Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal, 2013

Rate the race: 2013 Canadian Grand Prix

2013 Canadian Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

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  1. 4/10

    Ditch DRS, KERS & Racing to Delta times!!!!!

    This aint racing

    1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
      9th June 2013, 20:40

      Did you even watch the race?

      They didn’t drive to a delta time the entire race. Tey were finally able to push.

      1. @tophercheese21

        So you are happy with F1 right now then? Webber being told he can race on lap 49

        Please don’t tell me that is acceptable racing or I don’t know what race you were watching mate

        1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
          9th June 2013, 20:47

          ^ Implying he was told not to race before then.

          Why are you watching it if you don’t think it’s “acceptable racing”?

          They were pushing the whole time. Not like Spain.

      2. Martin Whitmarsh said very clearly after the race (Sky interview) that they blew Button’s race by giving him a “much too slow” target lap time for his second set of tyres.

        1. That’s just McLaren being rubbish again though.

      3. It was certainly better than the previous ones this year! The low grip nature of the circuit meant that they didn’t kill the tyres after 3 laps at full tilt! Maybe that’s the answer. Replace all track surfaces with the same stuff down at Montreal.

    2. Matt (@superf1fan)
      9th June 2013, 20:41

      Without DRS and KERS this race would have been worthy of a 1. Which would you prefer?

      1. They have proved they can overtake without the use of DRS & KERS so I would rather not have that in F1 thanks.

        We might have had alot better battles without it as with 1 detection and 2 zones the car in front has no chance to defend. Without DRS they would have the chance to defend.

        DRS is fake, it hasn’t done what it was intended to do. Too hard to implement as they keep changing how it is used at each track each season.

        DRS is great for computer games but not for real racing

        1. Why do people constantly bash DRS… It does what it was intended to do, it allows cars that are noticeably faster to get to the position they should be in. It prevents the Trulli-train effect that allowed drivers to drive purely defensively and have a massive gap break out infront. Sure there might be the odd pass for true position that is made easier with DRS, but there’s a hell of a real passes that are made possible by DRS…

        2. What this race proved was that even with Kers and DRS, overtaking was very hard to do around this track. Alonso couldn’t overtake Lewis or Webber on that massively long back straight with DRS and had to use Kers on the tiny pit straight.

          Take away DRS and Kers and the car with the better traction would be impossible to overtake. Honestly, go watch the races from about 5 years back to see why DRS and Kers are so important.

          1. @joshua-mesh

            I agree with you. I have always maintained that when the top guys go head to head, passing is not as easy or fake as people make out to be. The pursuing driver needs to get it absolutely right. We have seen this time and again. The guys at the sharp end of the grid have the experience and ability to place their cars in positions where overtaking is made very difficult.

            DRS prevents the Trulli trains of old, which I used to hate. Faster cars can dispatch the slower ones with ease, but not a car on equal pace.

        3. get over this DRS is fake crap already, just because all teams have a button to do it doesn’t mean it’s fake. remember the f-duct? that’s essentially the same thing, a drag reductions system. teams always come up with crazy methods to get an advantage, rather than letting them all do some kind of rear wing blowing that’s potentially dangerous (hand of the wheel to activate), they all get a zone and button to do it.

    3. No need for two DRS zones really. One is alright, but two makes overtaking far too easy. It was sad to see Hamilton get overtaken by Alonso so easily towards the end (right before DRS was disabled, effectively preventing Hamilton from doing the same). Can’t we just have a more powerful version of KERS instead?

      1. We’ll have that next year, don’t worry. But the driver won’t be able to use it any time he wants because it’ll work for the entire lap, together with the engine. Ferrari has put a same system in the new LaFerrari

      2. I wouldn’t describe that overtake as easy.

    4. Come on now, it was a nice race, many overtakes, nice lap times, it was great. It’s true that Vettel kinda ruined it by leading the entire race but it still was a nice race. Alonso-Hamilton and Alonso-Webber duels were the best part for me, also Massa’s overtakes and also Sutil’s funny spin.

    5. Even Horner said they pushed the whole race this time. It was actually a great race I thought (apart from their being no real battle for the lead).

    6. @bobby-balboa, I agree that the DRS spoilt several good battles but I gave it a one point above average “6” purely because the tyres were largely irrelevant and I saw very little of the “delta” driving you mention even though I think LH lost 2nd. due to an excess of caution by the team.

