Hamilton vs Button: Four races left, five points in it

2012 F1 season

Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 2012The Korean Grand Prix was a disaster for McLaren. The team came away with a single point, their worst result since the beginning of the partnership between Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button in 2010.

Afterwards Hamilton admitted he is “too far away now” in the championship. With Button even further behind, the best the pair can hope for now is to lift McLaren back in front of Ferrari in the constructors’ championship.

There is also the matter of personal pride at stake. With Hamilton off to Mercedes at the end of the season, the final races will decide which of Britain’s world champions gets bragging rights over the other from their time together at McLaren.

Hamilton beat Button in the championship in 2010 but the tables were turned last year – the first time Hamilton had ever been beaten by a team mate in F1.

When Button joined McLaren at the end of 2009 he had just clinched the world championship with Brawn. Even so many expected him to have a difficult time at the team where Hamilton had previously come out on top against two-times world champion Fernando Alonso.

But the points show the pair have been very evenly-matched. McLaren have not failed to score in a single race since the Button-Hamilton partnership was formed at the 2010 Bahrain Grand Prix.

In their 54 races together Button and Hamilton have racked up 1,235 points between them. Hamilton is ahead by just five points – but will he still be when the partnership ends in four races’ time?

Lewis Hamilton vs Jenson Button: 2010-2012

Here’s how many points the pair have scored in the 54 races from the beginning of 2010 up to last weekend’s Korean Grand Prix:


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54
Lewis Hamilton 15 23 31 49 49 59 84 109 127 145 157 157 182 182 182 192 210 222 240 258 262 287 299 317 325 325 337 349 374 386 386 398 408 418 436 442 467 467 482 497 512 516 520 530 555 555 559 559 584 584 609 609 619 620
Jenson Button 6 31 35 60 70 70 88 106 121 133 143 147 147 165 177 189 189 199 214 222 240 252 260 275 290 315 323 323 323 348 363 381 399 424 436 454 469 484 509 509 527 527 529 529 529 533 534 552 560 585 585 603 615 615

Technical failures

Lewis Hamilton


2010 Hungarian Grand Prix – Gearbox (was 4th)
2011 Brazilian Grand Prix – Gearbox (was 6th)
2012 German Grand Prix – Damage (was 16th)
2012 Singapore Grand Prix – Gearbox (was 1st)


2010 Japanese Grand Prix – Gearbox (five places)
2012 Chinese Grand Prix – Gearbox (five places)

NB. Hamilton had wheel failure during the 2010 Spanish Grand Prix while running second with two laps to go, but was classified 14th

Jenson Button


2010 Monaco Grand Prix – Overheating (was 11th)
2011 British Grand Prix – Wheel (was 2nd)
2011 German Grand Prix – Hydraulics (was 8th)
2012 Italian Grand Prix – Fuel pump (was 2nd)


2012 Japanese Grand Prix – Gearbox (five places)

Over to you

Which McLaren driver has impressed you most since the beginning of 2010? And who do you think will come out on top?

Have your say in the comments.

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164 comments on Hamilton vs Button: Four races left, five points in it

  1. BasCB (@bascb) said on 18th October 2012, 14:54

    Button certainly has done a good move with leaving Brawn and going for McLaren. He did impress and build on the success from winning. But I think Hamilton did more damage to his own campaigns by panicking and losing his way than by not learning what made Button win over him last year.

  2. Ed Marques (@edmarques) said on 18th October 2012, 15:06

    Hamilton would be far ahead if wasn’t by his problems. In that, you can count mechanical failures, accidents, and other things. The points total don’t say a lot for me, at least on this case. Hamilton is undoubtedly a better driver, and i’m sure Mclaren will miss him. And I’m not saying but isn’t a great driver (obviously he is) just that he is not in the top 3 driver list.

    Keith in 2010 on the Spanish grand prix Hamilton had a tyre failure when he was in second, 2 to laps to the end. He lost 18 points on that one, and fot those who loves numbers, that would had give him the title.

