MPs repeat call for Bahrain Grand Prix cancellation

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Start, Bahrain, 2012In the round-up: Britain’s All-Party Parliamentary Group for Democracy in Bahrain calls for the cancellation of the Bahrain Grand Prix.

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MPs call for Bahrain GP cancellation (BBC)

“Last year’s race was held under conditions of martial law. Three hundred protesters were arrested, some spending months in jail.”

Ecclestone willing to meet Bahrain opposition (Reuters)

“I wish they could sort things out. If there are any problems, which there are obviously – people are not making trouble if there are no problems – then they could get it sorted out.”

Bahrain protests precede Formula One race (Al Jazeera)

“There has been a week of protests in the kingdom ahead of the country’s Formula One Grand Prix from April 19 to 21.”

Perceptions and realities in Bahrain (Joe Saward)

“Bernie Ecclestone and Jean Todt, the men who make the decisions about F1 being in Bahrain, do not want to be involved in Bahraini politics. They don?t want to have to deal with the perceptions that exist that F1 is somehow supporting the government and condoning the violence.”

Ecclestone threatens Brazilian GP shift (Sina English)

“The design of the circuit is among the best in the world but the facilities for the teams and fans are the worst on the calendar.”

F1 needs rookie rethink – Sauber (Autosport)

Monisha Kaltenborn: “I am not trying to justify [Esteban Gutierrez's crash], but to not have any Friday sessions to practice in, and then come in to a world of F1 where there is a lot of pressure because there are only a limited amount of opportunities to score points, is very hard.”

Paul Hembery on the 2013 Chinese Grand Prix (F1 Fanatic via YouTube)

Perfect prediction (Sky)

Mark Hughes: “The crucial moment of understanding for Alonso came in Friday afternoon practice as he did his qualifying simulation on the very delicate soft option tyre.”

Chinese Fireworks (ESPN)

“This was a weird moment down at Red Bull on Saturday morning. I captured it as a mechanic sprayed an extinguisher on to the exhaust and engine cover, but I couldn’t see if there had actually been a fire.”

Why Sir Stirling Moss is wrong about women and motor racing (The Guardian)

“[GT4 racer Zoe] Wenham believes she can compete on an equal footing with men. ‘It’s really good to be in the helmet and the car. You’re all equal at that point ?ǣ there’s no long hair or big blue eyes coming into play,’ she says. ‘There’s always going to be these comments, ‘Oh, you were beaten by that girl,’ but there are more women in motor racing than ever. So hopefully someone can prove Sir Stirling wrong.'”

Crumpet-gate (The Buxton Blog)

“While I have the utmost respect for Sir Stirling Moss and all that he has achieved, his opinions on the suitability of women to drive Formula 1 cars in the modern era is really rather inconsequential.”

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Are the tyre complaints just history repeating?

We were faced with the same problem last year: the teams complained bitterly about the tyres. And yet, by the middle of the season, they understood the tyres so well that the complaints simply melted away.

Did anybody protest the tyres after the German Grand Prix? I can?t recall a single complaint, much less a chorus of them. Even the drivers who were the most critical ?ǣ Mark Webber and Michael Schumacher ?ǣ quietened down before long. The tyres worked in 2012 once the teams and drivers understood them; it was just a matter of figuring them out.

I think we need to take the teams? complaints with a grain of salt as they will always lobby for what is best for them. Are they really struggling as much as they are making out, or are they just trying to get out of doing some work and maybe pick up an advantage along the way?
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68 comments on MPs repeat call for Bahrain Grand Prix cancellation

  1. James (@jamesf1) said on 17th April 2013, 0:06

    I wonder what Fernando and Mark spoke about…

  2. electrolite (@electrolite) said on 17th April 2013, 0:24

    Are they really struggling as much as they are making out, or are they just trying to get out of doing some work and maybe pick up an advantage along the way?

    Exactly. If Pirelli changes the tyres and suddenly made them conservative now, then that would be unfair.

  3. matt90 (@matt90) said on 17th April 2013, 0:32

    Well done MPs, making protests a few days before the event, when there is no chance of it having the tinniest impact. Well worth your salary as per usual.

  4. Aimal (@aimalkhan) said on 17th April 2013, 1:01

    Dear MPs, a better way to support the people of bahrain would be to stop supporting oppressive regimes in the first place.