  2. Get ready, they said… It’s gonna be a close season, they said…

    1. @nickf12013 Alonso said if the Ferrari were slightly slower than the Red Bull, he’d beat Vettel with ease…

  3. Not good enough. 6 for me.

  4. Chris (@tophercheese21)
    9th June 2013, 20:39

    Very solid 8.

    So good to finally see the drivers able to push!
    That’s how Formula 1 should be!

    Probably didnt need the second DRS zone, but still the best race of the year.

    1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
      9th June 2013, 20:42

      meant *7*, not 8.

    2. My thoughts exactyly. not sure what these other guys were watching! awesome first few laps and a commanding drive from vet. can’t take that away from him.

    3. @tophercheese21

      “That’s how Formula 1 should be!” You really believe that F1 should be about racing from lap 49 for 21 laps when the positions are pretty much sorted??????

      “but still the best race of the year.” We clearly have very different ideas of what F1 is about

      1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
        9th June 2013, 20:53

        Well aren’t you a happy person. Lol

      2. Chris (@tophercheese21)
        9th June 2013, 21:07


        I honestly don’t know what you were watching if you thought that they had to drive to a delta time.

        Example #1: Paul Di Resta
        Started near the rear of the grid, and made only 1 pitstop, all the while making it into the points.

        Example #2: Vettel/Webber/Alonso fastest laps:
        All throughout the race these three were exchanging fastest laps of the race. Not sitting back and preserving.

        Example #3: Lewis’s rear tyres:
        When Lewis was defending from Alonso, his race engineer came on the radio and told him he can take even more life out of the tyres because the looked really good. This was towards the end of the stint, and despite having pushed hard to keep Alonso behind.

        1. silly me for watching the race with my eyes closed. I will try my hardest to watch the race before I make my comments next time.

          Do forgive me

          1. Yes, silly you for continuing not to post anything solid when Chris has been giving you good examples.

          2. So when Horner said after the race that Vettel was pushing every lap that was a lie was it?

            So when Vettel hit the wall actually trying to race what was that about… driving to a delta?

            This guy won the race.

            This race should be celebrated for actually having some drivers (not all, granted, but some) pushing to the limit for a change without the tyres falling to bits.

    4. Chris (@tophercheese21)
      9th June 2013, 20:51

      There were quite a few good battles, but my rating of the race is very strongly influenced by the fact that they weren’t having to conserve the tyres, and could actually push hard.

      Also, people rating it low just because Vettel won is just poor.

      He deserved the win. Masterful drive.

      1. I pretty much agree with you Chris, great to see drivers able to push without melting the tyres but I gave it one less point for being overly affected by DRS.

        1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
          10th June 2013, 7:22

          I agree.
          They really could have done without the DRS down the back straight.

          Overtaking is easy enough on the back straight w/o DRS.

          A single zone on the pit straight would’ve made the race an 8 for me.

  5. That awkward moment when Canada isn’t very good.

    3/10. Not much happened. There were some battles but I hardly saw them, as the director was too entertained showing the first 5 guys.

    I bet in the midfield it was a lot more entertaining.

  6. 7.
    A very 2011-esque race. Win was secure after turn 2 and good racing elsewhere.

  7. Yawn. A 5 from me. Absolutely demolishing performance from Vettel was notable, but the distinct lack of serious wheel to wheel racing for most of the race left me a bit bored.

    Tyres played little to no part in the race, which was a bonus, not because I’m fussed about the tyre debate, but hopefully, for just one race this season, we won’t have a whingefest about the tyres.

    1. It did turn out to be quite 2011 like, didn’t it @mouse_nightshirt!

  8. 5/10.

    Another DRSfest that has poisoned a perfectly good race track.

    1. I really don’t like the artificiality of DRS, but Hamilton made an interesting remark post-race. He said that after Alonso passed him — so Hamilton had the advantage of DRS — he couldn’t get back past Alonso because he was on the rev limiter. That to me says that Mercedes blew their choice of final ratios, or at least that Ferrari made a better choice. Car set-up does count when DRS is the exact same thing for every car and driver.

      1. Mr win on lose
        10th June 2013, 13:36

        Probably Mercedes didn’t expect this to happen – they were more likely to defend than to attack, given their starting positions. Maybe their high starting positions were a result of well-chosen gear ratios.
        But even if Hamilton would have overtaken Alonso, he would likely be repassed later on.

  9. Aaaaand we’re back to the mid 00s borefest…

    a solid 1

    1. @tmekt really? I found it very refreshing seeing drivers playing dare with the walls during the race for once!

      1. @vettel1

        Yeah to me it was terribly boring, some DRS overtakes but hardly any action. It’s rate the race, not rate the tyres.

