Rate the race: 2013 Bahrain Grand Prix

2013 Bahrain Grand Prix

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  1. 8/10 It was a very good race. Almost everyone was fighting with their claws out, throughout its entirety and unlike China there was no DRS or tyre silliness which left a sour aftertaste with each overtake. If Vettel was in the battles too, it would be a 9/10.

    • Victor. (@victor) said on 21st April 2013, 14:49

      DRS was just as bad as in China, especially with the headwind… Alonso has shown that you can race without DRS. The first two laps were pure brilliance – afterwards Rosberg just got passed right, left and centre.

      Great racing between Button and Perez, great drives by Vettel, Alonso and Di Resta.

    • Blackmamba (@blackmamba) said on 21st April 2013, 14:50

      In terms of actual racing this was the best race of the year so far. 8/10.
      And people say Bahrain is boring.

    • Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 21st April 2013, 15:00

      @driftin disagree. DRS, while it didn’t ruin the race as much as in China, didn’t help.

      When DRS was first used, people had to wait until lap 2 to make their moves. Now they cannot even wait, they get alongside rather easily and they fight. Then DRS is enabled and everything goes to the trash: people pass each other midway through the straights. I mean, Alonso had a 20 km/h advantage over Rosberg when he managed to get past him in the early stages of the race. That’s not a benefit, that’s not “helping” overtakes… that’s like taking a tyre of Rosberg’s car and force him to defend.

      Thanksfully Lewis and Mark’s tyres were so bad at the end of the race that we got to see one of the greatest fights I’ve seen.

      I give it 6/10. And pleeeeeeeeease FIA, let’s try with a DRS-free race!

    • DC (@dujedcv) said on 21st April 2013, 15:03

      8/10 – withe these tyres each race should be 5 laps longer and use no DRS. The only other thing bad today was the race winner. I am really getting tired with his woo-hoo after winning without breaking a sweat.

    • ramy (@ramysennaf1) said on 21st April 2013, 15:07

      when i say that vettel is the luckiest driver ever seen in single seated racing cars, i mean what i say, and that was proved today when all his rivals just have problems of whatsoever for him to finish the race without being chased and passed by!!!!! how can anyone disclose of this fact just tell me!!!!! the race is a 5/10 because of that fact, a race isn’t great until we see 3 drivers fighting for first and not SECOND place, come on!!!!

      • @ramysennaf1 – well just tell Ferrari to make their DRS properly and Kimi to qualify better. Don’t blame Vettel.

        • ramy (@ramysennaf1) said on 21st April 2013, 15:18

          the problem is mate, vettel has the fastest car by far and it showed when he past easily rosberg and others i think at the beginning, i don’t how this redbull gathers time and pace above all rivals !!!!!!! i want someone to explain how can this happen, gaining time lap after lap while others struggle to build on their posiition

          • @ramysennaf1

            vettel has the fastest car by far

            No he doesn’t, hence why Webber in an identical RB9 was nowhere in the race. Vettel simply managed to get the lead quickly and manage the race from there, that’s why he finished so far ahead.

          • matt90 (@matt90) said on 21st April 2013, 15:24

            If passing Rosberg early in today’s race was a mark of having the fastest car, then half the grid were in the fastest car.

            I think we could have seen Alonso challenge today had he not had problems. As it was, Vettel was lucky to see Alonso falter. Lotus really should have qualified better though.

          • ramy (@ramysennaf1) said on 21st April 2013, 15:25

            mate he got past rosberg and alonso at the start and then he build on his lead with half a second every lap after he lead, how can a driver do that if he hasn’t a speed advantage over the rivals!!! explain!!!!huh?!!!

          • Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 21st April 2013, 15:25

            @ramysennaf1 he battled hard with Rosberg and Alonso at the beginning to get to the lead. It’s always been like that, the leader, on clean air, gets a lot of benefits. But he’s the leader, afterall.

            He can manage the tyres as he wants it, as he wasn’t battling anyone. Don’t blame Vettel for doing the right things when it matters. It’s been like this since Fangio, mate.

          • tmekt (@tmekt) said on 21st April 2013, 15:25

            @ramysennaf1

            the problem is mate, vettel has the fastest car by far

            Excuse me, but how is that a “problem”?

            It’s not like there’s a lottery in the start of the season about who has the best car and Vettel’s car just magically happens to win that every time. It happens because their team does the best job, it’s got nothing to do with luck of any kind.

          • Alex (@korbendallas) said on 21st April 2013, 15:29

            Vettel hardly has the fastest car “by far”. He’s an extremely talented driver with a front-running car, just like Alonso, Raikkonnen and Hamilton. Pretending he is driving a car like the RB7, or that he’s just lucky, does nothing to diminish his obvious talent.

