Sergio Perez, McLaren, Silverstone, 2013

F1 cars will be “two to three seconds slower” in 2014

2014 F1 seasonPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Sergio Perez, McLaren, Silverstone, 2013FIA race director Charlie Whiting expects F1 cars to lap more slowly next year despite having slightly more power.

“I think lap times will probably be two to three seconds slower than they are currently,” Whiting told the JA on F1 podcast.

Formula One engines will be downsized from the current V8 units next year: “We’ve got the new power train coming: a 1.6-litre V6 with all sorts of energy saving and energy converting devices which will, I think, bring the power to a little over what we have right now.”

“But it’s very, very complex and the torque management will be very complicated.”

“I think the efficiency is the key thing,” he added. “Just to be absolutely clear, though, you won’t see cars running out of fuel because there’s no limit on the amount of fuel a team can put in the car. There’s a limit to how much they can use during the race.”

“There are significant changes to the wing designs in order to reduce the drag,” said Whiting. “The drag is the thing that had to be reduced to make the fuel consumption work and as you know the cornerstone for this new power unit is only using 100 kilos of fuel for the race.”

“And there’s also a fuel flow limit which will be verified and check by the FIA fuel flow meter which all cars will fit inside their fuel tanks.”

Whiting also pointed out that the new penalty points system being introduced next year could mean drivers facing race bans in one season due to infractions committed the previous year:

“Drivers will be awarded points, or penalised, depending on the severity of the incident. The table we have at the moment drivers are given one, two or three points depending on the severity of the incident concerned. If they accumulate 12 points in a 12-month period they will lose their licence for one race. And this will be a 12-month period so if you get three points in June, say, they will last until the following June, then they’ll come off your licence.”

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  1. Do you guys not think these regulations have been well thought through!? I’ve read post after post of armchair scientist calculations of how the new engines won’t work and the cars will be running out of fuel – the racing will be boring etc.

    F1 needs this change. It makes it relevant again in an age of diminishing fossil fuels and cost effieciency. I’m sure the best engineers in the world are up to the task of this and that in setting the rules I’m pretty sure it was totally possible for this not to ruin things.

    I, for one, am looking forward to the new regs and the age of the fastest lapping track cars going almost or just as fast, much more efficiently. Change is nearly always good, it just takes some getting used to. Nothing stands the test of time unless it adapts and moves forwards.

    1. Yes, I think we’re all (secretly) perhaps looking forwards to it. It’s just that it’s not instantly easy to understand the new regulations.
      I agree that not everyone can understand the offside rule in football (soccer), but at least FIFA don’t keep changing it. The players might understand it perfectly, it would just be nice if the fans could understand it as well.
      The FIA rule changes don’t seem to be desperately clear, what with the chat about fuel flow restrictions and 100 kg per race or per hour on the previous page, and Charlie’s remarks didn’t seem to help. Maybe *he* doesn’t quite understand them either.
      I hope very much that these new regulations mean that some of the cars will actually look distinctly different to the others. As it was in the ’80s, when the Lotus looked visibly distinct from the Brabham or Ferrari. At the moment, all the cars look like near clones of each other.

  2. I feel like crying

  3. kers, drs, bubble gum tires, fuel saving, v6 engines, soon to be milk float mode when making a pit stop, penalty points I am starting to appreciate that line in the song american pie ” can’t remember if I cried the day the music died”

  4. So many rules, so many regulations. It is almost as if F1 isn’t about speed anymore, it is about regulations. Hard core racing and driving on the limit of the car are things of the past now.
    Good thing I have an interest in MotoGP. At least that is one form of puring racing. No politics, and at the end, the winner can get off the bike and celebrate his victory with his fans.

    1. Good thing I have an interest in MotoGP.

      Still has regulations though lol!

      “From 2007 onwards the FIM regulated that engines are limited a maximum fuel capacity of 21 litres in MotoGP™ class”

  5. I like how Keith used a picture of a “MClaren” when talking of slow cars. Sneaky :)

    1. Now I understand! McLaren are already running their car to comply with the 2014 rules!


  6. HA!, while Indycar is loosing up regulations a bit to get their cars faster for the 100 years of the Indy 500 thinking of breaking speed records on the track.
    F1 is doing everything it can to be slower.

    Nice Job F1, you might as well put speedbumps on the track or give speeding tickets if the drivers exceed 300 kms in a straight.

