Perez on top as lap times fall in Barcelona

2013 F1 testing

Sergio Perez, McLaren, Circuit de Catalunya, 2013Sergio Perez was quickest for McLaren on the second day of testing in Barcelona.

Perez’s lap of 1’21.848 was two-tenths faster than the quickest time seen in testing at the Circuit de Catalunya last year and four-tenths quicker than the pole position time at last year’s Spanish Grand Prix.

As was the case yesterday, Sebastian Vettel headed the times for much of the session. The Red Bull driver caused the first red flag of the day when his car stopped at the pit lane exit 45 minutes before the end of the session.

It was another day of limited running for Kimi Raikkonen. He lost several hours’ running due to a gearbox problem, having been delayed by a telemetry fault yesterday.

After spending much of the session in the pits he quickly set the third-fastest time after he rejoined the track.

Lewis Hamilton had a busy day for Mercedes, completing 121 laps in the W04. Charles Pic was the only other driver to pass the hundred laps mark, enjoying better reliability from his Caterham on the second day.

The session effectively ended when Max Chilton stopped on the track with five minutes to go, causing a second red flag. Marussia had paused their running earlier in the day so their engineers could spend time evaluating the data they had gathered.

Driver Car Best time Laps Difference Tyres
1 Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes MP4-28 1’21.848 97 Soft
2 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault RB9 1’22.197 84 0.349 Soft
3 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault E21 1’22.697 43 0.849 Medium
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes W04 1’22.726 121 0.878 Hard
5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari F138 1’23.247 76 1.399 Medium
6 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault FW35 1’23.561 98 1.713 Soft
7 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari STR8 1’23.718 70 1.870 Medium
8 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes VJM06 1’23.971 62 2.123 Medium
9 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari C32 1’24.205 88 2.357 Medium
10 Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth MR02 1’25.115 67 3.267 Soft
11 Charles Pic Caterham-Renault CT03 1’26.243 102 4.395 Medium

2013 F1 season


Browse all 2013 F1 season articles

Image ?é?® F1 Fanatic | f1fanatic.co.uk

Advert | Go Ad-free

59 comments on Perez on top as lap times fall in Barcelona

  1. Himmat said on 20th February 2013, 16:03

    Caterham. Are. Toast.

    • Nick Jarvis (@nickj95gb) said on 20th February 2013, 20:34

      They were on hard, Marussia were on soft, which are 1.5 seconds faster.. they also run over 100 laps, suggesting they were looking at reliability or something like that. iId say they’re pretty much on par at the moment, and they will be around 1.2/3 seconds off the pace, but it will increase a lot, as they save money for next year’s effort.

  2. Robbie (@robbie) said on 20th February 2013, 16:11

    Nice to see LH get in a good amount of laps.

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 21st February 2013, 7:30

      And decent time on hards. Actually I’m starting to like W04.

      P.S.: I’m ignoring that old ‘fallacy’, “you cannot read too much into winter testing times”

  3. Aimal (@aimalkhan) said on 20th February 2013, 16:14

    Why do the top teams sandbag during testing ? Does it makes a difference if the others know how fast you are ?

    • I think its more that they are more intressed in how the car is with fuel than without. its just Q and last laps that are with less fuel during an weekend. So times are not important now,

    • nidzovski (@nidzovski) said on 20th February 2013, 16:26

      Good point man. Everybody want’s to be fastest. If one is clearly faster than the others,like 1.5s faster, than what could others do. Take out a rabbit out of heat and bridge the gap?!?

      • Simon (@snelle-eddy) said on 20th February 2013, 16:32

        When teams know a car is genuinely fast, the concepts on that car seem to work. Perhaps that is why the don’t want to show their true pace. Now teams see interesting concepts on cars, but they are not exactly sure if it brings something or not.

        Of course this is just a possible reason, i have no idea if it’s correct.

    • @aimalkhan & @nidzovski
      Any of you play poker? You dont show your hand until all the bets are in the pot. If others realize that their hand is weaker, they wouldnt call or even raise your bet, so you would gain less at the end of the round.

      Now, in F1 it is similar, but for a different reason. Say you have a car that is faster than the others, not by 1.5 but just .5 sec. Other teams would surely start searching for a reason, and they would find it. After they have found it, they would try to implement it. If it is a small thing with a grat idea behind, than others can research it and implement it in a short amount of time, maybe even before the first race, and your advantage is gone. Or it would take a huge amount of resources and time to copy your solution, so others would want to have it banned, and there goes your advantage again.

      On the other hand, if you sandbag, it can build up a pressure in other teams, they would start wondering just how fast that thing can be.

      These are just a few examples, but I think it is a reasonable tactic to sandbag, if it wasnt than noone would do it.

