Two DRS zones for every track bar Monaco and Suzuka in 2013

2013 F1 season

Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, Circuit de Catalunya, 2013Almost every track on the F1 calendar this year will have two DRS zones, according to German magazine Auto Motor und Sport.

Monaco and Suzuka will be the only venues on this year’s calendar to have a single DRS zone.

As of this year, drivers are only allowed to use DRS in the designated zones at all times. The number of zones has been increased to ensure teams still exploit the benefit of having DRS, which is designed to facilitate overtaking.

The Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, which originally had two DRS zones but was cut back to one last year as it made overtaking too easy, will have two again.

The changes to the tracks are as follows:

Circuit 2012 DRS zone/s 2013 DRS zone/s
Albert Park Pit straight and second straight Pit straight and second straight
Sepang International Circuit Pit straight Pit straight and final straight
Shanghai International Circuit Longest straight Longest straight and pit straight
Bahrain International Circuit Pit straight Pit straight and straight to turn 11
Circuit de Catalunya Pit straight Pit straight and straight to turn ten
Monte-Carlo Pit straight Pit straight
Circuit Gilles Villeneuve Pit straight Pit straight and final straight
Silverstone Wellington straight Wellington straight and Hangar straight
Nurburgring* Straight before chicane Pit straight and straight before chicane
Hungaroring Pit straight Pit straight and second straight
Spa-Francorchamps Kemmel straight Kemmel straight and pit straight
Monza Pit straight and straight to Ascari Pit straight and straight to Ascari
Singapore Straight to turn seven Straight to turn seven and pit straight
Korean International Circuit Longest straight Longest straight and pit straight
Suzuka Pit straight Pit straight
Buddh International Circuit Pit straight and longest straight Pit straight and longest straight
Yas Marina Two longest straights Two longest straights
Circuit of the Americas Longest straight Longest straight and pit straight
Interlagos Reta Oposta straight Reta Oposta straight and pit straight

*Last used in 2011

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138 comments on Two DRS zones for every track bar Monaco and Suzuka in 2013

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  1. Candice said on 6th March 2013, 12:25

    car that lack straightline pace like Lotus will suffer

    • andae23 (@andae23) said on 6th March 2013, 12:28

      Why? The decision to enhance the number of DRS zones only affects teams that somehow gain an advantage from DRS, like Red Bull and Mercedes last year with their now outlawed double DRS systems.

      • Force Maikel (@force-maikel) said on 6th March 2013, 12:34

        I don’t think that’s 100% true. Some teams are still testing/using ‘legal’ passive versions of the DDRS.

        • andae23 (@andae23) said on 6th March 2013, 12:38

          @force-maikel You mean the system Lotus pioneered and was copied by Red Bull and Sauber in testing? This system has absolutely nothing to do with DRS (the name DDRS is very misleading). It does give them a straight-line advantage, but it doesn’t favor them when the number of DRS zones is increased.

          • Jeanrien (@jeanrien) said on 6th March 2013, 14:17

            @andae23 I would add that it gives them straight-line advantage if it’s not a DRS straight. In DRS zone, the wing is stalled and there is no need for the device (I still prefer that name over DDRS). So if the number of DRS zone increase, the interest for the device could drop …

            Not sure having 2 DRS zone at most track is a good idea, I feel we will have lots of “pass by overtaking” which is not what we want.

          • andae23 (@andae23) said on 6th March 2013, 14:37

            @jeanrien No: the DDRS (or DRD ‘device’) seen in testing stalls both the upper and lower element of the rear wing partially. DRS stalls only the upper element, but for its entirety. Not to mention that with a DRD the upper element still produces downforce and thus drag, which would be reduced by DRS. Also DRS works for all velocity ranges, in contrast to DRD which is activated at a high speed. So indeed with a DRD, DRS is less effective, but it still gives a significant reduction in aerodynamic drag.

          • Jeanrien (@jeanrien) said on 6th March 2013, 19:18

            @andae23 thanks for the details, haven’t thought about that. And my main point was that having more DRS zone lower the interest for DRD which is a shame according to me, always great to see teams develop new stuff like that.

