Lewis Hamilton, Ron Dennis, Spa-Francorchamps, 2010

Dennis admits McLaren could have kept Hamilton

2013 F1 seasonPosted on Author Keith Collantine

Lewis Hamilton, Ron Dennis, Spa-Francorchamps, 2010Ron Dennis says McLaren could have kept Lewis Hamilton in its team for 2013.

Hamilton left McLaren to join Mercedes for the 2013 season.

Speaking to the magazine of the Confederation of British Industry in December, Dennis said: “Did we have the ability to create a situation where we could have stayed together? Categorically, yes.”

“Would that have been the right thing to do? We didn?t think so.”

Dennis added: “Whatever people choose to do at the end of a contractual period, the professional thing to do is to be supportive of the other side.

“We don?t wish him every success at Mercedes ?ǣ that?s understandable, as he?s obviously going to be a competitor ?ǣ but we don?t wish him anything negative.”

“I think it?s wrong to portray that Lewis left this team. At the end of the day, you end up with a situation where you?re going to separate if the circumstances aren?t right.”

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  1. This is why I don’t like Ron Dennis. For all his many talents, not holding grudges isn’t one of them.

    1. A-Safieldin (@)
      4th January 2013, 13:14

      Hahaha +1

    2. @optimaximal
      Hes not holding a grudge. Nowhere in his statements it gives the impression of him holding any grudges against Lewis. Hes simply stating that Mclaren could have met Lewis financial demands, they simply chose not to. Ron Dennis is a competitive character ( he didnt get to where he is now by not being one), so he always going to hope other teams dont do as well as Mclaren. Thats totally understandable and actually, I would expect nothing less from him.

      1. @pmccarthy_is_a_legend

        I think, you’d have to be pretty generous to say that Ron is easy going about this sort of thing…

      2. I think it was not financial, Lewis reportedly will earn less than he’s been offered by McLaren…

  2. “Did we have the ability to create a situation where we could have stayed together? Categorically, yes.”

    “Would that have been the right thing to do? We didn’t think so.”

    Typical RonSpeak! …. therefore HE LEFT!! not that McLaren told him to go.

    1. Does it annoy me when someone repeatedly asks themselves questions and then immediately answers them? Yes.

      1. Does it equally annoy you when interviewers ask overlong questions, because many of the current crop of sports reporters in the British broadcast media seem to feel the need to justify the question by inserting a long and tedious explanation of why they are asking this question, at this time, in these circumstances, usually in an unrelated sub-clause starting with the word “because”, and thereby using up most of the allotted interview time with question, and allowing next to nothing for the answer? Well, it does me!

        1. For sure.

        2. Err? sorry, what was your question again?

      2. hahaha +1 @estesark COTD!

  3. Equally, McLaren could have fired him earlier in the season for tweeting confidential information. As another commentator said, if he had stayed it would have felt like they were keeping it together for the kids. I think he’ll return to McLaren once he’s realised the error of going to Mercedes, but I also think he needs the shock of that to realise what a good thing he had.

    1. Alonso did exactly the same in India after Pat Fry said that Alonso should have done a better job but i bet you don’t know that

      1. Alonso did exactly the same in India after Pat Fry said that Alonso should have done a better job but i bet you don’t know that

        When did Alonso do the same ? He criticised him without taking any name.. Both are completely different scenarios.

      2. Yet he didnt clearly. its not on twitter. rumours suggest he was going to, but nothing more than rumours. so it probably didnt happen.

        Could alonso of got annoyed and lost his temper behind closed doors? you bet, and rightly so.

        Ferrari shouldnt allow Pat near an interviewer. it isnt his strong point

      3. @concalvez00 Almost, but not quite. And almost doesn’t count.

        @mattb Given the state of Ron’s relationship with Lewis (i.e. in tatters), I’m not so sure Lewis will go back to McLaren if it doesn’t work out. It just won’t look good on Lewis. There’s also too many other options he can and probably would explore before deciding to go back. If Vettel is indeed heading to Ferrari, he’d need a replacement at Red Bull. And I can easily see Kimi moving out of Lotus (or even F1 altogether) 2-3 years from now.

