Setback for Russian Grand Prix bid

F1 Fanatic Round-up

Andreas Sigl, Nikolay Buturlakin, Sebastian Vettel, Oleg Zabara, Sochi, 2013In the round-up: An impasse between the Russian Automobile Federation and the promoter of the planned Russian Grand Prix puts the race in jeopardy.


Your daily digest of F1 news, views, features and more.

Russia’s F1 Application Snarled Up in Red Tape (RSport)

“The issue at hand is a spat between the Russian Automobile Federation and the race promoter Omega Center, which is also building the 5.9km track around the coastal Olympic Park. The RAF is refusing to file a race application with the FIA until Omega, which is tied to the Krasnodar region government, agrees to bear the cost of training the 700-800 personnel required to staff the race such as marshals and security.”

Franz Tost Q&A: Vettel?s team mate has to bring a lot to the table (F1)

“Remember: when Seb left Toro Rosso to join Red Bull Racing, the team was in no way the winner that it is today – Seb has contributed a lot to make it happen. So if you want to be the new kid on the block you better have all these facts in mind – and show even more commitment to come at least close to Seb. That will be a rough ride!”

Indian Grand Prix to take one-year break (The Hindu)

Indian Grand Prix promoter JPSI managing director and chief executive officer Sameer Gaur: “October-November period suits us better, both weather-wise as well as it being the festive season. But if the Formula One Management (FOM) wants us to hold our race in March 2015, we don?t have any problem with that.”

McLaren Formula One team improving, but still struggling mightly (Autoweek)

Jenson Button: “You can run your own strategy, because you can overtake easily. As soon as you get to tracks where you can overtake you can then just run to optimum performance, and you get a better picture of where you are then.”

Maldonado expects Williams surge (Autosport)

“Before, I was completely dominated by the tyres and the car. They were not working at all in my case. Now, I think it was so clear that my level was a step forwards and I was able to fight with cars that are stronger than us.”

A miracle from Lewis (Sky)

Martin Brundle: “It was cruel that [Romain Grosjean] was penalised for completing the move on Massa while being marginally all four wheels off the track. Without doubt the drivers will see this as a disincentive to ‘have a go’ and create those magic moments people still talk about years later. The trouble is that the rules are very clear about leaving the track between the white lines and gaining an advantage or position. If it was a barrier or a gravel trap he wouldn’t have even contemplated it.”

Gary Anderson on Hamilton, Ferrari and scrapping DRS (BBC)

“The FIA has its priorities wrong in taking away the potential for drivers to do moves like [Grosjean’s on Massa] but giving them the ridiculous DRS overtaking aid to create artificial overtaking manoeuvres.”

F1 flashback: Driver illegally starts German Grand Prix (NBC)

“A dismayed Heyer was just four hundredths of a second of Rebaque?s mark ?ǣ and there were two other drivers quicker than him who also fell short of qualifying. But Heyer was not to be deterred from making his grand prix debut by the inconvenient fact of having failed to qualify for it.”

Becca and Lisa?s Silverstone Adventures, Part 1 (Motorsport Muesli)

Nice cartoon.

Mark Webber: Five things I can’t live without (Daily Express)

Something tells me one of these five was inserted for PR purposes…


Lotus, Silverstone, 2013

F1 Fanatic reader David Wallace (Twitter: @davidhw2506) got a close look at the Lotus during the young drivers’ test at Silverstone and sent in this picture of the car.


Comment of the day

Nick says the problems faced by the Indian Grand Prix shows F1 needs to work harder on its races in new venues:

F1 needs better entry-strategies in new countries. People aren?t going to warm up to F1 if it?s the only race to come around to their country, once a year.

Bernie [Ecclestone] and the FIA need to drag along more series and the FIA (provided that they or an affiliate are present in such a country) could try to introduce karting championships or celebrity races with touring cars. Not just go ‘Oh, well, F1 is amazing, so they will flock to us!’
Nick (@Npf1)

From the forum

Happy birthday!

No F1 Fanatic birthdays today

If you want a birthday shout-out tell us when yours is by emailling me, using Twitter or adding to the list here.

On this day in F1

The last German Grand Prix at the Nordschleife is mainly remembered for one thing: the fiery accident that almost killed Niki Lauda, which is set to feature in the forthcoming film Rush by Ron Howard.

The race was stopped after Lauda’s crash and James Hunt won ahead of Jody Scheckter and Jochen Mass. Meanwhile Lauda was fighting for his life.

Here’s some footage from the race:

Advert | Go Ad-free


142 comments on Setback for Russian Grand Prix bid

  1. Jueta (@eljueta) said on 1st August 2013, 8:59

    Thank you Gary Anderson for summing up what is wrong and right with F1

  2. “The trouble is that the rules are very clear about leaving the track between the white lines and gaining an advantage or position. ”

    Except the stewards seem only to enforce the rules against someone overtaking.
    Vettel clearly (to me at least) left the track twice on lap 19 of the Hungarian GP when defending against a charging Grosjean. Doing so allowed him to carry greater speed through the previous corner – something he wouldn’t have been able to do had there been a barrier or a gravel trap there – and helped prevent Grosjean getting close enough to attempt a pass.
    That seems like gaining an advantage to me.

    If the rule is only to be enforced against someone attempting an overtake, then it should state as much. Otherwise, it should not be enforced selectively.