        • Optimaximal (@optimaximal) said on 6th March 2013, 12:40

          They’re unrelated. The passive systems would operate using an airflow switch at various speeds to blow air onto the rear wing to stall it, but they’ve proven unreliable.

          The outlawed systems in particularly were the ones that were secondary functions of the DRS activation.

          • NickTheGeek (@nickthegeek) said on 6th March 2013, 19:43

            @jeanrien They need two because with only one teams would be tempted to gear the cars to hit the rev limiter under closed wing conditions meaning an open DRS would be worthless.

          • Jeanrien (@jeanrien) said on 6th March 2013, 22:21

            @nickthegeek Once again that depends how we see it, it would open the possibilities and the diversity between teams which is a good thing as F1 tend to have them doing all the same choices (or almost) …
            Furthermore, that would incitate teams to develop “the device” as they would gain more from it.

            But I understand that as far as I like F1 development and I find it necessary to keep F1 attractive, it goes again the tendancy for cost limitation and only big teams could afford to develop working “device” while DRS is a know entity for all.

            I’m not saying it’s bad though, I wait to see what it gives, I just hope it doesn’t make pass to easy. The tyre will probably already play a big part in that as the degradation is higher which mean the delta in speed between cars during a car would be higher in function of their tyres. So if you have 10 km/h difference from DRS + 10 from tyre, you can even wave your hand while passing another car.

            And again, I hope I’m wrong or at least that F1 will keep all his panache

  2. matt90 (@matt90) said on 6th March 2013, 12:28

    Why? Last year saw fantastic racing, and the best of it happened away from the DRS zones. Are they completely incapable of basing a decision upon the results of the previous year?

    • bertie (@bertie) said on 6th March 2013, 13:42

      They need to ensure people still investment time in developing DRS. If the gains were very small you may see cars not have it, similar to KERS.

      • Jeanrien (@jeanrien) said on 6th March 2013, 14:21

        @bertie So what ? Let’s the team chose if they develop DRS or not … At least that would make a bit of liberty in the decisions for teams.
        I rather have F1 with moderate DRS zone and great show (whatever with the decision of teams about developing it or not) than F1 with plenty of DRS zone, DRS system improved by the team (not even sure it will happens) and plenty of boring pass by overtaking with no show

        So do they need that ? Surely not

      • matt90 (@matt90) said on 6th March 2013, 16:13

        There is no development to DRS. It’s a flap. It took a few minutes to develop when it was first announced that teams would be allowed it, and hasn’t changed since then (other complex, and now banned systems aside).

      • jimscreechy (@) said on 7th March 2013, 6:11

        I think DRS was a quick fix to the regulations to allow overtaking. When Mclaren came out with the F-duct the FIA quickly made plans to outlaw it for the follwoing season in favour of their sanitised DRS version. Once again, intelligent design and innovation highjacked by the F1 judiciary. However, I have to admit it did solve the rather unpleasant problem of the inability to overtake a slower paced car… which I think is a good thing. However, I think this problem surfaced largely because of the restrictions placed on KERS which was always the sensible alternative to DRS and rather more genuinely *ie through technological development* provided a solution to the problem. I don’t necessarily think they should do away with DRS immediately, but I have always though it more sensible to just remove all the KERs restrictions and allow teams to simply gain maximum effects from it that they can. This compulsion to restrict everything is counterproductive… the engines KERS, two of the most important elements that flatline the teams into scraping for titbits with areodynamics which is hugely more expensive with far more marginal dividends. The ‘Arms Race’ we have at the moment is stiffling development.

  3. THOMF1S (@thomf1s) said on 6th March 2013, 12:29

    Isn’t it about time the whole DRS concept was dropped? The cars do not really need any assistance in overtaking any more

  4. melkurion (@melkurion) said on 6th March 2013, 12:31

    This feels a little gimmicky to me…. We restricted DRS in qualifyign, now we need to justify it’s cost, so lets go triggerhappy on appointing zones….

