Rate the race: 2013 Canadian Grand Prix

2013 Canadian Grand Prix

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  1. Bobby Balboa (@bobby-balboa) said on 9th June 2013, 20:37

    4/10

    Ditch DRS, KERS & Racing to Delta times!!!!!

    This aint racing

    • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 9th June 2013, 20:40

      Did you even watch the race?

      They didn’t drive to a delta time the entire race. Tey were finally able to push.

    • Matt (@superf1fan) said on 9th June 2013, 20:41

      Without DRS and KERS this race would have been worthy of a 1. Which would you prefer?

      • Bobby Balboa (@bobby-balboa) said on 9th June 2013, 21:00

        They have proved they can overtake without the use of DRS & KERS so I would rather not have that in F1 thanks.

        We might have had alot better battles without it as with 1 detection and 2 zones the car in front has no chance to defend. Without DRS they would have the chance to defend.

        DRS is fake, it hasn’t done what it was intended to do. Too hard to implement as they keep changing how it is used at each track each season.

        DRS is great for computer games but not for real racing

        • skipgamer (@skipgamer) said on 9th June 2013, 21:14

          Why do people constantly bash DRS… It does what it was intended to do, it allows cars that are noticeably faster to get to the position they should be in. It prevents the Trulli-train effect that allowed drivers to drive purely defensively and have a massive gap break out infront. Sure there might be the odd pass for true position that is made easier with DRS, but there’s a hell of a real passes that are made possible by DRS…

        • Joshua Mesh (@joshua-mesh) said on 9th June 2013, 21:25

          What this race proved was that even with Kers and DRS, overtaking was very hard to do around this track. Alonso couldn’t overtake Lewis or Webber on that massively long back straight with DRS and had to use Kers on the tiny pit straight.

          Take away DRS and Kers and the car with the better traction would be impossible to overtake. Honestly, go watch the races from about 5 years back to see why DRS and Kers are so important.

          • Jay Menon (@jaymenon10) said on 10th June 2013, 4:34

            @joshua-mesh

            I agree with you. I have always maintained that when the top guys go head to head, passing is not as easy or fake as people make out to be. The pursuing driver needs to get it absolutely right. We have seen this time and again. The guys at the sharp end of the grid have the experience and ability to place their cars in positions where overtaking is made very difficult.

            DRS prevents the Trulli trains of old, which I used to hate. Faster cars can dispatch the slower ones with ease, but not a car on equal pace.

        • Todd (@foxxx) said on 10th June 2013, 3:42

          get over this DRS is fake crap already, just because all teams have a button to do it doesn’t mean it’s fake. remember the f-duct? that’s essentially the same thing, a drag reductions system. teams always come up with crazy methods to get an advantage, rather than letting them all do some kind of rear wing blowing that’s potentially dangerous (hand of the wheel to activate), they all get a zone and button to do it.

    • Adam Kibbey (@kibblesworth) said on 9th June 2013, 21:27

      No need for two DRS zones really. One is alright, but two makes overtaking far too easy. It was sad to see Hamilton get overtaken by Alonso so easily towards the end (right before DRS was disabled, effectively preventing Hamilton from doing the same). Can’t we just have a more powerful version of KERS instead?

    • Erzen (@xenif1) said on 9th June 2013, 21:36

      Come on now, it was a nice race, many overtakes, nice lap times, it was great. It’s true that Vettel kinda ruined it by leading the entire race but it still was a nice race. Alonso-Hamilton and Alonso-Webber duels were the best part for me, also Massa’s overtakes and also Sutil’s funny spin.

    • John H (@john-h) said on 9th June 2013, 23:06

      Even Horner said they pushed the whole race this time. It was actually a great race I thought (apart from their being no real battle for the lead).

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 10th June 2013, 2:42

      @bobby-balboa, I agree that the DRS spoilt several good battles but I gave it a one point above average “6” purely because the tyres were largely irrelevant and I saw very little of the “delta” driving you mention even though I think LH lost 2nd. due to an excess of caution by the team.

