David Coulthard, Red Bull, New Jersey, 2012

New Jersey Grand Prix ‘postponed to 2014’

F1 Fanatic round-upPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

David Coulthard, Red Bull, New Jersey, 2012In the round-up: The second F1 race in the USA may be postponed until 2014.


Top F1 links from the past 24 hours:

Mayors: Formula 1 race along Hudson River waterfront postponed until 2014 (NJ.com)

“The much-heralded plan for the Grand Prix of America to run a race along the Hudson River waterfront in Weehawken and West New York next year has been postponed until 2014, according to two mayors with knowledge of the plan.”

Arrest warrant for Mallya withdrawn (The Telegraph)

Force India co-owner Vijay Mallya has had the arrest warrant issued against him by an Indian court withdrawn following the settlement of a dispute over payments.”

Giddy up! Schumacher ready to ride into the sunset (Reuters)

“Formula One offers the maximum in terms of emotion, speed, and complete work. Any other kind of car would not give me the same emotions. I am stopping here completely.”

David Coulthard to bow out at DTM season finale in Hockenheim (DTM)

“I am looking forward to the final race of what has been an exciting season in the DTM. The weekend will be my final opportunity to compete at this level as I will stop racing in the DTM to concentrate on my developing off-track businesses and of course my family.”

F1 teams pushing to avoid tyre ‘shock’ (Autosport)

“On the back of Pirelli submitting its 2013 data, F1 team engineers have conceded that they did not react as well as they should have to the changes made for 2012, which is why they will be taking matters much more seriously this time out.”

Thailand government claims to have struck deal to host Bangkok Grand Prix in 2014 (The Independent)

“Kanokphand Chulakasem, governor of the Sports Authority of Thailand, was quoted as saying ‘Formula One has decided to include Thailand in its 2014 season calendar’ with a race slated for November.”

Reasons behind a decision (Ferrari)

“The decision to extend the agreement with Felipe Massa for another season was carefully weighed up and not just the obvious one. Nor was it inevitable because of the lack of alternatives, nor was it in anyway guided by the wishes of his current team-mate, because Ferrari alone chooses its drivers.”

Andretti To Open COTA In 2010 Renault (Speed)

Mario Andretti will drive the Lotus team?s 2010 Renault R30 at the opening ceremony at Circuit of The Americas on Sunday.”

Left wanting more at the Korean Grand Prix (Toro Rosso)

“It was pretty confusing for the next few corners. The car was drive-able but I didn?t have much in the way of brake performance and the car was veering to the left whenever I attempted to brake. Then the team told me the telemetry showed I had no braking on the front right.”

Luciano Bacheta drives Williams F1 car at Silverstone (Formula Two)

“I’m still taking it all in and I am sure that it won’t be until I go away and reflect that I’ll realise quite how brilliant it was. The car is just a pleasure to drive, better than anything I’ve driven before, so I’d love to have some more experience of Formula One in the future.”

Addingham schoolboy racer aims to impress F1 stars in India (Ilkley Gazzette)

“Fifteen-year-old Toby Earle from Addingham will be driving in two rounds of the JK Asia Racing Series for the Meritus GP team in the Formula BMW race.”

Capturing Korea (ESPN)

“It was just an opportunity to get a shot of a couple of guys trying to out-psych each other during practice. This is what they do sometimes, when one’s slowed down the other will go past; I think this was actually on a slowing down lap but they were just battling.”

The Secret Underside of a Modern F1 Car (Road and Track)

“Topside, Rosberg?s car uses multi-element wings to produce downforce, but peer underneath and you?ll find a cocktail of mind-bending vortex generators and what F1 designer Nick Wirth calls a ‘horrific assortment of [interconnected] parts and pieces.'”

F1: Chart Of Pirelli Compounds vs Race Winner (F1 Goggles)

“The trend has been that Vettel has yet to win with a hard/medium combination. Alonso has never won with a hard/soft combination.”

Comment of the day

Sumedh on Hamilton and Button at McLaren:

This pairing reminds me so much of the Kimi Raikkonen-Felipe Massa pairing. Raikkonen (Hamilton) was expected to trounce Massa (Button) and did so in the first year. But in the second year, the other driver had the upper hand. And after the third season, the partnership ends with the faster driver making a bizarre career decision (Raikkonen leaving F1, Hamilton going to Mercedes).

Massa beat Raikkonen. So, I will put my money on Button for the last five races.

From the forum

Happy birthday!

Happy birthday to Daykind and Estesark!

If you want a birthday shout-out tell us when yours is by emailling me, using Twitter or adding to the list here.

On this day in F1

Lewis Hamilton escaped a penalty ahead of the decisive 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix five years ago today.

Hamilton along with Jenson Button and Takuma Sato’s teams were fined after using an extra set of wet weather tyres in practice.

Image ?? Red Bull/Getty images

93 comments on “New Jersey Grand Prix ‘postponed to 2014’”

Jump to comment page: 1 2
  1. Happy birth day to Heikki Kovalainen!!

  2. artificial racer
    19th October 2012, 8:01

    Did this news get covered elsewhere?
    Massa Raced Red Bull-Style Exhaust In Korea:

    Ferrari raced an all-new Red Bull-style exhaust on only Felipe Massa’s car in Korea last weekend, according to the Spanish newspaper 20 Minutos. The news would explain the Brazilian driver’s better pace than teammate Fernando Alonso in the sister F2012, and also the Spaniard’s confidence that he is still in the running to beat Sebastian Vettel to the title despite a new six-point championship deficit and Red Bull’s recent dominance. Indeed, 20 Minutos claims Alonso will be running the Massa-specification on his own red car next weekend in India. The report also said Ferrari is working hard in former F1 team Toyota’s state of the art Cologne wind tunnel on a so-called ‘double DRS’ straightline speed-boosting system.”