        1. Given the state of Ron’s relationship with Lewis (i.e. in tatters), I’m not so sure Lewis will go back to McLaren if it doesn’t work out.

          I dont know if their relationship is destroyed. In fact out of all the drivers who have left Mclaren, it seems like this one ended with a feeling of mutual respect towards each other.

          I woulod be surprised if Lewis doesn’t return to Mclaren again sometime later in his career.

        2. After Mercedes, Lewis is going into hip hop and fashion, that’s why he left McLaren, for more freedom.

          1. He is already into hip hop and fashion.

  4. Chris (@tophercheese21)
    4th January 2013, 11:41

    you’re going to separate if the circumstances aren’t right.”

    And there it is…
    Proof that Lewis and Ron’s relationship has gone sour.

    1. Or simply McL were not prepared to loosen their control over drivers sponsorship deals or allow them to keep their trophies
      Lewis was not prepared to continue under those stipulations.

  5. Move on, they’ve been talking and crying about it for months already…

    You failed to keep him, your fault or not, end of story.

    1. It’s not like they’re sending out press releases about Hamilton’s departure. Dennis was asked about the matter in an interview and he answered, that’s it.

  6. “Did we have the ability to create a situation where we could have stayed together? Categorically, yes.”
    “Would that have been the right thing to do? We didn’t think so.”

    **** Sounds like David Brent! :)

    1. turbotoaster (@)
      4th January 2013, 15:46

      From now on I’m reading EVERYTHING Dennis says as Brent.
      What have you done? :D

  7. I like the way Ron Dennis is trying to imply Lewis left for money and not for the fact they’ve messed up 4 easily winnable WDC’s.

    Sadly McLaren haven’t been consistent since the early 90’s and i doubt they ever will be.

  8. Every time I read an interview from Ron Dennis regarding Lewis’ move I get the feeling that he just finished eating a bowl full of sour grapes.

  9. McLaren certainly will feel it loosing the best driver on the grid, and with a average driver line up for this year it does not look to bright for McLaren honestly

    1. @Concalvez00 – Yeah, it’s not like they have a World Champion, and a promising young talent driving for them next year…

      …Oh wait…

      1. @JamieFranKlinF1, not many people rate Button high besides his fans

      2. @jamiefranklinf1 – Maybe they do have button and Perez, but even with the best car, they will need better form than displayed at the middle and end of the season respectively. Otherwise they still won’t beat Vettel or Alonso.

      3. It’s not like they’ve lost the only one to deliver them a championship this century; the only person to have beaten two reigning world champions; the one who is responsible for approximately one out of every six of the pole positions of McLaren; the one who has recorded one of every nine McLaren victories, the one who outpaced his world champion team mate in 17 of the 20 qualifications this season; the one who is the 3rd most succesful McLaren driver of all time in terms of wins (Senna, Prost); the one who is the equal 2nd most succesful McLaren driver of all time in terms of pole positions (Senna, =Häkkinen)…

        …Oh wait …

        1. @kodongo This would be the guy Jenson Button outscored from 2010-2012, right? ;)

          1. No matter what its fans say, for Jenson to win the championship again his car has to be considerably faster than the rest, the tires suit his driving style, a massive dose of luck and all stars must be aligned throughout the year. Then and just then, will he stand a chance of bringing it home. Basically he needs another freak year, like he had in 2009.

          2. @journeyer I hope that is a joke?

            Stats on paper and reality are two different things. How many times did Jenson outqualify Lewis over their 3 years as team mates…? How many retirements did Jenson suffer from failures? How mant races did Jenson win?… Exactly!

          3. …by virtue of Lewis Hamilton’s woeful 2011 season right? The one who, even in his successful 2011 season was outqualified two thirds of the time and spent around 60% of the laps in all the 2011 races behind his team mate. Yeah, that guy.

