FIA allows teams to use race drivers at Young Drivers Test for “tyre development work”

2013 F1 season

Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus, Silverstone, 2013The FIA has announced teams will be allowed to run their race drivers in the forthcoming Young Drivers’ Test as F1 seeks a solution to the tyre problems which affected yesterday’s British Grand Prix.

FIA president Jean todt said: “Our priority is to ensure safety for all in Formula One and we believe the incidents at Silverstone represent a genuine safety concern for the drivers.”

“We have thus taken the decision to alter the Young Driver Test to allow teams to use drivers they deem fit to carry out tyre development work in a bid to solve the problems we saw at the British Grand Prix.

“I believe it is fitting to carry out this work at the circuit upon which the issues were manifested.”

The test takes places on July 17th to 19th, after this weekend’s German Grand Prix. However the FIA added the length of the test may be extended by one day.

The FIA intends to allow drivers “who have competed in more than two F1 World Championship events provided it is clear that the purpose of them doing this is to test tyres for Pirelli”.

The sport’s governing body it has “asked Pirelli for an assurance that there will be no repetition of the tyre problems at this weekend?s German Grand Prix or at subsequent grand prix [sic].”

In order to accommodate the change to the testing plan the FIA requires the agreement of teams to amend article 22.4h (i) of the Sporting Regulations and article 12.6.3 of the Technical Regulations. These govern the dates on which testing may take place and changes to tyre specifications.

The FIA added Mercedes has agreed not to participate in the test following the ruling handed down by the International Tribunal last month.

Red Bull had previously announced Antonio Felix da Costa and Carlos Sainz Jnr would drive for them at the test.

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140 comments on FIA allows teams to use race drivers at Young Drivers Test for “tyre development work”

  1. Lee_H said on 1st July 2013, 20:23

    hopefully this whole mess will be the end of pirelli in f1.

    then we can bring in a tyre supplier to make proper tyres that can be raced hard.

    when the tyres on my road car needed replacing a few weeks ago we ditched our worn pirelli tyres & picked up a set of bridgestone’s!

    • Metallion (@metallion) said on 1st July 2013, 20:35

      Pirelli can make tires that can be raced hard too, but they were asked not to. It doesn’t matter who they bring in with the current regulations as they’ll be required to make easily degrading tires too.

    • 5150 (@) said on 1st July 2013, 20:41

      Good for you.
      Now you can expect this:

      Best regards.

    • Merv (@) said on 1st July 2013, 21:23

      as @metallion said, they produced what they were asked to produce. It’s actually quite an impressive display of how welll they understand tyre technology.

      The tyre war era created tyres that the teams could have run for the whole race. I’m pretty sure that’s why the rule about running both available compounds was brought in when refuelling was banned, there would have been almost zero pitstops otherwise.

      • Lee_H said on 1st July 2013, 21:34

        pirelli were asked to make tyres that required 2-3 stops, from there its been upto pirelli how they made the tyres.

        in 2011 the tyres were ok, they went a bit more extreme for 2012 & even more extreme for 2013 with softer compounds, steel bets & different side wall constructions. they were never asked to do this they just did it of there own accord so all of the bad we have seen with 2013 tyres is purely pirelli’s fault. they should have stuck with 2012 tyres & not made 2013 tyres as extreme as they have, thats why we have problems.

        i did not mind tyres in 2011 or 2012, but 2013 tyres are complete joke, pirelli should be kicked out of f1 for bringing f1 2013 into disrepute with rubbish tyres & secret testing which has given mercedes a big advantage in helping them fix tyre wear problems.

    • Alex Bkk (@alex-bkk) said on 2nd July 2013, 3:06

      I mentioned it in another post, but Pirelli has been in a no win situation with F1 from the get go.

    • Hamilfan (@hamilfan) said on 2nd July 2013, 4:42

      Loosing a customer like you , is what happens to pirelli at the end . Remember Pirelli were asked to make these types of tyre with no data , no testing , no car , nothing . I don’t blame them .

  2. Fisha695 (@fisha695) said on 1st July 2013, 20:58

    So random question, are teams still limited to 2 cars for these tests or could they for example bring 4 cars with 2 being race drivers & 2 being young/test drivers and then have all 4 cars competing in the test at the same time?

    • Merv (@) said on 1st July 2013, 21:27

      Well, they are only allowed to “overlap” drivers in pre season testing. Ergo drivers either do a full day for the team, or change over at lunchtime.
      Not sure on specific rules for YDT but pretty sure the rules on track access would be pretty much identical.