        And before someone says, it’s got nothing to do with who won or didn’t won (I’m not a Vettel hater; and though I’m a Kimi fan it wouldn’t have been a slightest bit more exciting even if he had been in the place of Vettel)

        1. @tmekt well the tyres have a massive influence on the quality of the races these days so the fact drivers were actually pushing (Vettel with his brush against the wall etc) greatly improved the racing IMO. This is the tyre balance I like personally, with the ability to gain places due to alternative strategy (eg Di Resta) but with it not dominating the races with drivers being able to push (eg Vettel).

          It was nice to see drivers trading fastest lap by going all-out instead of relying purely on the state of their tyres!

    2. I agree….one driver winning is why I stopped watching after a while of intermittent watching. Haven’t seen a live race for 2 or 3 and came back to Vettel winning….

      1. @georgetuk if you have such a big problem with “one driver winning” then why are you complaining? Vetted hasn’t even won half the races this season so far!

        1. *Vettel obviously!

        2. Its not that he has one set amount this year, he is winning the championship again already and that was further consolidated this weekend, and now winning at traditionally weak track does not bode well for open competition, the manner of the winning does not make great TV either, he had a full put stop in hand!

          I understand the sport and its impressive what Red Bull has achieved but it doesn’t often make for exciting racing or a exciting season. But then neither should they artificially change it, it’s up to the others to get closer!

          Its weird to explain but you get excited for each race only for the same thing to happen and it just wears thin.

    3. I don’t and probably never will understand this point of view.
      Personally, I don’t care if one driver drove into the distance (even if it’s one I don’t particularly like) so long as it’s actually a race.
      I guess F1 will never be able to please everyone though. Let us people have our feed and we’ll get back to the crumbly tyre races again soon :)

      1. @john-h

        What is it exactly that you don’t understand with the point of view?

        I can understand that as the drivers are now closer to being able to push at 100% (I don’t know what the percentage was this weekend. 90? 95? 99?) makes it seem more “real” but to me that doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference in terms of how entertaining the race was, and neither does the fact that a certain driver won. I couldn’t care less about those things.

        The only thing that matters is that I was terribly bored watching the race. There was nothing surprising, nothing interesting and the little action that existed was either due to terrible driving standards or DRS and that doesn’t really strike to me as good “racing”.

        1. I guess it’s all about what you find interesting in F1, and each to their own I guess was my point… but I will never understand how this race was a 1.

          I personally don’t need loads of action to make a race a good one. Just snippets will do.

          Massa provided some nice battles. Sutil’s staunch defensive driving was excellent to watch, and Alonso catching Hamilton was great. The tense situation when backmarkers appeared. Ok, Drs ultimately ruined it, but it wasn’t the overtaking but the feeling as Alonso lap after lap ate into Hamilton, like we were building up to something.

          I wasn’t terribly bored, but I guess that’s why we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

  10. 5 – how can anybody rate this a 9 or 10? Too much like 2011. Seb is running away with this, RBR 1-2 in the next race.

  11. 6/10 for me. Not sure that it was worth getting up at 4am for that one.

    Great effort from Vergne btw. The intra-team battle at Toro Rosso is really hotting up.

    1. I got up at 1.30am to watch Network Ten’s coverage with AJ, Daryl and Rusty

      1. Yosi (@yoshif8tures)
        10th June 2013, 5:30

        Had an early night and watched it on the iPlayer this morning, and it wasn’t one worth losing sleep over, so good choice in the the end!

    2. Was going to do that, but ended up only just watching the replay at a more reasonable 10:30.

      Gave it an 8, purely because there was quite a bit if passing (DRS assisted or no), and the top drivers were told to do just that: drive.
      For the first time I can recall this year Hamilton was told he can take MORE out of the rear tires, yet people are calling this race a “mid-00’s borefest”. Why? Because driver’s tires aren’t falling off the cliff after 5 laps and throwing the order of positions all over the place?
      I actually enjoyed the drivers having to push quite hard, even if it meant there was less “action”.
      There were a number of really good moves set up before the DRS zones and that weren’t due to horrid tires for once.
      So I gave it an 8.

  12. Ron (@rcorporon)
    9th June 2013, 20:45

    Seb wins, great drive by FA, Sutil was fun to watch and no safety cars.

    8/10 for me.

  13. 7/10

    Everyone sooking about the tyres can eat their words. We are now back to Vettel romping away with it.

    DRS wasn’t ridiculous this year. Perfect placement of the activation point.

