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Rate the race: 2012 Korean Grand Prix

2012 Korean Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Start, Korea, 2012What did you think of the Korean Grand Prix? Share your verdict on today’s race.

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Rate the 2012 Korean Grand Prix out of ten

  • 1 (4%)
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  • 3 (9%)
  • 4 (16%)
  • 5 (25%)
  • 6 (21%)
  • 7 (13%)
  • 8 (6%)
  • 9 (2%)
  • 10 (1%)

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  1. Traverse Mark Senior (@)
    14th October 2012, 8:42

    I think Hamilton is hoping that the grass is greener at Mercedes :P

    1. @tmcs88 Yeah considering that at McLaren all he’s getting is astro-turf.

      1. Excellent!

    2. lol – Yeah he´s having a turf time at McLaren…

    3. Jayfreese (@)
      14th October 2012, 12:25

      Three different issues in three consecutive races for Hamilton, thank you McLaren! Hamilton made the good move.

    4. Maybe the McLaren team has been smoking too much grass lately;-)
      Only Mercedes call it Blue Efficiency: not green stuff.

    5. He is taking some with him.

  2. Well, that was a let down.

    1. Agreed!
      It´s quite ironic that such a brilliant driver can create such boring races.

      1. Rather like Schumacher when he was at his best.

      2. @testacorse Assuming you mean Vettel, I don’t think it’s just down to him, unless you only care about P1. The rest of the field largely did nothing exciting and they had cars in front of them!

        1. @jsmith944 yeah, it reminds me of Schumacher hey-day too. Biggest difference for me is that I wanted Schumacher to win back then :)
          And there is just no variation in the way it´s done. Vettel takes the lead and controls the race to the finish. Drives across the line, and the team radio with Hohner goes: well done Seb, well done (with a little grin in his voice), and Vettel goes woo-hoo. It´s deja at it´s worst for me, and for the third time in a row now.
          @andrewtanner I know what you mean, but I definately prefer a fight over first place, especially when so much is on the line for the followers of f1. Today we lost the 4 way battle for the driver championship, and instead it´s turned into a two horse race. Furthermore… the guy leading has won the last too championships and has the strongest car in the field.
          I was hoping for something else for a season finale to be honest!

    2. Accurate summary.

  3. 4/10
    At least 3,4 good moments in a dull race.

  4. 4/10, snoozefest. Toro Rosso were the only shine of bright light in this very dull race.

    1. I liked the move from Hulk to get past HAM and GRO too

      1. Agreed. With both. That was good. But other than that: *snore*.

        Although I did find the fight of Perez from the back to the points after the pitlane disaster very interesting, but I’m a Perez fan, so I don’t want to be biased in the overall rating of the race. So 4/10

  5. The most boring race this year. Hamilton vs Raikkonen battle was the only entertaining part.


    1. I liked the Hulk mixing it up with HAM & timido GRO

  6. Processional

    1. Good old F1 of the 90s and 2000s…

    2. Not surprised by the start either

  7. Sankalp Sharma
    14th October 2012, 8:47


    Brundle: “Fernando is slower than you”, about Massa!

    Loved the final corner scrap between Hamilton and Perez.

    1. Sviatoslav Andrushko (@)
      14th October 2012, 9:10

      Apparently, Fernando tried to save his tyres in order to attempt to assault Webber. At the end of the race Felipe lost some time to Alonso.

    2. The actual quote by Rob Smedley “Back off” is much better.

      1. Sankalp Sharma
        14th October 2012, 9:17

        I’m not sure how the “saving-the-tyres” was actually working for him. An assault earlier in the final stint would have been more pragmatic.