  3. Toxic (@toxic) said on 18th October 2012, 15:39

    Considering the fact that Button came to the Hamilton’s team in 2010 it is quite a good score of his abilities.
    He had to learn so many things about the team and adjust his driving to Hamilton’s liking.
    For me he has been better of the two. Maybe Hamilton has the edge in quali but Sunday’s matter the most. Also when Button gets the setup right, he is quite remarkable in quali as well.

  4. a lot of blabla going on, it’s very simple, who would you hire if you had an F1 team? For me , Hamilton.

  5. 23kennyboy23 said on 18th October 2012, 15:58

    I feel the current set of rules has slightly favoured Button’s strengths over the last 3 years, and has closed things up a bit. Hamilton struggled with the tyres in early 2010 whilst it suited button, and drs has taken the skill out of overtaking and reduced the penalty for a bad qualifying.

    • I totally agree, if we had the 2008-spec rules hamilton would do the same to button that he did to kovalainen…its just a shame now that F1 is all about mamanging the car and not driving it fast!!

      • 23kennyboy23 said on 18th October 2012, 22:41

        I rate button much higher than Kovalainen so not entirely sure about that but the margin would be greater. Since mclaren have rarely had the pace to be on the front row these last 3 years Button’s lack of qualifying pace would have been a much bigger problem w/o DRS. Kobayashi has also suffered from the DRS as one of his main and unique strengths was overtaking, which is less important these days.

  6. Jake (@jleigh) said on 18th October 2012, 16:22

    From the comments I’ve read so far there seems to be a general consensus that Lewis is the quickest of the two, but is not a “complete” driver, not consistent etc.

    However, I think this is because a lot of people are a little too stuck on the second 3/4 s of the 2011 season. If you look at 2010 and 2012 I can only think of 1 driving error from Lewis which was his move on Massa in Monza. That’s pretty impressive consistency if you ask me, in fact it’s probably less than any other driver (I may have forgotten 1 or 2, but that probably means they weren’t particularly significant). Ok, he’s made the odd wrong call on strategy (china 2010) or set-up (spa 2012) but in terms of consistent drivers, I’d say in 2010 and 2012 he’s been even better than Alonso.

  7. Please somebody reminds me the number of victories they had in these McLaren years (I mean don’t include Jenson’s Brawn or that one-hit-wonder Button had with Honda)

    • William Brierty said on 18th October 2012, 18:31

      Hamilton – 9 wins, 7 poles, so far…
      Button – 7 wins, 1 pole, so far…
      Hamilton/Button era – 16 wins, 8 poles, so far…


      Vettel in same period – 20 wins, 29 poles

      • Jake (@jleigh) said on 18th October 2012, 21:26

        But … RB a significantly better car for at 75% of the time.

        • David-A (@david-a) said on 18th October 2012, 21:36

          But, Mclaren have usually been > Ferrari, yet Alonso has equal wins to Hamilton (and more than Button).

          Alonso and Vettel have the best results for their cars over the last 3 years IMO.

          • Jake (@jleigh) said on 18th October 2012, 22:50

            But, Ferrari and Red Bull are considerably more competent … We could go on and on, but my point is that merely looking at numbers in a specific way doesn’t tell the whole story.

  8. electrolite (@electrolite) said on 18th October 2012, 17:15

    I think neither driver has been anywhere consistent enough to be honest!

  9. sketchyterry (@sketchyterry) said on 18th October 2012, 17:37

    What about where Hamilton was given the 24 place penalty in this years Spanish GP?

  10. William Brierty said on 18th October 2012, 18:24

    This is perhaps one of the greatest pub debate topics ever, but unfortunately it is a short debate. I think we all foresaw Hamilton having the upper hand back in 2010, but happily, its been much closer than we initially imagined. However, saying that, I think it is also valid to say most of the time Button has beaten Hamilton, Hamilton has had some kind of hiccup that weekend, whether it be setup, technical issues, a mistake or that lack of focus that sometimes mists around Hamilton. In a fair qualifying, Hamilton’s ballistic one-lap pace has Button beaten by 2/10th normally, and although it is closer in the race, Hamilton can generally keep Button under control.

