No changes to tyres until after Bahrain

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Giedo van der Garde, Caterham, Sepang, 2013In the round-up: Pirelli say they will not consider any changes to the 2013 tyre compounds until after the Bahrain Grand Prix.


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Pirelli: no tyre review before Bahrain GP (Autosport)

“As for wheel to wheel stuff… it is something we will have to review after four races. It is still very early days.”

The truth about Ferrari’s power (ESPN)

“On page 179, in the section about the Team Agreements it states that ‘in respect of Ferrari only, Ferrari may terminate if the regulatory safeguards agreed between the FIA and Ferrari do not allow Ferrari to veto any change to the regulations already announced or introduced (subject to certain exceptions).'”

Hanging in the balance (Sky)

“Whilst it’s surprising that the powerful simulation tools of McLaren did not pick up on the aerodynamic problem before the car actually ran, the team is running absolutely flat-out in the break before China to have heavily upgraded cars in Shanghai for Button and Sergio Perez. Don’t bet against a total transformation of form.”

Vettel and Massa make biggest gains so far (NBC)

“Massa?s bright start to 2013 is in marked contrast to his troubled 2012 campaign. This time last year he was yet to score ?ǣ twelve months on he is ahead of team mate Alonso in the championship.”


Comment of the day

Another view on the Official F1 Live Timing App from Knoxploration:

I paid for this app last year, and spent all year regretting that decision. It was absolutely riddled with bugs, many of which weren?t fixed after being reported to the developer.

It was, essentially, completely impossible to get through a full race without two crashes, and after each crash you have to adjust the time slip all over again to get it to match what?s on the TV.

The information shown is hopelessly inaccurate ? in particular, the track map is nonsensical, often showing things like cars driving backwards on track. Five seconds is an eternity in an F1 race; an app which updates so seldom and simply guesses what is happening in between (as this does) is effectively showing you a fictitious event.

And frankly, I compared it side-by-side with the Java app on and found the latter far more effective and accurate. The official app would frequently stop updating for 30-90 seconds, then suddenly playback at accelerated speed for the next 15-30 seconds until it had caught up.

Occasionally, it wouldn?t work at all. There were no such problems on the applet; these problems were specific to the app.

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And happy 50th birthday to former F1 racer Fabrizio Barbazza. He failed to qualify in 12 attempts for AGS in 1991, then returned with Minardi two years later.

Two sixth places at Donington and Imola were his peak before being replaced by Pierluigi Martini halfway through the year.

Two years later he was badly injured in a frightening crash at Road Atlanta in which his Ferrari 333SP sports car was T-boned and cut in half. He took a long time to recover from his injuries and did not return to racing after the accident:

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110 comments on No changes to tyres until after Bahrain

  1. Dizzy said on 2nd April 2013, 15:31

    The tyres SHOULD be changed, What we have now is completely ridiculous.

    Watching drivers cruising round at 80% running to a lap delta to save tyres just isn’t all that fun to me.

    Also watching a driver like Sutil at Melbourne put on a set of tyres that then falls off a cliff leaving him completely unable to do anything to try & defend his position after a great drive was one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever seen.

  2. bimo said on 2nd April 2013, 16:50

    Mclaren, Williams, RBR, they are just in silence mode..temporary benefiting the veto but waiting for Ferrari making another blunder using the veto. By then..they just gonna kill LDM for good and bring Ferrari under money negotiation table. Politic is cruel, and its just business.

  3. Joe Papp (@joepa) said on 2nd April 2013, 18:04

    That was a terrible crash when seen from the onboard. OMG>>>ugh.

  4. Michael Brown (@) said on 2nd April 2013, 22:05

    I like fast degrading tires, because they allow for more pit strategies especially now since refueling was banned (thank God).

    But all we ever hear now on the team radio feed is about taking care of the tires. Why can’t Pirelli develop a tire that will last a quarter of a race distance being pushed to its limits with none of this minimal operating temperature crap? At the moment, drivers aren’t pushing to their limits, they are driving to the tires’ limits. It really doesn’t matter how fast your car can go, because the tires determine your pace.

    Obviously that last part applies to all tires, but it’s way too prominent here.

  5. Irejag (@irejag) said on 2nd April 2013, 23:21

    The solution is simple. Make a tire (Tyre for you British) that can last an entire GP and bring back refueling.

    • Michael Brown (@) said on 3rd April 2013, 2:06

      Bringing back refueling means staying behind a car to save fuel to overtake during pit stops. Also, qualifying with race fuel was a ridiculous rule.

  6. Anele (@anele-mbethe) said on 3rd April 2013, 6:03

    My biggest problem with the tyres that they don’t promote wheel to wheel racing, rather drivers a being told to keep a 2 second gap to the car infront to avoid increases tyre wear. its all a bit ridiculous but the teams will have it figured out in no time

  7. Jon Sandor (@jonsan) said on 3rd April 2013, 16:35

    Setting aside the now much-discussed issue of the fragility of the Pirelli tyres, there is another issue which deserves some attention.

    Pirelli chooses the compounds to be used in blocks of four or five races, the first block this year being Australia to Bahrain. By the time a season is nearing its end Pirelli has amassed a great deal of data on which tyre compounds work best for which cars and drivers. This has the potential to make Pirelli kingmakers going into the last block of races of the season.

    Assume that going into the India GP we have driver A from team B and driver X from team Y tied or nearly tied on points. If Pirelli know, based on the previous races, that the soft compound tyres work better on A’s car and the harder compund tyres work better on X’s car, then whichever way they go in tyre selection in the final block of races they are gong to be giving a decided edge to either A or X.

    After the 2012 season ended Pirelli make come comments about their “conservative” tyre selection a the end of that season and how perhaps they might have gone with an “aggressive” selection instead. Regardless of which driver/team you support or whether you support any at all, it’s disturbing to realize how much influence the tyre supplier has on the final outcome. And how much intentional influence it can have if it chooses.

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