          4. er, your wrong. he only outscored him in one year – 2011.

          5. @kodongo Last I saw, you don’t score points in qualifying. ;)

            You seem to imply Lewis is irreplaceable. He’s not – no one is indispensable, not Fernando, not Seb, and definitely not Lewis. McLaren were winning before Lewis came, and they’ll continue winning even after he’s left.

    2. *losing one of the 3 best drivers on the grid.

    3. It’s possible that Perez exceeds the expectations and delivers a series of strong results and that Button gets his perfect car, beats everyone else and ultimately wins the championship in 2013. McLaren would be foolish to aim for anything less. At the same time, I believe they are concerned about their 2013 chances and understand that the loss of Hamilton is a huge one, no matter what Dennis tells the press.

  10. The irony that Lewis is pointing at the Mercedes logo :p

    1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
      4th January 2013, 13:14

      Haha good spot! +1

    2. Nice catch. haha.

    3. So true, lol.

    4. Such things in foto’s here are never a coincidence, right @keithcollantine?

  11. When you have the fastest car over the course of a season but can’t do any better than fourth in the WDC and third in the constructors’ championship, questions have to be asked. Clearly something wasn’t working at McLaren – we didn’t need Ron Dennis to tell us that. What remains to be seen is whether the separation will benefit either party in the medium to long term.

    1. @red-amdy Absolutely right. I think Hamilton has made the right decision.

  12. Zero Constructors Championships since 2000 Or something ? Ron, Lewis left because he was sick of driving for a screw up of a team! Look at all the failures he had since Singapore! Hardly bulletproof! He left because he WANTED to leave!

    I wish Lewis well at Mercedes I really do and I’m no Lewis fan. I’m a bit surprised that, as early as the end of the last season before the final race, Lewis said he may return to McLaren one day. Bit premature no ? Surely if Lewis makes a successful career at Merc and utimately turns around the teams fortunes (like Schumi did with Ferrari) then Lewis would not need to return would he ?

    I always thought it was Lewis I didn’t like while he was at McLaren. Now I realise I just don’t like McLaren! I look forward to seeing him battling with the car and I well think he may surprise a lot of people this year!

    I say, Go Lewis! And thats from an Alonso fan!!!

    1. 1998. Mind you, this was when people considered the likes of Panis, Trulli, Fisichella, Barrichello, Coulthard and Ralf Schumacher as future world champions and Lewis Hamilton was 13 years old.

      McLaren have also categorically either messed up the beginning of the season to the point where they couldn’t catch up, or like 2012, messed up during the season, losing their competitive edge. I’m not even getting started on their reliability issues or Mercedes blowouts before.

      I think McLaren is the best organized team in F1. As a life-long Ferrari fan, it’s a hard thing to say. On the bright side, however, Ferrari have somehow kept their stuff together for longer than McLaren has since I’ve been watching F1 (ironically also in 1998).

  13. That’s the first time I’ve ever seem Ham with a halo!

    1. The first half of the 2007 season? ;)

  14. i don’t think we know much about the atmosphere at McLaren, or the relation between Hamilton and Dennis and Whitmarsh, all we see is some distilled version of their reality packed especially for the media and the public, but it doesn’t really matter anyways.

    the question is that which sides needs the other more. McLaren won 2 drivers titles and 1 constructor title in the last 20 years, which is exactly one less than Red Bulls achievement in the last 3 years. the first of those titles happened, when Red Bulls pre-predecessor, Stewart Grand Prix was barely 2 years old. they had the aerodynamics genie Adrian Newey, the same guy that designs basically the winning Red Bull cars. they wasted a brutal amount of quality drivers. Juan-Pablo Montoya, Kimi Räikkönen, Fernando Alonso and now Lewis Hamilton. of course the massive ego and attitude of these drivers must have played a significant role in the chemistry as well, but basically the team could not really handle them and could not exploit them to their advantage, additionally could not equip them with a technique both fast and reliable, which led to the separation.

    in an ideal world noone should be forced doing, acting or driving against his will. Hamilton had every reason aiming for separate ways, because their relationship looked like disiproving, the car was either fast or reliable, but not very often both, and his career is basically stucked (his best seasons, resultwise are far behind him).

    of course it’s a gamble, more for Hamilton, less for Mercedes. we might see Lewis rushing back to his former team after one year as Alonso did in 2008, or we might see Schumacher+Ferrari like long run evolution which could prove the real worth of him. whatever happens, i’m just curious to see him driving again.

