Row 1 | 1. Sebastian Vettel 1’23.755 Red Bull | |
2. Mark Webber 1’23.968 Red Bull | ||
Row 2 | 3. Nico Hulkenberg 1’24.065 Sauber | |
4. Felipe Massa 1’24.132 Ferrari | ||
Row 3 | 5. Fernando Alonso 1’24.142 Ferrari | |
6. Nico Rosberg 1’24.192 Mercedes | ||
Row 4 | 7. Daniel Ricciardo 1’24.209 Toro Rosso | |
8. Sergio Perez 1’24.502 McLaren | ||
Row 5 | 9. Jenson Button 1’24.515 McLaren | |
10. Jean-Eric Vergne 1’28.05 Toro Rosso | ||
Row 6 | 11. Kimi Raikkonen 1’24.61 Lotus | |
12. Lewis Hamilton 1’24.803 Mercedes | ||
Row 7 | 13. Romain Grosjean 1’24.848 Lotus | |
14. Pastor Maldonado 1’25.011 Williams | ||
Row 8 | 15. Paul di Resta 1’25.077 Force India | |
16. Esteban Gutierrez 1’25.226 Sauber | ||
Row 9 | 17. Adrian Sutil* 1’24.932 Force India | |
18. Valtteri Bottas 1’25.291 Williams | ||
Row 10 | 19. Giedo van der Garde 1’26.406 Caterham | |
20. Charles Pic 1’26.563 Caterham | ||
Row 11 | 21. Jules Bianchi 1’27.085 Marussia | |
22. Max Chilton 1’27.48 Marussia |
*Three-place penalty for impeding Lewis Hamilton
2013 Italian Grand Prix
- Hulkenberg voted Italian GP Driver of the Weekend
- Race rating slump continues at Italian Grand Prix
- 2013 Italian Grand Prix team radio transcript
- 2013 Italian Grand Prix fans’ video gallery
- 2013 Italian GP Predictions Championship results
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Younger Hamii (@younger-hamii)
7th September 2013, 14:05
Shocking.
Eggry (@eggry)
7th September 2013, 14:05
That’s it.
Eggry (@eggry)
7th September 2013, 14:08
seems like Red Bull has reached 2011 level of performance. the rest of the season would be waste of time.
Eggry (@eggry)
7th September 2013, 14:12
I has wondered Ferrari’s towing tactics actually works. They would gain in straights but they would lose in corners. I know Monza is most straight-full track but I always has had doubt about the idea.
Mike Dee (@mike-dee)
7th September 2013, 14:18
It works in theory. But in practice, I think it mainly is a huge distraction as you need to get it absolutely right.
Eggry (@eggry)
7th September 2013, 14:21
@mike-dee Yeah, I think it worked in Q2 but not in Q3…shame.
Tyler (@tdog)
7th September 2013, 14:20
@eggry didn’t they try the same trick at Monza last year in qualy and stuff it up then?
Eggry (@eggry)
7th September 2013, 14:22
They always failed in final crucial moment. It’s time to abandon the idea.
evered7 (@evered7)
7th September 2013, 14:25
Worked for Massa last year. Alonso had a parts failure when he attempted his Q3 lap.
Mouse_Nightshirt (@mouse_nightshirt)
7th September 2013, 14:05
Ha! I would hope I’m not the only one who is incredibly satisfied that Alonso’s and Ferrari’s contrived attempt at giving him an advantage flopped badly.
Shreyas Mohanty (@)
7th September 2013, 14:07
You pretty much are, there’s nothing wrong with a team trying that trick to improve position. Get professional help, there’s slight damage.
celeste (@celeste)
7th September 2013, 16:15
No, he isn’t
Mouse_Nightshirt (@mouse_nightshirt)
7th September 2013, 19:53
Yeah, a little bit personal there.
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:07
@mouse_nightshirt I think it’s hilarious haha! They ought to just do it properly!
David not Coulthard (@)
7th September 2013, 14:12
I think the mistake was a bit funny (read: I’m a Red Bull fan), but it doesn’t really satisfy me since I wouldn’t have minded if Ferrari did try to do it. I mean, it’s legal, and the Spirit of the Rules wouldn’t have minded.
Patrick (@paeschli)
7th September 2013, 14:14
Massa wants that Ferrrari seat next year haha :D
Great job from him today but Hülkenberg was the man!
Chris (@tophercheese21)
7th September 2013, 14:45
Ironically, compromising this tactic might in fact put him in an even worse position for next year.
