FOM change pit lane practice after accident

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Mark Webber, Red Bull, Nurburgring, 2013In the round-up: Bernie Ecclestone says his cameramen will work from the pit wall after one of them was struck by a tyre during the German Grand Prix.

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TV crews to work from pit wall after Germany accident (The Guardian)

Bernie Ecclestone: “There was a whole bunch of mechanics and the tyre could have hit any one of those guys. The cameraman just happened to be looking the wrong way at the wrong time. In future, all our camera crews will only be allowed to film from the pit wall.”

Martin Whitmarsh fears F1 is becoming ‘complacent’ after cameraman is hurt by bouncing tyre at German Grand Prix (The Independent)

“We have become a little bit complacent. Those of us who were around 25 years ago without speed limits could smell the inherent danger.”

Mercedes hopes to win testing reprieve (Autosport)

“Mercedes team principal Ross Brawn has admitted, however, that Mercedes’ only real chance of getting some running would be if the test ran into a fourth day – something that is unlikely to happen.”

New tyres key to title – Ferrari (ESPN)

“What happens from Hungary onwards, I don’t know because we know what the construction is and we know what the compounds are but we have never tested them together. We see how things can change so quickly with a couple of degrees [in track temperature] so you have one car that is very quick on Friday and then struggling on Sunday. I think this is really the challenge that all the engineers at the teams will have to face over the next few weeks.”

Montezemolo: “I have faith in the team: now it?s time for results” (Ferrari)

Stefano Domenicali: “There is a crucial test which we must exploit to the maximum, in terms of both the performance of the tyres and the technical development of the car.”

Changes costing Force India (Sky)

Deputy team principal Bob Fernley: “The tyres obviously have an effect but how big an effect is difficult to determine. Is there a great deal of point in making the effort to try and figure it out, when we’re going to have a completely new set of tyres as well for Hungary?”

Gary Anderson: Pit stops should be slowed down (BBC)

“I would suggest reducing the number of people allowed to work on the pit stop to two on each wheel, a front and rear jack, and the ‘lollipop’ man who controls the driver.”

Helmets and Overalls (James Moy Photography)

“Which is more dangerous? The F1 pit lane with 12 highly experienced cameramen providing imagery to a world audience? Or the Le Mans pit lane full of amateur photographers with a desire to snap a nice photo for their bedroom wall?”

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@Guilherme says too much time was wasted behind the Safety Car on Sunday:

The Safety Car stayed far too long to remove a car that, once stopped by the advertising board, shouldn?t warrant a safety car in the first place. And that was just because of the “lapped cars may overtake rule”, which in my opinion is unacceptable whether it is Chilton or Webber who is lapped.

In reality that safety car should have stayed just long enough to remove the Marussia and for the field to catch up. The two extra laps it took for Webber to catch up were two racing laps thrown away.
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72 comments on FOM change pit lane practice after accident

  1. Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 9th July 2013, 10:59

    Ferrari have a decent race car, but they have to improve qualifying if Fernando wants to compete for championships. It’s just too much to ask, even for a driver of the calibre of Alonso, every race to keep coming from behind.

    Ferrari have only had 4 pole positions since 2010.

    They must improve their qualifying pace if they want any chance of winning a championship.

  2. montreal95 (@montreal95) said on 9th July 2013, 11:10

    Don’t agree with COTD. Previous rule for lapped cars stuck in between cars fighting for the lead was worse than rubbish and had ruined many a dramatic finish. What should be done is the lapped cars should go to the back of the queue, with the lap simply added to them by the computer. Not difficult at all. If Nascar can do that so can F1. It will also be balanced as the lapped cars will be a lap heavier on fuel

    • Asanator (@asanator) said on 9th July 2013, 11:18

      OR they could just drop to the back and NOT be given the lap back unfairly!

      • montreal95 (@montreal95) said on 9th July 2013, 12:04

        @asanator It’s no more fair to just drop them to the back of the queue. This might create gaps of a full lap between back-markers depending on where they were in the queue, or make someone who has just been lapped suddenly fight with someone who was a lap and 3 quarters behind. Point is: the rule was not created to improve the show by allowing the back-markers back into the game, while not hindering the front-runners. There’s no such thing as a “fair to all” rule regarding the safety car, as by definition some win and some lose from bunching up the field. But to do what you propose is the equivalent of kicking someone, who’s weak anyway, when he’s already down

        • Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 9th July 2013, 15:27

          But frankly – should we care so much about the exact finishing positions of people who are lapped or almost lapped, and so much so to delay a restart by two laps? They are likely to be out of the points anyway.