            Today was Alonso’s first major car failure for at least a year and a half, and all it meant was that he couldn’t use DRS. When Vettel and Hamilton’s cars failed last year they each had multiple retirements. I think if anyone’s the lucky one, it’s Alonso and Raikkonnen – or rather, it’s that Ferrari and Lotus have built them and their team mates extremely fast, reliable cars.

          • ramy (@ramysennaf1) said on 21st April 2013, 15:31

            just notice the redbull compared to other cars when exiting a corner, u can feel it has more power exiting the corner while shifting gears, it’s a small thing, but it’s an important thing making u gain a tenth or a two tenth on the driver behind, same thing with webber, the redbull car has more power exiting corners, i’ve noticed that in sector 2 where there are so many corners

          • Colossal Squid (@colossal-squid) said on 21st April 2013, 15:41

            Vettel’s win was built on the back of his battling with and passing of Rosberg and Alonso in the early laps. What you’re complaining about is the simple fact that Vettel worked for his win and drove a superb race. Same as Alonso in China.
            If you don’t like seeing talented drivers put in performances like his may I suggest watching a different sport?

          • clmdwn222 said on 21st April 2013, 17:48

            @fer-no65, @colossal-squid, @matt90, @tmekt +1
            Sebastian and team did a perfect job today just admit it.

          • @ramysennaf1

            how can a driver do that if he hasn’t a speed advantage over the rivals!!!

            Oh so I assume you treat every winning driver the same then, since you obviously can’t win unless the car’s much faster?

            Besides that, Alonso held everyone up after his DRS jammed open, that’s why Vettel streaked off initially. How he maintained that though was primarily due to skill – the car was no faster than the Lotus or the Ferrari.

      • John H (@john-h) said on 21st April 2013, 15:47

        Sorry to break it to you, but it’s not luck if Ferrari can’t design their DRS properly.

        And with regards Vettel, I’m no fan of his but he was superb today, especially in comparison to Webber.

        • David-A (@david-a) said on 21st April 2013, 16:24

          +1 @john-h

          @ramysennaf1

          when i say that vettel is the luckiest driver ever seen in single seated racing cars

          Oh, just stop, you sound like a child. Running away with a victory, built on having the fastest race pace of anyone doesn’t make someone the luckiest driver ever seen. Unless you have the word luck mixed up with skill.

          • Solo (@solo) said on 21st April 2013, 20:20

            I think all of you people are wrong. One is just so keen on diminishing Vettel and the others all to keen to show how the respect a 3 times champion and all that and how they are of similar of opinion of the metriopathic views of the owner of this site and are sick of Vettel not getting praised.
            The truth is Vettel raced just fine and did everything he was suppose to do so yeah he did great and he is one of the best drivers but also no his first lap overtakes weren’t some big miracle ether. That doesn’t mean his car is better than him but it was obvious that he was carrying amazingly more speed that the others. They looked like GP2 cars. I’t’s something the Red Bull car seems to especially show a lot in the first 2-3 laps of a race. Maybe they have some tactic that Keeps the tires warmer when they start the race or something, i don’t know but yes he took advantage of his speed and did great but he really did had that speed. Saying Red Bull wasn’t massively faster at that time is as dishonest as saying he can’t drive. There’s no way that the reason he was closing on the back of others like they where sitting ducks was because of the difference of driving skills or else it would happen everywhere. There is a limit on the difference you can find just by the driver and his speed on those laps was just too massive.

          • Sorry Dizzy,

            having the fastest race pace of anyone doesn’t make someone the luckiest driver ever seen. Unless you have the word luck mixed up with skill.

            Having the fastest car Skill sorry.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 23rd April 2013, 1:16

            GW -

            The difference between the cars isn’t significant (we had Mercedes on pole, both Lotuses on the podium, and the same fastest car finished 7th). Thus even with the fastest car, Vettel was still the fastest driver.

        • ramy (@ramysennaf1) said on 21st April 2013, 22:10

          @solo: great comment mate, see u agree with me that the redbulls have better pace over the others and that was at the beginning with vettel getting past easily, and showing as i said when hamilton had one hell of a time to get past webber in the end with drs !!!!!and while webber’s tyres were at 10% he still was fending off his move .

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 21st April 2013, 22:35

            There’s a difference between Solo saying that the car was fastest, and you saying Vettel is the luckiest driver ever seen though.

          • dennis (@dennis) said on 22nd April 2013, 11:35

            I was looking for your comments from the last races… For some reason I couldn’t find them.

            Melbourne:
            “Kimi has the best car by far. He is the luckiest driver ever…”
            China:
            “Alonso has the best car by far. He is the luckiest driver ever…”

            So please, where have you been when these drivers dominated those GPs, hm? It’s always the same crap. When any driver wins a race… DOTD. When a Red Bull wins… “Oh, it’s all down to Newey.”

            This is becoming tiresome.

      • Roberto (@roberto) said on 22nd April 2013, 3:05

        These duplicate comments are getting really old rather fast. I thought such behaviour is frowned upon on this site? Please make a better effort at screening this or add a much needed Ignore functionality.