Patrick (@paeschli)
7th September 2013, 17:30
Well, he needs somehow to show the people at Ferrrai that he has some pace, which he has done. He’ll probably give Fernando his position back tomorrow during the race …
Alex (@korbendallas)
7th September 2013, 14:14
It didn’t work two years in a row! Maybe they can reprise USGP to pop Alonso up a place, since Massa broke the rules by driving faster than his team mate.
Shreyas Mohanty (@)
7th September 2013, 14:06
Massa : Screwing Ferrari since eternity :|
Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
7th September 2013, 14:07
@shreyasf1fan more like Ferrari screwing itself since eternity. When a team needs to work such strategy to just fight for a place in the front row it’s their fault, not the drivers that cannot make a tow work which is fairly difficult in F1 cars.
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:07
exactly … it’s payback time
Eggry (@eggry)
7th September 2013, 14:09
Haha, I have to admit I laughed when Alonso said Felipe is too far even though I’m a Ferrari fan.
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:11
felipe is……….. faster……. than…………..you
puneeth Bharath (@puneethvb)
7th September 2013, 14:26
Well the last three and a half years has not really proved that Felipe is faster than Fernando… has it?
Anyway that was pretty stupid from Ferrari to try that.. it was never going to work..
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:45
@puneethvb I was talking about the moment not his entire career .
Shreyas Mohanty (@)
7th September 2013, 14:11
@eggry Yeah that was embarrassing as an Alonso fan :p
Eggry (@eggry)
7th September 2013, 14:14
@shreyasf1fan well that was embarrassing but still we can laugh at it and move on :D
I believe Alonso has a fair chance to win tomorrow.
erix
7th September 2013, 15:38
That was embarrassing, he should speak in Italian.
Patrick (@paeschli)
7th September 2013, 14:16
Well we criticize Felipe when he is too slow and now you gonna criticize him when he’s ahead of Alonso? :P
Massa deserves a seat in a top team but I think he must leave Ferrari to a team who can really give him a chance
Guilherme (@guilherme)
7th September 2013, 14:17
@shreyasf1fan Of course, Massa should slow down and give up on getting some slipstream himself (from Webber) to help Alonso… :/
TMF (@)
7th September 2013, 14:19
How so? Alonso had a pretty big mistake in S2.
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:06
Brilliant irony as Keith said with Ferrari – well that went badly.
Fantastic result for Red Bull and particularly Nico Hülkenberg – Ferrari, are you watching?
Well done to Ricciardo yet again and horrible result for Hamilton and Räikkönen.
What an eventful qualifying!
JackySteeg (@jackysteeg)
7th September 2013, 14:06
Poor Vergne. I suppose because he finished that lap and it was the only one he did in Q3, he’s going to have to start on those tyres he dragged through the gravel.
Patrick (@paeschli)
7th September 2013, 14:17
I didn’t thought of that :s
It’s gonna be tough race for him, especiallu with Kimi and Lewis behind him!
TMF (@)
7th September 2013, 14:29
I think he can get them replaced if they are damaged.
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:47
@tmf42 I assume only if they’re deemed to be damaged to the extent of being unsafe, but you are correct.
Traverse (@)
7th September 2013, 14:07
Hulkenberg should get the Ferrari seat ahead of Raikkonen.
toiago (@toiago)
7th September 2013, 14:07
Incredible effort from Hulkenberg!
Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
7th September 2013, 14:08
Won’t somebody please give a better drive to the Hulk??
Diego (@ironcito)
7th September 2013, 14:08
With Massa, a Sauber and Webber ahead of him, Alonso may well be 2nd after the start.
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:42
Unfortunately Vettel would have gone for a holiday to the mountains by then :( . Red Bull seem to be shattering rivals to bits.Unless something dramatic happens , Tomorrow is Vettel’s race to lose.
iAltair (@)
7th September 2013, 14:09
I don’t quite understand why Ferrari depend on Massa to give advantage to Alonso.
toiago (@toiago)
7th September 2013, 14:11
It’s just a desperate attempt from Ferrari to get Alonso up the grid a bit. But, as others said, it sort of backfired.
Dave (@)
7th September 2013, 14:33
Don’t worry, Massa’s gearbox will ‘fail’ like it did at COTA last year.
Matts_F1 (@ayrtons6094)
7th September 2013, 14:09
Rather boring and disappointing quali..happy for hulk though.
Timothy Katz (@timothykatz)
7th September 2013, 14:10
What do we think about Sutil – 5 place penalty?
