Hamilton says Rosberg should have been on podium

2013 Malaysian Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, Sepang, 2013Lewis Hamilton said he felt his team mate should have been on the podium instead of him after the Malaysian Grand Prix.

Hamilton finished third with Nico Rosberg close behind him. But Rosberg repeatedly lobbied his team to be allowed to pass Hamilton, who was backing off to save fuel.

Hamilton was quick to pay tribute to his team mate on the podium after the race: “If I’m honest I really feel like Nico should be standing here, generally he had better pace than me throughout the race. But he’s a great team mate and did a fantastic job today.”

“I can’t say it’s the best feeling being up here but racing is racing and I really just got to keep looking forward,” he added.

Rosberg said Hamiltons’ words were “nice to hear” and added he didn’t feel like the team owes him payback for his obedience:

“I understand I drive for Mercedes, for you guys at home who put your life into building this car over the winter and doing such a fantastic job. I’m pleased to be able to do such a great result for the team.

“But of course there’s a small side of me where I want to go flat out all the way to the end and we up on the podium myself. But the time will come for that.”

Team principal Ross Brawn repeatedly denied Rosberg’s requests during the race to be allowed to race Hamilton. He said the team were holding position after dropping back from leaders Red Bull:

“I think we obviously lost the race around the last pit stops,” said Brawn. “The prime tyre didn’t work so well for us in the third stint of dry tyres. Having lost it initially it was a question of bringing the cars back in the safest form.”

Brawn added they have cut it fine on fuel with both cars: “We were tight on fuel, the pace was a lot stronger in the race than we anticipated and we were tight on fuel and we needed to make sure we didn’t overdo it. Once the opportunity was gone there was nothing to be gained.”

He said Rosberg understood Hamilton would be expected to do the same under similar circumstances: “It works both ways, the drivers know that. We discuss these things before the race. Of course he’s very competitive and he’ll be a bit frustrated but it works both ways.”

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  1. So many people in here lauding bad behavior, us-sportsmanlike conduct & blatant disrespect… it’s sickening & ridiculous. Here we have two drivers actually doing what their boss instructed being criticized & berated by some people, who simultaneously laud another driver for basically giving his team the middle finger, putting his own selfish agenda ahead of his entire team, even risking contact & a double DNF! And this is the guy you like? A guy being PAYED millions to do a job… not asked to do a favor, mind you, disobeying his bosses and risking his team & teammate’s results by acting out his own selfish play? Is Formula One not a team sport anymore?

    1. Any overtake has the chance to end in a DNF. And Mark Webber knows all about disobeying team orders, so why did people hail him for his actions then, but criticise his teammate now, in the same scenario?

  2. Please understand that Nico did in fact overtake Hamilton one 2-3 occasions along the back straight. However, any intelligent driver would instead wait to make a move along the front straight. As a result on each occasion Hamilton came by Rosberg.

    Seeing this, I think Ross Brawn has every reason to step in and put an end to the duel as it could have ended ugly for the team.

    Moral of the story – Rosberg was given the chance and license to overtake Hamilton but never could make a pass stick.

    1. I was thinking this also.

    2. @himmatsj

      Its a good point you make. I was wondering the same thing.

      Whatever the case, Nico proved to be a real team player..and most definitely accepted his role as a number 2.

  3. +1
    I guess we will never know the exact fuel loads, but I do wonder if they were fueled a bit differently and if so, why. Rosberg was quick right through the weekend, and may well have been in front of Lewis anyway had their cars been the same weight.
    Still, great to see Mercedes competing at the front.

    1. I dont think their fuel loads where different, i think Hamiltons pace was just quicker through the race, he was pushing the Redbulls, Rosberg wasnt, you could hear from his onboards that he was lift before braking zones quite early in the race.

      If you wanna drive that way thats fine, but if the team have a pre-arranged agreement that whoever is leading by x laps in the race gets to keep that position, then Rosberg cant blame anyone.

