Raikkonen ‘pursuing Ferrari’ after Red Bull rejection

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Kimi Raikkonen, GP3, Circuit de Catalunya, 2013In the round-up: Kimi Raikkonen’s manager confirms his driver will not race for Red Bull next year.

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R??ikk??nen ei siirry Red Bullille (Turn Sanomat, Finnish)

With Raikkonen not moving to Red Bull in 2014, as confirmed by his manager Steve Robertson in this article, the way is clear for Daniel Ricciardo to join the team.

Raikkonen ‘wants Ferrari F1 return’ (BBC)

“[Eddie] Jordan said Raikkonen had made a return to Red Bull his first priority but when talks with the world champions broke down, he turned his attention to Ferrari.”

Red Bull coy on Ricciardo rumours (ESPN)

“Red Bull has refused to dismiss a report that Daniel Ricciardo will be announced as Mark Webber’s replacement at the Belgian Grand Prix.”

Hulkenberg says Sirotkin F1 move ‘risky’ (Autosport)

“Me, I wasn’t ready for Formula 1 at that point. It is ambitious, maybe a bit risky, but it’s not my decision.”

On the red carpet (Motorsport Monday)

Toro Rosso technical director James Key: “I felt that the belief in being cable to compete at a higher level was not there with everyone. It’s just a case of [coming in] and saying that there’s no reason why we can’t do it, no one has written down that we need to be a P9 or a P8 team we can do better than this.”

A provincial backwater (The Way It Is)

“The last all-American victory at Le Mans was scored 46 years ago in 1967 when Dan Gurney and AJ Foyt drove one of Carroll Shelby’s Ford Mk IVs to a legendary win. On the face of where were are today with no American drivers, cars or teams competing internationally at the top levels of the sport and both IndyCar and American sports car racing in the doldrums, we can only guess that none of these things are likely to happen again.”

I was there when… 2000 Belgian GP (MotorSport)

“The cars had indeed touched ?ǣ to this day the damaged front wing endplate from [Mika] Hakkinen’s car sits in Martin Whitmarsh?s office.”

Flashback: Belgium ??68 – the first of many wins for McLaren (F1)

“There then came a grave moment when something broke on Brian Redman?s Lotus coming into Les Combes, pitching the Englishman forcefully into the barriers. He was lucky to escape with a broken arm, whilst an injured marshal was airlifted to hospital.”

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@William-Brierty names Robert Wickens as another driver who deserves a crack at F1:

He did a hugely impressive test for Renault in 2011, shortly after taking the Formula Renault 3.5 title; a series that has arguably produced better young drivers of late than GP2.

In the DTM he took the now statutory shaky first year in the series, but is now easily one of the series? front runners, which is high praise in a series that features such a eclectic mix of touring car and single seater stars.

Equally high praise is that he is now arguably Mercedes? fastest driver, deposing Gary Paffett, who for all of the “nearly, but not quite” insults chucked at him is still a very good racing driver.

With Williams currently perusing the Mercedes DTM squad for a driver to enroll into a young driver programme following their engine tie-up with Mercedes, I?d advise them to forget Daniel Juncadella and get themselves a Wickens.
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190 comments on Raikkonen ‘pursuing Ferrari’ after Red Bull rejection

  1. Force Maikel (@force-maikel) said on 20th August 2013, 9:29

    I think Ferrari never felt comfortable in the manner they had to discharge Kimi Räikkönen. I mean they really wanted Alonso, who we all know is considered by many the best driver on the grid. At that time they still had massa who was recovering from his crash. Firing him when he was still recovering would not only have made Ferrari look bad, I think it would also have made a lot of Ferrari followers and Tifosi quite unsatisfied. So they just paid Kimi his dues and sent him on his way to rallying. The fin himself wasn’t at ease anymore in F1 and was trying to expand his horizon. No doubt he was quite satisfied when Ferrari offered to pay him off. Now 3 years onwards it seems that these two parties might meet again and engage in a new sort of marriage.

    Many have claimed Kimi Räikkönen was angry at Ferrari for kicking/forcing him out but that doesn’t seem the case, in fact the Red Bull talk never materialised in real negotiations, so that means kimi was way more interested in the offer that was made to him by Ferrari at Silverstone. Signalling these two never held any grudge towards one another.

