Jenson Button, McLaren, Singapore, 2013

Rate the race: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix

2013 Singapore Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Jenson Button, McLaren, Singapore, 2013What did you think of the today’s race? Share your verdict on the Singapore Grand Prix.

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  1. The circuit always looks good, some nice battles away from P1, but no overarching drame. 7

    1. Mercedes eyes Massa for DTM seat Toto Wolff has admitted Felipe Massa

    2. 7 seems to be my baseline now. Actually for once I think Vettel romping away put front actually improved the race in a contrived way – his sheer pace was just mesmerising. It was better than a “standard” 10 second win I’d say.

  2. 8/10 – SC and different strategies made it extremely interesting in the end. But Vettel is unstoppable in this form.

    1. I don’t think the safety car did much to improve the race… But the strategies were indeed quite interesting. Overall the race was rather boring, allthough the last 10 laps had a redeeming character.

  3. 7 maybe there wasn’t a fight for the lead but the safety car made for some great midfield racing and I loved watching the 2 Mercs and Webber fight through the field,
    Also brilliant move by the Raikkonen on Button

  4. I feel bad for Mark Webber. How can one car be so good and the other so bad?

    1. Team mysteries.

    2. The better you are, the luckier you get

    3. Both had trouble during the last race. Vettel’s gearbox problems were all the talk before the race. He was being warned of brake vibrations near the end. And he retired with gearbox problems in Britain. But alas, people see what they want to see.

    4. @jackal40

      How can one car be so good and the other so bad?

      It isn’t.

      1. I don’t think he meant the difference in the technical problems, but on the (race) pace. We all know Vettel is faster than Webber, but by about two seconds each lap? Seems a bit unreal.

        1. Seb books it at the start and gets away in clear air whereas Mark gets held up in traffic, makes a lot of the difference.

        2. Hasnt Vettel been qualifying over 1s faster than everyone, bar Mercedes, all year long?

      2. well we can say the same to Alonso and Massa or Raikkonen and Grosjean

      3. Let’s be honest – this year Webber has had a lot more unreliable car than Vettel, as if there are two Red Bull teams

        1. Let’s be honest – this year Webber has had a lot more unreliable car than Vettel

          Not really before this race. I think it was pretty even.

    5. the man behind it makes the difference, that’s all

      1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
        22nd September 2013, 15:33

        So you’re saying that Webber was the reason for his water pressure dropping and killing the engine?

        1. I’m pretty sure you know that he means the substantial performance deficit between him and Webber… no excuse for it, either Vettel is just that good and/or Webber is underperforming.

        2. C’mon are you serious? Do you really think that I wanted to say that… there are a awful lot of occasions that Vettel was superior to Webber, even when he had a problem free car

      2. Sorry, I don’t buy that. Were that the case, Alonso, Hamilton, and Kimi would never have any problems. I just find it odd that Mark seems to have more problems than Vettel.

        1. That is the word, seems, but reality is that he doesn’t have more problems than Vettel

        2. @jackal40
          So you’re going to deny cold hard statistics? Doesn’t matter what it appears to be, what matters is what it actually is, which in this case is that Webber does not bear the brunt of Red Bull’s reliability issues and that he has nothing on Vettel.

    6. Agreed. I don’t see how SV can get so far ahead of everyone after the safety car, and how his team mate can be so far behind (in the same car). It smacks of… …and I like SV.

      1. There is no conspiracy. I’m not sure why anyone, the face of statistics, still wants to suggest there is. Why would *any* team, much less one that’s currently first in the WCC, purposely sabotage, or whatever you want to call it, one of their drivers?

        Anyone who seriously believes this to be the case needs to go and educate themselves. Please. For your own sake.

        Either way: race 8/10 for me!

        1. *in the face of statistics, rather

        2. I dont think its a conspiracy. Its obvious that Vettel is in great form and Mark really isn’t motivated to do anything much for the rest of the season.

    7. Don’t overlook one important fact.

      Vettel was running in clear air for the majority of the race. Webber was in some way or another stuck behind another car.