  2. Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 14:42

    8.5/10 My fav race so far this year, battles right the way through the field.

    I was very impressed with Hamilton’s sticking power to eke out a 5th place finish and finish ahead of Rosberg. The battle between McLaren drivers was fantastic (apart from Button moaning on the radio like a baby) and Ham vs Webber. Also great performances from Seb, Kimi, Perez and Di Resta, superb recovery from Alonso.

    As for Pirelli, SORT IT OUT YOU MUPPETS! *SIGH*

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 21st April 2013, 15:07

      Same here.

      My fave race so far. But I’m getting worried about those tyres, let’s wait what they see after analyzing Massa’s tyres but I think Pirelli is under pressure and we should not wait until something serious happens.

    • Colossal Squid (@colossal-squid) said on 21st April 2013, 15:10

      Same as well. Worrying how many failures Pirelli had this weekend. That can’t be allowed to happen again. Brilliant from Perez, he’s shut up his critics this weekend. Horrible, horrible luck for Ferrari.

    • AlokIn (@) said on 21st April 2013, 15:33

      +1

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st April 2013, 19:10

      @hellotraverse, well at least it should be clear now that the harder compounds produce the best racing, a little harder would have been even better.

    • Cranberry said on 22nd April 2013, 15:43

      I don’t think that there are any serious problems with Pirelli’s tyres. Only 2 cars had issues and Hamilton, with his merc being one of the heaviest on it’s rears, saw none of that during the race. This GP did really feed my hunger for a DRS-free race, the best overtakes were made by drivers into the (4th?) corner and continuing to the sweeping combination, awesome moves there throughout the GP!

      This race had everything!
      Dominant front runner, boring.
      Räikkönen and Grosjean playing the strategy game and coming out on top, exciting for a strategic mind.
      Real overtakes without DRS nonsense, exciting for anyone.

      Seeing Button and Perez go at eachother was an absolute treat. I’m sure that little radio message “Sergio look after the car” had a meaning far deeper than the sum of it’s words, but still “the new boy” kept at it and made it stick, brilliant.

      Webber battling Hamilton was, astonishingly, even better. Neither of them were crying on the radio to daddy and both of them are professional enough not to crash. I was on the edge of my seat praying to the allmighty Ateismo for Webber to win it! I don’t know who had the fresher set of tyres and I dont care. Atleast DRS did not spoil those magnificent moments.

      What’s up with the FIAs inability to fix their electronics!?
      How can this be the pinnacle of motorsport when they’re so completely useless with technology!? Now that I think of it, the broadcasts have hardly changed at all since I started watching (circa ’98). The only difference is the on-screen graphics.

  3. Nick.UK (@) said on 21st April 2013, 14:43

    5/10

    CONS:
    One team enormously faster than the rest of the field and totally unchallenged for the win – on top of that no decent racing between team mates like Malaysia.
    Unacceptable FIA telemetry failures… AGAIN! Sort it out!
    Tyre delaminations that fundamentally affected a race.
    I’m not even going to bother mentioning in any depth the whole ‘Bahrain issue’.

    PROS:
    Grosjean’s resurgent race performance great to see.
    The McLaren battle was fun to watch… that said Button part ruined it with his radio whining. Fantastic to see Perez stick it to him.
    Very impressed with Alonso finishing only 30 odd seconds down the road from the winner despite those back to back pit stops early on.
    Good final 15 laps in general despite not being for the win.

    • M Dickens (@sgt-pepper) said on 21st April 2013, 14:47

      (@nick-uk)

      One team enormously faster than the rest of the field and totally unchallenged for the win

      The McLaren battle was fun to watch… that said Button part ruined it with his radio whining. Fantastic to see Perez stick it to him.
      Very impressed with Alonso finishing only 30 odd seconds down the road from the winner despite those back to back pit stops early on.

      +1

    • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 14:50

      that said Button part ruined it with his radio whining

      +1 It was good to see Perez finally stamp his authority on this McLaren team and in the process show Button who’s BOSS :)

      • N8_2705 said on 21st April 2013, 15:10

        Your kidding right? He sure seemed like a Boss when he got out qualified by his teammate for the 4th time in a row and managed a Boss like 9th for his best finish before today…..good call

      • JCost (@jcost) said on 21st April 2013, 15:12

        After “Multi 21″ thing Button said he’d favor teammates racing without pit interference but he wasn’t very pleased with Checo’s stubbornness today…

        • Nick.UK (@) said on 21st April 2013, 15:16

          Yeah his “calm him down” message was just so senseless. Like he thought it was a joke that Perez could get in front of him on merit.

          • matt90 (@matt90) said on 21st April 2013, 15:30

            To be fair, didn’t that come just after they touched?