    1. Everyone sooking about the tyres can eat their words. We are now back to Vettel romping away with it.

      Argggh! The people moaning about the tyres don’t care if one driver romps away with it, don’t you get that! Arggghhh!
      Ok, that’s enough for today.

      1. @john-h, obviously something is wrong if the best car/driver keeps winning races, maybe we need Nascars’ pace cars every 15 minutes. Wait ,wait ,John, put the gun down, I was kidding,honest.

        1. @hohum Lol! Ok, its safe to come out. I’ve taken my medication now :)

  14. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
    9th June 2013, 20:47

    Great race IMO. Vettel – I hate to say it, but he was great today! And the battles – ALO-WEB , ALO-HAM , MAS-RAI – really entertaining! A certain fellow said Alonso isn’t in form right now. Haha, Alonso was brilliant today! Though Vettel was better (damn)

    1. No one is disputing how good Alo is, but you was calling before the race, saying Merc wont be no problem they will go back bye mid race and that he had the best pace.

      For me Alo was great in the last stint but i think Ham was more impressive Shreyas, as he kept with Alo and drove brilliant in the Merc for 2 stints. Im just happy being a Hamilton fan that he seems to be better in the race and qually today I think he is defo better than Rosberg over a season but 3 poles in a row was really getting me worried lol.

      I only started feeling better after Monaco because Ham kept with Rosberg until safety car. Not the best race imo and the commentary when they though Merc would do 1 stop lol even if when people had pitted they would of been on fresh tyres and would have always came back.

      Di Resta great drive and Sutil should notstuff off the track creep on the track he held Ham up for 3/4 of a lap. And Vettel the guy is great I never use to like him but last year and especially this year I like im more and more I would call im my 2nd fav now and I use to always cheer against im lol. Vet has been up against it this year the form is staggering imo, softer tyres have penalised them aswell the car is the quickest.

    2. Obviously, you forget about MAS-SUT, SUT-someoneelse) Race was rather good than bad.

  15. The battle out front was non-existent but I hope this is a sign of things to come – drivers seemed to be pushing pretty hard throughout the race and with Di Resta managing over 50 laps maybe, just maybe these tyres aren’t awful anymore!

    Throughout though the racing was pretty decent and the DRS not too powerful as I initially feared.

    Solid 7/8.

    1. @vettel1 I gave it a 7 too even though I told you all that it was going to be a runaway victory for Vettel.

    2. just maybe these tyres aren’t awful anymore!

      These are the same tyres that could have provoked the world war 3 after the Spanish GP, it is a solid 7/8 because we know who is the winner & the most important thing how he won it
      BTW i would like to hear to the opinion of the double standard 5 star general about the tyres after this race

      1. @tifoso1989 I’ll rephrase then, the effect of these tyres isn’t so awful anymore. I think few would argue against the fact the tyres played far less of an influence as they did in Spain or indeed any other race so far this season, so I’d like you please to elaborate how this is a case of double standards?

        1. so I’d like you please to elaborate how this is a case of double standards?

          I’m not referring to you when i said “the double standard 5 star general”, i mean Christian Horner, after all we are fans & we don’t know anything about what is happening at the track so we can made wrong judgment & that’s the whole point with discussion but i really don’t like the guys that are in charge that know the truth & try to hide it

          1. @tifoso1989 I see, my mistake! I suppose he just speaks for the team’s best interests but yea I agree I’d prefer that he stuck to his guns!

    3. What it proved was that the tyres are not as weak as certain teams made them out to be.

      1. @joshua-mesh I’m not going to jump the gun as traditionally the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is quite low degradation but the signs are improving yes!

        1. BTW i’ve watched the GP switching between the Canal+ & Sky italy & the guys were talking about some modification in the Red Bull diffuser that maybe is the secret of the Red Bull managing their tyres, i don’t think that Seb performance has something to do with the nature of the circuit, all of the race his times were unbelievable even when he was controlling the race

          1. Do you have any links on that one @tifoso1989 if at all possible, it seems quite interesting to me!

          2. Tifoso Vet was in another league, most predicted Alo would walk it which was not the case, most based it on practise which was incorrect.

            Great battle between Alo and Ham they really respect eachother a lot thesedays, they no how good 1 anothers, and Vet is just as good.

          3. @vettel1
            No sorry i don’t have links the guys were talking in live broadcast but i’m very sure in the next days the explanation will emerge , i will keep an an eye on the BBC, Sky Sport, Scrabs F1 …. & if i will find something i will post it
            I hope the battles between Lewis/Fernando and also with Mark Webber is a lesson to watch for many drivers , Alonso after the race said that he was happy with these kind of battles with intelligent drivers that even at 320 Kph he was still feeling safe

          4. @tifoso1989 that would be excellent if you could thank you – I’ll keep my eyes peeled on the round-up as well!