      1. Then he has no one to blame but himself for not qualifying better, the score-card is already 13-0.

      2. Yes, this makes sense, but then that means the front runner will rarely be challenged and something should be done to ensure cars can race/follow closely without the issue of running in “Dirty Air”. How many races in the last few years have we seen where the leader has been challenged?!

    8. maybe we should start to acknowledge that Vettel is the best driver in F1. a lot of people refuse to believe that, but all the signs are there – consistency in high level results

      , always beating teammate, fast in qualifying and in race, no tyre wear issues ever, and the most obvious sign HE IS FASTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE. he is the modern master. From what I have seen in the past 3 years in driver speed and consistency and especially speed during the race, Alonso, in a third best car is his closest equal, he would produce similar results to vettel in the same car, I do not believe any of the others would, raikonnen, hamilton, buton – they would be closer to Webbers level.

      1. In a dominant car, Jenson Button made everybody bar Barrichleo look like GP3 drivers.

  5. Alonso was amazing today, from 7th to 2nd with an unbelievable start. Good fight at the end for 5th place, good 7/10

    1. If you call from 7th to second amazing what would you call from 13th to third?

      1. Very good also, but the start of Alonso was really impressive.

        1. So, one is amazing and the other very good? Who of them did pass their rivals on the track?

          1. Pretty sure Alonso passed cars on the track too, unless he started his race in the sky…

          2. @davef1

            Passing cars at the start is not the same as passing cars when they’re going at full pelt. Raikkonen’s pass on Button was far more tricky than Alonso’s 3 car drive by at the start. Most of all because the cars in front of Alonso were fighting with each other and paid no attention to Alonso.

          3. @baron-2

            Exactly, Alonso’s start was amazing an awesome but Kimi’s race was also amazing so I don’t know why the OP tries to understimate it

          4. @oletros

            Oh come on man, he thinks Alonso’s start was impressive. He is allowed to think that.

        2. We know Vettel’s good results are all due to his fantastic car.
          I think it’s obvious that Alonso is nothing special, and it’s just his car allowing him to have great starts.

          1. There was a *sarcasm* mention here but the comment system trimmed it off.

      2. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
        22nd September 2013, 15:21

        @verstappengp If you look closely, he just appreciated Alonso. He didn’t mention Raikkonen. There is no meaning of a spiteful comment. If you didn’t hate Alonso, you would say “yeah, amazing job from kimi too gaining 10 places”

    2. It was a normal Alonso GP – he botched qualifying and started behind where he should have been, then made up for it with a great start. You could write those same words about virtually every GP for the last few years.

      1. Well, if you look back to his championship years, it was often a knack of him/renault too, so I guess either he has his team focus on starts or is just good at them.

        1. And likely both @bascb and @jonsan, he’s good at it, so knows it is useful to focus there. Especially when the team is lacking in ultimate pace, that is a smart choice, I’d say. And an exciting one to see too.

          1. indeed. Wouldn’t we all love it if Vettel did something like that at times instead of just decimating the field by being 0,5-2 seconds faster a lap!

          2. @bascb

            I’m pretty sure if Vettel did qualify worse and made great starts people would still complain about either his lack of qualifying pace or his cars awesome traction off the line.

          3. Yes, people are highly inventive when finding things to complain about @baron-2!

      2. I think he is not quick enough over 1 lap .

    3. Yea Alonso was absolutely amazing through the first corner, after that nowhere near as what you would expect from him.

      1. well, the other in front of him sucks..wey dont he get Vettel..

    4. It’s gotta be one of the best starts I’ve ever seen.

      Having said that, he problem with going for the outside is eventually someone will push you off.

      He does make good use of the outside of the track however doesn’t he… I think other drivers should start taking note of this.

  6. Great race! Excellent racing especially towards the end from the top 10 or so drivers. Excellent drive from Alonso and Kimi in particular, can’t believe either of them got a podium! Such a shame that Vettel was so dominant but you can’t fault him really. Its incredible how he gets all the luck with the car though, really feeling for Webber on the last lap.


    1. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
      22nd September 2013, 15:10


  7. If nothing will change with new regulations, F1 will lose another spectator. Teams really need to cut the budgets. One man drive.

  8. 7/10 – It would have been good to see another face on the podium this year (Button). Otherwise, it definitely perked up in the second half of the race.