  2. NickF12013 (@nickf12013) said on 9th June 2013, 20:38

    Get ready, they said… It’s gonna be a close season, they said…

  3. Eggry (@eggry) said on 9th June 2013, 20:38

    Not good enough. 6 for me.

  4. Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 9th June 2013, 20:39

    Very solid 8.

    So good to finally see the drivers able to push!
    That’s how Formula 1 should be!

    Probably didnt need the second DRS zone, but still the best race of the year.

    • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 9th June 2013, 20:42

      meant *7*, not 8.

    • toddjamin (@toddjamin) said on 9th June 2013, 20:42

      My thoughts exactyly. not sure what these other guys were watching! awesome first few laps and a commanding drive from vet. can’t take that away from him.

    • Bobby Balboa (@bobby-balboa) said on 9th June 2013, 20:48

      @tophercheese21

      “That’s how Formula 1 should be!” You really believe that F1 should be about racing from lap 49 for 21 laps when the positions are pretty much sorted??????

      “but still the best race of the year.” We clearly have very different ideas of what F1 is about

      • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 9th June 2013, 20:53

        Well aren’t you a happy person. Lol

      • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 9th June 2013, 21:07

        @bobby-balboa

        I honestly don’t know what you were watching if you thought that they had to drive to a delta time.

        Example #1: Paul Di Resta
        Started near the rear of the grid, and made only 1 pitstop, all the while making it into the points.

        Example #2: Vettel/Webber/Alonso fastest laps:
        All throughout the race these three were exchanging fastest laps of the race. Not sitting back and preserving.

        Example #3: Lewis’s rear tyres:
        When Lewis was defending from Alonso, his race engineer came on the radio and told him he can take even more life out of the tyres because the looked really good. This was towards the end of the stint, and despite having pushed hard to keep Alonso behind.

        • Bobby Balboa (@bobby-balboa) said on 9th June 2013, 21:30

          silly me for watching the race with my eyes closed. I will try my hardest to watch the race before I make my comments next time.

          Do forgive me

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 9th June 2013, 22:45

            Yes, silly you for continuing not to post anything solid when Chris has been giving you good examples.

          • John H (@john-h) said on 9th June 2013, 23:14

            So when Horner said after the race that Vettel was pushing every lap that was a lie was it?

            So when Vettel hit the wall actually trying to race what was that about… driving to a delta?

            This guy won the race.

            This race should be celebrated for actually having some drivers (not all, granted, but some) pushing to the limit for a change without the tyres falling to bits.

    • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 9th June 2013, 20:51

      There were quite a few good battles, but my rating of the race is very strongly influenced by the fact that they weren’t having to conserve the tyres, and could actually push hard.

      Also, people rating it low just because Vettel won is just poor.

      He deserved the win. Masterful drive.

      • HoHum (@hohum) said on 10th June 2013, 2:53

        I pretty much agree with you Chris, great to see drivers able to push without melting the tyres but I gave it one less point for being overly affected by DRS.

        • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 10th June 2013, 7:22

          @hohum
          I agree.
          They really could have done without the DRS down the back straight.

          Overtaking is easy enough on the back straight w/o DRS.

          A single zone on the pit straight would’ve made the race an 8 for me.

  5. Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 9th June 2013, 20:41

    That awkward moment when Canada isn’t very good.

    3/10. Not much happened. There were some battles but I hardly saw them, as the director was too entertained showing the first 5 guys.

    I bet in the midfield it was a lot more entertaining.

  6. Alehud42 (@alehud42) said on 9th June 2013, 20:42

    7.
    A very 2011-esque race. Win was secure after turn 2 and good racing elsewhere.

  7. Mouse_Nightshirt (@mouse_nightshirt) said on 9th June 2013, 20:43

    Yawn. A 5 from me. Absolutely demolishing performance from Vettel was notable, but the distinct lack of serious wheel to wheel racing for most of the race left me a bit bored.