          • trublu (@trublu) said on 21st April 2013, 15:41

            I can’t fault Button for complaining. Perez pretty much took a oiece off his tires when he hit him from behind

          • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 15:41

            @matt90
            It’s an extremely condescending way to word it though. He could have said ‘This is too close’ or something to that effect. It sounded like Dave Cameron telling an opposition Female MP to ‘Calm down dear’. Jenson was out of order.

          • matt90 (@matt90) said on 21st April 2013, 15:45

            I think after your team mate has needlessly made contact with you, you are justified in using whatever tone or wording you want.

        • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 15:21

          Button just told sky that Perez was ‘too aggressive’. Does Jenson not remember the 2010 Turkey GP, he was very aggressive with Ham. What a hypocrite.

          • Wouldn’t YOU guys complain over the radio if your team-mate just hit you from behind (damaging his own front wing in the process) in a move that could have easily led to a puncture for Yourself?

            Great racing, but hated it that Vettel won the race ;-)
            From a Button-fan, Vettel-non-fan: 8/10, I wish everybody was as biased as me in the rate the RACE (not driver)

          • panache (@panache) said on 21st April 2013, 15:59

            It was Hamilton who made a risky move on the inside of Button into turn one to take back the lead in Turkey 2010. Hamilton said this himself recently in an interview. Button’s overtaking was clean as it pretty much always is.

            The only bad contact I can remember from Button when overtaking a rival in recent years was with Alonso at Canada in 2011 which was pretty much 50/50 and we all know how that race ended.

            Of course Button said Perez was too aggressive. Perez rammed Button in the rear then later bashed wheels with him on the straight into turn four. Button was also very bullish after getting hit twice with the adrenaline flowing but he knew where he could push the limits. Last race people were saying Button is the easiest driver to overtake in F1 and now he’s being criticised for defending too strongly.

          • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 16:00

            Wouldn’t YOU guys complain over the radio

            No, I’d shut up and race like a real racer.

          • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 16:03

            @panache

            The only bad contact I can remember from Button when overtaking a rival in recent years was with Alonso at Canada in 2011 which was pretty much 50/50 and we all know how that race ended.

            So it’s ok for ‘Nice guy’ Jenson to be aggressive and ruin another drivers…ok

          • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 16:04

            *another drivers race

          • Nick.UK (@) said on 21st April 2013, 17:09

            @gdewilde

            You say to vote like you. No thanks. I gave a breakdown of why I only voted 5/10. People seem to think here that when rating a race the default score is 7 and anything up of that is good and below is bad.

    • tmekt (@tmekt) said on 21st April 2013, 14:50

      One team enormously faster than the rest of the field and totally unchallenged for the win

      Too bad for Webber then.

      on top of that no decent racing between team mates like Malaysia.

      Button & Perez?

      • Blackmamba (@blackmamba) said on 21st April 2013, 14:54

        Button got hammered by Perez today. I hope this will stop his patronising tone when he speaks about Perez!

        • pSynrg (@psynrg) said on 21st April 2013, 16:31

          Of course it won’t. He’ll blame it on everything except himself. This race has simply cemented my dislike of Jenson ’2face’ Button. Such a massive hypocrite. It lends weight to my thoughts that one of big reasons Lewis got out of McLaren was to get away from Jenson’s conniving ways.

        • Keamo said on 21st April 2013, 16:32

          @blackmamba. I hope so too. Button has been acting like he is far superior than Perez. Perez showed him who’s boss today. All he could was moan to daddy over the radio instead of racing faster. They are only 3 points apart so it’s on!!!!

      • Nick.UK (@) said on 21st April 2013, 14:55

        That comment was in regard to the win. No fight between Vettel & Webber.

        • Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 21st April 2013, 15:08

          @nick-uk

          One team enormously faster than the rest of the field and totally unchallenged for the win

          Lotus were hardly far away from Red Bull’s pace, and I also feel that true Alonso’s pace was masked with him having to make up places without DRS.

          • JCost (@jcost) said on 21st April 2013, 15:13

            Indeed. Alonso did pretty good DRS less. That Ferrari is quick.

          • firstLapNutcaseGrosjean (@) said on 21st April 2013, 15:42

            @kingshark On the same tyres Vettel did 1.36.9 and Raikkonen 1.38.1 . This are the best times. On, softer tyres Grosjean did the best, I think somewehere 1.37 – 1.38 . So, that’s clear who had the best pace today.

          • dennis (@dennis) said on 22nd April 2013, 11:37

            Exactly. Alonso/Ferrari ruined their race themselves. And Lotus had a terrible qualy. The difference wasn’t as big as it seemed. Vettel simply had the better weekend.

        • matt90 (@matt90) said on 21st April 2013, 15:33

          Expecting team mates to battle for the win at every race is a bit optimistic.

      • ramy (@ramysennaf1) said on 21st April 2013, 15:37

        glad that more than one person agrees with me that one car is faster the rest of the field

        • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 16:06

          I know, Alonso’s Ferrari is the fastest :P

          • M Dickens (@sgt-pepper) said on 21st April 2013, 16:18

            (@hellotraverse)

            It’s an extremely condescending way to word it though. He could have said ‘This is too close’ or something to that effect. It sounded like Dave Cameron telling an opposition Female MP to ‘Calm down dear’. Jenson was out of order.