    I think this is WAY to optimistic, some tracks will benefit, others will not. By making these choices this early , they have ruled out the possibility of adjusting the DRS zones according to what we see on track. What if the first 2 races show that overtaking is actually doable, and that DS zones can be shorter because of it. Oh no wait, we made a descision in march to put TWO zones on this track, ah well… lets just make overtaking supereasy. Or hey . it’s way warmer than expected, trackconditions are different , but hey we already chose our zones in march, so let it go….

    My point is that this way you lose to much flexibility with the DRS zones, and that’s a shame

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 6th March 2013, 12:34

      @melkurion

      now we need to justify its cost

      This isn’t why they’ve increased the number of DRS zones this year.

      When DRS was introduced the rationale behind allowing free use of it in qualifying was that it would encourage teams to set their gear ratios long enough to get maximum benefit from it, therefore meaning they would get enough benefit from using it in the races.

      As that’s no longer the case (at the request of several drivers on safety grounds) they are increasing the number of DRS zones in the hope that it will still offer enough of an advantage for teams to gear their cars accordingly. See here:

      Webber: DRS rules change won’t reduce overtaking
      Two DRS zones per track necessary for 2013 – Lowe

      • melkurion (@melkurion) said on 6th March 2013, 12:48

        @keithcollantine

        True, but that’s the arguement I was trying to make, just more eloquently worded ;) They restricted it in qualifying, so now they need to show that it’s still worth doing.

        Wether that is from a cost perspective or from a set-up perspective is in my opinion (as they say in thailand) same, same , but different :)

  5. AceofSpades (@aceofspades) said on 6th March 2013, 12:33

    Maybe they’re just trying to make up for the relative loss in speed in qualifying because of the no-DRS-all-the-way rule?

    • wsrgo (@wsrgo) said on 6th March 2013, 12:39

      The FIA continues to ignore the views of the vast majority of F1 fans YET AGAIN….i feel insulted…

      • Optimaximal (@optimaximal) said on 6th March 2013, 12:42

        Have you written them a formal letter expressing your displeasure or do you just rant on internet forums about the problem?

      • unklegsif (@unklegsif) said on 6th March 2013, 13:00

        Brilliant!
        I am off to shout at a brick wall in a sound-proof room, about how nobody ever listens to me :-)

        G

      • W-K (@w-k) said on 6th March 2013, 13:56

        If the FIA et al have done a survey of people who do NOT watch F1 and those people say “It’s boring, no overtaking.” are the FIA wrong to try and introduce more overtaking.
        If this is the reason, then your only option is to become a retired F1 fan.

        • matt90 (@matt90) said on 6th March 2013, 17:30

          If they do a survey of people who don’t watch, and take their opinions too seriously, then all they’re doing is trying to attract a group fundamentaly less interested in the sport at the cost of actual fans becoming disheartened.

  6. Girts (@girts) said on 6th March 2013, 12:46

    It seems that motorsport’s rule makers are united in the belief that DRS is the way to go. Formula Renault 3.5 Series cars featured it already last year and DTM are planning to implement the adjustable wing this year. I’m not really happy about this trend but I understand that some of the races would be completely dull without it. So I’m ready to tolerate the DRS as long as races aren’t turned into predictable overtaking orgies.

  7. S2G-Unit (@s2g-unit) said on 6th March 2013, 12:57

    Fine…..2 zones…….but please REDUCE the length of the zones. Why can’t they understand that?

    On top of that you would think in 2013, they could have a system/GPS, whereby once the car using DRS pulls up along side it, the DRS is de-activated.

    • andae23 (@andae23) said on 6th March 2013, 13:08

      On top of that you would think in 2013, they could have a system/GPS, whereby once the car using DRS pulls up along side it, the DRS is de-activated.

      That’s actually not a bad idea, though I think it will require a complex system. Maybe in the DRS zones themselves you have sensors that tell which car is leading which car, and as soon as the overtaking car passes one of these lines earlier than his prey, his DRS is disabled.

      Continuing this speculation: what if the car that has been overtaken then gets DRS, and this will go back-and-forth until they reach the braking area. This could lead to some issues though: For instance, the first activation point must coincide with the detection point for this system to work, and I don’t know if this information can be processed fast enough.

