Romain Grosjean, Lotus, Nurburgring, 2013

Rate the race: 2013 German Grand Prix

2013 German Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Romain Grosjean, Lotus, Nurburgring, 2013

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  1. yawn, boring vettel race

    1. Are you kidding?

      1. You must be a Mercedes fan.(I am a Lotus fan) That was a brilliant race, brilliant track, brilliant battles and a great double podium for Lotus.

    2. …are you serious?

    3. Let me guess, Hamilton fan? :P

      1. Why not he be a marussia fan ? ;) . I rated 7/10

    4. The race was amazing! Not a single dull moment, I just wish that the race was a couple laps longer though :D

  2. What a nail-biter! 10/10

    1. @tmekt I rated the race 9/10. Funny that up until now 5% have rated this Race as 1/10. I am just thinking what kind of races would they be rating 10/10 and what would we be rating such a race LOL.

      1. I gave it 4, how a good average (5) F1 race ought to be but still spoiled to some degree (-1) by overinfluential tyres.

        1. But at least we had the lead guys really pushing this time @hohum, I would think that should make it for a notch better rating.

          1. @bascb, I appreciate that they were pushing, my point however is that that should always be the rule, not the exception. See how bad things have become, how low our expectations are.

          2. Ah, I see @hohum! The good news is, next years Pirellis will be made to last, on the other hand, we could be in for a LOT of “save fuel” at least in the first half of next year.

  3. Real F1 multi strategy race…. Loved it…. That is how we want the F1 races

    1. A great race definitely! Battles at the lights, battles at mid-race, battles at the flag; battles for every position. I’ve seen great drives from all drivers in the top 10.

      I just hope the cameraman is ok, it was shocking.

    2. seconded . totally great race. 9 poitnts just coz tyre changes made force india and STR drop behind Mclaren

  4. Good race! Nice battle for the lead.

  5. You’ve got to be kidding. It was so close with the Lotuses for over half the race.

    1. This was in reply to @fosrone. My internet was acting up. And I can’t delete this.

      1. nice display picture could listen to him all day..

  6. On the edge of my seat for the final 1/3 of the race. So close for Kimi! 8/10

  7. And German Anthem at Nurburgring…..

    1. Ha Toh choos na bha

  8. Aditya (@adityafakhri)
    7th July 2013, 14:52

    good race (7), because they were actually racing. not sure if Kimi really have to pit again in last 10 lap… Grosjean is driver of the day.

  9. Great race – different strategies and a showdown till the last corner with tires that allowed wheel to wheel racing. That’s how F1 should be.

  10. Bob (@bobthevulcan)
    7th July 2013, 14:54

    There was lots of neat strategic interplay, and an intriguing battle for the lead by the closing stages, culminating in an edge-of-seat finale. Moreover, we saw plenty of action up and down the field – including, but not limited to, Webber’s charge from the rear, overtakes on and by the Mercedes cars, as well as the twin Lotuses. Overall, good entertainment, with excellent showings by Vettel, Grosjean and Raikkonen. A solid 9.

  11. Was more than a little annoyed at the pointless and over-long safety car period, esp. given that the Lotuses were catching Vettel at that point. I’m glad that the race transcended it in the end.

    1. @erikkennedy Wasn’t pointless as Webber needed to catch up to the rest of the field..

      1. So we watch a nascar-style F1 race, with the safety car coming for no other reason than to reduce the distances between the cars. It cancelled all the correct strategies that some teams and drivers made. Bianchi’s car was no longer on the track, so the SC should have entered back immediately; instead, it closed the field,severely altering the result of the race. I would have given it a 10, but I ended in almost giving it a 8. F1 needs to change the SC rules, sometimes it comes for no reason and always stays at least 2 laps to long.

      2. @wsrgo Interesting, because last week Chilton and Van Der Garde were allowed to take their lap back, but they didn’t wait for them to catch up.

      3. Why does he NEED to catch up? He already got a bit advantage getting the lap back, let alone catching up the back with nice warm tyres & brakes!

        1. Agreed, ridiculous rule. At the very most let lapped cars overtake and then bring in the safety car immediately. I’d rather just leave them in the pack. Yes, those behind lapped cars will be held up at the restart a bit, but so what? They would have been held up anyway.

          Alternatively force the lapped cars to drop to the back of the queue.

          1. While I was pleased for Mark, I agree completely with all above.

          2. The thing that was unfair, was Redbull made a terrible and dangerous mistake in the pits. Webber dropped a lap but purely for the the weird rules got a massive advantage by being allowed to unlap, catch up from the back, warm up his tyres and steam past all the cars on colder tyres that were having to drive at the much slower pace car speed. Then he ended up in the points.
            What happened in the pits should have been race ending. The guy on the wheel clearly indicated there was something wrong but the lolly pop guy let him go. What happened to waiting for the guys on the wheels to put their hands up to show they were done?

      4. Mark (@marlarkey)
        8th July 2013, 0:07

        That is precisely why it was pointless…. for what reason should lapped cars be able to unlap themselves and end up gaining a whole lap advantage on everyone else

      5. A car rolling downhill onto the track isnt pointless at all. F1 is supposed to follow the rules, and they say when there is a SC, the drivers should unlap.