    No matter what Eric Boullier claims, when your company is 120 million in debt and you haven’t paid your driver a single euro, no way is that driver going to stay around to see the world collapse around him. Lotus might have fought itself a way to the top, when it comes to finances they are playing a really dangerous game.

    • Jack (@jackisthestig) said on 20th August 2013, 12:02

      Great point about Lotus. Whether or not the rumours of Kimi not being paid are true or not they just can’t afford him. Boullier mentioned they were keen on Hulkenberg, imagine walking into that mess after the year he’s had at Sauber (talk about ‘Out of the frying pan…’).

      The only driver Lotus should be chasing is Maldonado and his $46m yearly cheque from Venezuela (providing he still gets that backing now that Hugo Chavez is dead). With that sort of income and Kimi’s $20m a year off the books, more than half of their debt would be wiped away.

      • Force Maikel (@force-maikel) said on 20th August 2013, 14:11

        Exactly @jackisthestig, It just shows that Boullier is talking a lot off nonsense lately, he is claiming Kimi is going to stay and that all is well, he can’t fire Grosjean because then Total will revoke their sponsorship as they threatened Lotus with at the end of 2012 when they tried to get rid of Romain. So why on earth does he find the need to involve Hulkenberg into this? Right…… Kimi is talking to Ferrari and is most likely going to go there just so that he stays with a top team, if Boullier wants to continue denying the facts and facing the real world then that’s his problem but with Allison gone and so much debt I doubt Lotus is going to get a decent car like they have now together, unless off course they can configure their current E21 into something that fits the new regulations. And even if they pull that off it remains to be seen if something like that actually delivers results.

        Concerning Malonado it would be quite fruitless chasing that dream. The deal that Chavez put his signature under was between Williams and PDVSA, Maldonado gets to drive 5 years and then it needs to be renegotiated. Even if Maldonado wants to go to Lotus next year he wouldn’t get that pay check and PDVSA would place another one of their Venezuelan puppets in that car. It’s as simple as that.

  2. Denis 68 said on 20th August 2013, 11:21

    I still find it difficult to believe that Raikkonen will return to Ferrari next year, but I hope it’s true.

    Imagine 2014 Alonso and Raikkonen in a Ferrari together? the rest of the field will be irrelevant to me as I will only be following the Ferrari’s and their two driver’s battles.

    Bring it on.

  3. montreal95 (@montreal95) said on 20th August 2013, 11:40

    Great round up today Keith! The pieces by Gordon Kirby and Nigel Roebuck are especially fantastic reads.

    I remember how I was so disgusted after another fantastic performance by Alesi had ended up with nothing to show for it. But then, Mika’s overtake made me feel a bit better

  4. karter22 (@karter22) said on 20th August 2013, 11:48

    I find it interesting that everybody keeps saying that KIMI at RBR would have been good beause he would have given SV a good run for his money. Even though I agree with that, SV would´ve outqualified him just as Grosjean has a couple of times but, Kimi would´ve had better races but then again, we will never know beause someone might have flexed their “muscle” and must´ve had a say in picking a team mate. Ricciardo moving to RBR is going to be a sad move… He is going to be next year´s whipping boy and the designated bodyguard on track! It is sad but hey, it´s a business!

    • maybet said on 20th August 2013, 15:44

      never cease to amuse me how people underrate kimi’s qualifying capability.

      there are a few odd ones when Kimi struggle to get heat into the tires, however…next year new reg and new turbocharge engine gonna run double figure of torque. The only concern is overheating rather than not able to heat the tire.

      It gonna suit kimi like honey and milk.

    • How much say does Vettel have at Red Bull. He’s won three straight championships yet they wouldn’t let him take the win in Malaysia despite being clearly quicker. I couldn’t imagine a Hamilton or Alonso winning three straight championships and not being given number one driver status.

      • iFelix (@ifelix) said on 20th August 2013, 16:49

        +1
        the fact the team order went out like that and not “Sebastian is faster than you” shows that Vettel’s status is not comparable to that of Alonso in Ferrari or even Kimi in Lotus.

    • @karter22 he’d out-qualify him more than a couple of times: in fact, I don’t see much reason to suggest he wouldn’t fair significantly better than Mark did in qualifying! I would bet my bone marrow that Vettel would’ve been nothing like Grosjean relative to Kimi.