    • electrolite (@electrolite) said on 18th October 2012, 22:24

      I also think Button’s dips in form have been a lot more ‘clear cut’, and kept in the space of a few races, like earlier this year. Hamilton tends to be more win, retire, win, crash etc…Not that either is a good thing, to be honest!

  11. At the end of the day why are you all making excuses Lewis this Lewis that ,he could of this or won that .The plain fact is that so far he is only 5 points in front of Jenson. We could go the other way and say well Kamui took out Jenson , he had a hydraulics fault .Get over it people , the difference is 5 points

    • Just looking at pure numbers is a fools game, and people usually only do it to hide or promote other agenda’s.

      • gwenouille (@gwenouille) said on 18th October 2012, 20:29

        I’d say that after 54 races the luck factor doesn’t really make a difference.
        10 races ? OK
        But 3 years ? It cancels itself out of the equation. Really.

        At the very moment you start to put an “if things had turned out differently, then…” in the mix, you start to loose objectivity.

        We can’t conclude much from these stats, apart from:
        LH is much much better over 1 lap, no doubt about it.
        Over the course of 3 seasons however, he hasn’t been able to “thrash” JB as he was expected to.

        • Jake (@jleigh) said on 18th October 2012, 21:29

          Just saying luck equals itself out over 3 years without basing it on any facts is a very blinkered outlook. A simple look at the facts shows that Hamilton has had the lions share of the bad luck, especially this season.

          • It’s not just the amount of failures either, whats important is how much each failure cost the respective driver.

            Hamiltons wheel failing while in 2nd place with 2 laps to go in Spain is not the same as Jenson retiring from 8th at the start in Monaco

        • well said gwenouille

  12. The Limit said on 18th October 2012, 21:13

    I think overall Jenson Button has exceeded expectations since he went to McLaren two and a half years ago. It would be nice for Hamilton to go out ‘on a high’ but recent races pose a question. How will Button fare in 2013 when he is team leader at McLaren? How much will McLaren miss the performances of Lewis Hamilton as we saw recently in South Korea? That is what I find interesting.

  13. AdrianMorse (@adrianmorse) said on 19th October 2012, 1:48

    There seems to be some debate as to whether the bad luck has evened out over the past three years or not, so I thought I’d do a points-swing comparison between Hamilton and Button, of the incidents I remember. I include here also racing incidents where Hamilton and Button were not at fault.

    Barcelona: Hamilton lost 20 points to Button (minus 18 for HAM, plus 2 for BUT = 20)
    Monaco: Button retired with an overheating engine, but he wouldn’t have scored that day anyway (0)
    Hungary: Hamilton retired from fourth, Button finished 8 (14)
    Spa: Button gets taken out by Vettel while running 2nd, Hamilton already ahead (-18)
    Japan: Gearbox penalty for Hamilton (plus malfunction in the race); HAM qualified 3rd, so let’s say P3 for HAM, P5 for BUT (7)
    Overall in 2010, Hamilton lost 23 points to Button.

    Britain: Button’s wheel fell off after his final pit stop while behind HAM and MAS, but given his newer tyres, and Hamilton’s struggles with them, it’s reasonable to assume that Button would have caught both of them on newer tyres (-14)
    Germany: Button would have finished fourth without his hydraulics problems, possibly (-12)
    Brazil: Hamilton retired from 6th, though it is hard to tell how much his box problems affected him prior to that (8)
    Over 2011, Button lost 18 points to Hamilton

    China: Without his grid penalty, Hamilton would have stayed ahead of Button, so P2 and P3 reversed (if they would have caught Rosberg, Hamilton would have caught him first) (5)
    Bahrain: Button retired, Hamilton had two botched pit stops. Without problems, they would have finished 5 and 7, rather than 8 (0)
    Spain: Hamilton lost his pole position. Difficult to say what he could have done from pole, but a podium seems the least (15)
    Valencia: Hamilton was put out bu Maldonado, but where would he have finished? Let’s say 6 behind MAL, MSC, WEB (8 + 2 = 10)
    Germany: Hamilton’s puncture cost him a good points-scoring finish, let’s say P5 (10)
    Belgium: Hamilton taken out by Grosjean; he started 7th, so let’s say he finished there (6)
    Italy: Button retires from P2, (-18)
    Singapore: Hamilton retires from the lead (28)
    Japan: very difficult to say where both would have ended up without their problems, especially as Hamilton’s problems began on Saturday
    Korea: the same. Without any problems, Hamilton would probably have been ahead, though impossible to tell by how much.
    Over 2012: 56 points lost to Hamilton
    2010 – 2012: 61 points lost to Hamilton

    I hope I haven’t made any glaring oversights, I’m typing this in a hurry.

