Mercedes won’t struggle, reckons Webber

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Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, Silverstone, 2013In the round-up: Mark Webber says Mercedes won’t have a repeat of their tyre problems from earlier in the season thanks to their test for Pirelli.

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Webber doubts Mercedes will fade (Autosport)

“The last time they raced on this type of circuit was Barcelona, and they got lapped. That is not going to happen. I think they did pretty well at that test, to be fair. They have moved the bar up for themselves a big chunk on Sundays – anyway… that is the way it went.”

Ferrari worse and worse – Alonso (BBC)

“I don’t want to complain anything about Pirelli. There were others complaining about Pirelli when they were not performing well [a reference to Red Bull]. Now we are not performing well because the car is not performing well, because here on the track, all of us, maybe we are not doing the job well enough.”

Button to stick with McLaren (The Telegraph)

“You cannot look at this year and think, ‘It?s time to get out’. That?s not the right way of looking at it. This team will win a championship over the next few years and I want to be here for that.”

Lotus E21 – FIA suspension clarification (F1)

“After Silverstone, Lotus are expected to make a minor modification to the E21′s suspension for the next round in Germany after a rule clarification from the FIA, who were asked by a rival team to confirm the Lotus set-up’s legality.”

Passive DRD fails to meet Raikkonen’s expectations (ESPN)

“If we never try things we will never learn anything and we will never start using things. We don’t have test and you have to use them at some point. I don’t really see that we have much to lose because without trying something new and finding a chunk of time we will not catch the guys in front of us. We try to do everything that we can.”

Williams still fighting at 600 (Reuters)

Bernie Ecclestone: “We wouldn’t have a Formula One without Frank Williams. He’s part of the structure. He’s still with us, fighting on as usual.”

Don?t be so wet blasts Bernie Ecclestone (Daily Express)

“They need to change the regulations to ensure this sort of thing does not happen. The FIA and the teams need to sort it out. People pay good money, and there is a television audience to think about, too.”

Webber planned F1 exit before Christmas (The Sydney Morning Herald)

“He was adamant that Vettel ignoring team orders and taking the victory at the Malaysian GP that Webber was set to score had no bearing on his move to Porsche, which is returning to sports car racing after a long absence, targeting success in the Le Mans 24 Hours classic. ‘No, it wasn’t [the reason],’ he said. ‘There are lots of people I had Christmas with who can tell a different story.’”

Paddy Lowe back in the groove with Mercedes after cutting short leave (The Guardian)

“At McLaren I had effectively been technical director for eight years. I needed to progress. The organisation needed a progression, too. There are plenty of engineers there who have their own ambitions. It didn’t feel right for me to stay for another period. And then an opportunity arose so I took it.”

Grand Prix Replay (VT Old Boys)

“The director, Keith Mackenzie, wanted the ability to record all cameras for replay, and the setup below was a cost effective solution with 15 VHS machines, thirteen to record (one per camera), one for replay and a switchable input machine for record overlap.”

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@Osvaldas31 has spotted a familiar pattern:

It happens every year from 2011 onwards: season starts with rapidly degrading tyres, some teams and drivers start to critisize the tyres continously, Pirelli then reacts and starts to bring conservative tyre choices from the middle of the season and teams start to understand how to preserve tyres better.

Result: races go from entertaining (which isn?t always very good for fans) to becoming really boring (which is worse then races with severe tyre degradation). Pirelli just struggle to find the ballance and react too sensitive.

For example, last years Hungarian Grand Prix tyre choice was spot on, but this year they decided to bring medium and hard tyres instead of medium and soft. It means, that races will become boring in the middle of the season, not at the end of it.
@Osvaldas31

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41 comments on Mercedes won’t struggle, reckons Webber

  1. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 30th June 2013, 0:15

    “I don’t want to complain anything about Pirelli. There were others complaining about Pirelli when they were not performing well [a reference to Red Bull]. Now we are not performing well because the car is not performing well, because here on the track, all of us, maybe we are not doing the job well enough.”

