Raikkonen and Ricciardo given two-place grid drops

2013 Canadian Grand Prix

Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal, 2013Kimi Raikkonen and Daniel Ricciardo have been relegated two places on the grid for the Canadian Grand Prix.

Both were found to have broken the rule requiring drivers to leave the pit lane in the order they arrived at the exit during the stoppage in Q2. Both drivers were found to have left the pits in a position that was two places higher than the one they arrived in.

Pastor Maldonado, Sergio Perez and Jean-Eric Vergne were cleared of the same infraction. All were found not to have gained positions and Maldonado had lost a place.

All five drivers claimed they started outside of the fast lane because they were intending to make practice starts. The stewards ruled “this does not alleviate the requirement to leave in the
order of arrival at the end of the pit lane”.

Raikkonen was also investigated for doing the same in Q3. However the stewards deciding against punishing him after agreeing that the car he passed, that of Mark Webber, was “unduly delayed” because he did not pull away until two seconds after Q3 had begun.

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84 comments on Raikkonen and Ricciardo given two-place grid drops

  1. Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 9th June 2013, 1:37

    What would Red Bull had to do according to the rules if they wanted to line up? Their garages are right by the traffic light, so once a queue has formed they can’t really line up at the end anymore.

  2. Irejag (@irejag) said on 9th June 2013, 4:01

    They get penalties but Hamilton doesn’t get anything for reversing his car into traffic? He nearly took out Massa in Q2!

  3. macrob said on 9th June 2013, 4:20

    A penalty well deserved for Raikkonen, a lot of people seem to be blinded by Kimi’s “coolness” and “dont-give-a-****” attitude, and tend to overlook his mistakes…this time I believe he deserved the penalty, as he did in Monaco for blocking Perez (as stated by Jacques Villeneuve, he said the same thing during an interview today…).

  4. darth.mikey (@darth-mikey) said on 9th June 2013, 8:27

    So no one noticed there were other drivers doing exactly the same thing behind them ?

  5. Ali Karami (@mw-arden) said on 9th June 2013, 9:27

    what happened to Rosberg then??? he pushed 2 cars off the track, why shouldnt he be penalised?

  6. Alex Brown (@splittimes) said on 9th June 2013, 9:41

    I find it a bit rubbish that stuff like this needs policing. Just get on with it. Get to the end of the pitlane as soon as you can. If you’re too slow, boo hoo.

    • tvm (@) said on 9th June 2013, 9:45

      When was the last F1 death?

    • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 12:29

      @splittimes so suppose I blocked you on your flying lap because you “didn’t get out of the pits fast enough”, should we not police that?

      • Alex Brown (@splittimes) said on 9th June 2013, 18:09

        @vettel1 @tvm I’m not saying it should be a free-for-all in the pits, and yesterday’s display showed the rule has nothing to do with safety. But I’m quite sure that if you can’t time your exit from the pits to optimise your lap, then try harder next time. And if you get blocked on a fast lap, I maintain the argument. Its often unfortunate, but rarely intentional or unsafe, and I think its the responsibility of all parties to ensure it doesn’t happen, not just the slow cars’. It only takes a small mistiming of looking in your mirror. If a driver is on a slow lap and isn’t looking in their mirrors, isn’t off-line etc, then yes, they’re driving unsafely.

        I think, as I’ve mentioned before, the teams have too much power to complain and whine, armed with the threat of leaving the sport. These kind of infractions and penalties are relatively easy to police, with no moral losers (when it is accidental). But the punishment of genuinely dangerous driving is is almost nonexistant, because it could quickly become political, and that would mean departing sponsors.

        • tvm (@) said on 9th June 2013, 18:19

          (@splittimes) I agree with there being to many ways to complain, I personally resent the “racing line right” that Raikkonen used at last race, leave a gap; expect it to be filled, this is racing. (Perez being crazy to think he could have pulled that is another matter… :) )

          But when it comes to safety they need be hard, and I don’t agree with you that it was safe what those guys were doing, there was actually an unprotected photographer right in front of them on the pavement, there is reason for these rules, at lease one driver in the pack has severely injured a marshal when not respecting yellow. Should have been 5 places IMO.

          • Alex Brown (@splittimes) said on 9th June 2013, 18:36

            @tvm They haven’t been punished for being unsafe, but for gaining track advantage. I fully agree with you that it wasn’t safe and that the punishments should have been harsher. I was a bit offended with your comment implying I was thinking recklessly, but I totally understand you now. And my first comment wasn’t clear at all.

  7. TMF (@tmf42) said on 9th June 2013, 9:52

    Seems reasonable. However the Rosberg thing should have been investigated and was enough for a reprimand, imo. Grosjean would start on 34th position had he done the same thing.
    I hope the stewards will stop next year to take the history/status of a driver as a baseline for penalties – the point system should take care of educating drivers not the individual penalty.

    • Dion (@infinitygc) said on 9th June 2013, 11:01

      I fully agree, what Rosberg did was dangerous and could be counted as a reason for various penalties (blocking and pushing other people of the track).

    • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 12:33

      I’m not so sure: the point of a penalty is to deter the respective driver from committing the offence again and to punish a driver from ruining someone else’s weekend/putting others at risk. So if all is needed for Rosberg is a talking to prevent any repeat occurrences which may have had more serious ramifications then I’d support that.

      However, Grosjean clearly won’t take that on board and so he needs to be heavily punished because he just keeps making these stupid moves!

  8. Stretch (@stretch) said on 9th June 2013, 10:46

    Perhaps Ricciardo’s penalty was a great strategy call by Torro Rosso. When the red flag came out, wasn’t Ricciardo 14th? He starts 11th, therefore a net gain of 3 grid positions including the penaty. Can’t remember what Kimi was at that stage.

    So if your in the bottom 6 with a relatively poor time to what the car can do, and, limited on time, the strategy is to jump the rest as like Ricciardo, to increase the chance of one more lap. If they didn’t, Ricciardo might have done a Button and Webber, just missing out on starting his final lap and starting 14th. We might just see more of these handed out in future races.

  9. stefano (@alfa145) said on 9th June 2013, 12:42

    Anybody knows about tire choice for Rai, starting from 11th? Will it be still decided from quali?

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