German GP moved earlier for extra race in 2013

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Start, Hockenheim, 2012The FIA has moved the date of the German Grand Prix forward by a week to create space on the 2013 F1 calendar for a new European event.

The 2013 German Grand Prix will take place on July 7th, one week after the British Grand Prix and the same weekend as the Goodwood Festival of Speed.

A meeting of the World Motor Sport Council at Istanbul in Turkey confirmed a space has been left on the calendar for another race in Europe on July 21st, one week before the Hungarian Grand Prix.

This is expected to be a return to Istanbul Park for the Turkish Grand Prix. If the extra race goes ahead it will mean the 2013 calendar remains at 20 races as the Jersey Grand Prix is being postponed to 2014.

Paul Ricard and Magny-Cours have also been trying to return to the calendar as the host of the French Grand Prix. Red Bull have also mooted the possibility of holding a race in Austria at the Red Bull Ring (formerly the A1 Ring).

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68 comments on German GP moved earlier for extra race in 2013

  1. matt90 (@matt90) said on 5th December 2012, 18:56

    I don’t remember Goodwood ever clashing with F1, seeing as so many teams and drivers are present. I wonder if Goodwood will change its date, or if this will be the weakest Festival of Speed in years.

    • thatscienceguy said on 5th December 2012, 21:27

      FoS has always been scheduled for a weekend not clashing with with major motorsport to be able to attract top teams/people from different categories.

      F1 has made a mess of next years calendar, first forcing Le Mans to move to avoid a clash, and now creatung a clash with FoS. In one fell swoop they’ve damaged two of the most important motorsport events of the year. But maybe that was their intention….

      • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 6th December 2012, 7:37

        In one fell swoop they’ve damaged two of the most important motorsport events of the year.

        Yes, I’m sure this was all part of a master plan to weaken the appeal of Goodwood. The FIA and Bernie conspired to create a bogus race in New Jersey, which they then dropped and started negotiations with new circuits once Goodwood had set a date, giving them a ready-made excuse to move the German Grand Prix to that same weekend.

        Or, as a much more reasonable explanation, negotiations with alternate venues for New Jersey showed that the best way forward was to move the German Grand Prix forward by two weeks. The organisers of the race at the Nurburgring agreed to this on the condition that doing so would protect the race regardless of the circuit’s financial condition. All parties involved liked this solution, as it allowed for twenty races in the 2013 season, adding a replacement for New Jersey and protecting an existing – and some would say important – race on the calendar, and Goodwood was simply a victim of circumstance.

        But no, when I put it like that, it’s obviously an insidious conspiracy to weaken the Goodwood Festival of Speed for absolutely no reason at all, because Goodwood does not provide any kind of threat to Formula 1′s popularity.

        [/sarcasm]

        • thatscienceguy said on 6th December 2012, 12:01

          Says the guy who yesterday admitted he likes a conspiracy theory or two.
          Chill dude, far out…

  2. Ryan Williams (@ryanwilliams) said on 5th December 2012, 19:37

    I expect Goodwood will announce a date change soon. You can’t have the Festival of Speed without F1. I’d guess they’d either push it back a week (Clashes with MotoGP, SRO Sprint Series & IndyCar) or have it the weekend after the Canadian GP (13th-16th June) but this still clashes with MotoGP & DTM

    • Ryan Williams (@ryanwilliams) said on 5th December 2012, 23:13

      Actually, with the German MotoGP round on the same weekend as the German GP, there is no reason why Goodwood couldn’t move the FoS to the 14th July. No F1 and MotoGP would mean all the drivers and riders could attend

  3. Commendatore (@commendatore) said on 5th December 2012, 20:05

    To Bernie:
    Bring back Brands Hatch!

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 5th December 2012, 22:40

      It’s in no condition to host a Formula 1 race. It’s too small, lacks the necessary safety features of all Grade-1 circuits, and has no room to expand or rebuild to accomodate the changes that would be needed to bring it up to standard.