    1. A surprising story if true, given Alonso’s recent comments about the slow pace of development of this year’s car.

    2. So Massa’s exhaust was different from Alonso’s?
      Here’s a little comparison of the two: looks pretty similar to me

      1. Hm, that would have to be an extremely subtle change :-)

      2. Ferrari are running a Coanda exhaust (like McLaren, Lotus, AMG etc) , where as aren’t Red Bull still running a purely downwash design (like Sauber) with the undercut tunnel feeding the diffuser?

        Those pictures clearly show an external Coanda system on both red cars.

    3. Ferrari must have put Klingon camouflage on top of their RB style exhaust, or else how do you explain the lack of any picture or video of it? And there is enough of them showing the ferrari’s own exhaust design on Massa’s car.
      I wonder if internet news sites really think that if they repeat something enough times it will make it real XD

    4. That is not a true story. It was a bad translation from a Spanish newspaper, “20 minutos” was its name I recall. The paper said they will try to develop the exhaust for the Indian GP, but who ever translated it, got it completely wrong.

      1. @caci99 Thanks for the info.

  3. Am I the only one who seems to be happy with the announcement that there’s difficulties over USA2 GP?

    I’m still yet to see any evidence that American F1 fans have been to an F1 race and enjoyed it since 2004.. It’s a huge risk putting 2 races on in the US, no matter how large the potential fanbase is/could be

    Of course, I hope to be proven wrong, cause new tracks are meant to be exciting and draw in crowds, but I just think this is happening too quickly for a country that only 7 years ago staged one of the worst races in F1 history…

    1. Of course, you’re missing the point that Indianapolis 2005 was a terrible failure of a race due to politicking and fallout from the tyre war going on.

      Bridgestone knew about the tyre surface ahead of the event, Ferrari vetoed changes to the circuit, Mosley got involved, everyone got angry, Michelin made multiple bad decisions, Schumacher and Rubens nearly took each other out of the race, Monteiro got a bloody podium and everyone came out of it looking like fools.

      1. “road surface”, not “tyre surface”.

      2. Ferrari vetoed changes to the circuit

        Thats actually not true, Nobody from Ferrari was ever asked as Jean Todt was never invited to any of the raceday morning meetings.

        The circuit wasn’t altered because under the regulations the circuit layout cannot be altered after qualifying. There was also insurance reasons as any alterations to the layout would not have been covered meaning any damage, injury or fatality could have resulted in legal problems.

        I was at Indy that weekend working in the pits/paddock for FOM & there’s a lot of stuff that was never made public & a lot of the stuff that was isn’t totally accurate.

      3. I don’t see why one should point to Ferrari as being the bad guy, when obviously Michelin got it wrong. And because they got it wrong the majority of the teams running Michelin and Michelin itself tried to turn the event as if it were the Brigestone teams (Ferrari) doing the wrong. It was a tyre war, if the Michelin tyres weren’t up to the circuit it was their fault and the teams should have setup the cars accordingly.

        1. Wasn’t even a problem for all Michelin teams, Toyota were the only team that had any problems & that was caused by the ‘extreme’ camber angle they were running.

          I spoke to engineers from McLaren, Renault, Williams & Red Bull Saturday evening after qualifying & all were perfectly happy with the tyres & said they had suffered zero signs of any problem.

          The biggest problem that weekend was the way Michelin & the GPMA teams decided to play politics with something that seriously wasn’t the issue they made it out to be.

          You can see this just by looking at the way they tried to shift blame onto Ferrari/Jean Todt for there been no circuit changes when as I said above nobody was from Ferrari was ever consulted.
          Also how they said that Max Mosley had interfered to prevent a chicane when in fact Max Mosley wasn’t consulted & actually had little idea of what was happening as he wasn’t there.

          Charlie Whiting told the teams very early on that changes to the track were no option & clearly laid out the reason why. There was zero room to work as far as that went, Not just because of the regulations but also because of the insurance policies.

          Charlie said he would waver the regulations banning tyre changes & allow teams to change tyres as many times as they felt they needed to during the race, Michelin claimed they didn’t have enough tyres available to do this even thought they said they could have got new compounds out overnight.

          As I understand it there was 1 team meeting Sunday morning which Bernie Ecclestone was invited to that lasted an hour in which the only thing discussed was the threats of a breakaway series. Oddly considering what was going on, In this same meeting Bridgestone were informed that should that breakaway series go ahead Michelin would be its sole tyre supplier.

  4. Even though the team is based in the UK, and races under an Austrian flag, would the Thailand Grand Prix be RedBull’s home race? :P

    1. @calum I guess it could very loosely be a home GP for them :P

  5. Schumacher expects rodeo to be safer than riding a bike?
    I’d rather see him testing the 2014 Pirelli’s and make one final comeback at Sauber – winning WDC.

  6. Wow! The Hamilton/Button and Räikkönen/Massa pairing is so similar and I never noticed! Bizarre..

  7. Those tyre stats are really interesting. A more telling way of putting it is Red Bull haven’t been successful with the medium compound at all, and with that compound featuring in 3 of the remaining 4 races, no wonder Webber made the comments he did. Especially considering that compound has been present in all of Alonso’s victories.

    Perhaps Red Bull haven’t been able to find a set-up that works well on that compound so they’ve been going with compromises that affect their pace on the alternate compounds.

    Either way, it will be interesting to see if this theory comes in to play for the rest of the season, it would be foolish to flat out dismiss it.

    1. never mind, just re-read the chart and realised Vettel won in Bahrain on the mediums… apologies, still the trend is there I think.

Jump to comment page: 1 2

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

All comments are moderated. See the Comment Policy and FAQ for more.