Vettel praises Russian Grand Prix venue

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In the round-up: Sebastian Vettel has a tour of the Sochi venue for next year’s Russian Grand Prix.

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Vettel samples Russia’s new Sochi circuit (F1)

“I can already see it will be a fun circuit to drive in a Formula One car and the rest of the venue is very impressive.”

Bernie Ecclestone wants new five-year deal for troubled Bahrain GP (The Guardian)

“I feel they do a super job and we’re more than happy to give them a new contract for five years. I don’t see any problems.”

Stench of burning tyres leaves mark (The Telegraph)

“Ecclestone had few qualms about bringing the sport here in 2004, in the knowledge that the country?s grateful rulers were prepared to pay ??26 million a year for hosting rights, and has brushed aside human rights concerns ever since by insisting that sport and politics should not mix. But such a defence has been difficult to reconcile during the past six days with the spectacle of opposition marches in Manama, and more violent clashes in outlying Shia areas.”

Trends in Bahrain (Joe Saward)

[Bahrain International Circuit chairman Zayed] Al Zayani said that he was encouraged by the increase in the three-day figure to 73,000 this year, mainly because a lot of them were corporate guests and he believes that confidence is returning.

Bahrain Grand Prix ?ǣ epilogue (MotorSport)

Ecclestone: “You know I?ve been anti the 2014 engines since day one and we?re going to have a fuel economy run for sure so we?ll have to be very careful.”

Mercedes not that far off – Hamilton (BBC)

“I feel like we’re holding on by the skin of our teeth.”

Nico Rosberg message after Pole Position and P9 in the Bahrain GP 2013 (Nico Rosberg via YouTube)

Q&A: McLaren on driver rivalry (Autosport)

Sam Michael: “The team… has to accept that, in not imposing a team order on either of our drivers, despite our seeing on our pitwall monitors an increasingly intense battle unfolding between them, we weren’t adopting what you could term a ‘caution-optimised’ strategy.”

The Lady’?s Trophy (Red Bull)

Red Bull electronic support group leader Gill Jones: “It was my 177th race, so it took me a while to get there! For me, as a personal achievement, it?s brilliant, I?m really proud. I?m really pleased to be able to represent the team and also the department I work for ?ǣ electronics ?ǣ because I think we play a massive part in the team. Again, being female as well makes it special. So, yes, very proud.”

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Comment of the day

Chris on the variey of strategies seen in Bahrain:

I like that there?s a wide variety in strategy calls (two, three and four stops), but I still feel that four stops is just too much.

If they make the soft and/or super-soft compounds more durable, then I think we?d see one, two and three-stoppers, which is better, and slightly easier to follow as a viewer.
Chris (@Tophercheese21)

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On this day in F1

The British Grand Prix has only been held in April on one occasion, which was on this day 13 years ago. Heavy rain turned the surrounding fields and car parks into quagmires, making life miserable for spectators and the following year the Silverstone race was back in its usual summer slot.

But weeks of rain prior to last year’s race caused a repeat of the problems. Many spectators were urged not to travel to the track on the Saturday of the race weekend and the track had to issue refunds to those who could not make it.

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117 comments on Vettel praises Russian Grand Prix venue

  1. William (@william) said on 23rd April 2013, 7:28

    He would never drop places like Spa and Monza if Monza does go bring back Imola. We have got Thailand, Mexico and maybe Turkey joining the calendar either 2014 or 2015. He is also negotiating a return of Long Beach

  2. Matthijs (@matthijs) said on 23rd April 2013, 7:42

    What a horrible layout. How can a layout like this pass scrutineering?

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 23rd April 2013, 7:59

      @matthijs

      How can a layout like this pass scrutineering?

      Because there is no such thing as scrutineering for circuit layouts. In order to host a Grand Prix, a circuit must pass all the requirements for an FIA Grade-1 certification, but these requirements relate to things like circuit width and length, the size and shape of run-off areas (relative to the maximum speed on approach to the corner and the speed of the corner itself), the number and location of circuit access points for marshalls, and so on and so forth. Provided a circuit satisfies these requirements, it is elegible to hold a Grand Prix.

      Just look at some of the other circuits on the calendar: Monza has a terrible layout. It’s just a series of long straights broken up by chicanes. If that layout was proposed today, people would hate it. But Monza presents a unique challenge in that it has such a low downforce configuration, and it comes with the fastest average lap time of any circuit on the calendar. And that challenge it provides more than makes up for the boring layout. I see no reason why Sochi can’t do the same – it’s a high-speed street circuit with no run-off and no margin for error, and most of the corners are blind.

      • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 23rd April 2013, 8:30

        @prisoner-monkeys

        Monza has a terrible layout. It’s just a series of long straights broken up by chicanes. If that layout was proposed today, people would hate it.

        I don’t agree Monza has a terrible layout and if more tracks like it were proposed – high-speed, low downforce circuits with few corners – I’d be all in favour. There are far too few tracks like it in the calendar.

        • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 23rd April 2013, 8:51

          @keithcollantine

          There are far too few tracks like it in the calendar.