      • vjanik said on 6th March 2013, 14:41

        i think S2G meant it as a joke. At least i hope.

        That would just be pure sacrilege. That would be like letting the FIA also remotely control the throttle and brakes. they would slow some cars down to increase overtaking. cool!

        we should drop this whole concept that overtaking is what we want. i think the definition of an exciting race is more complicated than that.

        In F1 if a part on the car doesnt bring you a benefit it goes off. period. Why are we changing the rules just for the sake of keeping it?

      • Sherlock said on 6th March 2013, 14:52

        I doubt pilots would like that DRS get’s closed outside their control (when magic-GPS finds out you are already passed) – now they can control it themselfes either by braking or by pressing button – it gives the control to pilot.

      • What if the DRS would only stay open for a set time, say 2-3 seconds? The car behind passes the activation point and gets it for the allotted time, to ensure that the DRS gets the cars alongside and the DRS should close once they are side by side.

        I prefer to keep DRS because we don’t get processional races but now it’s too easy to pass with it.

    • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 6th March 2013, 16:18

      Agreed. If the length of the zones is increased the number of dull, uninspiring overtakes will also increase. I understand why the rules have changed but that cannot be to the detriment of the racing, which I fear it may well be. If the DRS zone length remains constant between qualifying and the race though I fear to may very well do that.

  8. sumedh said on 6th March 2013, 13:03

    In Canada 2012, we had DRS on the straight after the hair pin, right? This straight is called “Final straight” or “Pit straight”?

  9. craig-o (@craig-o) said on 6th March 2013, 13:04

    Have people still failed to accept the fact that DRS is in F1? Have you forgotten why it was introduced in the first place? A car would get to about one second behind a slower car, and be held up due to the dirty air. The FIA then made a swap, front wings which can be used to increase downforce for rear wings which can be used to decrease downforce. Perfectly fine swap for me! No one can deny the racing over the last two years has been so much better than the 10 years previous. I tried watching some races from the mid-2000s a while back and they seem so dull compared to races of this era! F1 constantly changes, that’s a given. Don’t like it? Watch a different series.

    • craig-o (@craig-o) said on 6th March 2013, 13:06

      Meanwhile, back to the topic: two DRS zones at most tracks seems like the sensible idea really. Remember most tracks only have two decent-length straights for DRS to have much of an impact. Should make the racing a bit more interesting as well.

    • Mark Hitchcock (@mark-hitchcock) said on 6th March 2013, 13:16

      Wasn’t DRS supposed to be a stop-gap while the teams/rule-makers figured out a better way to reduce the dirty air?

    • UKF1rules said on 6th March 2013, 13:25

      i think last year it was the tyres and teams not knowing how to use them that created the great racing, and overtaking in NON DRS zones. DRS is fake racing, its not as good as push to pass in other series, because not everyone has the same system.

    • unklegsif (@unklegsif) said on 6th March 2013, 14:54

      There really is only so much mechanical grip that can be developed to hold the car to the track to such a level that affords it the performance to corner at the speeds we are used to. Aero is vital in the modern Formula, and cannot be replaced: its just an irony that its benefit is also its dissadvantage

      Can you imagine the furore that would be created amongst all the fans if the FIA said “right, races are boring, so we are going to change the Formula to make it more interesting… new tyres, reduced aero, smaller rear wings, stuff to inject some actual overtaking in the races etc…. to make things more exiting for the fans and increase overtaking”

      Oh, hang on….. havent they already done that
      And STILL people whine on-and-on-and-on……
      “The cars are ugly with the silly new wings”
      “These new tyres are making things fake”
      This DRS rubbish is rubbish”

      Well Said Craig-o

      G

      • q85 said on 6th March 2013, 16:21

        DRS was brought in so racers could close up the back of another car to enable them to have ago at overtaking.

        Not create a passing lane.

        They have removed the goal posts. and its totally unfair that a driver defending has no chance at all to defend. If DRS had been about in 2005 the imola race would not of been a classic as alonso would of pretty much just waved him past.