            Agree with this 100%, to me it was approaching the condescension levels of ‘get mark out of the way, he’s too slow,’ though not quite that bad.

    • brny666 said on 21st April 2013, 15:47

      So last weeks race was bad as well because Alonso in the ferrari was much quicker than anything else? just wondering. Also while Vettel was awesomely quick where was Webber? You can easily make a case for the RB being a very good car and Seb outperforming it which shows up as a dominant performance.

    • One team enormously faster than the rest of the field and totally unchallenged for the win

      You must have been watching a different race – I saw one driver who was faster than the rest of the field and largely unchallenged for the win. If the “team” was “enormously faster than the rest of the field” than it’s downright peculiar that Webber did not finish second.

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st April 2013, 19:17

      @nick-uk, Which team was massively faster? I presume you mean Ferarri as Alonso “finishing only 30 oddseconds behind the winner” despite 2 extra 20 odd second pit-stops and no DRS for most of the race.

      • Nick.UK (@) said on 21st April 2013, 19:41

        @hohum I understand the contradiction there, but this is ‘rate the race’ and has to be looked at in iscolation. Granted Ferrari may be quicker when you look at the bigger picture; the whole season ahead etc, but they still at this race arrived at the finish line a long time behind the leader.

        • HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st April 2013, 19:54

          @nick-uk, Even with the harder tyre compounds there is a huge advantage being in front, my take, the cars are very close in performance, SV made the early winning move and then got lucky when FA had a technical problem.

          • BasCB (@bascb) said on 22nd April 2013, 7:03

            Exactly @hohum, the difference between Vettel and Webber in the race (even with Vettel not going full out once he had a solid lead) is no doubt for a big part due to being in free air up ahead. Similarly Grosjean was also a lot in free air and that helped him get to the podium.

    • magon4 (@magon4) said on 22nd April 2013, 7:53

      I don’t think that Lotus being faster than anyone else hurt the race, why did you @nick-uk?

  4. Osvaldas31 (@osvaldas31) said on 21st April 2013, 14:43

    10/10. Some really cracking racing, especially between Hamilton and Webber, and Vettel’s move on Alonso.

    • hunocsi (@hunocsi) said on 21st April 2013, 16:45

      Same vote, same thoughts. Mark and Lewis had a really great battle, such a shame Webber got overtaken by Perez as well in the end. Really glad for Lewis, I didn’t think he could have get into the top 5 after the qualifying.
      I was sad for Di Resta missing out on a podium finish as he had a great drive but he didn’t have a chance against Grosjean who was on the option tires, but it was a magnificent result still. Also sad for Rosberg and Button, who had to make an extra pit stop.
      The performance of Gutierrez is starting to become really embarrassing for Sauber, he couldn’t even get in front of all the Caterhams, for which you have to congratulate Pic who managed to finish in front of him, that was bit of a Bianchi-style performance going on there, who was pretty quiet today.
      I’m also disappointed for Vergne, the only retirement after van der Garde run into the back of him. He has had a string of unfortunate races – vdG crashing into him in the pit in Sepang, Webber crashing into him in China – hope he’ll have more luck in the upcoming races.
      A massive amount of misfortune for Ferrari – they had everything against them, which is a shame as I was very interested what Massa could have get out of his strategy in the race – he was my main favorite after qualifying.
      Finally I am very happy for Kimi after a strong performance in the race, such a shame his qualifying didn’t turn out the way it could have. He could be a massive contender for WDC this year, I hope he can succeed.

      • JCost (@jcost) said on 22nd April 2013, 9:19

        @hunocsi

        Hamilton managed his race perfectly. He knew that Mercedes is hard to drive when heavy and avoided racing hard to save his tyres and mounted an aggressive attack towards the end when light on fuel. On the other hand Nico went for a 4th stop.

  5. tkcom (@tkcom) said on 21st April 2013, 14:44

    8/10 Apart from Seb, solid actions all around.

    • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 14:47

      RING DING DING DING!!!
      Come on! You have to give THE VET some credit for leaving the rest of the field in his wake…come on… you know you want to :P

      • obviously said on 21st April 2013, 15:04

        I could swear @hellotraverse is Helmut Marko.
        It’s ok to talk up your fav driver, but you are on every single user post with a reply, telling them that Vettel is better than they think.

        • Obviously, I could swear half the people on this site have had their children killed by Vettel the way they react so aghast towards him. So he’s right, Vettel is better than what certain delusional people think of him.

        • Traverse (@) said on 21st April 2013, 15:29

          Of course I am I’m not Helmut Marko. I’ve He’s got better things to do than post on a forum…*Cough*

          It just annoys me when people don’t give credit to a driver that clearly deserves it.