    • 23kennyboy23 said on 19th October 2012, 1:52

      Hamilton wouldn’t have even been fighting with MAL if mclaren hadn’t screwed his stop up (valencia 2012). I’d argue he was good for a win or podium before that

      • RayF1 said on 19th October 2012, 7:57

        You could start a whole website on the IF’s there’s been in F1 over the years. For example, IF a driver always started on pole, he’d be unlikely to be involved in overtaking accidents. Or another one, IF Hamilton had gone a bit wider at that corner in Valencia with Maldonado, he may have got a podium position, of IF he’d let Maldonado through, as Alonso would probably have done in that situation, he’d have scored some points instead of a DNF.

        • Jake (@jleigh) said on 19th October 2012, 9:54

          I refuse to believe for a second that Alonso would ever just let another driver through when it was possible to defend from them (in Canada it wasn’t)

  14. RayF1 said on 19th October 2012, 7:41

    In terms of who has impressed me most, I’ve got to say Button. For the simple reason that he came into team Hamilton at McLaren in 2010, was widely expected to be humiliated by the upcoming super fast Hamilton, but has not really been the case. Yes, on a dry race weekend, Hamilton is usually going to have the edge in qualifying and the race, but when it comes to races in mixed weather conditions, Button has time and time, proven himself to be more than a match for Hamilton. By comparison, Hamilton entered F1, put in a superb rookie season, followed by a convincing one to claim his sole championship. But his career hasn’t quite elevated from there, as I’m sure he himself expected it to. Mechanical failures and pit errors aside, there have been a few occasions where his wheel to wheel wisdom could be questioned, plus, by his own admission, a fairly poor season in 2011, where he took his personal issues onto the track. He still has to aquire that “Complete” word, to his driver description, but it may come in time. So, on the basis that overall, Button has done better than I expected, and Hamilton has not done as well as I expected, that is why my vote goes to Button.

    • MrLovaLova said on 19th October 2012, 9:53

      Considering the fact that Button has been racing in F1 for MORE THAN A DECADE, he should have more experience when it comes to car setup and race strategy than Hamilton. In that case, considering that he’s racing in one of the fastest cars in F1, I’d expect him to blaze past Hamilton in every season. Instead, he has ended up pretty much equal to him. That just highlights the mediocrity of Button, not the weaknesses of Hamilton.

      • RayF1 said on 19th October 2012, 16:45

        I take your point, but Hamilton came into F1 and was hailed as the dog’s doo daa’s, whereas, Button has never been viewed in such a light. The team was also very much Hamilton’s patch when Button joined, due to the rather lackluster effort that Kovalainen had produced. Button himself has said many times that he does not have the raw speed of Hamilton, and most would agree, but he hasn’t quite had the licking that many predicted.

  15. The fact that Button has almost the same amount of points as Hamilton during the last three years is not surprising to me. It reveals several aspects of modern F1.

    First of all, 80-90 % of the drivers on the grid are truly exceptional drivers in any other series than F1. In order to be one of the few that excell even in F1 you have to be an exceptional among exceptionals. Maybe Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton and Raikkonen out of the present crop can be seen as such individuals.

    Button, Webber, Massa, Hulkenberg, DiResta, Maldonado, Perez, Kobayashi, Ricciardo and several others are not far behind. We`re talking fractions of a second here, not seconds.

    That`s why other qualities are almost as important as outright speed. And Button is among the cunniest driver out there, he knows when to push and when to hold back and is very aware of what`s going on around him (rain, surface and so on). Furthermore he always try to protect his car, if the risk is too big he won`t risk it. As a consequence he will always pick up more points in the middle than Hamilton does.

