Red Bull had ‘minutes’ notice Webber was leaving

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Mark Webber, Red Bull, Silverstone, 2013In the round-up: Red Bull team principal Christian Horner learned that Mark Webber was leaving the team just a few minutes before the announcement was made.

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Mark Webber leaves it late to tell Red Bull he is quitting F1 (The Guardian)

“‘An hour’s notice is a bit short,’ Horner said on Thursday night. After consulting his mobile phone he confirmed that in fact it was shorter than that, and a matter of only a few minutes.”

Christian Horner: “He?s obviously decided that the timing is right…” (Adam Cooper’s F1 Blog)

“‘The guys at the factory are a bit more disappointed that they read it on the internet rather than heard something direct.’ Asked whether Webber had the option to stay at RBR he said: ‘We never got into that discussion.'”

Mark Webber Q&A ?ǣ 2014 and beyond (Mark Webber)

“Did you have options to stay in F1?
MW: Yes but since Formula One as a category wasn?t on my radar for 2014, they weren?t a consideration for me.”

Sebastian Vettel gives his full approval for Kimi Raikkonen to replace Mark Webber as his team-mate at Red Bull (The Independent)

“I think nobody could have a problem with Kimi as team-mate, except for Perez.”

Vettel keen for say on new team mate (BBC)

“I don’t know his situation in Lotus but we get along well. We have never been team-mates and I am not deciding whether he will be joining the team or not.”

Mark Webber a rare breed in F1 (The Telegraph)

Tom Cary: “He’s very down to earth; he’s actually one of the very few drivers that has chosen to make his base in the UK. He’s a full-on taxpayer here and there are no airs and graces about him – he’s not sauntered off to Monaco and stashing his money away.”

Raikkonen drops Red Bull hint (Sky)

“On the subject of being handed a free rein, Raikkonen said: ‘It’s one of the key points. Obviously you want to have a good car, but there are lots of small things that have to be right for yourself. They might sound like stupid, small things but I’ve been long enough in the business to know what I want and if those things aren’t right then that decision might be different.'”

2013 British Grand Prix – Thursday Press Conference (FIA)

Fernando Alonso: “This year we are a little bit dominated by the tyres? performance and the tyre issues that we face every weekend. Some weekends are hit by some tyres against the others but it seems that if you have a weekend where you make the tyre work properly and last properly throughout the race you have a better chance to win, so despite the performance of the car in the high speed corners or low speed corners, I think it will be a weekend over the next couple of races to make the tyres work in the maximum performance in qualifying and in the race, because sometimes you hit one of the two and it?s not enough so we need to improve in that aspect.”

Esteban Gutierrez, Sauber, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal, 2013Designer Morris to leave Sauber (Autosport)

“Head of concept design Eric Gandelin will take over the role at the start of next month, although the timing of [Matt] Morris’s departure from the squad has yet to be finalised.”

Q&A with Force India?s Adrian Sutil (F1)

“I wouldn’t say I’m more unlucky than others, but it?s true that there have been some races in the past where I should have achieved better results. Things like in Montreal shouldn’t happen. There was a chance to overtake Bottas as he had a bad exit out of the corner, but it didn’t work out and I unfortunately spun. Next time I would wait and overtake him on the straight because the speed was in my car.”

Bernie Ecclestone waives Nurburgring’s GP fee (The Times of India)

“Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone has waived the ??14 million (US$18m, ??11m) entry fee to allow the insolvent company which owns the Nurburgring race track to host the German Grand Prix on July 7, according to a report on Wednesday.”

McLaren and Honda rekindle relationship that was winning formula (FT, registration required)

“The Japanese carmaker will supply McLaren?s 2015 engines from its Tochigi research and development facility in Japan. Honda will have some of its people embedded at McLaren headquarters in Woking, Surrey, but the hub of the research and design will be carried out in Japan.”

MotorSportsTalk?s predictions: British GP (NBC)

“Most to prove: Giedo van der Garde. Montreal was a pretty horrendous race for him as he collided twice with drivers who were trying to lap his Caterham. He needs to stay out of the stewards? office this weekend.”

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Comment of the day

@Girts on the all-important question of who will take Webber’s place at Red Bull:

I believe that Raikkonen is a serious candidate. I think that his dislike for PR stuff often gets exaggerated (partly by himself) and also that his attitude has changed after the sabbatical. Even before that, he spent eight years with teams that he theoretically should hate, according to his image.

I?m not saying that Red Bull?s PR events are going to make Raikkonen happy but he certainly wants to be in a car that?s capable of winning championships and I don?t think Lotus will ever be able to give him one, mainly because of the lack of money and also the recent loss of James Allison.
@Girts

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71 comments on Red Bull had ‘minutes’ notice Webber was leaving

  1. sumedh said on 28th June 2013, 6:23

    So, Vettel ignores Horner’s orders and overtakes Webber. Webber doesn’t inform Horner until the last minute and then informs only because “contractually, he should”.
    Vettel has full support of Marko. Webber discussed everything in advance with Dietrich Mateschitz.

    So what role does Horner play in Red Bull? Does Newey at least respect Horner’s authority?