      • nidzovski (@nidzovski) said on 20th February 2013, 17:00

        @bag0
        No I’m not a poker guy. Brawn F1 showed their cards in testing in 2009 and still won both titles.

      • petebaldwin (@petebaldwin) said on 20th February 2013, 17:02

        Another reason is that in general, a lot of the work goes into race pace. Blasting around as fast as possible with a few drips of fuel in the tank won’t give much useful data. It’s useful for qualifying but useless for the race and you won’t spend any time with low fuel and new tyres.

        Most of the race is spent trying to preserve fuel/tyres and with higher fuel loads or old tyres so teams simulate these situations. When they’re not doing this, they’re testing new parts and getting the setup right. Why risk crashing and losing crucial hours when there is no benefit.

        • nidzovski (@nidzovski) said on 20th February 2013, 17:31

          Guys I’m well aware of what is going on while testing and I didn’t invent the word “sandbaging” LOL!!! I was just saying that on testing it is to complicated to know who is doing what,regarding the target of the test, to use the word sendbaging. Jurnalist and the guys who want to speculate love that word :)))

    • They don’t “sandbag”

      It’s just not a competition, why go for quickest lap time? What’s the point?

      • David (@shadesofblack) said on 20th February 2013, 17:15

        You get more accurate data running your car to the limit?

      • Robbie (@robbie) said on 20th February 2013, 17:30

        Yeah I’m with you Mike…I don’t know what makes people think teams are sandbagging. I personally don’t think they have enough testing time such that they can afford to sandbag. Maybe they did in the past when testing was so much more plentiful, but between limited days, and then within those days factor in gremlins that hold them back, or weather that they must factor in as a possible deterent to them running their full programs for the pre-season in general, and I don’t think sandbagging can come into play any more. I think that if they appear slow it is because they are heavy on fuel, or are trying things that might allow them to use the process of elimination to help them focus on a direction.

        And I’m not convinced that any team is going to react to something they see or hear or that appears to work well on another car until a) that something is proven to work well over several actual races and b) that something can be fitted to their car without adversely affecting other aspects of it in terms of balance or aero. They’re just learning about their own new creations, so I don’t think they can or would react to something they see on another car until they have had time to analyze things.

  4. melkurion (@melkurion) said on 20th February 2013, 16:15

    Quite amazing to see that in testing, at the start of the year Perez already managed a faster time then the pole from last year.

    It’s amazing how much these cars improve every year!

    • JB (@) said on 20th February 2013, 16:41

      Tell me about it… I just wonder if we are going to be able to say the same thing next year with the new engines coming!

    • SteveR said on 20th February 2013, 16:56

      Umm Melkurion, the tires have changed from last year. Think that might have something to do with it?

      • D (@f190) said on 20th February 2013, 17:14

        Yeah that and the track after just one day of running will have more rubber than after a GP weekend ( before qualifying). A full day ( and a half before the fastest times were set) of very car driving round some doing 100’s of laps will put a lot more rubber down than three practice sessions.

  5. BasCB (@bascb) said on 20th February 2013, 16:15

    Given how little time he spent on track Kimi wasted none of it when he got out on track there!

  6. Aditya F. Yahya (@adityafakhri) said on 20th February 2013, 16:18

    why Kimi always had problem? *grunt
    and Romain’s day usually trouble-free *double grunt

  7. William Brierty said on 20th February 2013, 16:18

    Please help me someone, how on earth do testing times turn out quicker than a fully committed lap, in warmer conditions and with 4 races of R and D? In short, why was the fastest time of testing last year faster than Maldonado’s pole? And here’s another thing I don’t get, I know these are more aerodynamically developed cars, but surely that advantage is wiped out by the penalty of the new DRS restrictions. So why on earth is Perez ALREADY quicker than testing last year? Do they just use it everywhere in testing then? I have literally NEVER been this confused…

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 20th February 2013, 16:22

      Because the cars have been developed about 10 months further since that race William

    • nidzovski (@nidzovski) said on 20th February 2013, 16:29

      Maybe they were testing some illegal stuff last year and drop it before the season started.

    • JB (@) said on 20th February 2013, 16:42

      Tyres maybe??

    • mantresx (@mantresx) said on 20th February 2013, 16:46

      Well first of all this years tyres are quicker so you would probably have a 0.5 second difference on that alone, then there’s the conditions, it probably was windy, very hot, etc the day of the race last year and last but not least, cars are much quicker now remember the Williams didn’t even have a coanda exhaust last year, all those things easily make up for the 0.4-0.6 deficit of the new DRS rules so you can expect faster times this season.

    • Rules have stayed fairly constant which allows for easier development, and Pirelli have made each tire faster.