    Tyres played little to no part in the race, which was a bonus, not because I’m fussed about the tyre debate, but hopefully, for just one race this season, we won’t have a whingefest about the tyres.

  8. ECWDanSelby (@ecwdanselby) said on 9th June 2013, 20:43

    5/10.

    Another DRSfest that has poisoned a perfectly good race track.

    • Paul A (@paul-a) said on 9th June 2013, 22:25

      I really don’t like the artificiality of DRS, but Hamilton made an interesting remark post-race. He said that after Alonso passed him — so Hamilton had the advantage of DRS — he couldn’t get back past Alonso because he was on the rev limiter. That to me says that Mercedes blew their choice of final ratios, or at least that Ferrari made a better choice. Car set-up does count when DRS is the exact same thing for every car and driver.

      • Mr win on lose said on 10th June 2013, 13:36

        Probably Mercedes didn’t expect this to happen – they were more likely to defend than to attack, given their starting positions. Maybe their high starting positions were a result of well-chosen gear ratios.
        But even if Hamilton would have overtaken Alonso, he would likely be repassed later on.

  9. tmekt (@tmekt) said on 9th June 2013, 20:43

    Aaaaand we’re back to the mid 00s borefest…

    a solid 1

    • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 20:50

      @tmekt really? I found it very refreshing seeing drivers playing dare with the walls during the race for once!

      • tmekt (@tmekt) said on 9th June 2013, 20:58

        @vettel1

        Yeah to me it was terribly boring, some DRS overtakes but hardly any action. It’s rate the race, not rate the tyres.

        And before someone says, it’s got nothing to do with who won or didn’t won (I’m not a Vettel hater; and though I’m a Kimi fan it wouldn’t have been a slightest bit more exciting even if he had been in the place of Vettel)

        • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 10th June 2013, 15:53

          @tmekt well the tyres have a massive influence on the quality of the races these days so the fact drivers were actually pushing (Vettel with his brush against the wall etc) greatly improved the racing IMO. This is the tyre balance I like personally, with the ability to gain places due to alternative strategy (eg Di Resta) but with it not dominating the races with drivers being able to push (eg Vettel).

          It was nice to see drivers trading fastest lap by going all-out instead of relying purely on the state of their tyres!

    • GeorgeTuk (@georgetuk) said on 9th June 2013, 22:13

      I agree….one driver winning is why I stopped watching after a while of intermittent watching. Haven’t seen a live race for 2 or 3 and came back to Vettel winning….

      • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 22:31

        @georgetuk if you have such a big problem with “one driver winning” then why are you complaining? Vetted hasn’t even won half the races this season so far!

        • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 22:58

          *Vettel obviously!

        • GeorgeTuk (@georgetuk) said on 10th June 2013, 11:51

          Its not that he has one set amount this year, he is winning the championship again already and that was further consolidated this weekend, and now winning at traditionally weak track does not bode well for open competition, the manner of the winning does not make great TV either, he had a full put stop in hand!

          I understand the sport and its impressive what Red Bull has achieved but it doesn’t often make for exciting racing or a exciting season. But then neither should they artificially change it, it’s up to the others to get closer!

          Its weird to explain but you get excited for each race only for the same thing to happen and it just wears thin.

    • John H (@john-h) said on 9th June 2013, 23:19

      I don’t and probably never will understand this point of view.
      Personally, I don’t care if one driver drove into the distance (even if it’s one I don’t particularly like) so long as it’s actually a race.
      I guess F1 will never be able to please everyone though. Let us people have our feed and we’ll get back to the crumbly tyre races again soon :)

      • tmekt (@tmekt) said on 10th June 2013, 0:24

        @john-h

        What is it exactly that you don’t understand with the point of view?

        I can understand that as the drivers are now closer to being able to push at 100% (I don’t know what the percentage was this weekend. 90? 95? 99?) makes it seem more “real” but to me that doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference in terms of how entertaining the race was, and neither does the fact that a certain driver won. I couldn’t care less about those things.