    • A46 said on 17th April 2013, 4:21

      and an even better way is to stop harassing and bullying the bahraini people by protesting thugs and forcing their agenda when the majority in bahrain disagree , this is a sport and it shouldn’t be mixed with politics ! when countries with no democracy and regimes based on full dictatorial oppression are allowed to compete in other sports no one says a word !! “iran,north korea, etc.. “

      • Daniel (@collettdumbletonhall) said on 17th April 2013, 17:10

        I don’t think there’s anything wrong with these people protesting especially when Bahrain has a porr record of torture since 2010.
        Sport and politics are heavily intertwined and to just say they shouldn’t mix is an incredibly simplistic view, at least in my view anyway.

  5. Umar Majid (@um1234) said on 17th April 2013, 1:04

    the bahrain protests are only on the news on an f1 weekend. gives bahrain a bad name and formula 1 too.

  6. I don’t know what Moss said that was so wrong. I agree with Moss. He said that there were talented girls back in his day and there are some skilled girls these days. Moss questioned if women and in particular current drivers have the guts to be ruthless and aggressive like other drivers. At the moment there isn’t a major champion that is a woman anywhere else, so he is right to question that. I hope that Moss hopes too that someday we will have a talented women worthy enough to drive in F1. Maybe someday we will have more women than men on the grid in the end women have arguably one physiological advantage, body mass ratio.

  7. Abdurahman (@) said on 17th April 2013, 2:34

    Maybe woman are better at some things and men are better at others. What the heck is wrong with that? It’s this ridiculous notion that if a woman can’t do everything a man can do than she’s not equal. Why can’t men and woman be different yet equal? It’s in your head is all.

  8. MartyF1 said on 17th April 2013, 2:48

    The photo was taken just before Mark’s dinner came out cold and half eaten by Seb in the kitchen. Then his fork exploded, his chair collapsed and he was fined for damaging restaurant property.

  9. A46 said on 17th April 2013, 4:16

    please stop these lies, i have just come back from bahrain and everything is more than perfect concerts going on every week , night clubs partying, and people going to their work like normal this is all a bunch of propaganda aiming at increasing the news agency’s popularity !! cheers

    • William (@william) said on 17th April 2013, 10:07

      It is great to hear from a person who went to Bahrain that there is nothing going on in Bahrain despite the media going overboard with these protests. So Bernie was right? It’s seems that he is right that it will go trouble free

  10. BasCB (@bascb) said on 17th April 2013, 6:26

    Not perfectly sure it would work, but I like the idea of having an extra set of tyres ready for any team that chooses to give a talent, or a local driver a shot at some F1 experience in FP1.

  11. BasCB (@bascb) said on 17th April 2013, 6:58

    I admit I had not been aware of Winham in GT4, but when you really have a look at female racing drivers active, I would say it shows that there certainly is talent do draw from. Made me wonder about Buemi’s niece, did she ever recover from that shunt that had her break here legs to race again?

    • thatscienceguy said on 17th April 2013, 9:57

      Buemi’s cousin, not neice. He’s not that old nor is she that young.

      Natacha Gachnang. Yeah she drove later that season, has done some stuff since and this year is driving in the World Endurance Championship.

  12. andae23 (@andae23) said on 17th April 2013, 7:02

    I really start to get the idea Lauda and Hunt were not the rivals Rush claims them to be: Hunt cheering on Lauda in that video (“come on, Niki!”) and photos like these. I haven’t fully read up on the 1976 story, so I’m not sure about any of this: is there anyone who knows more about this?

  13. JCost (@jcost) said on 17th April 2013, 7:28

    In the end, Bahrain GP only serves the cause of those dissatisfied with monarchs. Somehow, it’s the best stage to make their voice eared despite efforts from race organizers and Bernie, by this time of the year the world is remembered that Bahraini monarchy is anything but inclusive.

    Monarchy wants to use the race to showcase their country but protests, even minor, overshadow their PR arsenal because it’s the nature of media: blood and scream sells more than milk and smile. Bernie wants his 40 millions but he’s just putting the sport in a not so glamorous spot and making it vulnerable to criticism.

    Nobody but the protesters is getting good publicity from this and somehow, it feels like poetic justice.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 17th April 2013, 9:28

      @jcost

      Nobody but the protesters is getting good publicity from this and somehow, it feels like poetic justice.

      The protesters make a noise for the four days of the year that Formula 1 is in Bahrain, but what about during the other three hundred and sixty-one days?

      I must admit, I haven’t really heard anything about the protests since last year’s race. There’s obviously some kind of movement in Bahrain at the moment, but for the most part, the government won.

      So I have to wonder if the protesters are out for serious reforms this time around, or if they’re just trying to be disruptive.

