Romain Grosjean, Lotus, Suzuka, 2012

Webber fumes at “first-lap nutcase” Grosjean

2012 Japanese Grand PrixPosted on Author Keith Collantine

Romain Grosjean, Lotus, Suzuka, 2012An unhappy Mark Webber hit out at Romain Grosjean following their clash on the first lap of the Japanese Grand Prix.

“I haven’t obviously seen what happened at the start but the guys confirmed that it was first-lap nutcase again, Grosjean,” said Webber after the race.

“And, yeah, the rest of us are trying to fight for some decent results each weekend but he’s trying to get to the first corner as fast as he can at every race.”

Webber said the crash was “immensely frustrating” and referred to Grosjean’s ban for causing a crash at the start of the Belgian Grand Prix, saying: “maybe he needs another holiday”.

“He needs to have a look at himself, obviously, it was completely his fault,” Webber continued. “You know, how many mistakes can you make? How may times can you make the same error? First-lap incidents, it’s quite embarrassing at this level for him.”

Grosjean said he had been trying to avoid a collision in the first corner: “Well, yes, after the ban I’m very careful at the start. I kept my line and trying to avoid any contact with Perez which was on the left. I was focussing on that and didn’t see the delta speed with Mark.”

Grosjean added he was “just trying to avoid any contact, that was my main objective and yeah, it didn’t work. It was a stupid crash.”

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  1. Grosjean really is worrying.

    I slated him after his first season when he was absolutely dire, but gave him a pretty good mark at the halfway point this year. At that stage, he looked like what he was supposed to be: a fast rookie who makes rookie mistakes. But to come from Spa where he came close to killing a driver for absolutely no reason (he drove all the way across the track to crash into Hamilton when he had acres of space around him), to t-boning another driver because he wasn’t watching in front of him is just scary. First corners are a minefield on any track. It’s one thing to make mistakes. It’s another thing entirely not to have the capacity to know what’s going on around you.

  2. The Sky post race analysis of Hamilton v Raikkonnen, and the onboard of Raikkonen and how quickly he adjusted the wheel to avoid an incident with Hamilton that showed the difference in awareness between the two. Grosjean needs to look across the garage and take a leaf out of Kimi’s book.

    Before anyone says it, yes Kimi had 1st corner contact this weekend, but only because Alonso did pretty much the same as Grosjean did to Hamilton at Spa, and Kimi had nowhere to go…. Racing incident, which was unavoidable. Quite different to misjudging your braking and driving someone off the road.

  3. I disagree with Webber’s opinion that Grosjean needs ‘another holiday’. What he needs is more experience. Let’s not forget that he hasn’t completed his first full F1 season yet and that he has never had the luxury of the unlimited testing that the likes of Webber used to enjoy when they were F1 rookies. Grosjean should be penalised for repeated mistakes but race bans would only complicate the already difficult learning process further and thus are the wrong way to go. If he still keeps regularly crashing into other drivers in a year from now, then fine, throw him out. But, for now, give him more time to learn from those mistakes instead of more time to ‘reflect’ and ‘think’.

  4. The problem with Grosjean is that he’s had plenty of time to learn from his mistakes & yet still makes the same mistakes.

    Im not just talking about his time in F1 either, I remember watching him in the Euro F3 series back in 2006 & he was making very similar errors & getting the same critisism. from other drivers. He then moved into GP2 & was again making some of the same errors & had a couple 1st lap incidents in his run with Renault in F1 at the end of 2009.

  5. To be honest I don’t think much to the incident, he was trying to avoid the Sauber, that was pretty obvious to me. You can’t blame the guy for being over cautious and not moving slightly more to the left, considering his recent ban.

    Grosjean should probably be glad that Mark doesn’t head up up the GPDA anymore.

    1. He steered the wheel but forgot about the pedals? Surely drivers at this level can be expected to do both, no?

  6. Grosjean is basically saying he can only concentrate on one car at a time. Pathetic explanation for one of the best drivers in the world (apparently).

  7. Mark has every right to be so angry!!! A good result in Japan would have really moved him up the drivers table, and this time it looked like he was really comfortable and confident in the car!

    All that work down the drain – too bad we can’t have a mix of f1 and ice hockey style fights!!!!

  8. I think Mark’s quote was “I think he’s trying to get to the THIRD corner as fast as he can”.

    Brilliant! Haha

  9. Webber slowed down way too much for that corner.
    More than the cars in front, and all the cars behind bunched up more than usual, behind him.
    So the accident wasn’t all Grosjean’s fault.
    Webber is not the greatest driver, and seems to be overly defensive to any hint of criticism in interviews.
    Just my 2 cents.

  10. any insurance company will ping the driver behind for someone rear ending another driver on the road, and it makes sense, only the person behind can react to whats happening in front of him. Mark was reacting to what he thought could happen in front of him, decided he’d be cautious and behind him he has GRO thinking he can overtake someone at that point.

  11. I wonder if Lotus use their cars as weapon…..Kimi kick Alonso out and this first corner NERVOUS made another great driver into a spin and nearly kick him out. I am surprised why FIA didn’t take any action against Kimi. Why not a drive way through penalty for Kmi as well. As far as Grosjean is concerned, I suppose he should be demoted and sent back to GP2 where he actually belongs.

  12. That incident cost MW and RG quite a lot of points. You’d think that RG would flash on the fact that all of these first lap incidents are costing HIM a lot of points, and he’d be way higher up the point table if he actually finished these deals without any wing changes. Having said that, I thought MW slowed significantly more than the others through the 2nd corner. Ultimately, RG is at fault, but when I saw the race and further replays, it appeared to me that MW really backed up on corner entry. But, even if MW went through the corner slower than what RG and others were expecting, it doesn’t change the fact that the common denominator in these incidents is RG. You’d think he’d figure this out already, but somebody ought to tell him that races are never won at the first corner, but are frequently lost there.

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