        The only thing that matters is that I was terribly bored watching the race. There was nothing surprising, nothing interesting and the little action that existed was either due to terrible driving standards or DRS and that doesn’t really strike to me as good “racing”.

        • John H (@john-h) said on 10th June 2013, 0:50

          I guess it’s all about what you find interesting in F1, and each to their own I guess was my point… but I will never understand how this race was a 1.

          I personally don’t need loads of action to make a race a good one. Just snippets will do.

          Massa provided some nice battles. Sutil’s staunch defensive driving was excellent to watch, and Alonso catching Hamilton was great. The tense situation when backmarkers appeared. Ok, Drs ultimately ruined it, but it wasn’t the overtaking but the feeling as Alonso lap after lap ate into Hamilton, like we were building up to something.

          I wasn’t terribly bored, but I guess that’s why we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

  10. Ginger (@ginger) said on 9th June 2013, 20:44

    5 – how can anybody rate this a 9 or 10? Too much like 2011. Seb is running away with this, RBR 1-2 in the next race.

  11. Tyler (@tdog) said on 9th June 2013, 20:45

    6/10 for me. Not sure that it was worth getting up at 4am for that one.

    Great effort from Vergne btw. The intra-team battle at Toro Rosso is really hotting up.

    • William (@william) said on 10th June 2013, 3:15

      I got up at 1.30am to watch Network Ten’s coverage with AJ, Daryl and Rusty

      • Yosi (@yoshif8tures) said on 10th June 2013, 5:30

        Had an early night and watched it on the iPlayer this morning, and it wasn’t one worth losing sleep over, so good choice in the the end!

    • nackavich (@nackavich) said on 10th June 2013, 23:28

      Was going to do that, but ended up only just watching the replay at a more reasonable 10:30.

      Gave it an 8, purely because there was quite a bit if passing (DRS assisted or no), and the top drivers were told to do just that: drive.
      For the first time I can recall this year Hamilton was told he can take MORE out of the rear tires, yet people are calling this race a “mid-00’s borefest”. Why? Because driver’s tires aren’t falling off the cliff after 5 laps and throwing the order of positions all over the place?
      I actually enjoyed the drivers having to push quite hard, even if it meant there was less “action”.
      There were a number of really good moves set up before the DRS zones and that weren’t due to horrid tires for once.
      So I gave it an 8.

  12. Ron (@rcorporon) said on 9th June 2013, 20:45

    Seb wins, great drive by FA, Sutil was fun to watch and no safety cars.

    8/10 for me.

  13. Resort2Spa (@resort2spa) said on 9th June 2013, 20:46

    7/10

    Everyone sooking about the tyres can eat their words. We are now back to Vettel romping away with it.

    DRS wasn’t ridiculous this year. Perfect placement of the activation point.

  14. Shreyas Mohanty (@) said on 9th June 2013, 20:47

    Great race IMO. Vettel – I hate to say it, but he was great today! And the battles – ALO-WEB , ALO-HAM , MAS-RAI – really entertaining! A certain fellow said Alonso isn’t in form right now. Haha, Alonso was brilliant today! Though Vettel was better (damn)

    • clappy (@danielc) said on 9th June 2013, 21:04

      No one is disputing how good Alo is, but you was calling before the race, saying Merc wont be no problem they will go back bye mid race and that he had the best pace.

      For me Alo was great in the last stint but i think Ham was more impressive Shreyas, as he kept with Alo and drove brilliant in the Merc for 2 stints. Im just happy being a Hamilton fan that he seems to be better in the race and qually today I think he is defo better than Rosberg over a season but 3 poles in a row was really getting me worried lol.

      I only started feeling better after Monaco because Ham kept with Rosberg until safety car. Not the best race imo and the commentary when they though Merc would do 1 stop lol even if when people had pitted they would of been on fresh tyres and would have always came back.

      Di Resta great drive and Sutil should notstuff off the track creep on the track he held Ham up for 3/4 of a lap. And Vettel the guy is great I never use to like him but last year and especially this year I like im more and more I would call im my 2nd fav now and I use to always cheer against im lol. Vet has been up against it this year the form is staggering imo, softer tyres have penalised them aswell the car is the quickest.

