Crashgate’s shadow still lingers five years on

F1 history

Nelson Piquet Jnr, Renault, Singapore, 2008The most notorious piece of cheating ever seen in Formula One took place on this day five years ago.

Fernando Alonso’s victory in the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix raised questions as he began the race using an unusual strategy and benefitted from an early Safety Car period which came out about his team mate had crashed.

Yet despite suspicions about the race being raised in its immediate aftermath it took almost a year for the matter to be investigated and the conspiracy exposed. Once it was the ill-gotten victory was not confiscated and punitive action was largely confined to individuals who had already left the sport.

Five years on, can it be said the FIA took the Crashgate scandal seriously? Or did it conduct a hasty investigation which unearthed no more than it was supposed to?

“I’m going to need a miracle”

The genesis of the scandal in Singapore began ten weeks before that race, at the Hockenheimring. As lap 36 of the German Grand Prix began Timo Glock lost control of his Toyota, striking the pit wall. It was a heavy impact, the Toyota skidding down to the first corner. The Safety Car was summoned while the wreck was recovered.

Nelson Piquet Jnr had made his second and final pit stop two laps earlier. This being two years before in-race refuelling was banned, Piquet had taken on enough fuel to the end of the race.

The rules also meant that immediately after the Safety Car came out no one could venture into the pits. Once they were allowed to come in Piquet was handed 11 places, and went on to lead the race and take a lucky second place. His frustrated team mate Alonso finished out of the points in 11th.

On Saturday morning at Singapore things were looking up for Alonso. He’d been quickest the day before at the new street circuit, which was holding F1′s first night race, and topped the times in final practice by over half a second. His last win had been at the wheel of a McLaren over 12 months ago, and this weekend seemed to be his chance to end the drought.

But in Q2 his car lost fuel pressure and came to a stop before he’d even set a time. A fuming Alonso stamped his feet as he climbed from the R28 and realised he would line up 15th on the grid. “Starting from the middle of the pack, I’m going to need a miracle,” he rued.

Ill-gotten gains

Start, Singapore, 2008Alonso was one of only two drivers to start the race on the soft tyre – the harder of the two compounds brought by Bridgestone. Nico Rosberg in the Williams did likewise.

The Renault driver made up three places at the start and gained another one soon after as Jarno Trulli, heavy with fuel, began to drop back.

But as early as lap 12 of the 61-lap race Alonso himself was in the pits. Seemingly, his hopes of running light on fuel to gain places had failed: he rejoined over 80 seconds behind Massa.

Two laps later Piquet Jnr’s Renault clattered into the barrier at the exit of turn 17. That in itself was no cause for surprise: this was his 15th grand prix start and he’d already crashed or spun out of five previous races.

As in Germany it worked out beautifully for Renault – albeit their other driver. Once the field had queued up behind the Safety Car and then pitted, Alonso was up to fifth. What’s more, two of the drivers in front of him had to serve drive-through penalties – Rosberg and Robert Kubica had been forced to stop for fuel while the pits were ‘closed’.

That left Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella, both of which had started with high fuel loads and were now running on worn tyres leaving them unlikely to challenge Alonso. After his second pit stop on lap 41 he easily held the lead until the end.

Suspicions

Fernando Alonso, Renault, Singapore, 2008Even at the time some suspected Alonso’s win was not entirely kosher: “There were those who left Singapore with an uneasy feeling at the coincidental manner in which Renault’s return to winning form had been achieved,” remembered television presenter Steve Ryder in his memoirs.

“There was the poor qualifying session, the nonsensical gamble on a light fuel load, and then the mysterious crash of Alonso’s team mate Nelson Piquet Jnr that brought the Safety Car out at the absolutely optimum time; a million-to-one-shot had seemingly come off, and on what was a particularly high-profile race for the team’s sponsors.”

Despite the suspicious circumstances of Alonso’s victory the stewards chose not to investigate. Even this pre-race spin conducted by Piquet during the warm-up lap – seemingly a dress rehearsal – failed to attract their attention:

http://youtu.be/feXvqfttAuw?t=10s

After the race journalists quizzed Piquet Jnr about the crash, noting it was “suspicious”. One of his engineers who had not been privy to details of the plan challenged Piquet on why he had not done a better job of keeping the car out of the barriers.

Hushing it up

Nelson Piquet, Nelson Piquet Jnr, Hungaroring, 2009It didn’t take long for the FIA to learn of the plot. Race director Charlie Whiting had been a chief mechanic at Brabham in the 1980s when the elder Nelson Piquet won his first world championships. Piquet approached Whiting at the Brazilian Grand Prix weekend.