    Interestingly the same qualities that earn Button consistent point scoring is reducing his outright one-lap speed. He doesn`t risk as much as Hamilton and will as a consequence not be as quick over one lap. But in the long run there`s not much between them.

    If Hamilton was able to reduce his mistakes while maintaining his speed he would probably beat Button hands down. But can he do that, or is part of Hamiltons outright speed down to his willingness to risk it?

    I don`t know, but even though I`ve never been a fan of Button I`m getting fed up with people putting him down. He`s got a World Championship to his credit at the pinnacle of motorsport and has consistetly been up there for years. Give credit where credit is due.

    • MrLovaLova said on 19th October 2012, 10:28

      I don’t see how the amount of risk a driver takes affects his qualifying lap time. Qualifying laps have more to do with innate speed than risks taken, and like I said, if he really was so cunning and wily, the way Alonso is, I would expect him to blaze past an inexperienced ‘hot-head’ like Hamilton. But he hasn’t. Cause he just isn’t that fast.

  16. MrLovaLova

    Risktaking is an important part of a qualifying lap where you are on the ragged edge. By stretching the limits you might go a little bit faster. But to do the same over the course of a race is much more difficult as chances are you will spin off sooner or later.

    Button is indeed a very solid craftsman. I don`t understand your point regarding Hamilton. Hamilton might be a “hot-head”, but he`s definitely fast. The fact that he and Button are so equally matched and both of them have won Championships should really tell you all you need to know.

    Only time can give a comparison between the 2 drivers, and it has. Almost three years in the same team, Button had to adapt to McLaren in 2010 and Hamilton is leaving at the end of the season. There`s not much between them, but Hamilton probably has the edge.

    • MrLovaLova said on 19th October 2012, 11:33

      Qualifying has very little to do with risk taking, risks are taken when somebody deals with uncertainty. There is very little uncertainty during qualifying, cause the drivers usually carry out all the required tests during the practice sessions, so the drivers know which setup will give the best time, and during qualifying, there is usually very little traffic, so the drivers get much more freedom to use the track to the max. In fact, the teams and drivers who do get out of their safety zones and “take risks” usually end up suffering during qualifying, just see what happened to Lewis in GBR and SPA.

      It isn’t about who has won a championship and who hasn’t. It took Button 10 years to accomplish what Hamilton did in 2, and even though they both have the same car since 2010, the best he can do is be Hamilton’s “equal”. In the real world, anybody with 10 years of experience in a certain profession tends to be much, much better than a person who only has 5 years of experience. In the case of Button and Hamilton, that phenomenon has not been observed. So what does that say about Button, and what does that say about Hamilton ??

  17. Jason (@jason12) said on 19th October 2012, 11:14

    Over the three seasons that they’ve both spent at McLaren, Lewis has clearly demonstrated he’s the better driver. Jenson has done a good job too, especially when the car is perfect.

    • Jason

      I don`t think Hamilton has demonstrated clearly that he`s the better driver of the two, just look at the point-gap between them. What Hamilton has proven in my view is that he has more potential than Button has.
      But the world is full of wasted potential, and it`s worth nothing unless it`s converted into results.

  18. MrLovaLova said on 19th October 2012, 11:44

    This is non-sense. When Rosberg was out-performing Schumi at Merc, nobody was saying that Schumi is the better driver. So when Lewis is outperforming Jenson at McLaren, why is Jenson the better driver all of a sudden ??

    • I agree, it`s non-sense as Hamilton hasn`t outperformed Button, and neither has Button outperformed Hamilton. They have been pretty evenly mached for the last three years. Nobody`s been saying Button is better than Hamilton, but many have been saying that they`ve been pretty evenly matched as team mates.

      As for your point about Button needing 10 years to win a championship when Hamilton managed to do so in just 2 years I have a couple of points.