  7. People are missing the point when they worry about cars running out fuel next year or driving in constant fuel save mode.

    If you tried to run a race on 100kg of fuel on the current generation engines, then yes you would have a problem. But those engines are designed to run at the maximum potential power/weight ratio, they are designed to get the maximum out of whatever fuel is put in the tank. Efficiency isn’t important, maximum power is. Flow rate can be altered depending on how much fuel is needed for the race ahead.

    The new engines are designed specifically for fuel efficiency and a limited fuel flow. They won’t have a problem running within the fuel limitations, because that’s what they are designed to do!

  8. That McLaren in the picture’s ahead of its time – it’s two seconds slower already!

    1. Lol. Great :)

  9. MazdaChris (@mazdachris) said on 3rd July 2013, 12:30

    said: “I think the confusion comes in thinking that how can you achieve a maximum fuel flow rate of 100kg per hour when you are limited to using less than 100kg of fuel and the race lasts longer than an hour.

    The thing you’re forgetting is that the engine is only using its peak fuel rate while the driver has the throttle fully open. For a significant part of the lap, the engine won’t be at peak fuel rate. They don’t just run the entire race with the throttle fully open the whole time!”

    Actually you do try to run all the time with the throttle wide open, and the team selects the gear ratios that are available to accomplish that to the fullest extent possible.

  10. WilliamB (@william-brierty)
    3rd July 2013, 19:55

    So drivers in the WEC will be going faster in 2014 as well as not having to worry about tyre saving. Mark’s decision is looking better as every moment passes.

    1. No they won’t.

  11. My understanding is that McLaren are taking this as a personal challenge, and aim to beat the 2-3 second reduction target by at least a second, year-on-year.

    Their hope is that by the time the stupid decision to switch engine suppliers one year into a new formula pans out, they’ll be 6-7 seconds off the pace.

  12. I’m personally expecting race pace to be similar because of fuel efficiency leading to less fuel weight, although I bet quali pace will be slower on most tracks. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the new cars would be faster around tracks like Monaco, Singapore and Hungary.

    I do wonder if we are going to return to another era of engine failures before the regulations get locked down again. It just may be that this stops drivers like Vettel from just winning race after race with very few failures.

  13. so f1 is now greener than a carbon lie. so why no talk of hydrogen fuel cell , because never give a sucker a break. what has happened to f1 I’ll tell you money money money, bugger the racing greed greed greed. thank God for btcc an moto gp

  14. The fuel thing is interesting and all but, seriously *** in regards to the demerit points carrying over into the next season… Thats ridiculous… I get that they don’t want drivers to be reckless at the end of the season if they had point sto spare and all but the system is silly and should have been thought out better.

    Crazy thought: what if the number of demerits that a driver has at the end of the season is subtracted from his/her championship points? or number of demerit points at last race = # of places received as a grid penalty at last race? both ideas sound crazy, but not more crazy than having penalties carry over between seasons…

    What happens if a driver switches teams? I could see a situation where a driver gets passed over by a major team because they would be excluded from the first race of the season…

    They sure like to complicate the simple things and over simplify the critical things…

    1. @mcbride

      What if the number of demerits that a driver has at the end of the season is subtracted from his/her championship points?

      I don’t think you could make that work in a fair way because the value of a point can vary from driver to driver. A one-point penalty might make no difference to Vettel or Alonso at the end of the year but could move a midfield driver up or down one or more places in the championship.

      And of course it would open up the possibility of drivers having negative points scores, which might be undesirable.

      I could see a situation where a driver gets passed over by a major team because they would be excluded from the first race of the season.

      Well then they shouldn’t break the rules. It is supposed to be a disincentive, after all.

      1. @keithcollantine – Yeah I hear ya that they shouldn’t break the rules. I suppose that I’d be far more in agreement with that line of thinking if the stewards were just a bit more consistent. They’ve certainly been better in recent years, but I feel that they have a ways to go yet…

  15. I am surprised if the cars are just 2s slower than currently. I have expected them to be at least 3 seconds slower. Looking forward to seeing the highest top speeds in almost a decade and I hope they will keep the regs fairly stable after 2014 so we can claw back the cornering/braking deficit soon.

  16. Can anyone say to Mr. Newey that the car are already very, very ugly and they can’t get uglier?

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