    • Boomerang said on 28th June 2013, 19:21

      Yeah, Adrian is the only one, he took his role after the Malaysian GP. Only Horner knows why :-/

  2. sumedh said on 28th June 2013, 6:44

    I am noticing a curious trend with Vettel’s team-mates. None of Sebastian’s teammates have been able to find a seat on the grid immediately after they left their current team. They either had to leave F1 entirely, or sit out and come back after a hiatus.

    1) He first partnered Nick Heidfeld at BMW in 2007. Heidfeld continued with BMW for another 2 years before he had to sit out of the sport for some time after which he came back in end 2010 with Sauber.
    2) He then partnered Liuzzi at Toro Rosso in 2007. Scott Speed continued only till end of 2007 after which he had to sit out as a test driver for 1.5 years after which he came back in in end 2009 with Force India.
    3) He then partnered Bourdias at Toro Rosso in 2008. Bourdias continued till mid 2009 after which he was replaced. He never came back.
    4) He then partnered Webber at Red Bull. Webber is also leaving F1 at the end of 2013.

    Wonder if the same fate awaits Sebastian’s next team mate.

  3. MDian said on 28th June 2013, 7:42

    Little notice? Is 6 months not enough!!! Red Bull have really disappointed me in recent years with the way in which they’ve handled situations and Webber has been very professional with them considering. How anyone can trust Red Bull boss I do not know, he only has eyes for Vettel, lets face it!

    Kimi is a good choice for Red Bull, he shares that same ‘trendy’ outlook as the team do, similar to that DG dude that dresses funny and drives rally cars around warehouses getting nowhere. That does however leave me in a predicament, I like Kimi, want him to do well, but not at Red Bull, hmmmm.

    Good luck to Webber though, he deserves to join a team like Porsche where the correct level of respect will be offered. I hope he has a fantastic race at Silverstone this weekend (and maybe knocks Vettel off the tracking too!)

  4. Girts (@girts) said on 28th June 2013, 7:44

    Many thanks for the COTD, I highly appreciate that!

    It’s also noteworthy that Kimi Raikkonen took his first-ever pole position at Nurburgring on this day 10 years ago. Here’s his pole position lap:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bnOK8Ky92M

  5. Jason (@jason12) said on 28th June 2013, 8:10

    Wonder if Vettel woulf be as welcoming if it was Hamilton joining the team…. :)

    • Manished said on 28th June 2013, 8:55

      looking at how lewis fares against rosberg that was outperformed by webber last time, i doubt he needs to wary of him. ROFL

      • Nick (@npf1) said on 28th June 2013, 10:55

        Webber and Rosberg drove together in a terrible Williams in Rosberg’s debut season. That’s like saying Raikkonen is no match for Alonso, because he lost out to Massa in the standings in 2008, and look at how Alonso is beating Massa now..

  6. coefficient (@coefficient) said on 28th June 2013, 8:58

    Good God, does Horner have to moan about everything? In my opinion he deserved no more than to be told of Webber’s decision precisely when Webber was good and ready as he has had all the good will he can expect from Mark over the years. Malaysia was just the straw that broke the camels back.

  7. andae23 (@andae23) said on 28th June 2013, 9:47

    Good to see the Nürburgring’s entry fee being cut: I’ve been there a lot watching old-timer races and the 2011 GP was the very first one I visited. It’s a fantastic circuit, challenging for the drivers, many places where you can watch the cars from and the infrastructure is not too shabby either.

    I do think Ecclestone’s quote in that article is a bit odd: “I appreciate Nuerburgring and its history [...] I’d love for the Nuerburgring track to keep hosting the race and continue the Formula One tradition.” Didn’t he say a few days ago ‘historic’ tracks like Monza might make way for circuit in ‘new markets’? Can’t find the article anymore.

    • Sparckus (@sparckus) said on 28th June 2013, 10:08

      Bernie is trying to keep the Germans happy for some reason ;)

    • Nick (@npf1) said on 28th June 2013, 11:04

      It’s all politics with Bernie. As a business major, he is a prime example of an (unethical, but) successful entrepreneur. I highly doubt Bernie wakes up in the morning thinking ‘money money money, gotta get some more money, gotta kick the European races off the calendar for more money!’, but it is likely he looks at things from a financial level. If he threatens to cut the European season, he knows organizers will look at the possibilities to come up with the money for his demands, and let’s not act like all race organizers are angels.

      If you throw an article like this one through Google Translate, you’ll read some of Monza’s directors have had complaints filled for knowingly letting safety issues exist and financial offenses.

      • HoHum (@hohum) said on 28th June 2013, 14:05

        Maybe those Monza directors would have fixed those issues and avoided the financial offenses if they had been able to make a reasonable return from holding a F1 race.

  8. Melchior (@melchior) said on 28th June 2013, 10:13

    I think that Horner got all the notice that he deserved from Webber considering the way that Webber has been treated by the Horner and Marko Et Al.
    I suspect that the decision was already made that Webber wouldn’t have been re signed for next season even if he wanted to stay on.

  9. DavidS (@davids) said on 28th June 2013, 11:18

    How many of us didn’t tell our boss we were thinking of leaving, and then handed in notice once everything was finalised?

    I think that maybe Porsche brought forward the announcement, and the only thing Mark could do was text Horner just before it happened.

  10. James (@jaymz) said on 28th June 2013, 16:18

    I quite like vettel sometimes. He seems humble and has a good sense of humour.

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