“Nelson told Charlie the story, in great confidence, and Charlie told me,” said FIA president Max Mosley in an interview with Sky earlier this year.

Yet still the FIA chose not to act. “We knew what had happened but there was absolutely no proof, no evidence,” said Mosley.

Three days after the race in Brazil, Renault confirmed an extension on Piquet’s contract despite a disappointing debut season in which he had contributed little by way of results apart from his fluke podium finish in Germany and his involvement in the Singapore scam, which was still undisclosed.

Having been reconfirmed as a Renault driver, though with his pay cut from $1.5m to $1m, Piquet Jnr intended to keep the plan secret. In an interview for F1 Racing magazine he scoffed at the suggestion he’d been involved in anything underhand in Singapore: “Yeah, I wanted to kill myself to help Fernando get on the podium.”

The truth comes out

Flavio Briatore, Nelson Piquet Jnr, Shanghai, 2009Thanks in part to their Singapore win, but also due to a superb drive by Alonso two weeks later in Fuji to a fully-deserved second win, Renault seemed to have turned around their slump in form in 2008. They failed to carry that into the next season with the dismal R29.

Piquet continued to struggle and after ten point-less races, team principal Flavio Briatore finally cut him loose. With that went his reason to keep quiet about what had gone on in Singapore.

He wasn’t the only person feeling the pressure in 2009. Mosley was fighting a battle on many fronts. In April the now-defunct News of the World ran a devastating expose on his private life which brought the future of his presidency into question.

Mosley clung to power, but facing hostile opposition from the teams – temporarily united under the Formula One Teams’ Association banner – the clock was clearly running out on his presidency.

“In ’09 Nelson senior came to see me in Monaco and we had lunch together,” said Mosley. “He told me the story, not knowing that I already knew, and it was extraordinary because he was really, really upset. He was distraught over lunch.”

“I said ‘what we need is we need a statement from Nelson Jnr’. He said ‘he’s ’round the corner, I can bring him in.’ I said ‘no, I’ve got to stay out of this but I will arrange for people to interview him and so on, I don’t want to get involved’.”

Now the FIA had finally begun an investigation, matters proceeded swiftly. Yet the individuals they interviewed and the evidence they collected could all have been obtained months earlier when the suspicions first arose.

Piquet Jnr exposes the plot

Fernando Alonso, Nelson Piquet Jnr, Renault, 2009News of Piquet Jnr’s impending departure broke on August 1st. Two days earlier in Paris he signed a statement exposing a story which was predictably dubbed ‘Crashgate’ by a scandal-weary F1 media, which in the preceding two seasons had also reported on ‘Spygate’, ‘Liegate’ and ‘Spankgate’.

In his statement Piquet Jnr pointed the finger at Briatore and technical director Pat Symonds. He said that shortly before the start of the race: “Mr Symonds, in the presence of Mr Briatore, asked me if I would be willing to sacrifice my race for the team by ‘causing a Safety Car’.”

“I accepted because I hoped that it could improve my position in the team at a critical time in the race season,” he said, adding that the pair did not making the tactic a condition of him earning a drive for 2009, though he hoped it would help.

Renault were meticulous in their planning. Piquet was told to crash at the exit of turn 17 where there were no cranes and no side entrances to allow the car to be swiftly recovered, maximising the potential for a Safety Car deployment.

Naturally, Alonso’s strategy would have to be prepared accordingly: “Mr Symonds also told me which exact lap to cause the incident upon, so that a strategy could be deployed for my team mate Mr Fernando Alonso to refuel at the pit shortly before the deployment of the Safety Car, which he indeed did during lap 12.”

“The key to this strategy resided in the fact that the near-knowledge that the Safety Car would be deployed in lap 13/14 allowed the team to start Mr Alonso’s car with an aggressive fuel strategy using a light car containing enough fuel to arrive at lap 12, but not much more.”

The meticulous planning did not extend to how to minimise the risk to marshals and spectators. “Be careful” were Symonds’ only words to Piquet Jnr on the subject, “which I took to mean that I should not injure myself”.

The evidence mounts up

Nelson Piquet Jnr's 2008 Singapore Grand Prix crash telemetryThe FIA hired corporate investigative firm Quest to conduct an inquiry. Among their team was Martin Smith, a former detective superintendent who had spent 30 years with the Metropolitan Police.

They were quick to rule out any involvement on Alonso’s part after he was interviewed on August 28th at Spa-Francorchamps, where practice for the Belgian Grand Prix was taking place. “Alonso denied any knowledge of any sort of plot,” explained Mosley.