    What a breath of fresh air.

  2. Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 30th June 2013, 0:25

    Again with people watching rain for 90 minutes? and it’s a massive story?

    Imagine how people felt in the US Open in the last few years when the men’s final was re-scheduled on a monday (working day) instead of sunday because there was rain and it was suspended…

    It’s practice for crying out loud… F1 teams are clever enough not to waste time and money driving around for 90 minutes when the conditions are not right and there’s absolutely no point at all. There’s a lot of other things that need to be fixed before that… people trying to save tyres and not running enough at qualy, that’s a bigger problem !

    Unless they follow Rosberg’s suggestion at the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix and lend the Safety Cars to the drivers to have a go even on a flooded track, it’s hard to change much…

  3. HoHum (@hohum) said on 30th June 2013, 0:39

    Poor Lotus, a neat and tidy arrangement will have to be undone because of a nit-picking rule no doubt imposed to outlaw some previous diabollically complicated and expensive idea designed to get around another design restriction. I’ts Red-Tape and it is spoiling F1.

    • Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 30th June 2013, 0:53

      F1 itself is spoilt, that why your average punter is losing interest

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 30th June 2013, 1:10

      It’s not as if Lotus ran afoul of an uncertain rule. Martin Brundle explained this one on the coverage last night: teams are only allowed to have three pick-up points connecting the suspension to the front wheels. Lotus’ solution is in violation of that rule, which has existed for years.

  4. HoHum (@hohum) said on 30th June 2013, 0:55

    I also sympathise with Alonso/Ferrari, after;
    1. Coming up with a new design using CFD
    2. Building a 60% scale model
    3.testing it in the windtunnel
    4. computing the results up to 100%
    5. building a 100% scale piece
    6. Installing and testing during pre-race practice
    Only to find out that none of the above has been of any use.
    Honestly if F1 had these design and testing restrictions in the 1950′s we would still have the engine in the front.

  5. Jon Sandor (@jonsan) said on 30th June 2013, 1:07

    COTS was ridiculous. Was the second half of 2012 really “boring”? If so some people will never be satisfied.

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 30th June 2013, 1:12

      @jonsan, sssssshhh or you will be sent to the sinbin. COTD is always right.

    • Guilherme (@guilherme) said on 30th June 2013, 1:29

      @jonsan Didn’t you know that “Japan, Korea and India” is sinonimous with “second half of the season”?!

    • Tyler (@tdog) said on 30th June 2013, 1:30

      The other thing which the COTD ignores is that the teams’ understanding of the tyres evolves over the course of the season, so its hardly surprising that tyre degradation is less of an issue in the latter half.

      The comment also confirms my view that Pirelli can’t win whatever they do, so personally I’ll ignore the complaining and just enjoy another great season of F1.

      • Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 30th June 2013, 5:43

        Didn’t you know that “Japan, Korea and India” is sinonimous with “second half of the season”?!

        Yeah, those three races were boring as hell, but the next three races (Abu Dhabi, USA, and Brazil) were all amazing, so it makes up for the Vettel dominance boredom of the 3 races before it. ;-)

    • TMF (@tmf42) said on 30th June 2013, 7:15

      Agree – one of the best races was Austin and Pirelli made the most conservative choice there. Pirelli can’t please everybody so I hope they’ve learned how to approach a new season PR-wise and do it better next year.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 30th June 2013, 8:23

      I think there’s a good point in the COTD. Its very much true that we have seen the ritual go like this for a couple of years now (everyone being in the wild first, then some start to get on top, some complain – including the media – Pirelli is more conservative for the later rounds, at the same time teams master the tyres – and then people start to complain about the races not being full of action).

      The part I think you disagree with is more the part where its mentioned the races get boring. I agree with you @jonsan, those races were hardly boring (although Japan and India were a bit of a lull).