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:13
Unfortunately that will do nothing to change Hamilton’s position . He blew his banker . Had to pay the price . But I think Red Bull were unstoppable today. So no big deal . Maximum he could have got 3rd to 6th . Disappointed for Kimi and Rosberg too. :(
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:16
@hamilfan he wasn’t improving though I don’t think on that lap, so I doubt it’d have made much difference at all anyway. It all fell to pieces when he ran wide at the exit of Parabolica…
Patrick (@paeschli)
7th September 2013, 14:19
I disagree, Sutil ruined two laps for Hamilton.
The one at the Parabolica where he was hindered and the next lap where he didn’t had the straight-line on the pit-straight because of Sutils error at the Parabolica.
MNM101 (@mnm101)
7th September 2013, 14:24
HAM was supposed to do a better lap before the one with the parabolica incident, he said it himself on BBC
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:31
@vettel1 That’s what I meant when I said he blew his banker. Anyhow let’s see what happens in the race . Maybe a top 5 would be good.
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:49
@hamilfan ah, I see ;) Well, it’s forecast to be wet…
@paeschili I’m not disagreeing with you by any means, but had he got the banker in he may not have ended up behind Sutil at all.
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:53
@vettel1. On the contrary , my friend , happily for you it’s forecast to be VET ;)
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 16:24
@hamilfan – we’ll see, both are decent wet drivers (as is Hülkenberg) – I wouldn’t mind him getting a debut win!
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 14:29
as far as Sutil is concerned , I don’t think they should give him a penalty . Its just the nature of parabolica I think
TMF (@)
7th September 2013, 14:31
you gotta look at telemetry and team radio communication to judge this – so we’ll see. It looks bad but might not be Sutil’s fault.
caci99 (@)
7th September 2013, 14:51
Wasn’t Sutil on a hot lap himself?
Mayank (@mjf1fan)
7th September 2013, 14:11
Massa you did it perfectly. I loved when Alonso said on radio- Felipe is too far ahead.
On a serious note great great drive from Hulk. He deserves a top seat..either Lotus or Ferrari. And as usual Seb was just amazing.
David Margono (@woshidavid95)
7th September 2013, 14:13
Both Lotuses eliminated in Q2 along with Hamilton amd Hulkenberg in 3rd place for Sauber? I did not see that coming. Somebody please give Hulkenberg a seat at a decent team, preferably Lotus or Ferrari, he’s the most deserving candidate and definitely more capable than Ricciardo who got a Red Bull seat mostly due to Toro Rosso’s connections with Red Bull. I just hope he doesn’t end up like Bottas did at Montreal.
Patrick (@paeschli)
7th September 2013, 14:20
+1 It would be great to see him on the podium tomorrow :D
David Margono (@woshidavid95)
7th September 2013, 14:27
He would already be on the podium at Interlagos last year if he didn’t punt Hamilton out of the race… I felt that his drive-through penalty was quite unfair as it was because of the rain but anyways, tomorrow is his best chance of getting a podium since Interlagos last year, fingers crossed that he doesn’t go backwards like Bottas did at Montreal. He’s driving a lot like Kubica did for Renault in 2010, pushing the car up to positions it has no business being in.
liam (@)
7th September 2013, 14:13
FF Forza Ferrari? more like Ferrari Farce. Hamilton was a shambles s was Kimi. It’s over. Also I loved how Jean-Eric Vergne tried to have the yellow flags deployed, by yanking his steering wheel to the left onto the gravel, that was no accident.
Shreyas Mohanty (@)
7th September 2013, 14:18
@liambo Why would JEV do so?
Patrick (@paeschli)
7th September 2013, 14:21
Especially when he wants to show RB he deserves that seat …
Great car control from him on the gravel btw, I would have crashed into the wall :P
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:21
@liambo if you’re implying that was to help RBR, what utter nonesense.
liam (@)
7th September 2013, 14:25
What Red Bull?
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:53
@liambo yes, Red Bull Racing.
bezza695 (@bezza695)
7th September 2013, 14:29
he as you said “yanked” his wheel left because he had oversteer and was correcting it and the front end gripped up too much for what he was expecting
liam (@)
7th September 2013, 14:59
I know JEV didn’t do that in purpose- I take that back. Just P’d Off that not one of THREE ..Kimi, Lewis and Alonso challenged Vettel for pole. It’s been another short season. always next year ;)
AlokIn (@)
7th September 2013, 14:15
Incredible hulk !! deserves better car.
Sutil mixing professional and personal life. don’t deserve to be in F1.
Already penalised in Canada for the same mistake.