      Never in Formula 1 history has a young rookie been given the opportunity Hamilton got. It has never happened before, and I doubt it will happen again in my lifetime. To be lucky enough at the age of 22 years old to be put in the best package on the grid, unimaginable.
      Button on the other hand (and everybody else for that matter) had to take the long hard route through the ranks driving midfield cars and sometimes backmarkers. That will add some years to your career before you have the chance to be crowned World Champion.
      So what was Hamilton able to make of this golden opportunity? He`s got one Championship back in 2008 and a decent number of race wins. But not more than you should expect from any driver worthy of a drive in a McLaren.
      Since Button joined McLaren in 2010 he hasn`t won a championship, you`re right about that. What you forget to mention is that neither has Hamilton. As a matter in fact since 2010 nobody except Sebastian Vettel has won a championship.

      I think it`s sad that Hamilton-fans don`t understand that by trying to belittle Button you`re indirectly putting down Hamilton as well. And neither of the two deserve that, both of them are among the best drivers out there.

      • MrLovaLova said on 19th October 2012, 13:40

        What rubbish !!! 2 out of 3 seasons, Hamilton has outranked and outscored his team-mate. Even when he had a crap season in 2011, he was getting good points finishes for the team. If you say that they are evenly matched based on the points scored over three seasons, consider the points lost by both drivers over this season due to McLaren screw-ups, Hamilton will come up on top in that department. But keeping the screw-ups aside, you still don’t get my point.

        You yourself said that Button has spent a long time “fighting” in F1. Considering the amount of time he has spent in F1 with teams such as Williams, Renault and Honda (the ancestor of Brawn GP), you’d think he would bring a ton of knowledge and experience to the table when he joins an illustrious team like McLaren. Combined with that fact that he is now an instrumental part of the team when it comes to developing the car, why is this F1 veteran not able to beat his junior ?? And experienced doctor treats a patient in a much better way than an inexperienced one, an experienced pilot carries out a better landing than an inexperienced one, so why is it that an experienced driver like Jenson is only able to “equal”, if not out-perform, his relatively inexperienced team-mate ? Either those 10 years in F1 totally went to waste, or he has lost his “solid craftsmanship”.

        ” So what was Hamilton able to make of this golden opportunity? He`s got one Championship back in 2008 and a decent number of race wins. But not more than you should expect from any driver worthy of a drive in a McLaren.” You make it sound like it is a small feat for a driver to win a championship in his second season. Lets not forget about all the bull he had to withstand with Alonso in his first year. The amount of courage it takes to stand up to a 2 time world champion, in a team you have just joined, is humungous, and like you said, give credit where credit is due.

        • A lot of ifs in your response. We`re talking about combined points over almost three seasons her. That`s statistic material enough to make a judgement without talking about if this or if that hadn`t happened.
          I`ll take another example from the last three years.
          Vettel has had more DNF`s due to serious mechanical failures than Webber for the last three years, if you count their respective points you will se what outperform means. Webber is also much more experienced than Vettel and should according to your logic wipe the floor with Vettel. Well he hasn`t, he`s been well and truly beaten each and every year. If you count combined points for 2010, 2011 and 2012 I think Vettel has collected almost 200 more than Webber. Noe that`s ouperforming my friend.

          I`m sure you`ll have som “ifs” and “buts” about Vettel and Webber too. But it`s not very interesting as results usually speak for themselves.

          Better to accept that Britain has two very good drivers in F1 and leave it at that. Then we can discuss whether Hamilton is a great F1-driver or not later, if he goes on to win two or three more championships that is. If he doesn`t the discussion is pointless and I will not be bothered.

          • MrLovaLova said on 19th October 2012, 17:48

            I didn’t use ‘ifs’ to create subjunctives, I used ‘ifs’ to question your arguments. Statistics are meant to be deceiving, and a wise man would never form an opinion based solely on them.

            I never said Webber should “wipe the floor” with Vettel, I said somebody with EXPERIENCE should perform better than somebody without experience. Webber hasn’t been able to outscore Vettel, which is why Webber is not better than Vettel, the same way you cannot say Button is better than Hamilton, WHICH IS EXACTLY MY POINT !!!!!!!