    • Girts (@girts) said on 30th June 2013, 10:46

      I agree that there were some exciting races in the second half of the 2012 season but many factors, such as weather, championship standings or a new circuit contributed to the entertainment. I’d say that those races were enjoyable despite the conservative tyre choices, not because of them. I understand that Pirelli have a tough job as it’s not easy to find the right balance. But it’s also pretty obvious that the image of the company is their top priority and “the show” and everything else comes after that.

  6. HoHum (@hohum) said on 30th June 2013, 1:09

    If Bernie wants the teams to put on a show for the TV audience perhaps he should give them a bigger share of the revenue so they can afford a spare car as teams always had before Bernie/CVC started taking 50% of the revenue away from the teams.

    • Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 30th June 2013, 1:42

      How about 3 cars allowed in P1/P2, using the spare chassis and the teams young driver(s). That way costs are kept down as the teams are already there, they run their new parts and get experience for drivers. Oh and as a bonus, the people that are actually keeping the sport alive “The Spectator” are getting what they pay for.

  7. SatchelCharge (@satchelcharge) said on 30th June 2013, 1:49

    Damn would I like Button to retire.

    • Jimmy Hearn (@alebelly74) said on 30th June 2013, 5:07

      @Brian, he’s havin a tough year, I don’t particularly like him, but I think he is a real asset to F1. Especially when he’s got a good car beneath him, he has real penchant for getting under peoples skin! (including my own)

  8. Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 30th June 2013, 1:50

    Hmm perhaps Bernie should just schedule 19-20 Grands prix at Bahrain and/or Anu Dhabi as there’s virtually no chance of rain… And he’d get a handsome increase in money into his pocket.

    I for one really like seeing the rain, because its a true litmus test for a driver’s skill.
    Also the fact that it was just the first practice session. Every other session since then has been dry and cars were out on track non-stop.

    • Akshay (@hamilfan) said on 30th June 2013, 7:50

      @tophercheese21 yes ! The driving in the rain as slow and boring it may sound , is actually the difference between a good driver and a hot shot . Vettel’s Brazil drive last year only made me see him amongst the top 3 . I hope this season brings the same excitement at the end ( I don’t want him to finish off things too soon )

  9. JimmyTheIllustratedBlindSolidSilverBeachStackapopolis III said on 30th June 2013, 2:33

    Surprised theres nothing about redbull seeking testing clarification. One of the things they are apparently asking is if its ok to run a 2011 car over 1000km with a current driver before every grandprix ala ferrari what ever the answer it will have big implications.

  10. venom (@venom) said on 30th June 2013, 7:53

    bianchii almost 1.7 seconds faster than chilton in the marussia.

  11. frogster said on 30th June 2013, 9:27

    COTD
    “For example, last years Hungarian Grand Prix tyre choice was spot on, but this year they decided to bring medium and hard tyres instead of medium and soft.”

    Since this years tyres are one grade softer than last years, they are in effect bringing the SAME tyres to Hungary.

  12. Chalky (@chalky) said on 30th June 2013, 10:20

    “They need to change the regulations to ensure this sort of thing does not happen. The FIA and the teams need to sort it out. People pay good money, and there is a television audience to think about, too.”

    I wonder why people have to pay good money Bernie?

  13. xjr15jaaag (@xjr15jaaag) said on 30th June 2013, 10:33

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; there is no such thing as a boring F1 race. There are processional F1 races, but they are never boring.
    Formula 1 is a privilege, not a right, and F1 fans should respect that before labeling F1 races as dull and ‘the worst F1 race I’ve ever seen, so I shall stop watching it’.
    Formula 1 racing is something to enjoy; not to criticise endlessly until either a certain driver/team stops winning, or there are a limitless amount of overtakes and battles for the lead.

  14. JackySteeg (@jackysteeg) said on 30th June 2013, 10:37

    I tell you what Bernie, I’d rather pay to watch rain fall at Silverstone than pay to watch a race in Bahrain or Abu Dhabi any day.

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