      It was Hamilton who pushed the Redbulls today, thats why we all watch isnt it? not to see drivers fuel save from lap 5 and coast around.

      1. Rosberg was consistently quicker than Hamilton the entire race. Hamilton benefited greatly by being pitted first in each stint. Hamilton may have pushed the Redbulls but Rosberg could have beat them if Mercedes had swapped the cars mid-race when it was clear Rosberg was the quicker car

        1. No he wasnt ‘consistently quicker’ than Hamilton the entire race

          “Hamilton benefited greatly by being pitted first in each stint.”

          Poor Rosberg that his new teammate out qualified him and was beating him in race conditions an therefore gets first pit stop shout…

          Rosberg was sat at around 5 seconds behind Lewis for the first 3rd, while Hamilton was right up on the Redbulls gearbox trying _make something happen_.

          1. At the end of lap 10 after the start, intermediates and change to slicks had all shook out Rosberg was 4.447 seconds behind Hamilton. By the end of lap 20 before the 2nd pitstops started he had cut that to 1.458 seconds.

            In order to gain 3 seconds you generally have to be faster which is why in from lap 10-20 nico was faster in 9 of them.

            Oh and for the record the closest Hamilton got to a Redbull gearbox over those laps was 2.5 seconds so he wasnt being held up

          2. “At the end of lap 10 after the start, intermediates and change to slicks had all shook out Rosberg was 4.447 seconds behind Hamilton”

            It was estimated Hamilton lost around 5-6 seconds after entering the Mclaren pit stop. So make that ~10 seconds on pace.

            “In order to gain 3 seconds you generally have to be faster which is why in from lap 10-20 nico was faster in 9 of them.”

            Yeah, you can be a fraction of a second quicker per lap when your sat seconds behind someone in clean air, trundling along. Ala Button-style.

          3. @N

            Hamilton’s pit lane time for his stop on lap 7 was 24.9 against Rosbergs of 22.1 so he lost 2.8 seconds all of which he gained back by having the benefit of changing onto slicks at the optimum time.

            Dont go listening to ted kravitz and his 5-6 second estimate

          4. It’s still 6+ seconds Hamilton was infront of Rosberg who was ‘consisently quicker the entire race’..

            It was not obvious at all ‘half way through the race’ that Rosberg was quicker, there was even a point about half way through the race where Hamilton had the pace to get the jump on Vettel..

            Rosberg couldnt even make his passes stick with Hamilton with just 10 laps to go in the race when he tried to pass him like 3 times, Hamilton still had the pace to re-take the positions on the pit-straight, it was only about 5 laps to go in the race where it became obvious that Hamiltons fuel was far too marginal to keep the pace, by which time Rosberg was never going to catch Webber.

          5. @N

            Well its not a 6+ gap on pace because over the first 3 laps Rosberg had to pass button and Massa and also started further down the grid. by the time he had passed those 2 he was already 3.2 seconds behind he then went faster than Hamilton on laps 4, 5, 6 and was going quicker on lap 7 when Hamilton was pitted for slicks. Even with his mistake the benefit of changing to slicks a lap earlier than Rosberg cancelled it out and he was even able to extend the gap such was the cost to Rosberg of doing an extra lap on intermediates

            To highlight the cost of that extra lap Rosberg did he set a 155.8 on lap 7 on intermediates, on lap 8 now on slicks Bianchi did a 1.51.5….Over 4 seconds quicker in a Marrusia. The other thing that highlights the cost of that lap is that before the stop for slicks Rosberg was over 10 seconds ahead of button and after less than 5, given that button stopped on the same lap as Hamilton the advantage gained is obvious to see.

            Finally in the 40 laps before the final pitstops after which Hamilton held Rosberg up the split of faster laptimes was 28-12 in Rosbergs favour

            As i said Rosberg was consistently faster and the laptimes prove it

  4. Team orders are allowed. Drivers have to accept it and spectators have to deal with it.

    That being said, we can see how the drivers handle those orders. We have Hamilton and Rosberg handling it like mature team players. On the other side is Webber and Vettel (with Red Bull) handling it unbecoming of 3 time Constructor and Driver champions.