Alonso told the FIA that the unusual strategy of starting with a light fuel load from a low qualifying position at a track where overtaking was difficult was borne out of a desire to pursue a different approach to those immediately around him in the hope of gaining an advantage. Besides which, he added, “the question of strategy was one which he largely left to his engineers” (in the FIA’s words).

“Interestingly the senior policeman [who interviewed Alonso] – very experienced at questioning people – is convinced he was telling the truth,” Mosley added.

But they reached the opposite conclusion about Symonds, who was interviewed shortly after Alonso. He refused to answer repeated questions over whether he had met with Briatore and Piquet Jnr on the day of the race or knew anything of a plan to orchestrate a crash, but did assert that the plan was first put to him by Piquet Jnr “the day before” the race.

Eventually one of the interviewers put it to him that “if Mr Symonds you’d been put in the position where you were made to ask Mr Piquet Jnr to crash it’s much better, it would be much better you in the long term to tell these stewards to hear that today?”

“I fully understand that,” Symonds replied. “I have no intention of lying to you. I have not lied to you but I have reserved my position just a little.” In their report the stewards added Symonds was “very responsive throughout the rest of the interview”.

Briatore responded to the investigation by claiming the elder Piquet tried to blackmail him by threatening to expose the conspiracy if his son did not keep his place at the team.

The Renault team boss gave the FIA a copy of a letter he had sent to Piquet Snr three days after the FIA received his son’s statement.

“I can certainly not accept your contention that the Renault team, myself and your son entered into some sort of conspiracy that would not only have a impact on the result of the competition, but actually, that may put at risk the safety of all the contenders in the grand prix just to have Fernando Alonso obtaining a racing advantage,” Briatore told Piquet Snr in the letter.

Briatore threatened the Piquets with legal action if he did not desist his “blatant attempt of exerting blackmail… by way of threats and outrageous lies”.

He maintained this position before the stewards. “I never talk with Nelsinho [Piquet Jnr].”

“I never talk about crashing the car, he’s never coming to me tell me ‘Flavio Jesus Christ I crash the car, you won the race, can you renew my contract?’”

The FIA also obtained telemetry from Renault (pictured) which clearly showed Piquet had provoked the spin and subsequent crash. He had responded to his car’s loss of rear grip not by backing off but keeping his foot planted on the throttle.

“To my eternal shame and regret”

Pat Symonds, Flavio Briatore, Renault, Shanghai, 2009The World Motor Sport Council finally convened to rule on the controversy on September 21st, 2009 – almost a year to the day since the race, and six days before F1′s second Singapore Grand Prix.

Five days earlier Renault made the stunning announcement they would not contest the charges brought against them and that both Briatore and Symonds had left the team.

This was enough for the Mosley: “Because Renault had actually, as a company, known nothing about it, got rid of the two people concerned which was Flavio and Pat, we took no further action, at least against Renault.”

In their eagerness to make Briatore the focus of the blame the FIA over-reached, handing him an indefinite ban which was later overturned by an appeal court. His management of Alonso and three other drivers was also placed in jeopardy as they were told they would lose their superlicences if they did not.

Symonds did not attend the hearing but did send a letter to be read out. It included a reiteration of his claim the Piquet Jnr first suggested the plan.

The driver refuted that in a 2010 interview, claiming Briatore had put the idea forward. “The only way we can benefit in any way out here is by getting a safety car on the course at the right moment,” were Briatore’s words, according to Piquet Jnr, who also said he had been reminded of how the Safety Car had helped him in Germany.

But Symonds told the WMSC he “should have dismissed [the plan] immediately”.

“It is to my eternal regret and shame that I did not do so,” he continued. “I can only say that I did it out of a misguided devotion to my team and not for any personal gain whatsoever.”

Back to Singapore

Lewis Hamilton, Timo Glock, Fernando Alonso, Singapore, 2009Soon after the teams were back in Singapore where paddock chatter was dominate by the scandalous fall-out of the previous year’s race.

The news got worse for Renault as their title sponsor ING announced its “deep disappointment” with the verdict and cancelled its sponsorship of the team, followed swiftly by Mutua Madrilena.

Piquet Jnr later admitted he “didn’t consider the morality” of what he had done. And the prime benefactor of the conspiracy – Alonso – didn’t care. Quizzed by journalists in Singapore he dismissed the facts of his team’s manufactured victory as an “interpretation”.

“There are many interpretations how you can win the race,” he said. “[The crash] was in the very early stage of the race, it was a long race to do, the car was performing well, I did no mistakes and I still count it [as a win].”