      I also don’t think it’d be as conclusive as many seem to suggest in the races: I think they’d be fairly close actually depending on the circumstances. If in traffic, I think Kimi’s greater experience in that respect would show through. If at the front though, Vettel is a dab hand at just getting to the front quickly and staying there.

    • nickpkr21 said on 21st August 2013, 8:57

      well I think of all Ricciardo is the fastest qualifiers so give him a redbull for more than a couple hrs and I’m sure he can do at least what vettel does with it, at least it seem from last YDP.

  5. Rigi (@rigi) said on 20th August 2013, 12:06

    i remember when everyone was speculating about ferrari kicking out massa at the same time last year. it should’ve happened back then, but it didn’t. i wonder what makes everyone so certain that massa is going to loose his seat at ferrari this time? perhaps he’ll find himself a little bit of pace again, like he did last year. my guess is that we’re gonna see the exact same line-up for the 4 top teams in 2014 (with an exception of red bull, where ricciardo will most likely get the seat)

    the only thing i’m wondering about is, how long can alonso talk about ferrari like this? if i were di montezemolo, i’d consider kicking alonso out of the team before massa, who suffers the same issues as alonso but doesn’t moan about it to anyone that wants to hear it.

    • Shreyas Mohanty (@) said on 20th August 2013, 14:49

      @rigi Alonso is at his prime and he is a double WDC. He has pushed his mediocre machinery to levels higher than it deserves – just look at ’10 and ’12. He has a right to be frustrated – he wants more titles.
      Massa is, well, um, Massa.

      • Rigi (@rigi) said on 20th August 2013, 15:35

        @shreyasf1fan
        there’s a diffrence about being frustrated and being a *ick
        alonso constantly moaning about his car will not make it better all of the sudden
        the ferrari crew aren’t going to be euphoric about hearing this, in fact it puts way more pressure on every single crew member, fearing the aftermaths of a simple mistake

        to be honest i think alonso has lost his prime and is turning more and more into a person that i dislike. (and he used to be my favourite driver!)

        • Shreyas Mohanty (@) said on 20th August 2013, 16:26

          @rigi This was the first time he complained, as far as i know. And Alonso is still in his prime, and undoubtedly the best driver on the grid.

          • Rigi (@rigi) said on 20th August 2013, 17:26

            @shreyasf1fan well, maybe the first time he complains this directly. he made a lot of comments last year about bad development of the car, and even this season he was complaining a lot. how could you miss that?

            about your second sentence… i’d agree if we were in 2012, but this year… no

          • @shreyasf1fan it’s far from “undoubtable” – you’d have a fair argument for alluding that Hamilton or Vettel were better (at least currently).

          • Shreyas Mohanty (@) said on 20th August 2013, 18:30

            @vettel1 Well, yes, touché. Vettel has most certainly been consistent and fast this season. For the first time I have felt that if he wins this championship, it shall be 100% deserved. But you cannot deny Alonso a solid form this season, barring Malaysia. But Hamilton, no, he was having tremendous issues with his braking, and was being outperformed by ROS. He has been stellar for the last 2-3 races – but at the halfway mark i would say Vettel-Kimi-Alonso-Lewis. :)
            I expect Hamilton to be charging in the second half, though.

          • @shreyasf1fan interesting you’d put Lewis where you did and it’s actually a fair point but I tend to give him some leniency as of course he was in a new team with a completely different way of operating. Alonso has been strong as usual but in the context of 2012 not so much – that’s applying very harsh standards though so I definitely agree a top 4 performer, although I’d personally have Vettel-Räikkönen-Hamilton-Alonso (on the basis of what I said earlier) :)

            Anyway that’s just me being nitpicky on one detail ;)

          • Shreyas Mohanty (@) said on 20th August 2013, 20:20

            @vettel1 Well you do have a point there. So I guess Alonso vs Hamilton remains undecided for the first half. ;) Let’s see who has the upper hand in the second half. :)

          • @shreyasf1fan in the end it’s the overall performance that matters of course, just ask Vettel (who had a good start to last season but a great end) :)

        • Force Maikel (@force-maikel) said on 20th August 2013, 18:16

          @rigi Well I think Alonso is right when he complains about the car, he is the star driver of Scuderia Ferrari and they are in this sport to win, if they can’t give him the machinery then he has every right to complain just as much as Button has that same right to complain about his MP4-28. There is a major difference however when one driver can achieve good results and one does not. Example. Button-Hamilton in the first half of the 2012 season

          I also agree with @shreyasf1fan, yes Alonso has made two uncharacteristic in Malasia and Bahrain. His race in Hungary was not his fastest either but that was partially his F138. Still he has had great races this year like China, Spain and Great Britain. So I’d say he is still in his prime but the form of 2012 is not currently there but I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts improving after the summer break.

