9th September 2012, 9:24

        The world is a globe, you can’t please everyone with times, but not always making it about Europe would maybe help the rest of the world feel more like it is a sport for them too.
        Perhaps a World Championship should have an even spread of races that are convenient to watch. It’s not like there aren’t enough of them.
        PM, we’re both Australians, I would prefer 4 a.m. to 10 p.m. because I could get to be a bit earlier, get up early, watch the race then go to work, instead of staying up late to watch it, and getting hardly any sleep for work on Monday.

  14. Guelph (@guelph) said on 9th September 2012, 5:04

    I would rather see races long enough where reliability becomes a question again. The cars are so reliable now that if they are more than a few seconds apart there’s no drama of whether or not the leader will complete the race.

    Add another 100 km to the races and another hour to the potential race time.

  15. dmcobern (@dmcobern) said on 9th September 2012, 5:40

    The length is fine, with the price of tickets these days I can’t see people spending that type of money to see an event that might not even span 60mins.

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