    1. hey wasted a brutal amount of quality drivers. Juan-Pablo Montoya, Kimi Räikkönen, Fernando Alonso and now Lewis Hamilton.

      …as well as Prost and Senna…

      I see what you’re saying but this does also highlight what a magnet for the absolute best McLaren is. The only significant name missing from recent times is of course Schuey. Maybe he had worked it out for himself…

      1. I can’t really consider those two “wasted”, as they brought 3-3 titels for the team. JPM, Kimi, Alonso and Hamilton had the potential to do the same with the team, but insted of a half dozen titles, these 4 were only able to win once.

        The Schuey question is really interesting. As far as I know, Dennis tried to sign him quite a few times, especially in 96-98, but of course he was aiming for different kind of treating, and found it somewhere else.

  15. Something which should be pointed out is that something that cost Mclaren some championships they probably should have won with Kimi was the Mercedes engine.
    Kimi Raikkonen likely would have won the title in 2003 had he not had the engine failure at Nurburgring & it was engine problems again which cost Kimi in 2005 (How many grid penalty’s did he suffer that year due to engine failures?).

    Looking at Lewis’ time at McLaren, Its not always been a team/car problem that’s cost him. He’s had more than a few screw ups of his own, From the stupid error entering the pits at China ’07 to the numerous mistakes he made in 2010 & 2011.

    Even looking back at 2008 when he won the Championship there were several mistakes made by Lewis which nearly cost him the championship & resulted in it ending a lot closer than it should have.

    Anyway if it was frustration with performance/reliability which swayed Lewis’ decision to move, Mercedes have a much poorer record with both, Not just the past 3 years but for a long time over there many forms. The stand out season was 2009 but outside of that what have that team done in terms of performance & reliability?

    1. @Peter_H

      From the stupid error entering the pits at China ’07 to the numerous mistakes he made in 2010 & 2011

      Your whole comment is mostly bias. In China Lewis called to come in but he had to wait so how is that his fault ? in 2010 he made one mistake in Monza, Lewis win the 2010 WDC was it not for the car problems in Hungry, Valencia and Japan and not to mention being taken out by Webber in Australia (was hit and needed to pit again) and Singapore. IN 2011 he made some mistakes so what ?. in Malaysia the team messed up his strategy, in Silverstone his qualify and race where he had to safe fuel and not to mention Hungry where the team put Lewis on the wrong tires

      1. In China Lewis called to come in but he had to wait so how is that his fault ?

        Because he should have been more cautious entering the pit lane knowing he was on worn tyres & that the pit entry was wetter than the racetrack.
        The team may have kept him out too long but going off on pit entry was 100% Lewis’ mistake.

  16. For me it was like this: Witmarsch did not care for Hamilton’s wins, he was out to prove that Jenson Button was the better driver. It did not quite work but if you notice – evebn when Lewis won, Whitmarsch would speak about Jenson first and make very limited comments on Lewis’ achievement. Now that Lewis is gone, I think Whitmarsh cannot escape scrutny. I believe he will NOT be with MacLaren next season if he is not gone before that. Jenson will not perform well in 2013. Perez will be carrying a heavy load of having to fill Hamilton’s shoes. He may crumble under that pressure. This will be good for Jenson as he will then be able to get away with underperforming.