  3. stert said on 1st July 2013, 21:06

    It’s all starting to get embarrassing now. Pirelli have produced a dangerously built trye and the epesement is a tyre test without merc.

  4. Dave365753737373 said on 1st July 2013, 21:11

    “The FIA intends to allow drivers “who have competed in more than two F1 World Championship events provided it is clear that the purpose of them doing this is to test tyres for Pirelli””
    This year’s next big scandal – you heard it here first. I’m half joking, but who writes these rules? This is a perfect example of the FIA’s idiocy and inability to consider what they’re actually prescribing. All they have to do is produce solid guidelines instead of these well intentioned but hopelessly vague rules that invite abuse, waste everybody’s time fighting over and produce pages and pages of tedious editorial that detracts from what we should be talking about – motor racing. It sounds absurd yet the way things are going I almost believe someone could get a race ban for using old tyres during this test. You think it would be fresh in the memory but they just don’t get it. This incompetence is funny really, except that at the moment it’s literally dangerous.

    And what do you younglings do now??? The real car crashes in F1 are the ones that seem to happen in slow motion in an office in Paris.

  5. Ivano (@) said on 1st July 2013, 21:12

    Was hoping to see Di Costa in RB and Koba in Ferrari.

  6. Ivano (@) said on 1st July 2013, 21:14

    Can the teams alternate more than 2 drivers in these test?

  7. foleyger (@foleyger) said on 1st July 2013, 21:35

    where is this test on and what dates?

  8. Jon Sandor (@jonsan) said on 1st July 2013, 21:41

    Just to clarify, the teams are allowed to use their regular race drivers only for the tyre development work, not for car development work. If they want to do the latter then they must use “young drivers”.

    I suspect most teams will do some of both.

  9. verstappen (@verstappen) said on 1st July 2013, 22:23

    When Lewis’ tyre blew, I thought ‘Karma is a b…’
    So it turns out to be even a bigger one.

  10. Deej92 (@deej92) said on 2nd July 2013, 1:16

    This seems sensible to me. Perhaps adding a day like they have suggested will allow the young drivers to get in a good amount of testing as well as a fair amount for tyre testing from the regulars. Also, testing these tyres on a circuit where these incidents happened seems logical and should give good feedback in order to sort this whole affair.

  11. kbdavies (@kbdavies) said on 2nd July 2013, 1:22

    Well, if the YTD is overtaken by a Tyre test based on a safety issue, then technically, Mercedes cannot be excluded from it – as the test is now significantly different from what is was supposed to be; hence the ban will be invalid. Also, they FIA can be found negligent if Mercedes were to have another accident again – due to not being allowed to participate in the test, despite having suffered a safety issue with the tyres themselves.

    Merc have always argued that the tyres used in their “secret” test were for 2014 and they had no idea of the compounds. They also argued that they did not compile any significant amount of data from the test. The International Tribunal did NOT contest these points with them.

    The FIA are really going to be in a bind about this, as Merc will certainly not take it lying down.

  12. Glenn (@glennb) said on 2nd July 2013, 1:55

    Always the pessimist. I predict a week of rain during the test, therefore achieving nothing.
    While I have the rostrum, why would you place your frontline drivers in the cars for the test? Its like a human being used to test a bullet-proof vest. I believe they call them Crash-Test Dummies. I can understand RB putting Webber in the car though ;)
    I also predict Alonso, Kimi & Lewis will have other important matters to attend to on the test days.

  13. mrjlr93 (@mrjlr93) said on 2nd July 2013, 2:20

    Its amazing how after we have had 4 tyre blow outs in 1 race the FIA have realized that Pirelli need some form of tyre testing with a current spec car and that all teams need to be able to participate. I think we will see more tyre tests in the near future now. It shouldn’t have taken 4 tyre blow outs and consistent graveling with the FIA from Pirelli to test and improve there tyres.

  14. wsrgo (@wsrgo) said on 2nd July 2013, 4:48

    Ross Brawn must be kicking himself now.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 2nd July 2013, 7:56

      Actually I think he could feel vindicated because by now it looks far less dodgy that they saw the need to “help pirelli”. And off course this test allowing normal drivers in means we can stop discussing how its not real punishment for the team too @wsrgo

  15. Gill (@gill) said on 2nd July 2013, 5:18

    So in the young driver test, can the teams bolt new things on the car to test , I mean, can they take it as the normal in -season testing ?

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