  12. 9/10 – Haven’t felt that tense since last season’s finale. Fantastic to see the front runners so close, with Raikkonen chasing Vettel and Alonso chasing Grosjean. Goes to show that you don’t need statistics like “number of passes”, you just need the tension of the battle.

    Thumbs down to the director, though, he missed the final lap passes of Hamilton and Webber.

    1. Aditya (@adityafakhri)
      7th July 2013, 15:08

      +over 9999

    2. Apparently the crowd was more intriguing…. I quite enjoyed the race but I think the battle at the front could have been even better if it wasn’t for RBR’s bungled pitstop. Gave it a 7.

    3. I was thinking of giving it a 9 myself; it would’ve been a 10, but the action in the final laps was nowhere near as intense as I had hoped.

      Then I remembered the guy who almost got killed today and I ended up giving it a 7. I think the pit crews, particularly among certain teams (I won’t name names), are starting to seriously ignore safety in their pursuit of lower pit stop times.

      1. The Mechanics want to be the best at what they do just as much as the drivers want to be the best at what they do. But to be honest, the only people that should be allowed in the pit lane during a race should be the mechanics and other necessary personal. There is no need to have actual camera men in the pits when they could easily make HD cameras small enough to place in multiple locations operated by remote. By having an over abundance of people in the pits they are just increasing the foot traffic as well as placing more lives at risk.

  13. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
    7th July 2013, 14:59

    As a race, this was a 10/10. Best race of the year yet – I was hoping Kimi will overtake but that wasn’t to be! Great driving from Grosjean! But then, I am an Alonso fan. If F1Fanatic was a room, I will be curled up in a corner hiding my face. Good strategy by Ferrari – but did Alonso capitalise? Nope. The guy was lucky to finish with the fuel he had left. Totally lacked pace today – not the car, but Alonso.

    1. Not sure why you are accusing Alonso of lack of pace. The guy almost got 3rd with the third best car of the day. They probably didn’t setup his car for greater straightline speed, that cost him.

      1. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
        7th July 2013, 15:16

        @sankalp88 Did you not observe that Alonso wasn’t just able to overtake with DRS, but he was slow through the corners too. When Vettel pitted, Alonso was suddenly 4 secs off Kimi! And then when Kimi and Alonso came off the pitlane the split was at most 2s. And both were on softs, and Kimi goes to second and Alonso stays at 4 – unable to pass even Grosjean. He was even consistently losing huge chunks of time, but that may or may not have been because of him switching to fuel conservation!

        1. @shreyasf1fan

          “Alonso was suddenly 4 secs off Kimi”.

          No he wasn’t! What were you watching?! He was 2.7 behind Kimi when VET pitted. Considering that Kimi was clearly getting held up, Alonso did well to manage the gap to around 4.3 seconds until he pitted for the softs. Kimi was let by GRO, you can’t expect the same for Alonso. He just ran out of time, and may be that extra grip at the end.

          1. He ran out of fuel. He was catching Gro and would’ve taken him if the Team didn’t order him to go into fuel conservation mode in the last few laps. Smart, considering he came to a stop few metres after crossing the finish line.

        2. Did you not observe that Alonso wasn’t just able to overtake with DRS, but he was slow through the corners too

          the word “slow” is relative here , if you’re talking about Vettel Kimi & Grosjean the answer is simple the Red Bull & the Lotus were simply faster than the Ferrari
          if you are talking about how Alonso was under performing then tell me please how did you figure out that because if you can notice it like that then why use telemetry

          1. @tifoso1989

            the Red Bull & the Lotus were simply faster than the Ferrari

            I don’t think that was the case. For most of the race Alonso was faster than Raikkonen, Grosjean and Vettel. I think Alonso lost the race yesterday. If he had qualified more strongly he would have been in contention for the win as well.

          2. @baron-2

            For most of the race Alonso was faster than Raikkonen, Grosjean and Vettel

            I don’t know if you have watched the same race as me , bur anyway the lap times that will be displayed in the forum will prove you wrong
            In the fist stint Alonso was nowhere near the pace of both Lotus & Red Bull
            which was not due to the difference in the compounds but the degradation of the used set of medium mounted on his car was higher than expected which led the team to anticipate the first pit stop, with the new set of prime tyres Alonso has regained his pace but he wasn’t as quick as both Vettel & Grosjean , in the last stint Alonso was the quickest driver for the first 4 or 5 laps because he was on new option & kimi was on used option after that Grosjean was on used Medium was able to respond to Alonso’s times in the last laps

          3. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
            7th July 2013, 17:34

            @tifoso1989 No I did mean Ferrari’s pace.

          4. @tifoso1989

            I’m just basing my opinion on the fact that every time they showed the delta between Raikkonen and Alonso, Alonso was closing in. Also, after the first stops Alonso was a lot further behind than at the end. Logic dictates Alonso made up time for most of the race. He wasn’t lots quicker but he was gaining a tenth or two more often than not.

