Webber to get grid penalty after lift from Alonso

2013 Singapore Grand Prix

Fernando Alonso, Mark Webber, Singapore, 2013Mark Webber will receive a ten-place grid penalty for the next race after being given a lift to the pits by Fernando Alonso after today’s Singapore Grand Prix.

Alonso stopped to pick up his rival after his car broke down on the final lap of the race. Webber rode back to the pits on Alonso’s sidepod.

The stewards ruled Webber had “entered the track without the marshal’s permission between the commencement of the formation lap and the time when the last car enters parc ferme” and handed him a reprimand.

As this is Webber’s third reprimand of the year he will automatically receive a ten-place grid penalty for the next race. His previous reprimands came in Bahrain, for contact with Nico Rosberg, and in Canada, for going too quickly while yellow flags were displayed.

It is the second time a driver has received a grid penalty for collecting three reprimands – Pastor Maldonado also did at the Brazilian Grand Prix last year.

Alonso was also given a reprimand for driving “in a manner which could be deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person”. The stewards added “two cars had to take avoiding action” when Alonso stopped to pick Webber up. This is Alonso’s first reprimand of the year.

Webber gave Alonso a lift in a similar fashion at the Nurburgring in 2011.

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189 comments on Webber to get grid penalty after lift from Alonso

  1. Ed Marques (@edmarques) said on 22nd September 2013, 20:56

    Most idiotic decision that i’ve heard in F1.
    Simply ridiculous.

  2. bosyber (@bosyber) said on 22nd September 2013, 21:28

    I wonder if this will make drivers be more wary of picking up a reprimand when showing borderline behaviour. After all, that is part of the idea of having several reprimands result in a strong penalty.

  3. Art Weinschenk said on 22nd September 2013, 21:52

    To reprimand two of the greatest drivers in the history of F1 for an act of comradery truly amazes me!
    Ahhh Well, the attending crowd loved it and so did I. So much for the stuffy stewards. Sometimes rules just need to be broken.

  4. StefMeister (@stefmeister) said on 22nd September 2013, 22:12

    There’s an external view of Webber running over to Alonso’s car on this website:

  5. Cornflakes (@cornflakes) said on 22nd September 2013, 22:13

    FIa stamping out as much entertainment as possible again

  6. Travis (@mcmerctn) said on 22nd September 2013, 22:28

    This looks terrible, and I assumed the grid penalty was for the lift, which isn’t true. I can see why they were reprimanded for it, which is appropriate, but it’s just hugely unfortunate that this particular reprimand caused the grid penalty.

  7. This is ******* ridiculous. Cctv camera shows that it wasn’t that bad. And these drivers are the best in the world. I’m sure Hamilton didn’t have any trouble avoiding them. As for Webber safety he was for sure safe with his leg in the cockpit.

    • tmekt (@tmekt) said on 23rd September 2013, 9:10

      One leg in the cockpit actually makes it more dangerous. And it certainly was “that bad”, the cars were travelling probably close to 100 kph and you can clearly see how nearly one of them misses Webber. Would have been most likely fatal if he had been hit.

      It’s not as if degree “badness” of situation even matters. Webber broke the rules and therefore should be penalized.

  8. UTBowler0407 (@utbowler0407) said on 22nd September 2013, 23:07

    Seeing the actual video really changed my view on this. In principle I’m not against having one driver helping another back to the pits, but stopping on the racing line, around a blind corner, forcing other cars to take evasive actions, then speeding up to highway speeds with Webber hanging on (and having his leg partially obstructing Alonso’s view)? Yeah, the stewards were well justified there.

    Alonso’s reprimand I understand fully, but Webber’s….I dunno, I could see them going either way on that. Just depends where he was standing before Alonso picked him up. Ultimately, Alonso is in control of his own car.

  9. Under *these* circumstances, I don’t give a rat’s backside about the “rules” … this was good sportsmanship, friendly, and the right thing to do (plus the fact that for anyone who can “remember back” this was a common courtesy — traditional in F1 — and a very nice thing to see.) Horner and RB, and Ferrari, should appeal this one, if the rules allow an appeal.

    After sixty years of watching GP/F1 racing I’ve never seen anything so stupidly ridiculous.

  10. johnny stick said on 22nd September 2013, 23:17

    I think it was great that Alonso picked up Webber: it really showed me how small the cars really are. I would never have had this sense just watching the normal TV coverage.

  11. Hilarious comments today. Webber and Alonso both knew the penalties for this activity and they chose to ignore it. They deserved any penalty they got.

    It’s one thing inadvertently breaking safety rules, it’s quite another to blatantly disregard them.

  12. Keith writes: “The stewards ruled Webber had “entered the track without the marshal’s permission between the commencement of the formation lap and the time when the last car enters parc ferme…”

    When did Webber leave the track? After all, he can’t enter (or re-enter) without leaving. I’m pretty certain I saw him on the track for about 59 or 60 laps…

    • When did Webber leave the track?

      When his car failed & he was forced to pull off.
      He pulled his car up an escape road & went behind the barriers, He then ran back onto the track without been told he was allowed to while other drivers were still going round, this breaks a rule thats in every category for safety reasons.

      • Paul A (@paul-a) said on 23rd September 2013, 0:23

        Twenty two people had an absolute right to be on the track — they’re called “drivers.” Alonso and Webber were two of them. The petty bureaucrats might be right that “behind the barriers” is “off track”, but then so are the pits.

        Two of the world’s greatest drivers didn’t think it was dangerous … why the heck do you defend the armchair umpires? Really, didn’t you think that it was a most courteous, friendly thing to do?

        • There’s a difference between been on the track driving the cars & a driver walking onto the track while cars are still driving around.

          The regulations are perfectly clear on this, The only people allowed to walk on the wrong side of the barriers while cars are circulating on the racetrack are the marshal’s. A driver is only allowed to providing he is given permission to do so, Webber did not ask for & therefore was not given permission to go onto the track.

          I can’t see how anyone can argue against the reprimand given how absurdly dangerous it was & how it was a blatantly obvious breach of the regulations which are in place lets not forget for the drivers safety.

          Two of the world’s greatest drivers didn’t think it was dangerousAnd those who had to take avoiding action did feel it was dangerous.

          Its not about preventing drivers been given lift’s back to the pits, Its purely about ensuring its done safely. Stopping on the racing line on a blind corner, Forcing others to take avoiding action & having drivers running across a track (Without permission) is not safe or sensible.

        • BasCB (@bascb) said on 23rd September 2013, 7:20

          nope @paul-a. A driver is on track driving his car, but when he stops and gets out he has to get off the track, and into safety, ASAP.
          Only Marshalls are allowed to be on track, and medical people if needed, until after the race.

  13. Question for those who seem outraged with the reprimand.

    Do you think it is acceptable for a driver to disregard the regulation, not gain the permission of officials to go onto the racetrack, Risk his own safety & the safety of other drivers by running across the track to jump onto another drivers car?

    And for Fernando, Is it acceptable for him to stop in the middle of the circuit causing cars to need to take avoiding action?

    They both acted dangerously, Mark broke the regulations (your not supposed to run onto an active track without approval of officials) & so the reprimand is 100% justified in my book!

  14. Bobby (@f1bobby) said on 22nd September 2013, 23:33

    The second there is a moment of colour, emotion or excitement along come the stewards to make everything a dull shade of F1 grey again.

  15. People need to read that its not the running into the track by itself that earned the penalty, its the fact it is the third reprimand. Which I thought was harsh until watching that vid from a spectator.

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