  5. If Hamilton honestly thinks that Rosberg should be on the podium, then he should’ve slowed down to let him through…

  6. the thing is roseburg wanted to pass hamilton and chase the redbull pair. the team knew they had underfueled both cars.. so such a chase could have ended in grief for roseburg and team loosing valuable points by him not finshing the race somewhat. i think the team was right to demand he cools down.perfect sense from brawn.

  7. My problem with the Hamilton/Rosberg situation is not so much what happened over the final stint but more that the whole race was manufactured to keep Hamilton ahead of Rosberg and when you add up all the numbers Mercedes cost Rosberg a genuine shot at winning the race today.

    Let me explain

    After the start, intermediate period and change to slicks Rosberg was 4.4 seconds behind Hamilton at the end of lap 9(having lost 2 seconds to Hamilton during the change to slicks) Over the next stint he closed that gap to 1.4 seconds before Hamilton pitted again and Rosberg the next lap, despite a net gain on Hamilton of 3 tenths over the in/out laps Hamilton switch a lap earlier blew the gap out from 1.4 to 3.4 seconds between the Mercs such is the beneifit of new rubber.

    Again Over the next stint Rosberg closed the gap from 3.4 to less than a second when Mercedes again pitted Hamilton 1 lap before Rosberg. Again despite having in/out laps that balanced Rosberg emerged from the stops from less than a second behind Hamilton to once again over 3 seconds behind.

    Once again Rosberg slowly cut into that gap and by the time of the final stops was sitting on Hamiltons gearbox around 0.7 seconds behind however Mercedes again pitted Hamilton a lap before Rosberg. This time Rosberg was considerably quicker than Hamilton over the in/out laps and emerged in exactly the same position on Hamiltons tail. From here he was condemed to remain their despite looking considerably quicker.

    In essenece pitting Rosberg a lap later in every stint cost him around 8 seconds on the track, if we consider that Rosberg lost at least 6-8 seconds behind Hamilton in the final stint that’s 14-16 seconds Mercedes strategy cost Rosberg and given he was only 12 seconds behind Vettel at the finish he clearly had the speed today to win if allowed to unleash it. instead it seems Mercedes did what was needed to keep Hamilton happy.

    Now of course its never that simple, Hamilton had qualified ahead and had track position and so its understandable that he got the optimum time to stop over the first 2 stints but having closed up on Hamilton over the first 2 dry stints it was clear Rosberg had the edge and so Mercedes should have recognised and took advantage of this. Had Mercedes pitted Rosberg first during the 3rd pitstops he would have jumped Hamilton(possibly vettel) and been less that 4 seconds behind the bull(s) and been in position to attack during the 4th stops and mount a challenge for the race win.

    Cant say im surprised though, having followed mercedes over he last 4 years iv grown used to James Vowles being unable to adapt a strategy on the go.

    1. If you theory is correct. Why did he not pass vettel when vettel was behind hamilton?

      It is all good to speculate after the race but roberg passed hamilton more than once and each time Hamilton re-took the place.

      If he was that fast, Hamilton would never have re-taken the place. If he cannot pass hamilton and make it stick, how exactly did you expect him to pass the redbull?

      1. @John Well

        When the cars were running Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg between laps 33 and laps 38 Rosberg would have been unable to pass Vettel for 2 reason. One is that during those laps they came across 4 lapped cars which mixed things up a little and didnt quite work as favourably for Rosberg and secondly when he did have DRS behind Vettel invariably Vettel also had it behind Hamilton.

        Had Rosberg been able to get by Hamilton and chase the Redbulls i suspect DRS would have been enough to do the job.