          And that’s what Sochi is: high speed, low downforce. Maybe not as low as Monza, but there’s only really one or two corners on the circuit that really require significant amounts of downforce. The rest of them – particularly the ninety-degree corners – will rely more on mechanical grip and traction.

          The point I’m trying to make is that we can’t judge the Sochi circuit based on a simple two-dimensional representation of the layout, because there is so much going on that we cannot actually see in those plans. For instance, the far end of the circuit goes around the Bolshoi Ice Dome, a stadium that will seat 12,000 people. Since the circuit is flat, all of those corners around the Ice Dome are going to be completely blind. Likewise that high-speed section at the end of the lap; it goes past the Iceberg Skating Palace, and the drivers won’t be able to see the braking marker for Turn 11 (the ninety-degree right-hander leading into the final sector) until they’ve passed it and reached the fastest section of the circuit.

          None of this detail is shown in the maps, which are little more than a line drawn on a piece of paper. How can anybody reasonably pass judgement on the circuit based on that and that alone?

          • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 23rd April 2013, 8:55

            @prisoner-monkeys

            that’s what Sochi is: high speed, low downforce

            It doesn’t look like a low-downforce track to me. Monza is 83% flat-out, no way are they going to be anywhere near that on this circuit.

            They only touch the brakes five times per lap at Monza, I reckon they’ll be on them at least twice as much around Sochi.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 23rd April 2013, 9:01

            It doesn’t look like a low-downforce track to me. Monza is 83% flat-out, no way are they going to be anywhere near that on this circuit.

            They only touch the brakes five times per lap at Monza, I reckon they’ll be on them at least twice as much around Sochi.

            The only corner that is really going to require any downforce is Turn 3, the giant left-hander. Most of the other corners are going to need mechanical grip and traction to navigate quickly.

          • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 23rd April 2013, 9:33

            @prisoner-monkeys Let’s have this conversation again in 19 months when I’m proved right :-)

          • sato113 (@sato113) said on 23rd April 2013, 13:53

            also they look like fast 90 degree corners. so downforce will be more important than mechanical grip as it usually is.

      • mildertduck (@mildertduck) said on 23rd April 2013, 8:42

        It reminds me of an indycar circuit… something like a cross between Toronto and St. Pete… let’s hope they have good marshalls!

      • Matthijs (@matthijs) said on 23rd April 2013, 11:01

        I like that you defend Sochi, because you are right: we all jundge solely on a 2D map. But I’ve had enough of the geometrical layouts drawn by ruler and drafting compass. The best races are usually on fluent layouts such as Spa, Suzuka, Silverstone and Sao Paulo and the worst races are often on Tilke tracks. Learn from it, Hermann!

        • William (@william) said on 23rd April 2013, 11:54

          @matthijis
          Hermann produces great tracks at times but it has to be F1 standard and look at the Korean circuit it is an elite track, Spa, Suzuka and Silverstone are also elite but Interlagos is terrible compared to Marina Bay and Bernie is right they need to move to Rio next year but now he insists on staying at Interlagos. If he is unhappy move to Rio and make them the home of Brazilian GP.

          • Matthijs (@matthijs) said on 23rd April 2013, 14:58

            I was talking about the layout, not about the facilities. Nobody on this forum will suggest that Interlagos has a horrible layout.

      • OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 23rd April 2013, 16:04

        I didn’t know Lesmo 1 and 2 were boring

  3. BenH (@benh) said on 23rd April 2013, 10:53

    I am sure you forget my birthday every year on purpose now @keithcollantine ;)

  4. Bruno (@brunes) said on 23rd April 2013, 11:22

    Another Tilkedrome?

  5. ob1 (@ob1) said on 23rd April 2013, 11:36

    That Russian track design looks like a sickle, is the designer trying to hint at Russia’s history

  6. JerseyF1 (@jerseyf1) said on 23rd April 2013, 11:41

    Is the shape inspired by a Sickle!?

  7. markgibb45 (@markgibb45) said on 23rd April 2013, 12:59

    Enough of this “Bahrain are a bad governement we shouldn’t be going there” NONSENSE.

    Sport and politics should not and do not mix. If we’re all so suddenly concerned about people’s human rights in the country hosting a GP we surely should be all gurning about China, America, Brazil, and even GREAT BRITAIN….(after all there was a British Grand Prix in 1972.)

    Grow up and get on with it.

  8. Maksutov (@maksutov) said on 23rd April 2013, 13:27

    “I can already see it will be a fun circuit to drive in a Formula One car and the rest of the venue is very impressive.”

    What Vettel really wanted to say was:

    ” I can already see it … I am going to win..”

  9. sato113 (@sato113) said on 23rd April 2013, 13:48

    ive spotted one positive from the sochi design: no hairpins! and no hairpins leading onto straights.

  10. ltsh (@ltsh) said on 23rd April 2013, 14:24

    is that rectangle part of the race course or is it just an area on the track? CONFUSED

  11. Rigi (@rigi) said on 23rd April 2013, 15:16

    are there any pictures showing the layout of the new jersey track yet?

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