Libellula (@ladyf1fanatic)
7th September 2013, 14:16
@keithcollantine: please can you tell us what happened to Kimi and Lewis? I’m sat here at Ascari Tribune… Almost all the 20 people I’ve been with all the week-end…we’re just gutted! We thiught Ferrari could have been on pole! Twitter is full of angry comments and insults to Sutil… Really annoying Saturday! why that man was allowed to come back in F1?
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:19
@lafyf1fanatic put simply, Lotus weren’t quick enough and Hamilton screwed himself over by running wide at the exit of parabolica. Ferrari screwed themselves over partially (although I don’t think they were quick enough for pole) by failing to properly execute the towing strategy and Sutil was just really clumsy (I hope; I would hate if that were intentional).
Max Jacobson (@vettel1)
7th September 2013, 14:20
@ladyf1fanatic
Libellula (@ladyf1fanatic)
7th September 2013, 14:38
We also have people here saying that Fernando has ‘insulted’ Ferrari over the radio, calling them names!. Something Schumi never did in his time there! :( What a Saturday! OMG! Well I hope the other guys can make up from where they will start.
Jon Sandor (@jonsan)
7th September 2013, 14:50
This is why I wish the FOM would release Alonso’s radio messages. I suspect there’s some pretty juicy stuff in them.
Jon Sandor (@jonsan)
7th September 2013, 14:48
Alonso did as well as could be expected, really. He’s effectively starting on the second row (will Massa have his gearbox seal broken again?) and second row is an outstanding start position for him, all things considered.
Hamilton has been struggling for the last couple of days. His off-road excursion in Q3 was only the latest mishap – he went off in the same place in practice and has missed chicanes/braking points several times.
yoyoyo
7th September 2013, 16:34
I read that sutil slowed Hamilton at the parabolica, but Hamilton was already slow at the first sector 28.8… 1.5 slower then vettel at first sector. maybe it was the lap before, but I thought that was hamiltons warm up lap…
evered7 (@evered7)
7th September 2013, 14:22
Best possible result for Ferrari. Alonso can take over 4th or 3rd (courtesy Webber) at the start and hopefully chase the Red Bulls.
Best for also scoring a little more WCC points as Merc and Lotus are not in the best of their shapes in this race.
vjm
7th September 2013, 14:24
Stunning lap by Vettel. Never saw it coming.
iAltair (@)
7th September 2013, 14:28
Something must be wrong if you had not seen it coming from P2 and P3. Hahaha.
Mike Dee (@mike-dee)
7th September 2013, 15:44
… and Q1 and Q2 and his first lap in Q3…
bezza695 (@bezza695)
7th September 2013, 14:27
Fernando’s comment over team radio was ridiculous
Slava (@)
7th September 2013, 15:32
So as his team which can’t provide a good car for ages.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
7th September 2013, 15:57
@bezza695 More on that here:
Alonso defends ‘perfect’ tactics after radio complaints
Alonso’s radio message in qualifying at Monza
Todfod (@todfod)
8th September 2013, 8:35
Not as ridiculous as his team’s imcompetency
mixwell (@mixwell)
7th September 2013, 14:30
brilliant. Ferrari strategy backfired and am so glad massa is ahead.
absolute perfect drive by Sebastien and Nico. Ferrari should hire him and Kimi and be done with it.
this whole sutil vs Hamilton thing is getting retarded.
Alex (@korbendallas)
7th September 2013, 14:35
If you didn’t mean it, don’t say it in the first place. Plenty of vile statements have been followed with “it was a joke”.
mihakase
7th September 2013, 14:38
Alonso himself said Massa had slowed down so that he could gain approx 0.15s from slipstreaming.
Not only did Massa *not* screw Alonso / Ferrari, he may have actually had the pace to place better in qualifying. Baffling that commenters are blaming him, frankly.
yoyoyo
7th September 2013, 16:24
At the start of the year, after a few races, I thought to myself, if Mercedes is going to win at any track, it would be monza, and maybe spa. now they are 6th and 12th. the last race at spa the pole was a bit lucky because of the rain, and it seems like redbull have stepped up after the summer break, while as usual, Mercedes will fade as the year goes on. McLaren are starting to up their game now I feel, like they did in the bad 2009 season when they improved greatly towards the end of the year.
faulty (@faulty)
7th September 2013, 16:35
All eyes on Row 7 at the start?
Hamilfan (@hamilfan)
7th September 2013, 18:06
@faulty Kimi , Romain , Lewis , Pastor .. OMG … why does that sound gut wrenching ? add to that Vergne in front
Shreyas Mohanty (@)
7th September 2013, 20:43
@hamilfan When you put it that way, ****. Monza has a reeaallyy narrow turn 1.