    Vettel was just in a league of his own, Raikkonen with a great comeback drive with the bad back. They were drivers of the day.

  9. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
    22nd September 2013, 15:09

    7/10. Plenty of overtaking and close fights. But one blingy car was 20s ahead of its opposition, so no fight for the most important position. I’m pretty sure Vettel fans are bored too.

  10. Engrossing stuff. 8/10.

  11. I’m very tired of Vettel, but today’s race was fun. Safety Car spiced things up and stirred some strategy battle. Well done by Alonso!

    2 of the drivers I predicted to be in top 5 didnt make it to the end, how sad…

    1. i rated it 7 btw

    2. I don’t particularly enjoy Vettel domination either, but you’ve gotta admit that performances like today show how much he deserves to be a triple world champion. No-one else stood a chance.

      1. Vettel drove amazing today. Its just such as shame this title will be tarnished due to his main competitor being crippled by the mid season tyre rule changes. Just like in 2003.

        It takes nothing away from his performance, but does take away from the enjoyment of some great drives.

        We had a close championship up until then. Which cant be denied.

        taking nothing away from seb, isnt his fault. His team played the politics brilliantly. Just sad for the sport.

        I sadly feel thats where many of the fans frustrations are coming from. Its hard to take the season seriously.

        1. Anything to take credit away from the man. It’s the tyres, it’s the car, it’s Horner “playing politics”. Ugh.

          I used to dislike Vettel too. What helped change my mind, in addition to his incredible and seemingly growing talent, is the irrational disdain so many F1 fans seem to have for him. They hate him. Why? Because he’s good. Senna was good. Schumacher was good. Both of them, at times, had incredibly dominant cars. Both of them, at times, tried to run other drivers off the road or are suspected to have deliberately rammed them. Vettel has never done that. He’s as clean a racer as anyone in the field. His car is good, but nowhere near Senna’s McLaren of Schumacher’s Ferrari in comparison to the rest of the current field. The crushing victories he’s enjoyed, including this most recent one, have been his (and his team’s) because they’ve earnt them. By being better than everyone else, and doing it within the rules.

  12. last 10 laps were excellent, like everyone woke up suddenly…

  13. The beginning was dreadfully uneventful, save for the brief skirmish between Perez and Hulkenberg. Safety car didn’t really help matters, but the ending stages did redeem it somewhat – lots of tension, position-swapping and a sudden fire. On balance, however, it’s hard to overlook the opening half. 4/10 for me.

    1. Pretty much how I saw it, another race ruined by tyre conservation, those opening laps should have been a great battle between Alonso & Webber instead it was “maintain a 2 second gap Mark”, only Kimi was racing in the 1st.stint, showing that you can pass if you sacrifice your tyres. Safety car livened up 2nd. half but I can’t get excited by drivers with shot tyres holding up drivers for a lap or two before they inevitably get passed.
      2 Renault engine failures!!!!
      5 points, only because of the Webber, Rosberg, Hamilton carve up, 4 without.

  14. I used to want Vettel to win because I liked him. Now I also want him to win because everyone wants him to lose :D

  15. It says something when the commentators choose to talk about the 40th anniversary of the safety car than the race itself. I think F1 is gonna loose a lot of viewers after this year.

  16. Every time I think “well, surely the next race can’t be more boring than that,” it is somehow even more boring. 3/10.

    1. I think must have switched off before the last 15 minutes, those did a lot to give it a solid ending

      1. I watched the last 15 minutes, and thought they were great. Unfortunately, an hour and 45 minutes of “zzzzzz” isn’t offset by 15 minutes of great racing.

    2. Huh? Did you even watch the whole race?

      1. Yes I did, thank you very much. Last 7-8 laps were great, first ~50-55 were horribly boring.

        1. I can only agree, but that track is just not prone for a good race. It is sooo hard to overtake on, and if it wasn´t for tires falling of the cliff, and the different strategies, very few overtakes would have been made. Even the DRS was almost without effect this year. 4/10 for me – one big star for alonso’s start, and 3 stars for the last 9-10 laps.

