Pirelli wants solution to testing with “obsolete” cars

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Pirelli: F1 must learn lessons (Sky)

Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery: “Of course it doesn’t take away our need to be able to test in representative conditions with representative cars. We’re still running round in obsolete, almost museum pieces, trying to do our job so there’s still a lot of work to be done to allow us to do what we call representative testing going forward.”

Pirelli may take FIA to court (The Telegraph)

“Senior figures at Pirelli are understood to be furious after they were hauled before the International Tribunal. The Italian manufacturer?s lawyer, Dominique Dumas, was adamant on Thursday that there were no legal grounds for them being in Paris at all given the terms of their contract with the governing body.”

Eric Boullier on the British Grand Prix (Lotus)

“We?re certainly not going to let two weekends of poor results stop us in our efforts. We have a very reasonable package to fit to the E21 for Silverstone – with a number of elements which should help with our performance – and we have plenty of other upgrades to come later in the season too.”

F1 With Added Energy (Red Bull)

“Oddly ?ǣ though perhaps understandable given the level of interest ?ǣ Renault took the opportunity today to also demonstrate what the engine will sound like with a simulated lap of the Marina Bay circuit in Singapore. As the engine manufacturers have insisted all along, it sounded distinctively like an F1 engine and not, as the naysayers had suggested, like a lawnmower.”

The changing face of McLaren F1 car liveries (McLaren)

“McLaren had never held true to the concept of adhering to a singular racing livery. When McLaren made its Formula 1 debut at the 1966 Monaco Grand Prix, its Ford V8-propelled M2B was famously painted white with a green central stripe.”

Why Le Mans beats Formula One (The Telegraph)

“F1′s are so stifling that the key skills are in exploiting the loopholes and having a good legal department. Le Mans’ rules, on the other hand, are also prescriptive, but enticingly loose. So you won’t break them just by being different. All F1′s recent innovations have been to improve the spectacle (and largely for TV, not for the faithful in the bleachers). KERS, DFS [sic], tyres with the life of a butterfly and ‘pit stop strategy’ all add interest, but diminish the purity of what still bills itself as the pinnacle of the sport.”

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Nissan ZEOD RC, 2013

This rather cheesy image is of the all-electric Nissan ZEOD RC which the Japanese manufacturer will race at Le Mans next year in the Garage 56 category for experimental cars.

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Comment of the day

Manule thinks “good faith” wasn’t a good reason for the International Tribunal to go easy on Mercedes:

I find this so called ??punishment? no punishment at all.

First of all, let?s cast off all this “in good faith” nonsense. Mercedes perfectly knew what they were doing, i.e. breaching the Sporting Code, hence they (and not Pirelli) made all possible efforts for this test to remain secret.

The whole purpose of a punishment is not to cancel benefit gained by a perpetrator, it is to ensure that this will not happen again, and to give an object lesson to those who are considering doing the same crime. From this point of view, it is a grave mistake to let the Mercedes escape scot-free.

What the International Tribunal is projecting with this verdict is that it is easily bullied, because it is all too obvious that this decision was made with the fear of Mercedes walking away in mind.

Banned from the ??Young Guns Test?? As many have said before, any team would swap it for a 1000km sole test with both racing drivers and cars. [...]

The FIA International Tribunal made a complete joke of themselves, they should have either acquitted Merc from all charges, or deal a proper punishment for breaking the Sporting Code, no matter in what faith. What they did is neither here nor there, and it sends very bad signals on many levels.
Manule

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72 comments on Pirelli wants solution to testing with “obsolete” cars

  1. Bendanarama (@bendana) said on 22nd June 2013, 11:02

    DFS? That’s been working quite well sofa.

  2. Dan Pearson (@d-pearson) said on 22nd June 2013, 14:21

    I think if Pirelli are pushing for the testing, testing is very expensive, why not have the last team in the standards (Currently Marussia) as the dedicated test team for a season which Pirelli would pay the testing for.

    It would help the smaller teams, give a current car for testing and make the back field more interesting!

    There would need to be a cap, but it would make it more exciting in my opinion!

    • chiliz00 (@chiliz00) said on 25th June 2013, 8:42

      But I don’t think this will go down well coz if the bottom teams are pretty close in performance and only the bottom team is allowed to test, this would give that bottom team a free kick so to speak coz that test would allow them to further develop their car and in theory would result in them leapfrogging that next worst team. Imagine how Caterham would feel should Marrusia be afforded the opportunity to test and then leapfrogged them as a result…

  3. HiPn0tIc (@hipn0tic) said on 22nd June 2013, 20:50

    I’m sick of this, each team should choose their tyre manufacturer.
    Pirelli and Mercedes should stick together…

  4. BasCB (@bascb) said on 23rd June 2013, 13:31

    Today I ran into what Ferrari thinks of the verdict. I must say that the Horse Whisperer is back to his best ranting self. He sounds more like a Ferrari Fanboy than the worst of them that I have ever seen here.

    Seriously, Ferrari complaining about a team getting off lightly after clearly braking the rules? They must have forgot about the last previous instance when a team was investigated for that before this testing thing (Hockenheim 2010 ring a bell?).

    I could understand Red Bull saying this (they have actually been far more philosophical about it, good job), but its a bit rich coming from Ferrari who tested in 2 secret confidential test sessions for Pirelli themselves as well, where no one really knows the details of what advantage could have been gained really.

  5. Pennyroyal tea (@peartree) said on 25th June 2013, 5:10

    Why LeMans beats F1? It’s only once a year? Ignorant article, that jornalist has no idea or whatsoever about LeMans, that said the Audi made sure they wouldn’t win by too much….

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