          • Shreyas Mohanty (@) said on 20th August 2013, 18:34

            @force-maikel Yep, as a die-hard fan of Ferrari and Alonso, I am hoping Ferrari has made full use of the time – of course their factories were shut down, but not their brains :) Call me an idiot, but Alonso for WDC! :D

      • 2010 was a great car. Ferrari started the season with a 1-2, had a 1-2 in Germany, both cars on the podium in Korea and Italy. Considering how bad Massa has been since his accident that shows it was a great car. Consistently quick throughout the season too. If Vettel was in that car he would have won the championship with it.

        2012 the Ferrari wasn’t as quick as the fastest car (McLaren), but it was by far the most reliable car on the grid which enabled Alonso to steal a lot of podiums. He also had a lot of good luck, whether safety cars coming at the perfect time, scoring heavily when his closest rivals scored little or nothing, never had a problem in the pits, no punctures, when his car was poor in the first four races the Red Bull was also weak.

        I mean it was a solid season for Alonso in 2012 but I thought Hamilton drove better.

  6. WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 20th August 2013, 12:13

    If we are to believe the rumours flying around at the moment we could end up with Alonso at Red Bull, Raikkonen at Ferrari, Hulkenberg and Maldonado at Lotus, di Resta also at Ferrari, oh, and what was that headline that appeared on the BBC Sport website about a year ago…Vettel to Ferrari in 2014! Everyone apart from Ferrari’s current race drivers is being linked with Ferrari, with Alonso being linked with Red Bull and Massa being linked with a comfy retirement home. It is all rubbish. OK, this is marginally more feasible than some of the other rumours flying around, but we already know that a) Raikkonen and Ferrari doesn’t work and b) di Montezemelo doesn’t want “two cockerels in one hen-house”. Raikkonen is staying where is, as is Alonso, as is Vettel. The “big four” of Alonso, Hamilton, Raikkonen and Vettel have found teams where they are comfortable, and they will stay put for a few years now. End of.

    On another note, thanks for the COTD Keith.

  7. Edward F (@fedward) said on 20th August 2013, 12:38

    I’d imagine Buemi and Alguersuari are fairly hacked off at present…

  8. I’m just enjoying these snaps between Alonso and Montezemolo. I want to see if Luca turns up in Spa to hand Alonso his pink slip personally, or if he just hides in his office and bangs out another screed for the “horse whisperer”. Alonso is testing his authority now.

    Can’t say that I see Alonso going back to Lotus. Maybe his Santander money is enough to get them back in clover, but I still have a hard time believing that a Spanish Bank, in these dark days in Spain, is breaking off the same kind of money for sports sponsorship as back in the pre-09 days.

    Anyway, I guess Massa is breathing a sigh of relief every time Alonso and Luca start playing the dozens. But I still think that at Ferrari it’s time to clear out Massa, Stefano, Smedley and start over, even with a young guy in the car. The 2008-era crew has done not much there.

  9. Breno (@austus) said on 20th August 2013, 17:52

    Raikkonen to Ferrari, Massa out of F1, Ricciardo to Red Bull, Hulkenberg to Lotus, Sirotkin or Bianchi to Sauber, maybe?

  10. liam (@) said on 20th August 2013, 20:37

    Bold headline to make.

  11. Heinz said on 20th August 2013, 22:00

    Red Bull “Rejection”??
    We do not know enough to say that, not by a long way.

  12. nickpkr21 said on 21st August 2013, 9:05

    Hamilton move appear stupid and greedy, guess everyone want one of those nowdays !

  13. phil9079 (@phil9079) said on 22nd August 2013, 8:38

    Raïkonnen’s thoughts: yeah yeah, I know what I’m doing!

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