Webber to get grid penalty after lift from Alonso

2013 Singapore Grand Prix

Fernando Alonso, Mark Webber, Singapore, 2013Mark Webber will receive a ten-place grid penalty for the next race after being given a lift to the pits by Fernando Alonso after today’s Singapore Grand Prix.

Alonso stopped to pick up his rival after his car broke down on the final lap of the race. Webber rode back to the pits on Alonso’s sidepod.

The stewards ruled Webber had “entered the track without the marshal’s permission between the commencement of the formation lap and the time when the last car enters parc ferme” and handed him a reprimand.

As this is Webber’s third reprimand of the year he will automatically receive a ten-place grid penalty for the next race. His previous reprimands came in Bahrain, for contact with Nico Rosberg, and in Canada, for going too quickly while yellow flags were displayed.

It is the second time a driver has received a grid penalty for collecting three reprimands – Pastor Maldonado also did at the Brazilian Grand Prix last year.

Alonso was also given a reprimand for driving “in a manner which could be deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person”. The stewards added “two cars had to take avoiding action” when Alonso stopped to pick Webber up. This is Alonso’s first reprimand of the year.

Webber gave Alonso a lift in a similar fashion at the Nurburgring in 2011.

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189 comments on Webber to get grid penalty after lift from Alonso

  1. Paul2013 said on 22nd September 2013, 23:36

    The stewards should receive a penalty not Weber.

  2. Dafffid (@dafffid) said on 22nd September 2013, 23:41

    Trying to decide which decision most makes me want to give up on F1: this, or cutting to fireworks after Vettel crossed the line but while there was still racing going on. Thanks Bernie, I know what a firework looks like. Thanks FIA, why do you think I’m looking forward to Rush more than every race of the season put together. There are still moments, but if you take away the extreme danger and only leave the appalling coverage (that is still light years behind other major sports) and the petty officialdom, there’s nothing left. Tyre management, DRS overtaking and no joy whatsoever… zzzzzzzz. If i wasn’t employed to write about the rubbish that F1 has become I think this would be the end.

  3. Michael Brown (@) said on 22nd September 2013, 23:55

    What I’m getting in the comments is that it’s acceptable to break a safety regulation, as long as it involves getting a ride on another driver’s car.

    • Paul2013 said on 23rd September 2013, 7:44

      Yeah well I imagine you will be the type of guy that would support to fine fans for entering the track to celebrate in front of the podium.

  4. ScuderiaVincero (@scuderiavincero) said on 23rd September 2013, 0:23

    Looks like we leave Singapore the same way we left its northerly neighbor, with a slightly bitter aftertaste. I know it’s in line with the current rules and regulations, but it feels like political correctness gone wrong.

  5. Irejag (@irejag) said on 23rd September 2013, 1:20

    I can understand the safety issues involved, but a ten place grid penalty is just retarded. Reprimand them, yes. Penalize one of them, no. If anything, Webber should have been given a fine to satisfy the safety issue, but anything more than that is over the top.
    I for one was glad to see Mark being given a ride back. He had just driven a good race and had I been there I would have stood and clapped as he soared by on Fernando’s car.

    • They were each given a reprimand, however, Webber has already gotten 2 this season making this his third. Three reprimands = 10-place grid penalty.

      The explanation can be easily found in the article if people actually bothered to read and understand it.

  6. Xander (@xander) said on 23rd September 2013, 2:17

    I am a huge fan of Webber and am very disappointed to see him get the 10 place penalty for his 3rd infringment. As a big critic of the nanny state mentality I think Webber was not only getting a lift back with his good mate Alonso, but that he was giving the big two fingers up at the establishment. I remember watching that Mansell / Senna interaction as a kid and miss it in this day and age.

    That said, did anyone see the GP2 cool down lap from Race 2 in Singapore. Leimer t-boned Rossi hard. Now imagine if someone had been sitting on that sidepod. I shudder to think of the carnage that would have caused.


    So, rules might be rules, but they exist for a reason…

  7. troutcor said on 23rd September 2013, 4:22

    There is another topic on here about the booing of Vettel.
    Several posters there noted that – while booing is wrong – Vettel has not been able to endear himself to fans.
    He should take a lesson from Alonso on how to be human, and perhaps that would change.
    But sadly, it seems that the corporate cyborg is what the powers-that-be favor.

  8. Bruno (@brunes) said on 23rd September 2013, 5:03

    wow… over 100 ks with the sitting there.
    And 40 ks going around a 90o bend doesnt seem like much, but on a road car that would be enough for my gf to scream. imagine having to hold on to the car.

  9. tmekt (@tmekt) said on 23rd September 2013, 9:19

    A prime example of people unfairly complaining about stewards’ rulings once again before knowing the facts. Pathetic.