          • matt90 (@matt90) said on 21st April 2013, 15:36

            This is rate the race, not driver of the weekend though. Vettel going unchallenged for the majority of the race is a fair reason to mark it down, as a battle for the win is always the mark of a great race.

          • pSynrg (@psynrg) said on 21st April 2013, 16:33

            @hellotraverse. I couldn’t agree more. Vettel is a legend. No need to worry about the naysayers as Seb will consistently prove them wrong and for many years to come. Shaping up to be the greatest driver F1 has seen…

          • “No need to worry about the naysayers as Seb will consistently prove them wrong and for many years to come. Shaping up to be the greatest driver F1 has seen…”

            lol i almost fell out my chair.

            Vettel did well, but lets face it, we know these tyres are nearly impossible to drive on when you’re battling for position through the race, this is why, for example, Rosberg finished behind Hamilton despite starting on pole compared to 9th, because Hamilton could sit and wait for Rosberg to ruin his race by battling. This is to say, Vettel was so dominant because he never had any challange all race, so he can therefore manage his tyres, and therefore pace, very nicly.

            “Greatest F1 ever seen” because he had one nice race with no challanger? give us a break, mate.

          • Jonny C (@loomx92) said on 21st April 2013, 17:59

            @N tbf it’s quite a few more than just the one race, more like closer to 20 (at least that’s how many pole – win’s he’s had and this one he didn’t even start from pole).

            I would’ve agreed at the end of 2011 that he was no-where near the greatest f1 driver ever, just lucky to have the right car at the right time. But he’s changed my mind the last 18months. I’m still not his biggest fan, but dude, credit given where credit’s due, he’s got some mad skills and he’s not afraid to use them (although the team still try keeping him on a leash).

          • pSynrg (@psynrg) said on 21st April 2013, 18:38

            This is to say, Vettel was so dominant because he never had any challange all race, so he can therefore manage his tyres, and therefore pace, very nicly

            And this is exactly why he is shaping up. He controls the race because he can and he does it much more often than not. He clearly sacrificed qualifying pace for race set up. He knew he needed to be in the lead. So he got it. Against lauded (and indeed brilliant) driver Alonso (before his DRS problems.)
            Vettel is just brilliant and has the measure of Alonso and Hamilton. Just have a look at his lap chart. The consistent lap delta is surreal in its near perfection.

          • “I’m still not his biggest fan, but dude, credit given where credit’s due”

            Where did i not give him credit? I said he drove well. But ofcourse, you can drive well when you’re under no pressure at all. Vettels only real challanger going into this race was Alonso, and he had immediate problems. We knew Rosberg was going to fall back, we knew Raikkonen was starting low and playing the strategy game, this left Vettel to run out in clean-air (after a nice pass), and look after his tyres without being pressured, we know when you have no cars around you, you can focus on the road ahead, and when a drive gets in this zone he can hit consistent lap times, and look after his tyres because he isnt having to snatch a break here and there, and run off line here and there.

            Anyone who thinks this performance wasnt a one-off based on the particular circumstances at Bahrain is ill-informed and niaeve.

            Any top driver can run around with great pace looking after their tyres when they know the pressure is off. We see drivers putting in extremely accurate laptimes in FP sessions for this reason. It’s a world of difference when theres someone in your mirrors piling on the pressure, making you use your tyres in a different manner.

            Again, Vettel is decent and can pull a decent result in a good car on a good day… greatest in F1? give me a break.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 21st April 2013, 19:52

            @N

            “Greatest F1 ever seen” because he had one nice race with no challanger? give us a break, mate.

            Anyone who thinks this performance wasnt a one-off based on the particular circumstances at Bahrain is ill-informed and niaeve./blockquote>

            If this was a one-off from Vettel, then how come he’s had so many dominant performances so many times over the last 5 years? What is that now, 15, 20, 25 “one-off” performances?

            It’s easy to say “but he wasn’t under any pressure”. But that shows ignorance for the reason he wasn’t under pressure. That was down to a) qualifying well, b) passing Alonso and Rosberg in the opening laps, and c) being the fastest man on track for the vast majority of the race. And he did it when it mattered. Claiming that others are consistent in FP is a nonsensical and irrelevant point- you gain no points for free practice.

            Above all though, the manner in which you attempt to write off the performance today as a one-off, really buried any credibility you were even trying to have.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 21st April 2013, 19:57

            @N

            “Greatest F1 ever seen” because he had one nice race with no challanger? give us a break, mate.

            Anyone who thinks this performance wasnt a one-off based on the particular circumstances at Bahrain is ill-informed and niaeve.

            If this was a “one-off” from Vettel, then how come he’s had so many dominant performances so many times over the last 5 years? What is that now, 15, 20, 25 “one-off” performances?