  4. Joey Zyla (@) said on 5th December 2012, 22:18

    *sigh*

    We already have a race in Bahrain, we don’t need two races in countries with ongoing protests/wars.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 6th December 2012, 7:45

      @joey-zyla – I’m not aware of any protests or wars in Turkey or Austria. The only possible thing I can think you’re referring to is Turkey’s action against Syria, and all they’re doing is defending themselves, trying to prevent a civil war in the country next door from spilling over and taking hold in their own lands. They’ve also agreed to let NATO station missile batteries inside their own borders, and while those missiles are aimed at Syria, they’re intended as a further deterrent.

      Heaven forbid that Formula 1 should hold a race in a country willing to defend itself from an ongoing bloody conflict in a neighbouring country and allow itself to be used as a base for Western military powers to try and bring stability to the region that has been missing for a year.

  5. Joey Zyla (@) said on 5th December 2012, 22:21

    I think a return to Magny-Cours would be awesome, but Bernie doesn’t seem to be in to the idea of a French GP.

  6. Macca (@macca) said on 5th December 2012, 22:23

    Worst move ever. They have moved the German GP to the same week end as the German round of the Moto GP. Crowds will suffer big time.

    • thatscienceguy said on 5th December 2012, 22:40

      And DTM at the Norisring apparently. Which was moved to avoid a clash with the original F1 date

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 6th December 2012, 7:39

      Right, because everyone who follows MotoGP also follows Formula 1, everyone who follows Formula 1 also follows MotoGP, and there is no-one who only follows one category, but has no interest in the other. That guy who lived down the hall from me in college and loved MotoGP whilst hating Formula 1 must have been a freak of nature.

  7. Adam Blocker (@blockwall2) said on 5th December 2012, 23:54

    I wouldn’t mind a race in France, Turkey or Austria. I just don’t see them doing that many back-to-back races (in fact I don’t want them to), they should move Hungary back a week, then pair Silverstone and Germany together and pair the France/Turkey race with Hungary.

  8. AdrianMorse (@adrianmorse) said on 5th December 2012, 23:56

    How hot is Istanbul going to be in the middle of July? Still, it’s a good track, but Paul Ricard and the Red Bull Ring would also be good options.

    What I don’t understand is why heaven and earth is being moved to keep 20 races on the calendar, given that the workload for the teams is so heavy already.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 6th December 2012, 0:02

      @adrianmorse

      What I don’t understand is why heaven and earth is being moved to keep 20 races on the calendar, given that the workload for the teams is so heavy already.

      The teams did twenty races this year, and didn’t complain about it at all. In fact, they’ve given twenty races as the ideal number for the championship. It may not be as ideal sixteen or eighteen races, but no doubt they’re getting some kind of compensation for it.

      So long as the teams are happy to do twenty races, I see no reason why that should change.

  9. Michael (@freelittlebirds) said on 6th December 2012, 6:00

    Here’s an interesting link showing the number of races per season.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_Grands_Prix#Races_by_season

    From 1980 to 2000, there were about 16 races per season. From 2000-2100 that number jumped to 17-18. Now they are obviously pushing towards 20.

    As fans, of course, we want to watch as many races as possible.

    • Joey Zyla (@) said on 6th December 2012, 17:31

      No, 16 is fine for me. What happens when you have 20 races is you don’t get to narrow it down to the truly best circuits. There should be at least two of the newer circuits (Yeongam, Buddh, Austin, etc.) removed.

  10. Michael (@freelittlebirds) said on 6th December 2012, 6:01

    Oh, did anyone know that Morocco had hosted a F1 gran prix before?

  11. TMF (@tmf42) said on 6th December 2012, 7:28

    My guess, France or Turkey. Austria would be nice but unrealistic.

  12. JackySteeg (@jackysteeg) said on 9th December 2012, 16:16

    Red Bull Ring makes perfect sense. They surely already have the money, whereas France and Turkey will no doubt need government funding.

    Also, F1 needs a short track. Shorter tracks mean more laps in a race, more traffic for the drivers and therefore more action for the fans in the grandstands. I don’t understand why F1 seems to favour those mid-length tracks…

  13. AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 10th December 2012, 22:17

    I hope it is the return of the Turkish GP, it’s my favourite F1 grade circuit by bar. Almost it’s pretty cool how the German GP will coincide with the FoS as I will most likely try and get to Goodwood next year.

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