            I am not saying Hamilton is a great driver, I am just being logical and saying that Jenson, as a senior driver, should be out-performing Lewis, he shouldn’t be ‘on-par’ with him. If you wish to brush off logic, that’s your prerogative.

        • If you’ve ever spoken to any of the engineers at Mclaren they will tell you that Jenson has brought a wealth of experience to the team and that is the reason they were keen to resign him last year. They didn’t fight too hard for Lewis did they

          • MrLovaLova said on 19th October 2012, 17:53

            Like I said, the “experience” hasn’t delivered the results as far as the points are concerned.Internal politics aside, Lewis going to Merc will be a huge loss for McLaren. Lets just hope Perez can get the job done.

  19. McGregski (@mcgregski) said on 19th October 2012, 13:25

    before I start, I’m a Hamilton fan but not a “fan boy”, here are my thoughts on the pairing:

    Hamilton is quicker in Quali – this is undeniable
    Jenson is better at managing changeable conditions – Canada 2011
    The points add up to pretty much the same over the 3 years – different approaches yield the same results

    None of the above makes either driver better than the other over the course of their partnership but I would much rather watch Hamilton going all out with his all or nothing approach than watch the consistency of Button. This is after all a racing series and while they are equally good drivers, I feel Hamilton is a much better racer.

    If we could change the regulations and go back three years, bring back re-fuelling and bring back predictable tyres – I would bet that Hamilton would obliterate Button, due to being a better racer rather than driver

    Just my tuppence

    • carl craven said on 20th October 2012, 2:22

      Your point is well noted and interesting. Hamilton is a sprinter, Button a long distance runner. But this is a long distance endurance race. Not a series of short sprints. It’s meant to be long and tough and incorporate many variables.

      Changing balance of the car, fuel load, tyres, track and weather changes. All to be considered as part of the challenge. At one time some of the tracks were so long that it would be raining at one part of the circuit and completely sunny at the other.

      I like Hamilton, a bit naive I believe but yes, a bloody good racer. But I love to watch it when Button gets it right and by that I don’t mean pole to win. I mean, he manages the race, his tyres, the competition the conditions and he’s a driver that knows how to overtake too. While Lewis is incredibly fast over one lap, Button holds a full gamut of skills to manage a long race and that for me is far more interesting than watching Lewis nail pole and dominate a race or to run his tyres ragged chomping at the heels of the guy in front, something he has done often only to see Button make up the gap Lewis put between them.

      Mercedes is going to make or break for Lewis the same way the move to Mclaren was for Button.

  20. Nickpkr said on 19th October 2012, 20:24

    Hamilton lost some 30 points by going backwards when had the fastest car lost 20 in first races this year. And this why he is 4-5 at best on the grid, Vettel won twice already by taking the advantage of the fast car when has it. Hamilton did very good actually, but people expects much more than his capacity truth he is quite average and even Maldonado, Rosberg, etc can do pole and win races with the fastest car.
    Maybe that is what he is to proof at Merc but who cares ?
    The score is a 5th each a 4th for Hamilton and a 2nd for Button, I will surprise if they do more than 4th and 5th this year and again with a faster car most races.

    • MrLovaLova said on 20th October 2012, 17:32

      If you watched followed F1 closely, you would have realised that Hamilton was actually leading the drivers championsip table after the first 3 races, so your argument about him “throwing away points” is bogus. Nobody is saying how Jenson threw away points when he crashed in Karthikeyan at Malaysia, or how he squandered valuable grid positions with all those dud qualifying sessions this season. Its true, Hamilton isn’t the best at starts, but saying that Maldonado and Rosberg can do better than him in a McLaren is total BS.

    • MrLovaLova said on 20th October 2012, 17:35

      If you followed F1 closely, you would have realized that Hamilton was actually leading the drivers championship table after the first 3 races, so your argument about him “throwing away points” is weak. Nobody is saying how Jenson threw away points when he crashed in Karthikeyan at Malaysia, or how he squandered valuable grid positions with all those dud qualifying sessions this season. Its true, Hamilton isn’t the best at starts, but saying that Maldonado and Rosberg can do better than him in a McLaren is total BS.

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