        1. he was 6.3 sec more than felipe in the end so yes it works…he was just saving tyres…

          1. But that’s because Massa had to back off for the last 15-20 laps…

          2. yh they were in different phases.

            but remember vettel was told ‘no need to worry about mark’

            so red bull were clearly playing team orders too(also lap one was let seb through then get beside him so no one else can). which tho frustrating is expected at this stage of the season

          3. @necrodethmortem
            back off 6.3 sec ?? No for sure, thats because Massa had no tyres in the end…in the back off time he was 1.5 -1.8 constantly to Alonso.
            But for sure Massa was very fast this race but no help at all to Alonso…it will be helpful if he will beat vettel in the remain races…just wait and see

          4. @fanser The point is that if Massa would’ve been allowed to pass Alonso, he would’ve gotten several seconds ahead of him with his pace, probably more than the 6 he lost at the end, ergo saving tyres was slower.

            I think Alonso had Canada still in the back of his mind or something, didn’t go that way this time around.

          5. Maybe you are right but in the situation that Ferrari is was too risky to let them fight…and i don’t think Massa would have passed Webber. But the performance of Massa was strong i hope he repeat that in the remain 4 races

  8. Not the best race of the year. No battle for the lead, not many non-DRS passes, Hamilton and Raikkonen practically out of the fight for the DWC and team orders at Ferrari.

    1. sums it up nicely, didn’t get it above a 4/10 for me.

      1. How could it be above that ? Aweful organisation and quite a strange venue, Toro Rosso understood the importance of straight line speed and that paid off …

  9. I thought it was ok, had some battles down the order. 5

  10. 5/10 , nothing to shout about, even though Red Bull tried to make it more nerve-wracking.

    1. yh that radio stuff was slightly insulting to our intelligence. more worrying was how some of the press people on twitter actually believed it.

      all you had to do was look at lap times and his tyres to see all was fine.

  11. How a track like this is on the calendar?

    1. Because its a good track which the drivers enjoy perhaps?

      1. It’s not. Most drivers dislike it.

        1. @pamphlet The crew dread the lack of hotels here too.

  12. First 1-2 of the season, really?

  13. 6 for me. Not terribly bad. In the race amongst teams McLaren are the poorest of all. I don’t get their philosophy if they have one.

  14. 5/10. Quite boring. Now it’s two horse race in the championship. “I’m faster than Fernando” – loved that.

    1. ‘120 points extra and I’m competing again!’ ;-)

    2. he was faster but 6.3 sec behind in the end ???? sound strange to you or not??? suppose(buy using mathematical implications) that he was fatser then Alonso mathematical implications says that in the end he would be less then 2 sec to fernando but not he was 6. Suppose now (by the same way using mathmatical implications) that fernando was saving tyres in the end he should be more then 5 sec to felipe and yes was 6.3 seconds.
      Which is the right mathematical implications to use…one is faster or the other saving tyres? i got my personal answer

  15. Any semblance of an interesting race was lost as soon as Vettel made the it through the first corner first. That was obvious before the race, obvious in about 30 races of the last 3 years and anyone who thought otherwise was kidding themselves.

    1. P1 isn’t the only place that is up for grabs in a race.

  16. I actually really enjoyed this race, Some good fights, Some close racing & a reasonable amount of overtaking.

    Wasn’t action packed but was far from been totally dull & was certainly not boring in my view.

    1. glad you could squeeze some fun out of viewing this race. I wish I cud say the same, but a 4 for me!

  17. 5. It would have rated a bit higher if Ferrari wouldn’t have held Massa down. Yes, team orders seem logical at the Scuderia now, but Massa was taking 1 sec./lap off Alonso with 15-some laps to go and he was the only one in the top ten who actually looked able to challenge the Red Bulls. I somehow feel we’ve been deprived of a good battle for 2nd at least. With Vettel’s tyre wear issues, who knows…

    Koba’s kamikaze move on Button and Rosberg, the easiness of overtaking in the DRS zone, the astroturf run-off falling apart and the Gangam style dude being fronted everywhere by the organisers didn’t help the rating either. And I’m now sure Korea is a(nother) track we could very well do without.

    1. Massa was taking 1 sec./lap off Alonso with 15-some laps to go

      alonso was cruising to save tyres, when he started pushing again to pressure webber in the final laps he began pulling away from massa easily.