    They are there to make the sport safer for everybody and if you think that NOT punishing for clear breach of safety regulations is the way to do that you should probably get your head examined.

  10. didn’t hakkinen get a similiar lift from coulthard after that last-lap engine blow up at cantalunya 2001? any idea if they were reprimanded?

    • GT Racer (@gt-racer) said on 23rd September 2013, 11:01

      They were not because Coulthard didn’t park on the racing line & Mika asked for & was given permission from the marshals to walk back towards the circuit.

      The reprimands given yesterday were not for the actual lift, It was because the way they went about it was dangerous.
      Fernando stopped on the racing line & Mark didn’t bother asking for permission to run back onto the circuit.

      If Fernando had pulled off the circuit & parked on the run-off area he would not have got the reprimand & had Mark asked for & been given permission to re-enter the circuit he also would not have been given a reprimand.

  11. CanOBeans (@canobeans) said on 23rd September 2013, 9:47

    Agree with a reprimand for Webber, annoyed it is his third. Probably highlights the ‘me’ attitude of 99% of F1 drivers, I am sure others knew Webber was there, and looking for a ride, and just kept going…. How else did Alonso know he was there and pull over??!!

  12. Alzarius (@alzarius) said on 23rd September 2013, 10:21

    I like Mark, but that was dangerous. Even if he could judge that Hamilton and Rosberg were far enough away for him to run to Alonso’s car, you never know if they could avoid Alonso’s parked Ferrari in the middle of the track. Remember, after the race, drivers are frequently turning their head and looking to the crowd and waving at their fans, and may not have 100% full attention to the track in front of them. That makes it dangerous.

  13. Zanquis said on 23rd September 2013, 11:19

    Sorry yes safety should be first, but I think this is a case of safety should not be viewed through the eyes of amateurs like us.

    The eyes and reflexes of a formula one driver are way better trained. What might be seen as a close call to us, would feel like a easy avoid obstacle for most drivers. If no driver complained then I would not see a problem here. otherwise you just voted for streetracing to be unsafe. They where going slow, all of them. And most could probably avoid it even at race speed.

    Yes there are rules but i think penalties like these should be done for things that affect the outcome of the race. BEFORE the finish flag drops. So a fine should be more in its place then a grid penalty.

  14. snowman.john (@snowman-john) said on 23rd September 2013, 12:50

    Nice to see the lift on TV, but completely deserved on both counts. Going against the instructions of the marshals is a big no no. Alonso stopping dangerously on track is silly as well, especially after the crash during the warm down lap in GP2.

  15. splinky said on 23rd September 2013, 13:09

    Both Alonso and Webber can consider themselves lucky because they have experienced Merc drivers coming behind them. If there are less experience drivers, then I shudder to think what would happen

  16. Jono (@me262) said on 23rd September 2013, 13:16

    reprimand for what was arguably the best spectacle from the last 2-3 races? Vettel wins races, diresta not making it out of Q1, kimi’s aversion to interviews…alonso and webber giving each other lifts, its what they do ok? but its not ok, their on the parade lap for goodness sakes, why werent the mercedes drivers reprimanded for going too fast on the parade lap? why do they have to rid the little spec of entertainment for the fans after the singabore of a gp. topsy turvy stuff, FIA are getting bored too, need to reprimand. Drivers not getting along sells stories and gathers interests from non F1 fans…let the circus carry on

    • GT Racer (@gt-racer) said on 23rd September 2013, 14:39

      why werent the mercedes drivers reprimanded for going too fast on the parade lap?

      Because there is no regulation saying drivers have to slow down on the parade lap, They can actually drive as quickly or as slowly as they want.

      Also like many others you confusing what the reprimand was for, The reprimand was not for the lift, It was because of the way Alonso stopped on track, Suddenly braking/stopping on the racing line forcing others to take avoiding action & because Webber as it turns out disobeyed the marshals instructions & ran onto the circuit.

      Now that its been reported that Webber actually disobeyed the instructions of the marshals I feel even more convinced the reprimand was correct. The marshals are there for the safety of everyone involved & its completely unacceptable for anyone to ignore or disobey there instructions.

      I’ve seen drivers sent home from club race meetings for disobeying the instructions of the marshals so in that sense Mark got off very lightly.

  17. GT Racer (@gt-racer) said on 23rd September 2013, 15:18

    Recommend everyone reads this article which clearly explains the entire situation & why the reprimand Mark got was 100% correct.


  18. troutcor said on 23rd September 2013, 21:08

    Let’s be honest.
    If safety is the No. 1 concern for Formula One racing, there would be no Formula One racing.
    Its appeal exists because it has dangers.
    To be intellectually consistent, those who care only about Formula One’s safety should be campaigning to end its existence.

  19. Boris (@daftmosquito) said on 24th September 2013, 18:40

    Something’s rotten in the realm of F1!

    Watch this (1’38”):

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