    The most interesting thing last season was the growint respect or ‘love affair’ between Alonso and Hamilton. It’s a beautiful thing as the drivers each realise what a privilege it is to drive in the same epoch. I would not be surprised if that bond grows stronger now. I certainly expect Mercerdes to dominate from here on and Lewis will surprise a lot of people. Rossberg will also surprise in that he will be on the podium with Lewis more often that his whole career so far. It’s going to be an interesting season in which Mercedes will face complaints from other teams who will accuse them of bending the rules after Lewis makes a clean haul in the first 6 races. Buttun will slide and may be equaled by Perez even. Besides Hamilton, Vettel will be one of the top drivers in 2013 together with Alonso. By the end of the season Nico will become one of the most stable drivers and he deserves that title already – I think.

    1. Whitmarsh did not care for Hamilton’s wins, he was out to prove that Jenson Button was the better driver. It did not quite work but if you notice – even when Lewis won, Whitmarsh would speak about Jenson first and make very limited comments on Lewis’ achievement.

      No he wasn’t. Here’s Whitmarsh’s press quotes from three of Hamilton’s wins, chosen at random, one from each of the last three years. There is nothing in this that supports what you’ve said:

      There’s no doubt about it: today we saw a truly fantastic race and an utterly brilliant victory. Apart from one heart-stopping excursion, Lewis was in command of things from lights to flag, and drove prodigiously well all afternoon – all weekend, in fact. From the moment he went out on Friday morning, he was palpably excited about being here at Spa, and it was clear that he always felt confident that a win was on the cards. He really is at the top of his game at the moment. He’s back at the head of the drivers’ world championship standings too – and, but for Sebastian, we’d be leading the constructors’ world championship as well.

      Clearly, had Jenson’s race not been ended by Sebastian’s error, Jenson would have scored a hatful of world championship points – and today is therefore a deeply frustrating day for him. He drove superbly – he’s so good in changeable conditions such as we saw today – but he’s very mature and I know he won’t let this setback get to him.

      Finally, I want to say a big ‘well done’ to everyone at McLaren Racing in Woking and at
      Mercedes-Benz HighPerformanceEngines in Brixworth, without whose relentless efforts we wouldn’t be back where Vodafone McLaren Mercedes belongs: at the front of the field, on the top step of the podium, in rocket-red victory T-shirts, spraying champagne.

      Monza? Bring it on!
      Martin Whitmarsh, 2010 Belgian Grand Prix

      “What can I say? Lewis was perfect in qualifying, and perfect in the race, and the result was perfect too.

      “He made a brilliant start from the front row, storming past Mark [Webber] into the lead, and then nailed the first few laps.

      “After that, the team made all the right strategy calls, and the pitcrew executed the pitstops faultlessly, under extreme pressure.

      “It was a gripping race, real edge-of-the-seat stuff, with all three teams involved operating at the top of their form. When that happens, the victory is particularly hard-won – and mighty satisfying too.

      Believe me, this success will be celebrated loud and long in Nürburgring and Woking tonight – and in Brixworth and Stuttgart too, homes of Mercedes-Benz HighPerformanceEngines, whose home Grand Prix this is. As always, their engine was superb today.

      “Jenson had a difficult weekend, however, and his race ended prematurely today as a result of a hydraulic failure. He’ll be disappointed, inevitably, but he’s a magnificent team player, and a fabulous driver, and I’m sure he’ll bounce back in Budapest next weekend.

      “As for Lewis, well, I reckon his 16th Grand Prix victory was one of his very best: a scintillatingly authoritative performance that all too clearly underlines what a fearsomely competitive individual he is.”
      Martin Whitmarsh, 2011 German Grand Prix

      “Lewis drove a perfect race here at Monza today, and duly took a well-deserved victory – his 20th grand prix win and McLaren’s 180th.

      “In truth, he was in total control throughout all 53 laps, and was never really threatened.

      “We should have scored a one-two finish, but Jenson was deprived of an easy second place by a fuel system problem. That’s frustrating for him and frustrating for us, but the important thing is that our car is a winner. We’ve now won three grands prix in a row, and both our drivers are on top form.