            It’s easy to say “but he wasn’t under any pressure”. But that shows ignorance for the reason he wasn’t under pressure. That was down to a) qualifying well, b) passing Alonso and Rosberg in the opening laps, and c) being the fastest man on track for the vast majority of the race. And he did it when it mattered. Claiming that others are consistent in FP is a nonsensical and irrelevant point- you gain no points for free practice.

            Above all though, the manner in which you attempt to write off the performance today as a one-off, really buried any credibility you were even trying to have.

          • “If this was a “one-off” from Vettel, then how come he’s had so many dominant performances so many times over the last 5 years?”

            Firstly, were did i say anythink about his performances over the past few years? Secondly, I specifically mentioned this particular performance being dominant because of tyres, in so much that he was able to maximise tyre performance because he wasnt being pushed on them. His main, and only real competitor was out of the equation early on. You know, theres a reason Rosberg, who started on the podium, 8 places ahead of Hamilton in 9th, finished in 10th, while Hamilton finished 5th, this is because Hamilton was sat behind a train of cars for most of the race looking after his pace. While Rosberg was having to defend/push/defend/push.

            Just because i said this dominant performance was a one-off has nothing to do with his previous results in previous seasons. Im talking about here and now, with these ‘new’ pirellis. Unless you dont following the sport this year, you should know these tyres behave massivly different when you’re runing around to a delta, to being pushed. This is why we saw no defending in China because drivers didnt wanna put them beyond pressure on the tyres. This race in Bahrain was so much more exciting because drivers were actually racing, it was exciting for us as viewers, but not for the drivers, well, except Vettel, who could drive around like it was a FP session.

            “c) being the fastest man on track for the vast majority of the race. And he did it when it mattered. Claiming that others are consistent in FP is a nonsensical and irrelevant point- you gain no points for free practice.”

            Mate, what? I said we see any driver being consistent in FP sessions because they know theres no pressure for racing, they can just consentrate on their braking points/apex and know they arnt under pressure to fight, exactly how Vettel was in this race. He wasnt under pressure from anyone, therefore hes not snatching any brakes, hes not over driving the tyres, and when you dont over drive these tyres, you can have very good pace.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 21st April 2013, 21:19

            @N

            Firstly, were did i say anythink about his performances over the past few years?

            You didn’t, but you assumed that Psynrg ‘s comment was based on today’s performance (“one nice race with no challanger (sp)” ring any bells?). How do you know his praise wasn’t based on the nice wins being pretty common for Vettel?

            Secondly, I specifically mentioned this particular performance being dominant because of tyres, in so much that he was able to maximise tyre performance because he wasnt being pushed on them.

            Again, it’s easy to talk about not being pushed, as if finding yourself in first place, with clean air happens randomly or something. But there are good (skill related) reasons a driver finds himself in such a position (i.e. raw speed (from driver and car), and racecraft). Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean, for instance, had to play the “strategy game” to get forward, as a result of not being fast enough in qualifying.

            I said we see any driver being consistent in FP sessions because they know theres no pressure for racing, they can just consentrate on their braking points/apex and know they arnt under pressure to fight, exactly how Vettel was in this race. He wasnt under pressure from anyone, therefore hes not snatching any brakes, hes not over driving the tyres, and when you dont over drive these tyres, you can have very good pace.

            And I refer you back to the point that for Vettel to have that luxury, he had to qualify on the front row, clear his opponents, and be the fastest driver throughout the race.

          • pSynrg (@psynrg) said on 21st April 2013, 21:37

            I’m good with all this. Yet again after many occasions we find ourselves discussing if Vettel lucked it and/or had it easy. The fact that this discussion is repeated time and again is evidence enough that Vettel is THE driver of this generation.
            And this is against grids with a deep and rich pool of extreme talent with more WC’s racing than at any time in F1′s history.

            Sit back, watch and revel in this history in the making.

            My fave driver? Lewis Hamilton by a long shot. As far as I’m concerned, the sun shines etc.

            But I see something very very special when I watch Vettel and I’m thoroughly enjoying the experience!

          • Jonny C (@loomx92) said on 21st April 2013, 22:59

            @psynrg totally agree. Lewis brought me back to the sport after ’04-’06 being a bit hit and miss on excitement and he’s kept me on the edge of my seat more than anyone else since. But I really can’t wait to see Vettel in 5years thinking of how good he is now!

      • Beto (@chebeto0) said on 21st April 2013, 15:09

        I agree with @tkcom. Not taking anything away from VET, it’s just that he dominating the race didn’t help make it fun to watch. If he’d had to fight for the win it’d been a 9 or 10/10 for me.

        • DrewB said on 21st April 2013, 15:24

          Actually Vettel completely owning Alonso – the best racer alive according to most of the bloggers on here – with a brilliant overtake made the race hugely entertaining for me.

          • well its 1-1 as alonso did him at turn 1. Then after that the race was ruined by his wing breaking. We have no idea how it would of ended and anyone claiming they do are well…wrong.