    • Nomore said on 20th February 2013, 17:52

      There are 3 main reason (also others) why this happen.

      1. +1 year of development, and in this days we know how much development is important. Red Bull, Ferrari, Mclaren have fought hard till the end of the season on development.
      2. According to Pirelli this year tyres will be at least 0.5 sec faster but will degrade more.
      3.It’s colder in tests compared to the race. And when it’s colder it’s much easier to get a faster lap.

      I think there are maybe other reason but i wouldn’t be surprised if the next week Red bUll, Ferrari and Mclaren could get easy a 1.20.xxx

      • Brace (@brace) said on 20th February 2013, 21:31

        3.It’s colder in tests compared to the race. And when it’s colder it’s much easier to get a faster lap.

        This is quite the opposite from the truth. Warmer track gives better grip, as long as tires or the track surface are not melting.

    • Lemon (@lemon) said on 20th February 2013, 17:59

      Its much cooler in testing in catalunya than it is in the race and as far as I’m aware the cold air makes the engines and the aerodynamics more efficient..

      • Density

        The density of air has significant effects on the airplane’s capability. As air becomes less dense, it reduces (1) power because the engine takes in less air, (2) thrust because the propeller is less efficient in thin air, and (3) lift because the thin air exerts less force on the airfoils.

        Effects of pressure on density
        Effects of temperature on density

        The effect of increasing the temperature of a substance is to decrease its density. Conversely, decreasing the temperature has the effect of increasing the density. Thus, the density of air varies inversely as the absolute temperature varies. This statement is true, only at a constant pressure.

    • mateuss (@mateuss) said on 20th February 2013, 18:52

      Cooler conditions give more downforce and more power. Conditions should be the reason, as the cars can not possibly become slower during season (if there is no ban on something important performance wise). And also qualy sessions are quite hectic compared to testing so that may play a role as well, but certainly it can mostly be explained by the change in conditions.

    • Ben (@scuderia29) said on 20th February 2013, 21:09

      remember that pole position times in Q3 are set with a lot of fuel in the car, a quicker time in testing set on the same track earlier in the year could have been set with just a few laps of fuel in the car. Pole position times in Q3 are rarely the fastest lap a car is capable of, they might do just one or 2 laps and they are brimmed with fuel.

  8. claudioff (@claudioff) said on 20th February 2013, 16:37

    One question: Are the teams free to use DSR wherever they want in the circuit during these testing or they are restricted to the same new qualifying rules?

    • First of all it’s DRS, and the answer is yes they can, in testing, use it however they like.
      However it makes no sense to do so because come Q1 in Melbourne they will have no representative times for the car.
      So it is better if they begin testing with the new rules in place and follow them if they want to understand the cars perfomance

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 20th February 2013, 18:01

      @claudioff At Jerez the teams had agreed to use DRS on the start/finish straight and the other long straight, and I believe they have a similar arrangement here.

  9. Adam9u234 said on 20th February 2013, 16:55

    We have no idea how much fuel a car finishes a stint with, so there are huge unknowns, but we can adjust the times for what we do know…

    Hamilton’s best time was done on the start of an 8 lap run, so adjusted for this would be very similar to Perez, who pitted straight after his time. Not mentioning the tyre compound difference either.

  10. DaveD (@daved) said on 20th February 2013, 16:57

    I wish we knew what tires everyone was running on for those times. They’ll never tell us the fuel levels, but at least we can observe the tires.

  11. Edz101 (@eddieb101) said on 20th February 2013, 16:59

    it is stupid to read anything into the lap times as each team was using undisclosed levels of fuel and they were all set on different tyres. Perez for instance set the fastest lap for the day BUT he did it on the soft tyre while Lewis set his on hard tyres which are a good second slower than the softs. Only at first practice in Melbourne will we be able to compare the teams properly…setting fastest laps here and there is nothing more than window dressing at this point!

    • D (@f190) said on 20th February 2013, 17:21

      eddieb, thats a good point. I was watching the live timing and Hamilton set his fastest lap on hard tyres at the start of a 10 lap run, which suggests quite a high fuel load. Both Mclaren and Redbull set theirs on softs and both on one or two lap runs. I guess both the Redbull and Mclaren had more than one lap of fuel in, but its still interesting to see the different programs. If it were the other way around ( redbull on hards at the start of a 10 lap run only 0.8 slower) I guess a lot would be jumping to conclusion of redbull domination ?

  12. Russell Gould (@russellgould) said on 21st February 2013, 0:00

    Hey, look! No ‘paydriver’ comments! Sweet!

Add your comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

All comments must abide by the comment policy. Comments may be moderated.
Want to post off-topic? Head to the forum.
See the FAQ for more information.