      “Lewis has now closed up to second place in the drivers’ world championship, with seven grands prix still to run. It was his third victory of the season, and Vodafone McLaren Mercedes’ fifth. The momentum is with us, and the drivers’ world championship crown is well within Lewis’s grasp. In the constructors’ championship, too, we’re in good shape.

      “Winning is what Vodafone McLaren Mercedes is all about. In Singapore in two weeks’ time, we’re planning to do some more of it.”
      Martin Whitmarsh, 2012 Italian Grand Prix

      1. Love how in all three, Button’s race had ended due to some external influence/car failure :P

      2. William Brierty
        4th January 2013, 15:47

        So Keith, you’re saying that Whitmarsh is not bringing praise back to Jenson by saying…

        He drove superbly – he’s so good in changeable conditions such as we saw today – but he’s very mature and I know he won’t let this setback get to him.

        he’s a magnificent team player, and a fabulous driver, and I’m sure he’ll bounce back

        Jenson was deprived of an easy second place (ignoring the fact that Perez almost certainly would’ve passed him)

        You’ve made a bit of a fool of yourself here Keith, because the way Whitmarsh seems to overestimate Jenson’s potential result had he not been taken out is a fantastic illustration of favoritism. I would estimate that post race press releases after Jenson had won and Hamilton retired would a) not describe Hamilton’s efforts so favorably and b) be much more upbeat in tone.

        1. So Whitmarsh was over estimating where Jenson would finish, seems to me the same as Lewis fans over estimating where he would have finished in races.A case of a lot of people having crystal balls

        2. Did you miss the terms like “utterly brilliant”, “prodigious”, “perfect”, “storming” to describe your driver? Can you show me where Whitmarsh referred to Button first in any of those instances, as “Jim Baahr” suggested? Or how saying that Hamilton “was never really threatened” suggests that Button is the better driver?

          What do you expect from Whitmarsh when LH wins, a frikkin’ parade?

          1. +1
            Well put.

            Whimarsh has to mention Button as, you know, he is part of the team.
            TBH, he probably had to mention Button more than in other races, perhaps, as Button DNFed, and had to respond directly to that.

            You’ll find the exact same type of response in reverse. If Button wins, it’s “Tremendous drive by Button.” + “Shame for Hamilton/ Also drove a superb race.”
            Which is exactly like what Keith posted above, but with the names swapped around.

      3. Can’t argue against facts but I always felt the bias of Whitmarsh towards Button shining through. I will be watching the MacLaren team with keen interest.

    2. This man has a huge set of crystal balls.

  17. William Brierty
    4th January 2013, 13:33

    This is utter codswallup. In May last year Santander withdrew 40% of their sponsorship, condemning McLaren to 4th position on the F1 teams rich list. This meant, as Ron said after the Canadian GP, McLaren were not able to match salaries paid out in “economically easier times”; such as Hamilton’s previous contracts and Button’s CURRENT contract. Put plainly, McLaren were not able to match Button’s salary without infringing on their already dwindling technical budget. The cold, hard truth is that Hamilton left McLaren, quite sensibly, for the sake of a no. 1 status, the perks of being a “works team” in 2014, commercial freedoms and the larger technical budget of Mercedes; and to avoid becoming Ron’s whipping boy. There is no romantic flight of the nest, because Hamilton has quite rightly noted the fact that McLaren wasted the MP4-27 this year, is struggling financially (hence Perez, not Hulkenberg) and hasn’t won the WCC since 1999, and concluded that he has a better chance of success with Mercedes. I agree.

    So what are you saying Ron? That you consciously chose Perez over Hamilton? That you got rid of the fastest driver in the world (not the most complete) for the sake of a 9 year old with a big piggy-bank? No Ron, not even you are that conceited. No, you couldn’t afford to keep him because you are currently experiencing the most financially austere winter since 2002, when you were only left with a shoe-sting to build the MP4-18 with. McLaren are on the downturn, just wait and see.

    1. Even if they are on a downturn (and I agree), I bet you they will be back in 2016 with Perez as the lead driver and Button gone.I also think Whitmarsh will also be long gone.