        As for Rosbergs passes on Hamilton and then the re-passes well that is the crux of double DRS zones, i suspect and this is just my own theory is that when Rosberg made those moves the fight was already called off and that they were a message to the team that he was faster. It makes no sense to pass in the first DRS zone to inevitably get re-passed in the next. His lack of defence when Hamilton re-passed each time made it look to me like he was yielding more than being re-passed

        1. At the end of the day he didn’t have to ask for permission. If he could he should have done it on the track. The proof is he tried and couldn’t make it stick. Then wanted the team to tell Hamilton to let him pass.

          What most people are forgetting here is that Hamilton wasn’t slow, the team asked him to slow down to conserve fuel with the guaranty that Nico won’t attack him. Now how do you expect to then tell him to let Nico pass after that.

          For Nico to go and complain about that does not make any sense as both were told to conserve fuel. He has the first 40 laps to pass his teammate before the last stop. Same happened with Button and it ended without so much noise. How is this different?

        2. It makes no sense to pass in the first DRS zone to inevitably get re-passed in the next. His lack of defence when Hamilton re-passed each time made it look to me like he was yielding more than being re-passed

          @pantherjag Great job breaking down the competitive of Rosberg in these posts. It’s an interesting point you make about Rosberg yielding in the second DRS zones. I suspected the same thing when watching it. Perhaps Rosberg was just posturing to demonstrate that he could easily pass Hamilton in the DRS zones if he wanted to.

  8. As for Lewis’ pit-stop error, i think it did cost him 2nd place.

    (sidenote: would be triple LOL if the McLaren mechanics actually did have a memory trip as well forgetting he is no longer McLaren’s and help change his tires )

    1. Sidenote is funny but wouldn’t have happened due to the different livery. The team may also not have 100% known it was Hamilton at that point in time.

  9. Michael Brown (@)
    24th March 2013, 13:25

    I think Nico was justified in his complaining, as Di Resta was in Australia. Although Nico complained a little too much, it reeked of favouring Hamilton. Rosberg was forced to run at the pace of Hamilton, who was saving fuel and having to conserve the tires. If Rosberg passed Hamilton, it still would have been Mercedes 3rd and 4th, as with Red Bull who finished 1st and 2nd. And I think that’s the most important part.

  10. The bottom line for me people is that team principles are there to run the team. Just like coaches on a football field. If you do not obey what the coach says then you are no good for the team. F1 is a team sport even though there are on 2 drivers each driver is supported by 100 to 200 people. The team needs to take precedence over any ambition any driver should have. The team is what pays the driver to drive. That is what they are drivers, nothing more and nothing less.

    We need to understand this in the sport of F1 and not make out that the drivers are the ones that make the sport go round. The people that make the sport go round are the engineers, the team owners that invest millions of their hard earned money and the fans who pay good money enable the sport to happen. The drivers are merely 1 piece of the puzzle and they should know their place in the team…

    Well done Nico, you will get your day… Great drive and great team player. I believe that Mercedes are inline for the constructors this year purely because of their team ethic.

  11. Whether team orders are banned or not, they will always happen – just more or less obviously. I look fondly back on the memories of 03′ where BMW Williams allowed Montoya and R. Schumacher just to race until only one of them was a chance of winning the drivers’ championship.
    That said, it seems to be the assumption that Nico had significantly more fuel than Lewis; I’m not sure of that. Also, Nico did get past Lewis leading into the hairpin to go onto the main straight, only to be repassed under the second DRS zone immediately after. Strange tactical move by Nico to make the move there. If Nico had made that move stick, who is to say the team wouldn’t have done the same and told Lewis to hold 4th. Perhaps the team told Nico to give back the position, I didn’t hear any team radio on that though.
    Ultimately, I think Nico had chances to get past Hamilton and when he couldn’t make the move stick the team had to make a call at some point given the fuel situation and the fact RB were 10secs down the road, to get both cars to the end and secure the points. Rather than have both drivers fight it out to the end and risk running out of fuel, or not have enough to provide a sample at the end when the net result of points for the team could not have increased.