        • David-A (@david-a) said on 21st April 2013, 20:00

          @tkcom @matt90 @chebeto0 – I agree with you guys, there wasn’t much of a fight for the lead beyond the first few laps, which means that the race being voted down is fair. Around 8/10 from me, for those opening laps, and many battles throughout the field.

      • HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st April 2013, 19:21

        @traverse “THE VET” ! I thought he was a proctologist.

  6. Bobby Balboa (@bobby-balboa) said on 21st April 2013, 14:44

    9/10 Solid race with plenty of close battles. Shame about Alonso & Massa I think the Ferrari would have been pretty solid today but Finger Boy was out on his own.

    Great fight at the end with Ham/Web & Alo/Per

  7. tmax (@tmax) said on 21st April 2013, 14:44

    Give the boys some good Rubber and they will show their power !!!!! Hoho #longlastingrubber

    • favomodo (@favomodo) said on 21st April 2013, 14:50

      I hated the tire choice to be honest. The two compounds behaved more or less the same. What the point of having two compounds then?

      • Cristian (@theseeker) said on 21st April 2013, 14:55

        Considering that the Mediums lasted 15 laps tops, I wouldn’t even want to imagine what would’ve happend with the Softs, so…

      • HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st April 2013, 19:25

        @favomodo, without these more durable tyres we would not have had nearly as much sustained wheel to wheel racing, harder of course would have been even better.

  8. M Dickens (@sgt-pepper) said on 21st April 2013, 14:45

    Pros
    - Alonso’s amazing drive proving we don’t need DRS
    - Kimi on the podium
    - Tons of great battles

    Cons
    - Alonso’s failure meant he wasn’t scrapping at the front
    - Vettel’s victory
    - Button’s complaining

    • “Pros
      - Alonso’s amazing drive proving we don’t need DRS”

      To be fair, after his stops to fix DRS, he was way down the order and therefore in much better machinery than the slower cars. Once he caught up to quicker cars, it wasnt so easy to pass.

      • batador (@batador) said on 22nd April 2013, 11:04

        Key word: “wasn’t so easy to pass” just like it’s supposed to be, fight for a couple of laps, not get within one second and pass

  9. matt90 (@matt90) said on 21st April 2013, 14:45

    8. It was exciting throughout, but it disappointing that nobody could challenge Vettel, and despite DRS was better than last week, it was still a bit much at times. Alonso proved that there is no need for DRS at tracks like this.

    • matt90 (@matt90) said on 21st April 2013, 14:52

      Really wish I could edit.

      8. It was exciting throughout, but it was disappointing that nobody could challenge Vettel, and despite DRS being better than last week, it was still a bit too much at times. Alonso proved that there is no need for DRS at tracks like this.

  10. Cyclops_PL (@cyclops_pl) said on 21st April 2013, 14:45

    Very good in my book. Tremendous battles towards the end. I hope Perez will not be punished. The star of the race for me. I also hope Ferrari had their share of bad luck today. Catastrophic race for them – DRS failure for Alonso, puncture and front wing for Massa. Good job from Lotus guys and very strong performance from Vettel.

  11. Adam Kibbey (@kibblesworth) said on 21st April 2013, 14:46

    My respect for Perez has hugely increased, what a gripping display of racing! Fair enough to McLaren, they sure did let their drivers race!

  12. hshsyu said on 21st April 2013, 14:46

    9/10.

    Clearly best race of the season although wasnt decided on the track for alonso.

    Kimi strikes again. Awesome job!

  13. Red Andy (@red-andy) said on 21st April 2013, 14:46

    The winner was a foregone conclusion as soon as Pirelli changed the tyre allocation at the eleventh hour. Some nice racing down the field, but DRS spoiled many potentially good battles and Pirelli’s politicking sullied what could have been a very good race. 3 from me.

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st April 2013, 19:31

      @red-andy, I’m sure many people wish that Vettel had not won, but don’t blame the harder tyres for that, Alonso should have been able to win today if his car had not had a problem.
      At least with the harder tyres we got to see some proper racing.

  14. Ciaran (@ciaran) said on 21st April 2013, 14:46

    Vettel was unchallenged up front, but otherwise very enjoyable from start to finish. Compared to only a few years ago, the racing is so much better.

    • Beto (@chebeto0) said on 21st April 2013, 15:25

      Yeah, I knew Vettel was going to win as soon as he passed Alonso at the beginning. It looked so easy, as if he had extra 100hp or something. That car has so much grip. Good hands from Vettel also help a lot. Other than that, the race was as good as you’d want every race to be.

  15. favomodo (@favomodo) said on 21st April 2013, 14:47

    Lots of battles, but none of them really did matter, as it was al sorted out after a few laps. Easy win for Vettel, really really boring. Only Perez gave a good show today…

    As for the tires. What is the point of 2 different compounds if there isn’t any significant difference between them? Bad call from Pirelli to lose the soft tire for this race.

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