      1. when he started pushing again to pressure Webber in the final laps he began pulling away from Massa easily

        At about 0.5 sec./lap and I reckon Massa’s tyres were done by that point. Massa’s overall pace was better than Alonso’s in the final stint. No question about that.

      2. Why on earth would Massa be pushing after Alonso once he was told to stay put. I think he was faster but couldn’t be bothered to keep pace at the end.

    2. Terrible to see Massa being held behind but it makes sense. To more points Alonso scores at this stage the better.

      1. so what about red bull? ‘no need to worry about webber’

        at least webber was still in for a shout for the title.

    3. I like the track, watching Webber through the midsection was a joy.

      1. @hohum

        The track itself is not necessarily awful but it’s among the worst tracks in the calendar, for sure. The mid sector along with turns 4,5,6 are relatively decent. Can’t say the same about the pit lane entrance / exit and sector 3. It’s simply a track without personality. Technical, flat, low downforce. A circuit that doesn’t really push to the limits / challenge neither the car or the driver.

        Still, regardless of that, I was refering more to aspects that don’t relate to the track’s design. The Korean organisers just seem to hit trouble every single year. 10 laps for the marshalls to bring a crane and remove Rosberg’s car, uninspired docking and run-off areas, astroturf shredding like an office carpet. That’s just unacceptable. Add dust and dirt all over the track, the fact that it’s set in the middle of nowhere, the poor infrastructure everyone complains about, large purposeless concrete constructions all over the place making an aesthetic bomb out of it, untrained / clueless marshalls and volunteers and general lack of enthusiasm from everyone, be it the public or those involved. It just looks bad.

        To me, along with Bahrain and India, Korea is one of those tracks that are on the calendar because they have to. Because of Bernie’s economical or political interests, not because they have that special something that gets the most out of the driver and the car, not because it looks great on screen, not because it has history or because it’s composed out of legendary sections and turns. Not even because it’s just a very good track, like Turkey was. It’s there just because it has to be there.

        That’s exactly why Korea was finished and omologated only a couple of weeks before the first GP held here, that’s why we had the flood of 2010 and that’s why the organisers are clueless year after year. They hold the GP here because they have to, not because they want to and because there’s enthusiasm regarding F1 or motorsport in general…

        I’m sorry but that’s just the feeling I get when I watch these GPs.

        1. Rome wasn’t built in a day, it takes time to build up a following but they still have to pay FOM tens of millions of $, on TV the locale looks fine. I would rather a decent track in the boonies to a cruddy track in the center of town.

  18. The turf at the exit of turn13? was rather ridiculous. They need to sort that out.
    As for the racing though, there were a few good battles, some great tension towards the end of the race and soe good tactical battles in the pits. I was dissapointed that Button was eliminated because I thought it would be interesting to see how that strategy played out but judging by Hamilton’s tyre wear I doubt he could do a one stop.
    I was happy with the result, but the race itself probably a 6.

    1. The turf at the exit of turn13? was rather ridiculous. They need to sort that out.

      Agreed. Completely unacceptable.

      1. I don’t think Charlie was intending for that to happen when he asked for a change to the astro turf!

  19. I thought it started very well (minus Button and Rosberg’s unfortunate exits), but it slowly started dying down until the end where it flat-lined (I was not on edge with all the Vettel radio messages, I knew he would win and it kinda got annoying although I guess there was nothing else going on). Overall, a 6/10, not great but not completely horrible. Great moves by Hamilton kept it alive.

  20. i gave it 7/10 as i thought it was a fairly good race which i quite enjoyed.

    the drs passes were too easy most the time but at least there wasnt a great deal of them, enjoyed some of the good racing we saw, especially through the turns 4/5/6 section where there was some really good racing.

    think the only thing which hurt the race was the tyres which ended up seeing everyone cruising for most the race to try & look after them. heard a couple radio calls where teams were telling drivers not to get too close to the car infront in order to not use the tyres too much, that certainly didnt help the racing.

    1. That certainly hasn’t helped the racing all year.

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