Tyres “punish” Red Bull for being best – Marko

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Helmut Marko, Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Sepang, 2013In the round-up: Helmut Marko says Red Bull have to run less downforce to make the current generation of tyres work.

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Helmut Marko Q&A: ‘Extreme’ tyres costing Red Bull (F1)

“The tyres have these problems – not us. Other teams witness these kinds of problems in different shapes, but it cannot be that you have a car that has the best downforce and you have to reduce it to make the tyres work to some extent. […] I always understood that the best and fastest should win – and not that the one who builds the best car is punished for it.”

Red Bull tyre woe ‘its own fault’ – Lotus (Autosport)

Eric Boullier: “They are fast on one lap but then struggle with tyre degradation, which is partially due to the way they designed the car.”

Here’s a relevant story from Pirelli’s return to F1 in 2011:

McLaren principal Martin Whitmarsh takes blame for uncompetitive car (The Guardian)

“Whitmarsh did not take the opportunity to dispel stories that the team may yet revert to last year’s car. ‘I can categorically kill it off ?σΤιΌΤΗ£ for the time being. We’re making progress. We’re working hard to understand this car, to improve and develop it and turn it into a race winning car.'”

F1 driver Susie Wolff says disabled grandad helped her achieve motor racing dream (Daily Record)

“Racing driver Susie Wolff has revealed the inspiration behind her bid to make the Formula One starting grid ?σΤιΌΤΗ£ her disabled grandad.”


Comment of the day

Aled Davies looks forward to today’s race:

Bianchi has been incredible so far. You have to take into account how much more time Chilton had in the car pre season compared to him!

Great lap by Vettel (he said through gritted teeth) thought Hamilton had done it at one point! Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if it had stayed Dry looked close between Raikkonen, the Red Bulls and Mercedes with Ferrari not far behind.

Rosberg been quicker all weekend than Hamilton. I’m sure I heard or read somewhere before that someone said he is susceptible to not being able to pull out the last few tenths when it really matters – could be a sign of that again here.

Ahould be a great race, Ferrari are usually lightening off the line, Alonso will be desperate to get ahead of Massa and Vettel always likes to lead from the front and control the pace. Behind all that you have Hamilton who will be desperate to get in there and fight with them!
Aled Davies (@Aledinho)

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95 comments on Tyres “punish” Red Bull for being best – Marko

  1. Giuseppe (@giuseppe) said on 24th March 2013, 1:50

    “We have the most downforce, but the tyres are punishing us”… more like “We put so much emphasis on downforce that we’re starting to have problems making our tyres last.”

  2. Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 24th March 2013, 2:37

    Can someone give me the stats on how many times Whitmarsh has taken “the blame” he’s starting to sound like a broken record.

  3. OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 24th March 2013, 2:46

    I’m a Red Bull fan but… silence Marko!!!!!!!!!

  4. uan (@uan) said on 24th March 2013, 3:02

    For those harping on Marko, remember it wasn’t too long ago that Ferrari was going on and on about how much aerodynamics (re: downforce) was dominating F1 – the more telling since Ferrari couldn’t figure out how to get a their wind tunnel to work.

    Marko is politicking to put pressure on F1A and Pirelli to change the tires. Nothing wrong with that and no different than other teams going on about stuff – 2 years ago it was off throttle engine mapping and Red Bull wasn’t happy and I remember Whitmarsh sort of arrogantly going on about how much RB was whining about the change etc. Then when it was actually implemented at Silverstone, the change hit McLaren harder than RB.

    Getting the RB9 to handle the tires well in race trim will be the development path Red Bull will need to go down. One shouldn’t forget how far off the pace Ferrari, and to a lesser extent, Red Bull were last year, and both improved tremendously throughout the year. 19 races and 9 months is a long long season and much can happen.

    Besides, last year everyone was moaning about the “unpredictable” tires through the first 7 or 8 races. I’d wait to see how things develop before reading too much into anything.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 24th March 2013, 3:32

      @uan – I think people are taking issue with the way Marko presents his argument, rather than the content of that argument. If you log onto any Formula 1-themed blog or forum on the internet, it’s not too difficult to find fans complaining about the tyres.

      However, Marko’s comments present the tyre issue as if is threatening to undermine the entire sport, and that drastic action is needed, and is needed soon. The problem is that his demands will naturally favour Red Bull, and so the implication is that what is good for Red Bull is good for Formula 1, even if bowing to his demands will disadvantage every other team as much as it gives Red Bull an advantage.

      And that is what I think people are unhappy with: the attitude of “we are the sport, and without us, the sport is nothing”.

  5. Irejag (@irejag) said on 24th March 2013, 3:44

    As far as I am concerned Pirelli should be striving to make Tires that actually have the ability to last an entire race. Then no one could complain, and if they do then we would know that it truly is their own fault. But I am tired of races being determined by tires, I want to see drivers beating drivers because of speed, not who passes who while they are in the pitts…

  6. Paolo Castro (@paoloandrecastro) said on 24th March 2013, 3:49

    I think he misunderstood the difference between fastest car and best car.

  7. joac21 (@joac21) said on 24th March 2013, 4:36

    Marko is not an engineer, me neither, bus as far as i know more downforce means less sliding. less sliding less tyre wear…

  8. GeeMac (@geemac) said on 24th March 2013, 5:00

    As soon as I see that Helmut Marko is in the news I close my internet browser…

  9. troutcor said on 24th March 2013, 5:49

    Marko’s comment summarize the current F1 perfectly: Aero is all that counts.
    F1 with no role for engines (as in “engineer”) is something of a hollow shell.
    The “best and fastest should win,” but engines matter not a whit.
    Are these cars or inverted airplanes?

  10. Dizzy said on 24th March 2013, 6:16

    I do agree with Marko to the extent that the tyres play far too big a role & are far too sensitive.

    Im getting seriously sick of these ridiculous tyres & the fact that there discussed constantly throughout a weekend.

    I’d much rather see tyres similar to what we had towards the end of weekend as they were not the talking point, Were not the biggest factor & drivers could actually push them fairly hard.

    When you have drivers in F1 driving well below the limit, You know something’s not right!

  11. Candice said on 24th March 2013, 6:38

    no more redbull domination please.

    • Roger2012 said on 24th March 2013, 7:32

      They only really dominated 1 season, That been 2011.

      In 2010/2012 they had to work hard to get to the championships as the competition was so close with Ferrari/McLaren.

      • Jason (@jason12) said on 24th March 2013, 7:40

        Redbull has been dominating the last three years…. They are still the benchmark even today (save for tyres).

        • Dizzy said on 24th March 2013, 12:44

          They haven’t though, If they had then the 2010/2012 championships wouldn’t have been so close.

          Yes they have won both titles 3 years running, But they only dominated 1 season, They had to work for the other 2 & had to come from behind last year.

  12. Jason (@jason12) said on 24th March 2013, 7:42

    If RBR tested properly during the winter instead of ‘sandbagging’, they would have been better prepared.

  13. Alex Brown (@splittimes) said on 24th March 2013, 8:00

    Helmut, let me tell you the best car is the one that crosses the line first. If you choose to build your car with the most downforce, or the least drag, or the longest gear ratios, and you don’t win, you’re dong something wrong.

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