Mark Webber, Christian Horner, Red Bull, Valencia, 2011

Horner trashes Webber conspiracy theories

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Mark Webber, Christian Horner, Red Bull, Valencia, 2011In the round-up: Christian Horner dismisses conspiracy theories about Mark Webber as “complete rubbish”.


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Horner: Webber conspiracy claims ‘rubbish’ (The Telegraph)

“It’s complete rubbish, forget conspiracy. We’re all about trying to get two cars to the finish as high as we can. Anybody who thinks there is a conspiracy here against either driver does not know what they are looking at.”

F1 rookies set for extra Friday tyres (Autosport)

Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery: “It would be a compound that gives you as many laps as you need on the assumption that you run a rookie driver.”

Title race is wide open – Alonso (BBC)

“I don’t see anyone has a clear advantage. Maybe Red Bull was very dominant in Australia in all free practices; in qualifying and the race they were suffering a little bit of [tyre] degradation but definitely very fast. In Malaysia, they were maybe a little bit more in the groove but here they were similar to the others so let’s wait and see what the updates of every car brings to the pace, and we will see how luck plays.”

Free F1 Sky boxes would drive subscriptions says Bernie Ecclestone (Daily Express)

“In response to criticism from fans, Ecclestone says he advised Sky to consider distributing dedicated F1 set-top boxes as it could not only boost race figures, but demand for other Sky services too.”

Graphene in F1 (F1 Elvis)

“In Formula One terms it?s the kind of thing that designers have dreams about, although having spoken to the drawing office at a leading team on the subject, whilst they?re not yet looking at it in serious terms, it?s certainly on the radar and one day, someone will take the lead like McLaren did in 1981.”


Comment of the day

No prizes for guessing what the two big talking points were after yesterday’s race:

1) The tyres. I’ve never criticised them in the past but this was too much. My criticism is mostly directed at F1 though not Pirelli, because they?re only doing what they were asked to do.

2) Pathetic DRS. Really one of the worst implementations of DRS ever. In China overtaking was not too hard even without the DRS so to give them two big zones is a joke. For next year only the pit-straight one should remain.

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Jim Clark continued his domination of the Grand Prix scene by winning the non-championship race on the Pau street circuit in France 50 years ago today.

Team mate Trevor Taylor was second ahead of Heinz Schiller in a Porsche.

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  1. Bernie makes a lot of sense here: I’ve gathered that there are many British fans on here who don’t care about other sports and can’t afford the subscription to Sky Sports, so it would make sense to offer SkyF1 as a single subscription for a reduced fee – it would attract many other subscribers I imagine.

  2. Redbull is a world wide brand and this cant be doing the brand any favours and Webber’s job has already gone for next season and Christian Horner must now be worrying about his own job all because a greedy little German thinks he can do what he likes, when will the Germans ever learn ?.

  3. It looks like most of you don’t support the conspiracy theory. So, please explain to me what exactly is Helmut Marko’s role at RBR? Why do they need him so close to the team? Arent’ Horner and Newey very capable people? Does anyone really doubt who is the favorite driver of Marko and Dietrich Mateschitz?

    1. @svianna

      So, please explain to me what exactly is Helmut Marko’s role at RBR?

      Head of the young driver program.

      Does anyone really doubt who is the favorite driver of Marko and Dietrich Mateschitz?

      That is an irrelevant point- favouritism (clearly based on driver perfornce) =/= reason for sabotage.

      1. Well, if you really believe that HM has no direct involvement with the RBR F1 team inner dealings, we can not converge and it is helpless to attempt to dialogue. For those who, like me, question what HM’s role really is, and suspect that he is there to make sure that Mateschitz’s wishes come through, there are a lot of unanswered questions. The thing about conspiracy theories is the fact that SOME of them are true.

        As I mentioned earlier, people try to use common-man logic and apply to a guy that has so much much money (Mateschitz) that he banks not one, but TWO F1 teams. For four years now, it is clear that Vettel has been destined to be the focal point of RBR F1 team. MW should have accepted that a long time ago.

        1. @svianna – You raised the point that Marko and Mateschitz favour one driver, and used that as a springboard to suggest that the conspiracy theories might be true. That’s why I pointed out that just because the favouritism you suggested goes on, doesn’t mean anything sinister is going on. Or is every team that favours one driver sabotaging the other?

          You also claim that Vettel was “destined to be the focal point” of the team, but that is only because Vettel came into the team in 2009 and beat Webber (who had been with the team since 2007), having also beaten him before even getting to RBR.

  4. At the 2009 Hungarian Grands Prix, Renault were fined for releasing Fernando Alonso’s car from the pits with a loose rear wheel. The rules state that a team must have their driver stop on track as soon as possible and not attempt to return to the pits, if a team knowlingly continue with a loose wheel they are in effect breaking the rules. Renault were found guilty of this four years ago and rightly so.
    For Red Bull to deliberately not fit Webber’s rear wheel properly in order to scupper his race is pure lunacy, and I don’t believe any team would do this. We all remember what happened to poor Henry Surtees at Brands Hatch, which is a classic example of what a loose wheel can do if struck at high speed.
    Many people claim that Mark Webber’s race was sabotaged by the team for what happened in Sepang. No one mentions Red Bull’s curious decision to not put soft tyres on Vettel’s car earlier, instead of four laps from the end. This to me appeared more of a stitch up than short fuelling Webber’s car or not fitting a wheel properly.

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