          • montreal95 (@montreal95) said on 9th July 2013, 16:46

            @mike-dee First of all, their finishing positions matter to WCC even if they’re not in the points. And you’re right, delaying the start for 2 laps is bad, that’s why I’d proposed in my original post to send them to the back and get the lap added to them by a computer like they do in NASCAR

          • AlonsoWDC (@alonsowdc) said on 9th July 2013, 17:49

            @mike-dee

            Offer me just one reason why classifying anyone ‘lapped or nearly lapped’ is irrelevant.

          • AlonsoWDC (@alonsowdc) said on 9th July 2013, 17:54

            @montreal95

            That does not happen in NASCAR. A driver receiving a lap ‘back’ (called the free pass – exactly one car not on the lead lap is eligible for it each caution period, provided that car did not cause the caution) is required to physically take that lap and overtake the field and queue in the back.

            It would be even more problematic in Formula One than in oval series, where the distance of each lap is usually far greater and the laps far less numerous. Any car receiving a lap back and merely falling back behind the queue would not burn off fuel.

        • montreal95 (@montreal95) said on 9th July 2013, 18:55

          @alonsowdc Sorry my mistake. I thought “lucky dog” just gets the lap back, and it’s been a while since I watched NASCAR. But technically it shouldn’t be difficult to implement. And it’s irrelevant to the main point of my argument regarding this rule which was that if it would be implemented in F1 it’s a win-win scenario. Because, unlike in Nascar, having an extra lap of fuel is a disadvantage in F1, not an advantage. So think of it as a small balancing act for getting a lap for free. And the racing can resume straight away without delays

      • petebaldwin (@petebaldwin) said on 9th July 2013, 13:36

        @asanator That wouldn’t work. If a car is in last 1s behind the car in front and gets lapped as the safety car comes out, they already lose a lap if they stay in the pack. Everyone forms the snake and they will be 1 lap down whereas the car in 21st have closed right up to a few seconds behind the leader. Putting them back an additional lap basically costs them 2 laps overall to the car in front. By letting them past, you keep the race alive for the teams at the bottom as well as the teams at the top.

  3. Bendanarama (@bendana) said on 9th July 2013, 12:23

    I’d be all for Le Mans style pitstops in F1 – only two mechanics to change the tyres, plus two Jackmen and a Lollipop man. That would create some entertaining strategy decisions!

    • Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 9th July 2013, 15:27

      Yeah, a one-stop is very entertaining.

      • Bendanarama (@bendana) said on 9th July 2013, 16:11

        Why would it be a one stop? given that the tyres are unlikely to last the distance, you’d still have to have multiple stops.

        • Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 9th July 2013, 16:48

          Because you would probably lose 45 seconds instead of 15 seconds in a stop. So drivers would push even less to achieve as few pit stops as possible, and make the tyres last as long as possible. So except in extreme circumstances, most races would be one-stops.

          • Bendanarama (@bendana) said on 10th July 2013, 10:09

            But in that situation, someone gambling on doing more than one stop and pushing harder would easilly be able to make time up. it could lead to more varied strategy.

            And even if it was one stop, the longer stop would shake up the field significantly – especially with cars as close to performance as they are now. Hell, more durable tyres and long one stops could be really interesting!

  4. schooner (@schooner) said on 9th July 2013, 15:19

    These modern, sub 3 second pitstops are pushing the boundaries of human physical capability, and are putting way too much pressure on the crews. Accidents are bound to happen, and I think that it would be a good idea to slow down the stops. Not by imposing a minimum time, but maybe by designing a slower wheel gun and spec wheel nuts to be used by all teams. Give the crew a few additional seconds to be a bit more careful and deliberate. Maybe even take a breath! That said, whatever tools you give these guys they are always going to work as fast as possible, so the potential for mistakes will always be there.

  5. Raveendhana (@raveendhana) said on 9th July 2013, 18:56

    looks like force india are the biggest losers of the tyre change, lotus does not seem to be nearly affected much and ferrari not conclusive.

  6. Jon Sandor (@jonsan) said on 9th July 2013, 19:03

    Whatever is done under the safety car is bound to be unsatisfactory from the standpoint of some teams/drivers, so I don’t think there is any point in tinkering with the rules. The driver who is advantaged by a SC at one point (Webber on Sunday, Hamilton at Silverstone) may well be disadvantaged somewhere else.

  7. GT_Racer said on 10th July 2013, 1:07

    Seems more than a few people at FOM are unhappy about the new restrictions & that includes most of the camera guys who work in the pits.

    All the new restrictions will mean is less interesting coverage of the pit lane & less will be picked up. For example if a car comes in with some damage on the ride side of the car & the pit wall is on the left, Your not going to see the damage when in the past you would have a camera operator there to get a close up shot.

    The only thing that needed to be done is to get the camera guys to be more aware & not turn away from oncoming traffic unless they have a spotter (As used to be the case when I was there).

    Its a knee jerk reaction, Not well thought out & I would not be surprised to see things back to normal for 2014.

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