      • JCost (@jcost) said on 17th April 2013, 11:10

        @prisoner-monkeys

        I’m don’t think they do that to kill time. They have an agenda, like it or not, and they are smart enough to understand that when Formula 1 is in town, it’s time to show up with their most flamboyant shoes because the world is watching and eventually their counterpart will feel the pressure.

        If I had demands to make, I’d do the same.

        • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 17th April 2013, 11:18

          @jcost

          They have an agenda, like it or not, and they are smart enough to understand that when Formula 1 is in town, it’s time to show up with their most flamboyant shoes because the world is watching and eventually their counterpart will feel the pressure.

          If I had demands to make, I’d do the same.

          It’s a problem if this is the only time they are showing up, though. Students threatened to crash the Canadian Grand Prix last year as a form of protect against the Quebecois government making changes to university funding and tuition fees. They, too, had an agenda. And they understood that the Grand Prix was the time and the place to raise hell because the world was watching. But they were largely seen as a public nuisance, and while some of them might have had a legitimate greivance, the situation was mostly characterised as a first-world problem.

          Showing up doesn’t automatically make the protesters in Bahrain right. Especially if they are only doing it for the publicity.

        • Michael Brown (@) said on 17th April 2013, 11:49

          Agreed. In Montreal last year students who were unhappy with some government decisions protested at the race and metro, but in the end hardly made an impact because the media barely noticed. Probably because nobody was being killed or anything like that.

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 17th April 2013, 22:40

        really @prisoner-monkeys ?

        The protesters make a noise for the four days of the year that Formula 1 is in Bahrain, but what about during the other three hundred and sixty-one days?

        I must admit, I haven’t really heard anything about the protests since last year’s race. There’s obviously some kind of movement in Bahrain at the moment, but for the most part, the government won.

        That you haven’t bothered to look for any news, or that there was far less interest from media apart from when F1 hits town, does certainly not mean everything has in fact been silent and calm before.
        Sure, its nothing like 2010, and there are some bids for really getting talks to start (but that has never gotten off the ground yet, mostly because of distrust and both sides hardliners frustrating it), but protests have never really stopped. Certainly there is also an element of people wanting to use the race to boost their cause (on both sides), but pre-emptively taking people in custody because you think they might want to protest (and doing so without any kind of legal process) is not something that should happen in an ideal state either.

  14. dragoll (@dragoll) said on 17th April 2013, 7:57

    @Prisoner-Monkeys congrats on COTD.

    I however disagree with your comment in the respect that you’re comparing a set of tyres that lasted no more than 7 laps in a race, this was unprecedented.

    Last year, I admit, I jumped too soon on criticising the tyres, however, I don’t think that having tyres last a max of 7 laps is a good thing for the sport. Take into consideration that everyone was conserving those tyres and didn’t thrash them, so in essence you are really talking about a tyre that could last 3-4 laps at 100% pace.

    If we’re talking about 15 Laps, then that isn’t too extraordinary, but 7 laps, that’s no good.

    • phildick (@phildick) said on 17th April 2013, 9:07

      I agree with you that the tyres which last just a few laps are generally useless but for qualifying. But in my opinion it’s not that the tyres were bad, but the tyre allocation was simply misjudged this time and that’s all that happened.
      I think it’s not really that easy to hit the spot with the tyre compound choice, especially at the beginning of a season. Please remember that last year the allocation was criticised a few times for being too conservative.
      I like the fact that Pirelli & F1 responded quickly and reasonably, and the allocation for Bahrain was changed.

    • Dom (@3dom) said on 17th April 2013, 10:54

      @dragoll & @phildick

      It’s always gonna be difficult to get tyres to last as long on every circuit, they will behave better on others.

      “Soft and medium” was the right combination in china, coz “medium and hard” compounds would have meant a one stop race. At least we had some split strategy, and several pit stops to help make the race more interesting.

      As others have said, the teams will also make them last longer as they understand them better. Perhaps Pirelli expected them to understand them better by this stage.

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 17th April 2013, 15:11

      @dragoll, watching Vettels last stint showed that at 100% the soft tyres lost a couple of seconds performance every lap, having come out 11 seconds behind a slowing LH, he gained 5 seconds in his 1st.lap but failed to catch LH in the next 3 final laps.

  15. John H (@john-h) said on 17th April 2013, 9:41

    No matter what your opinion with thw tyres, you have to applaud Paul Hembery for how much you see him publicly and explaining why certain decisions are made. Ok, I don’t agree with him most of the time, but good on him!

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