      2. All it means is that the tyres were OK in Montreal on a 24 degree day.

      3. Another dig at Red Bull. When will it end?

    4. I will amend my vote to an immediate 0: I cannot enjoy this race weekend anymore with the tragic news that followed the race. Up until the chequered flag, solid 7. With hindsight and the post-race events, 0.

  16. 4 for me…..not much going on during the race except for VDG messing up Webber’s race and getting a stop-go for his efforts and a run-in between the Hulk and VDG again. Rest of the race was rather run-of-the-mill in terms of genuine excitement. di Resta and Vergne were brilliant mind. Alonso and Hamilton probably extracted the maximum from their cars but the Red Bull Vettel combo was just unstoppable today.

  17. 5 from me. Boring for the most part as saving tire’s strategies dominated the race and at one point it felt they weren’t racing against each other.

    1. @zicasso I didn’t see much tyre saving honestly! It’s perhaps still not ideal for some which I can understand but personally I thought the amount of pushing was good.

      1. I remember Webber being told on his radio to hold position until the end of the stint to save his tyres

        1. That’s all? One driver gets told to save tyres and the race was greatly influenced by it? I saw Vettel touching the wall and missing a chicane, Alo avoiding wall and the guys in front exchanging best times

      2. It’s difficult to understand the massive gap Mercedes allowed Vettel to build. Red Bull and Ferrari were racing and pushing but I am not so sure about the rest. Mercedes have some work to do – more tire testing perhaps. :)
        5 is probably a bit harsh as I was a bit annoyed with LH loosing the second place. In retrospect, Vettel did a superb job and there were some fair fights which is always nice to watch.

        1. Steve McGrath (@)
          9th June 2013, 21:29

          I can’t work that out – The early gap Vettel got over the Mercs. I thought they may have been racing to a delta early on. For Lewis to get 19 laps out of the supersofts there was some sort of tyre saving going on although I don’t think the Merc is as quick with a full tank of fuel as the RBR.
          The tyre deg improvement from Mercedes is surely no coincidence!?

      3. Max what did you think of Ham today dude, I was really impressed considering he as been struggling lately Ros was really worrying me. I know its Canada and Ham is good here but Ros has also never been beat bye a teammate at this track so to be faster in most sessions and a big gap in pace all race really although Merc went diff strategy he still dominated.

        And wow at Vet like I said I never use to like the guy I now like him a lot 2nd fav perhaps behing Hammy. Everyone predicted Alo would run away with it but it didn’t happen.

        1. @danielc Hamilton had a very solid performance I thought, particularly given Rosberg’s woes! I thought he maybe could’ve pushed Alonso a bit harder towards the end but he managed his tyres well and put in a very good qualifying performance so yes he did about the best he could in the circumstances!

          It’s good to see someone appreciating a good drive also irrespective of the driver ;)

          1. Vet is a class act my friend, I don’t rate webber though as consistency is not his strong point. Id like to see Vet with a stronger teammate just to put the doubts to rest(no doubts from me).

            It would just be good to see him in a car with Alo or Ham wouldn’t it. I think if he had a 5 year run with 1 0f those he would either win 3-2 in seasons or lose 3-2, they would all be faster at diff points.

            That is the only reason I think people doubt Vet all because we have seen Alo v Ham. Its not Vet fault his records spk for their self im not sure many could have his statistics, especially qually wise maybe only Lewis.

  18. Meh, it was pretty boring.

  19. Halfway through the race I could have sworn we were back in Valencia. Very odd that Canada was such a dry affair, I mean when only the top 5 finished on the same lap, something was definitely not right. Maybe the rain caused the track to be so green that no one really wanted to push. As a result it felt like everyone was waiting for something to happen, maybe a safety car or a cloudburst. This has to be the most boring race in Montreal I have seen.

  20. Traverse (@)
    9th June 2013, 20:52

    Very good race 6/10
    I was amazed by di Resta’s ability to conserve his tyres whilst maintaining a competitive race pace, the same can’t be said for Sutil who clearly let his personal feelings for Hamilton overrule his duty as a race driver to obey the rules.

    1. very good race = 6/10? Hahahaha

      1. Traverse (@)
        9th June 2013, 22:06

        LOL! I meant “good race” but for some reason I wrote “very good”.

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