          1. when David Croft was talking about Webber passing Hulkenberg he said
            “That is his last chance till turn 7 on the next lap” that is a sign of a bad track nearly 9/10 turns of procession before he can press a button to overtake.
            Spa and Monza are good tracks but had dull races, this place hadn’t a hope in shell of being average let alone good. don’t worry though because Korea is next :D the home of motorsport…oh wait

    3. Aside form watching the safety car for half a dozen laps, what did you find boring? There was always close racing somewhere on track and plenty of random drama on top of a faultless Vettel and a courageous Kimi. 8 out of 10!

  17. 9. That was the best race for ages, lots of action all through the field with the safety car causing the split in strategy and making the second half of the race very entertaining. Whatever you think of Vettel you surely have to marvel at the ridiculous speed he and Red Bull displayed today. I know Rosberg was holding the field up but to pull a 30 second lead in 10 laps or whatever it was was incredible.

  18. The multi-billion pound one man show continues. Ferrari, Mercedes, Lotus and McLaren should be ashamed of themselves.

    Formula 1 is Number 1 in raking in money, that’s about it, add the horrible tracks and you have the best Motorsport in the world…;) yeah right. ZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZ

  19. 4/10

    The excitement in the final 10 or so laps does not make up for having 50 laps of procession and tyre/heat management.

    1. @philereid Agreed, the first half was absolutely woeful. 5/10 for me.

    2. @philereid to see cars trodding along saving their tyres instead of attacking is getting to be very boring .

    3. Yeah, a good end doesn’t change the fact it was one of the most boring races of the season. 4/10

    4. Agreed. +1 for no or very few DRS passes. 5/10.

  20. Ha ha, “he made”? You should say “his car”, come the first lap he already had 2 seconds over the following car.

    1. I don’t recall WEB using “his car” to do the same!

      1. Shreyas Mohanty (@)
        22nd September 2013, 16:10

        @sankalp88 Vettel is obviously better than Webber. The stark difference between the two owes much to Webber’s poor starts because of which he has the job of recovering and hence a LOT of dirty air – and RBR’s main strength is aero, which is hampered due to a lack of clean air in case of Webber. Vettel, however, is mostly either on pole or on P2, hardly even P3 and he is in the lead within the first 2 laps, thus getting excellent clean air. Vettel is a great driver for not making mistakes – but then, is he really fighting for positions that he will make mistakes? Basically what I am saying is Webber can dominate that way too, if not for his poor starts. Credit where it is due though – Vettel is very consistent.

        1. @shreyasf1fan

          but then Webber comes out in clean air after his last pit stop and doesn’t shine either. He didn’t even mount any serious attacks on Alonso in the first couple of laps, and you know Vettel would have (and Alonso would have – Spain being an excellent example of pressuring cars in front and getting past them).

          Webber may be complaining about the tire management, but he’s either fallen off in form (mentally at least), or Vettel really is that much better than him now (being 26, Vettel still is still getting better year after year), or Vettel flatters the RB. Probably a combination of those things.

      2. In most people’s mind, Webber must be the worst driver ever in F1 if they call Vettel an average driver in the best car. Can’t explain the logic of other people otherwise.

    2. He pushed his car to the very limit. How does that have any less limit than what Raikkonen and Alonso did?

      It’s not Vettel’s fault Alonso and Raikkonen had mediocre qualifying sessions.

    3. Webber never does the same, Webber beat Rosberg in the same machinery, you work out the rest.

      1. good point…

    4. That must be why they’ve got Vettel instead of a random nobody who they could pay nothing. Heck, they could put Taki Inoue in the car and he would win. But what does that make Mark Webber, he must be a terrible driver.

    5. Yet Webber wasn’t capable of overtaking cars despite the supposedly 2-3 second advantage the car gave him.

      1. Hardly anyone was able to overtake despite a supposedly big advantage, until the end when it became more like 5s a lap though, by which time Webber was trying to nurse that gearbox, so that alone doesn’t mean much @baron-2

        not that I mean to step into the ‘Vettel won because the car is so great’ – if it wasn’t so great he wouldn’t have been over half a minute ahead, sure, but even then, he wouldn’t be 3rd time, going for a 4th, WDC if he wasn’t something special.

    6. there are 2 of those cars on track..

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