        DRS zones or wing allowence MUST be shorter to do what they were intended for. It was never intended to be an overtaking tool, but an aid to get the cars closer.

    • Mads (@mads) said on 6th March 2013, 16:54

      @craig-o

      Don’t like it? Watch a different series.

      I wouldn’t replace my girlfriend just because she suddenly caught the Bieber fever, but I would certainly not stay quiet about it either.
      So I will continue to complain about DRS and its abuse until it’s solved or down to a level where I can accept it.

    • GT_Racer said on 6th March 2013, 21:16

      Don’t like it? Watch a different series.

      Maybe people are turning off, Global TV figures were down last year & that included country’s where the TV broadcast situation had not changed.

      The US for example, Despite having a USGP the Tv figures nosedived & there was a lot of criticism about the ‘new’ f1 on the speed channel forums.

      In 2011 I would say that fan opinion was split relatively evenly on DRS, However through 2012 there was definitely a shift where it now seems the majority of F1 fans now dislike DRS & especially how its used.

      I know a few people who liked DRS initially but are now firmly against it because they feel like its now having far too big an impact.
      I’ve also seen a lot of criticism in Canada because DRS makes passing far too easy & none of the DRS-ing can actually be seen by any fans because there’s no grandstands down the straght & because of where the DRS zone is there is no longer any racing going on at the hairpin (Where most the fans are) because nobody wants to overtake into the hairpin because the DRS detection is on the exit.

  10. Good bye F1… I was so looking forward to the new 2013 season but now with this i feel the racing will become far too fake.

  11. Red Andy (@red-andy) said on 6th March 2013, 13:10

    There are still DRS zones in areas where they’re not needed, for example the endless straights at Shanghai and Yeongam. In those sorts of places DRS is more or less a “free pass” for the trailing driver.

    If we have to have this ridiculous joke of a system in place (rather than, say, doing something about the underlying reasons why F1 cars can’t overtake, such as masses of expensive and unnecessary aerodynamics) then at least the FIA could be sensible about where they put the DRS zones.

  12. Cyberaxiom (@dave-m) said on 6th March 2013, 13:16

    I’ve got no problem with two DRS zones in different parts of the circuit. But when they’re next to each other (e.g. at Sepang), why would anyone overtake in the first DRS zone when you know that you’ll be re-overtaken straight away in the DRS zone that immediately follows?

  13. UKF1rules said on 6th March 2013, 13:21

    what i dont like about drs…. teams with already high top speeds get the most gain from the system… ie mclaren and mercedes who often fly past the car infront at 15km/h faster. while teams like redbull with renault engines, the drs doesnt give anywhere near as much advantage, often not even near enough to have let the driver have a “dive down the inside” pass attempt. yes i know there are gearing and aerodynamic issues, but from the past 2 seasons, i have seen mclaren and mercedes drivers not have to worry about outbreaking cars while overtaking, because they are past halfway down the straight……. if the drs was made to only let the driver get close enough, and then still have to battle for the pass, then it would be a fair system. the worst thing when watching f1, with how competitive it is, is to see one car pass another half way down a straight, that does not liven up the show, it makes it more boring, as certain drivers are credited as being better overtakers then others because of nothing but a push of a button.

  14. Chris H (@wolfie9985) said on 6th March 2013, 13:21

    I fail to see how the pit straight at Singapore is even worthy of a DRS zone. Its not only too short, but the cars cant follow close enough through the last corner to even make use of it.

    I would also argue that the “pit straight” at Interlargos hardly needs DRS as it produces plenty of overtaking into turn 1 anyway.

    • q85 said on 6th March 2013, 16:30

      exactly one of the passes of the season was alonso onto massa and webber at turn 1. with DRS that would of been boring.

  15. BenH (@benh) said on 6th March 2013, 13:27

    No idea why there isnt a 2nd DRS zone at Suzuka, right before 130R. Would be pretty epic and would hopefully lead to more lunges into the chicane if it was just enough to give the car behind a bit of extra speed coming round there.

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