            As for Alonso not overtaking Grosjean, I doubt Raikkonen could have overtaken Grosjean without the teamorder so I doubt it had to do with Grosjean being able to counter Alonso. The way the track is made means it’s really tough to pass a slightly slower car even with DRS. Just look at Raikkonen being stuck behind Hamilton. And if I recall correctly Hamilton couldn’t DRS pass Hulkenberg at one point despite a sub 4 tenth gap. The track is similar in that regard to the Hungaroring. Unless there’s a big difference in pace getting passed is very tough. If not impossible.

    2. Good strategy? Really..He lasted how long on his first stint?

      1. it appeared they pitted him far to early, if they waited a few laps and gone for the softs at 2nd stop(which was a no brainer, me and a friend even discussed it last night) he would of gained track position and got the softs out of the way.

        Ferrari somehow picked a poor strategy out of a good one. Alonso drove ok other than running wide out of pit.

        Any news about massa? strange one

        1. Traverse (@)
          7th July 2013, 19:30

          Any news about massa? strange one

          Apparently Massa was stuck in 5th gear when he pirouetted.

  14. Danksa (@danieljaksa)
    7th July 2013, 14:59

    Not one tyre failure; not counting a flying RB Webber Wheel.

    1. Will Buxton was reporting that Pic had a slow puncture on the left rear about halfway through the race. Still, it’s good that there were no catastrophic failures like last week.

      1. Strictly speaking not really a failure, as the structure held. But point still well made.

  15. P45 for Felipe Massa(useless wingman, useless) and possibly Dommicelli. Wrong call again from Ferrari, should have started on “soft” after all.. blunder after blunder. I’m amazed that some people warrant high wages.

    1. Dommicelli? I’m sure you mean Domenicali, that’s quite a typo :P

      1. Damn(auto-correct), thanks for pointing that out Sir. Please don’t give me detention. ;)

    2. Have we heard anything from Ferrari yet to explain what happened to Massa? That did not look like a normal driver error for me @liambo

      1. I also do not think it was a normal driver’s error.
        The Ferrari F1 website mentioned:” The team is currently investigating the cause of this incident that brought the Brazilian’s race to a premature end”.
        Pat Fry said about the incident:”he [Felipe] locked up the rear wheels under braking and spun, possibly because of the lack of grip”.
        Felipe Massa said:”at the moment when I braked, the rear wheels locked up and I couldn’t stop the car from spinning. When the car came to a stop, it was stuck in fifth gear and I couldn’t stop the engine from stalling”.
        So I guess it is not clear yet.

    3. If you did that, you’d also have to fire Boullier from lotus for getting the strategy wrong at Silverstone.

  16. Loved it. Tense and lot of interesting battles.

    One thing tho, F1’s getting themselves to a point when accidents don’t happen because of luck, maybe?. The Webber wheel, the Marussia rolling backwards on the circuit. Another thing to look at quickly.

  17. 5 starting score.
    -1 For trully awful pitlane incident with the cameraman. I was really worried for his life there, as I thought the tyre had hit him on his head/neck.
    +1 For the tyres allowing teams different strategies.
    +2 For drivers being able to push for the whole race.
    +2 For nail-biting last stint with 3 different drivers looking capable to win at some point.

    So I’d say it was a 9. Brilliant race, had me in the edge of my seat throughout. Really good form for all the podium finishers. Good race from Jenson as well. Felt sorry for Massa and Grosjean – I reckon he could have finished 2nd had it not been for the safety car, and he would have truly deserved it.

    1. Romain got ahead of kimi with better strategy for staying out on first stint.

      Kimi got screwed up by the team that pitted him behind the traffic.

      Kimi would’ve won by staying out on 1st stint like Romain did.

      1. yea true that. I was so surprised when Romain came out in 2nd. that should of been Kimi, but I guess radio problems kinda made them panic a bit. still glad to see Lotus r faster than Ferrari and Mercedes.

      2. I think kimi had a second chance to win, but Lotus budged and got scared of keeping him out ahead.

  18. Really strong race of strategy: probably the best strategic race of the season that wasn’t dictated by tyres horribly falling off cliffs.
    A few interesting incidents, glad to hear the cameraman is well. Great fight back from Webber AGAIN, beautiful drives from the Lotus drivers, very close battles for positions right through the pack. 9/10.

    1. Agree.
      And they told vettel to push even at the end, you know he didn’t win by just cruising.

  19. 10.
    The final laps were incredible. There was a lot of tension with different strategies, close racing. Thrilling. And then, of course, it’s always nice to see a guy winning his home GP.

  20. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
    7th July 2013, 15:14

    @sankalp88 Did you not observe that Alonso wasn’t able to overtake with DRS, he was slow through the corners too. When Vettel pitted, Alonso was suddenly 4 secs off Kimi! And then when Kimi and Alonso came off the pitlane the split was at most 2s. And both were on softs, and Kimi goes to second and Alonso stays at 4 – unable to pass even Grosjean. He was even consistently losing huge chunks of time, but that may or may not have been because of him switching to fuel conservation!

    1. watch the race again, alonso was 4+ seconds behind kimi before his final stop. HE cut it back to 2 with fastest laps.

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