  18. Well I don´t think that Mclarean idea to let go on Hamilton is that, maybe Dennis should get and spoker person to not come as dumped girlfriend, but in all I think it was a good administrative decision.

    Is obvious that Hamilton´s behavior wasn´t helping the team. And more than one time this subject have been debated in this site, because for every bit of talent that Hamilton has there is actitude problems that hasn´t help him get tittles (and yes I do know that Mclarean have made mistakes too in the past 2 years).

    Sometimes a work relationship just go sour and is better to “break up”, so if Dennis and Mclarean decided not to offer more money for Hamilton, I respect their decision.

  19. Reading this I wonder if Ron Dennis secretly regrets supporting Hamilton back in 2007 instead of Alonso, and losing the Spaniard in the process. Back then that seemed impossible, but the way Hamilton and McLaren have fallen out begs the question. How and why is it that McLaren go through so many world class drivers more so than say Red Bull or indeed Ferrari?
    McLaren and Dennis especially have always modelled themselves as the team that supports both their drivers equally, but something obviously does not work. Raikkonen and Alonso both tired of McLaren’s ‘way’ of doing things, Juan Montoya only lasted one and a half season’s with them. These are all much respected and sought after drivers, anyone would want them in the team.
    Dennis, at some stage, has to look in the mirror and admit that it is his fault and McLaren’s fault that they lost Hamilton. Lewis is not innocent, he has reacted at times with extreme petulence and arrogance. He was put on a pedastal and you have to look at who put him there. Fernando Alonso as we know is no angel either, but McLaren like it or not lost one of the greatest drivers ever when the backed Hamilton and that was a mistake.
    There second blunder was to put Martin Whitmarsh incharge and last but not least to have not produced a consistently fast car since 2008, and even then, they nearly threw that season away. Hamilton basically tired of McLaren and they of him, but I find it equally interesting that Dennis seems more focused on the past and not 2013. Does he behind closed doors look at his current driver line up and go ‘oh s##t what did we do’? He doesn’t mention Sergio Perez, he doesn’t mention how Jenson Button will do as the team’s #1 driver and team leader. And they think they can beat Vettel or even Alonso, their old ‘associate’. I don’t think so, as long as there is clouds in the sky . There is more chance of the world’s economy coming out of recession and going into another boom than there is of McLaren becoming champions in 2013.

    1. From Alonso-Hamilton pairing, which is without exaggeration one of the strongest lineups ever (imagine having both of them on your team in 2012!!!), they go into 2013 with Button-Perez…

    2. I’ve always felt that McLaren is where some of the great’s are made and then they proceed to further pastures to cement their greatness or flounder. Perhaps the greatest driver of all time, Ayrton Senna, won his first (and indeed all) of his titles in a McLaren. Alain Prost won his first driving for the Woking team (and went on to enjoy success at Williams). Hamilton obviously won a title with them too, so that begs the question will he win another (or several) at Mercedes?

    3. @The Limit said I’m sorry but Alonso is simply not that good as the press and his fans trying to make him, i mean why does Alonso need No1 status if he is ”so called” the most complete driver, team mate to move over for him, team mate to be penaltylised so he can benefit from ?

      1. Alonso is simply not that good as the press and his fans trying to make him

        So why do other F1 teams, Drivers & engineer’s also praise Alonso as been the best?

        You can ignore some bias in fans & certain segments of the media can also show bias, However when you have people from other teams praising Alonso based solely off there data & when you have other drivers doing the same then its clearly not just fan/media spin or bias.

    4. ” There is more chance of the world’s economy coming out of recession and going into another boom than there is of McLaren becoming champions in 2013. ”

      I somehow despite being a ” former ” Mclaren fan , seem too glad to hear that statement . Maybe , I am more of a lewis fan .

  20. I actually would quite like to see Hamilton being successful at Mercedes (even though he isn’t my favourite driver to say the least)! I would pay to see Ron Dennis’ face if Hamilton won a title in 2014 (as I don’t see it likely he can win next year)!

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