    • Slava (@slava) said on 10th June 2013, 7:54

      Obviously, you forget about MAS-SUT, SUT-someoneelse) Race was rather good than bad.

  15. Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 20:48

    The battle out front was non-existent but I hope this is a sign of things to come – drivers seemed to be pushing pretty hard throughout the race and with Di Resta managing over 50 laps maybe, just maybe these tyres aren’t awful anymore!

    Throughout though the racing was pretty decent and the DRS not too powerful as I initially feared.

    Solid 7/8.

    • Pennyroyal tea (@peartree) said on 9th June 2013, 21:06

      @vettel1 I gave it a 7 too even though I told you all that it was going to be a runaway victory for Vettel.

    • Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 9th June 2013, 21:18

      just maybe these tyres aren’t awful anymore!

      These are the same tyres that could have provoked the world war 3 after the Spanish GP, it is a solid 7/8 because we know who is the winner & the most important thing how he won it
      BTW i would like to hear to the opinion of the double standard 5 star general about the tyres after this race

      • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 21:27

        @tifoso1989 I’ll rephrase then, the effect of these tyres isn’t so awful anymore. I think few would argue against the fact the tyres played far less of an influence as they did in Spain or indeed any other race so far this season, so I’d like you please to elaborate how this is a case of double standards?

        • Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 9th June 2013, 21:54

          so I’d like you please to elaborate how this is a case of double standards?

          I’m not referring to you when i said “the double standard 5 star general”, i mean Christian Horner, after all we are fans & we don’t know anything about what is happening at the track so we can made wrong judgment & that’s the whole point with discussion but i really don’t like the guys that are in charge that know the truth & try to hide it

    • Joshua Mesh (@joshua-mesh) said on 9th June 2013, 21:30

      What it proved was that the tyres are not as weak as certain teams made them out to be.

      • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 21:36

        @joshua-mesh I’m not going to jump the gun as traditionally the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is quite low degradation but the signs are improving yes!

        • Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 9th June 2013, 21:59

          BTW i’ve watched the GP switching between the Canal+ & Sky italy & the guys were talking about some modification in the Red Bull diffuser that maybe is the secret of the Red Bull managing their tyres, i don’t think that Seb performance has something to do with the nature of the circuit, all of the race his times were unbelievable even when he was controlling the race

          • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 22:10

            Do you have any links on that one @tifoso1989 if at all possible, it seems quite interesting to me!

          • clappy (@danielc) said on 9th June 2013, 22:12

            Tifoso Vet was in another league, most predicted Alo would walk it which was not the case, most based it on practise which was incorrect.

            Great battle between Alo and Ham they really respect eachother a lot thesedays, they no how good 1 anothers, and Vet is just as good.

          • Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 9th June 2013, 23:18

            @vettel1
            No sorry i don’t have links the guys were talking in live broadcast but i’m very sure in the next days the explanation will emerge , i will keep an an eye on the BBC, Sky Sport, Scrabs F1 …. & if i will find something i will post it
            @danielc
            I hope the battles between Lewis/Fernando and also with Mark Webber is a lesson to watch for many drivers , Alonso after the race said that he was happy with these kind of battles with intelligent drivers that even at 320 Kph he was still feeling safe

          • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 9th June 2013, 23:22

            @tifoso1989 that would be excellent if you could thank you – I’ll keep my eyes peeled on the round-up as well!

      • HoHum (@hohum) said on 10th June 2013, 3:10

        All it means is that the tyres were OK in Montreal on a 24 degree day.

      • John H (@john-h) said on 10th June 2013, 12:04

        Another dig at Red Bull. When will it end?

    • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 10th June 2013, 20:05

      I will amend my vote to an immediate 0: I cannot enjoy this race weekend anymore with the tragic news that followed the race. Up until the chequered flag, solid 7. With hindsight and the post-race events, 0.

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