    • RAMBOII said on 1st August 2013, 11:10

      Likewise Alonso clearly got an advantage last year in his pole-lap in Germany by leaving the track with for wheels of the road. It’s only applied for overtaking. In defending, a driver can put someone off track, when there is no gravel (see Hamilton – Maldonado at valencia) but you can’t put a driver off track when there is gravel (see Vettel – Alonso in Monza). Both moves are the same, they both push the attacking driver wide, but Vettel got the penalty for pushing someone wide, Hamilton didn’t.

    • Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 1st August 2013, 21:38

      I’m not sure whether running wide is necessarily always faster. However, when you overtake someone, you would be in front so if the running-wide slows you down, you may still be able to remain in front if it is not possible to overtake afterwards.

  3. Nick (@npf1) said on 1st August 2013, 9:36

    Thanks for the COTD, @keithcollantine!

  4. WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 1st August 2013, 10:13

    In the highly unlikely eventuality that Raikkonen joins Vettel next year, I think it is Vettel that is in for a “rough ride”. I am being consistently bowled over by the sheer brilliance of Kimi’s races, such as that beautifully executed two-stop strategy to 2nd at the weekend. If Raikkonen joins Red Bull, can “settle down” quickly, I see no reason why he can’t summon more of that incredible race pace he has and put Vettel under real pressure. And remember, Vettel has’t exactly experienced real pressure for a teammate in F1 before, aside for midway through 2010 when Webber was flying…and we all remember Turkey 2010. It would be really nice to see Vettel under some form of pressure, especially because he is still a driver that arguably makes mistakes when under pressure, just look at 2010, and even during the race at the weekend, he made a rather over-optimistic attempt at passing Button, thus damaging his front wing, because of the pressure from Grosjean behind. And that is exactly why Vettel is stamping his feet in an office somewhere demanding that Ricciardo signs on the dotted line.

    • RAMBOII said on 1st August 2013, 11:14

      Button went wide, so Vettel saw his chance. We were racing at the hungaroring, not an oval, so he had to try.

      Vettel also won 4 races in a row when he needed them en the pressure to perform were well and truly on him in 2010 as well as in 2012. Not to mention the points he lost due to mechanical failures in both seasons.

      And then you’re using kimi as the one to not crack under pressure? The only season he really had to get back on in, was 2008 and he crashed in both Singapore and Spa and made silly mistakes and rather dull qualifyings in other races, arguably costing him a chance of a world championship.

      • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 1st August 2013, 17:37

        Vettel made a premature and ill-conceived lunge at a gap that didn’t exist. The fact that Button went wide arguably made it harder for Vettel to overtake, because it covered off the outside line around turn 2, which as Hamilton proved twice, is effective in that it places you on the inside for turn 3.

        Vettel never won four races in a row in 2010, and in 2012, Red Bull brought a raft of pieces designed for the RB9 and put them on the RB8 as of the Singapore GP. Because the RB9 was an evolution of the RB8, it allowed them to develop both chassis in tandem in later stages of 2012, unlike McLaren, who were taking a more revolutionary approach to the MP4-28. This gave Red Bull as sizable advantage for several races, and in saying that Vettel won four races when he needed them, you are simply illustrating the car advantage he had at that stage of the season. I don’t really see how that’s relevant anyway, because when Vettel has a car advantage Vettel is under no pressure at all…it’s not as if Webber is a threat.

        In terms of Raikkonen in 2008, that was a very different Kimi. Raikkonen always said that he was not comfortable with the F2008, especially in qualifying, and it was clear to even the most casual onlooker that it was a chassis that suited Massa better. The mistakes in 2008 derived from this lack of affinity with the F2008, not pressure, although how you can say that his spin in Spa on slicks in the wet whilst most other drivers were going for wets or joining Kimi in the barriers, was “silly”, seems rather harsh. Vettel’s mistakes in 2010 were done to pressure however. At the Turkish GP Vettel had had to watch Mark take another pole and lead much of the race, ontop of wins in the previous two races, so Vettel did something about… Then there’s the Belgian GP, where Mark took pole whilst Vettel outbraked himself in La Combes placing himself fourth on the grid, so Vettel did something about it…

        • David-A (@david-a) said on 1st August 2013, 21:04

          Then there’s the Belgian GP, where Mark took pole whilst Vettel outbraked himself in La Combes placing himself fourth on the grid, so Vettel did something about it…

          Yes, he did do something about it. And that’s recover from Spa to win 3 races on his way to the title.

    • Was there something F1 related in that little “I hate Vettel” diatribe?

      • mnmracer (@mnmracer) said on 2nd August 2013, 10:21

        Couldn’t find any. Just a lot of stamping feet, fairy tales and “see this one example? he does this all the time, despite the fact I only provide one example”. He must also believe Fernando Alonso misses chickens in Brazil all the time.

  5. Becca Cann (@beshoreblue) said on 1st August 2013, 10:57

    Wow, thanks for the link @keithcollantine! Logged onto my blog this morning and was very confused about suddenly having a ton of views…

  6. Havergal said on 1st August 2013, 12:07

    Like Mark, I can’t live without my [this space for sale].

Add your comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

All comments must abide by the comment policy. Comments may be moderated.
Want to post off-topic? Head to the forum.
See the FAQ for more information.