    1. This. Rosberg made 2 passes towards the end on Hamilton at the hairpin, but Hamilton would retake position along the front straight. So, they were given the license to race, but since Rosberg couldn’t make a pass stick, Ross Brawn decided to intervene and ask them to hold station to avoid and untoward incident.

  12. The team scored 27 points today, the most on a single weekend since the Silver Arrows returned to Formula One in 2010. So only in the second race Mercedes is doing better than the previous 3 years. I am sure Lewis and Nico will take Mercedes forward. Good job both of them.

    1. Well said, Iam sure Ross knows what Hes doing…

      The pair of them could of raced themselves into running out of fuel, an Ross is a master of the long game…Look at the possible mayhem in the RedBull camp when you get it wrong.

  13. Ben (@scuderia29)
    24th March 2013, 17:52

    Strange that Mercedes appear to have already picked their #1 driver so early in the season. So far Rosberg and Hamilton have been very close and should have let Rosberg overtake if he had the speed. But credit to rosberg for obeying the instructions unlike vettel.

  14. Well it’s easy. He should have just waved him past and then he would have been on the podium. I’m sick of this drivel and blunt lies that they are spewing.
    Do they really think people are that dumb or blind?

    You either let him through or you tell the press that podium belongs to you.

    Anything else is just a waste of breath.

  15. Hamilton is a bit harsh on hisself here. I mean: he was constantly putting pressure on the bulls by setting fastest laps but then he got caught by the tyres. He also splitted them so I think overall his pace was better than Nico’s. The team had to make a call after Nico failed to overtake and they did

    1. Shall I say “+1”? Is that still a thing? Anyway, Hamilton was being very gracious. He out qualified Nico and stayed ahead of him until the team told him to back off. Nico was not quicker “all day.” 27 pionts is mighty heap of loot for that team and Brawn was well within his rights to shut down any kind of passy passy stuff before it got ugly. Nico had no chance of running down the RBRs and form the team’s point of view it didnt matter which one came home first. Nico needs to think about out qualifying Hamilton if he wants the shoe to be on the other foot.

  16. I think that the whole team handled the situation very well. I am very proud of the entire team. The team agreed that the race between teammates end at the last pit stop. If Roseburg was faster than Hamilton, he should have passed on one of the pit stops–He stopped a lap after Hamilton on every pit stop, so he could have pulled off a fast lap to get ahead. Even when Hamilton lost precious time be entering the wrong pit and gave up a position to Red Bull, Roseburg didn’t get ahead. So obviously Hamilton was in fuel/car saving mode and the correct thing to do was to hold his place. I am happy with Ross Braun how he handled the situation. Roseburg needs more points for the WDC, but he doesn’t need to take points off Hamilton, he needs to take them off other teams. What would happen if he was allowed to pass and Hamilton then looses the championship by 1 point. The point could be made for the reverse but right Hamilton has been ahead so far this season and looks like a better bet to finish ahead. As Hamilton says, he needs to work harder to beat his teammate, Roseburg needs to do the same. I like the way Hamilton was magnanimous in his comments, and also Roseburg’s response. I see no reason for all the criticism here.

    1. I knew it!
      Those Roseburg and Braun must be the puppet masters who are pulling the strings from Stuttgart. I wish they’d leave Hamilton, Rosberg and Brawn to go on about their jobs in peace.

  17. Don’t feel sorry for Rosberg at all. When he had the chance he couldn’t make the pass, so when the end came and his teammate was in trouble he had to stay behind. If he completed the pass none of this would have happened.

  18. Good for Hamilton for his words! He is a great racer and a great sportman. Good for Rosberg also, another great soportsman and racer.

  19. I thought Hamilton and Rosberg handled a difficult situation with more tact than Brawn could muster, but everyone slagging off Ross, and then slagging Hammy and slagging Nico…come on, if you want a real situation to sink your teeth into, just look at the evil and reprehensible Vettel!

  20. Nico tried a couple of times to pass Lewis and failed.
    He never threatened the Redbulls like Lewis did. He was also out-qualified.
    Lewis is mad to say Nico deserved the podium more!

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