In the 2009 race Alonso took a remarkable – and this time fully-deserved – third place, and sent a clear message about his opinion of the previous year’s events by dedicating it to the disgraced Briatore.

Lingering doubts

There is nothing about the sordid Crashgate episode that doesn’t reek of cynicism.

The conception of the plan, the FIA’s initial indifference to the warning signs about the manner in which the race had been won, Piquet Jnr’s eagerness to keep quiet about it while it kept him in a drive, the sudden vigour with which Mosley pursued the matter once it suited him and Alonso’s dismaying readiness to accept his tainted spoils exposed F1 as corrupt, conniving and morally deficient.

Five years on, there are many who find it hard to believe that the one person who stood to gain most from Crashgate had no knowledge of it. The passage of time has given us further cause to doubt Alonso’s insistence that he would not know basic details of his own strategy. We have also seen examples of Alonso’s team mate being sacrificed for his needs in a manner which does not happen with other drivers.

Mosley’s attempt to banish Briatore from motor racing indefinitely having failed, he has since reappeared in the F1 paddock. His most recent visit, at the Italian Grand Prix, was with Ferrari.

Of all the teams for him to show up at, this was perhaps the most surprising. If any team had cause to bear a grudge against Briatore for his actions in Singapore it was surely them, for during the manufactured Safety Car period Felipe Massa suffered a disastrous pit stop which cost him a likely win.

Given that, it was strange to see Briatore back in their garage. Odd too, that a team not shy about levelling accusations at rival teams minimised the Renault conspiracy and crash as “a euphemistically naughty spin from Nelson Piquet Jnr”.

But to do so might have caused too much embarrassment on the other side of the garage – which, ironically, is now occupied by the very person whose ill-gotten win potentially cost Massa the world championship.

How the race unfolded

2008 Singapore Grand Prix race chart

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/charts/2008drivercolours.csv

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61
Felipe Massa 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 59.674 8.545 15.472 18.7 21.997 24.794 32.414 44.966 45.441 47.337 45.206 35.408 36.923 47.179 69.699 65.08 64.083 67.465 69.883 72.483 75.371 78.504 83.565 83.936 64.305 66.316 69.82 74.146 77.701 80.43 84.051 86.63 96.302 103.136 19.636 8.97 13.718 18.37 20.574 23.909 26.687 27.28 29.686 35.17
Lewis Hamilton 1.288 1.286 1.796 2.092 2.681 3.105 2.882 2.866 3.094 3.39 3.485 4.069 4.548 4.397 1.645 1.8 0.425 7.818 3.481 7.116 10.716 13.11 15.78 18.718 21.463 23.886 26.865 25.045 16.927 17.904 18.581 19.759 16.484 13.304 14.847 16.544 18.488 20.395 22.351 24.489 22.036 5.433 25.83 25.804 25.851 25.914 25.802 26.144 25.496 25.873 25.558 1.849 1.799 4.983 6.888 6.856 7.364 6.509 6.297 7.117 5.917
Kimi Raikkonen 3.532 5.068 6.259 7.115 8.055 8.415 8.206 7.78 7.49 7.379 6.712 6.686 7.23 6.606 2.901 3.907 4.748 18.104 6.885 12.048 15.997 19.106 21.733 25.24 28.589 30.771 33.593 32.652 24.542 26.915 29.164 31.599 28.981 28.248 31.149 32.629 35.956 40.787 43.555 44.558 41.781 19.799 18.326 18.802 18.656 18.222 17.822 18.344 18.691 24.08 45.014 4.482 2.807 6.894 9.081 8.819 9.43
Robert Kubica 4.889 6.305 7.92 9.14 10.663 11.868 12.318 12.401 13.774 14.924 15.551 16.686 17.969 18.645 13.399 4.682 10.829 3.039 1.358 4.84 7.861 10.385 12.905 15.314 17.257 20.01 26.856 48.703 38.65 38.468 39.862 40.675 41.717 63.409 66.707 69.076 71.732 74.363 77.785 82.682 83.394 63.179 65.467 69.25 71.493 72.771 74.54 76.543 77.256 78.499 77.295 12.709 6.219 12.124 17.184 19.144 21.768 23.646 24.682 27.272 27.975
Heikki Kovalainen 7.422 10.045 12.809 15.501 17.866 20.033 21.374 22.373 24.237 25.86 27.297 29.209 31.088 32.202 32.368 8.418 6.504 14.593 5.743 10.778 14.789 17.698 20.752 24.542 27.5 29.776 32.912 31.901 23.673 26.043 28.432 30.823 28.111 31.345 56.893 60.335 63.722 66.709 69.469 72.587 71.507 50.675 52.646 55.151 58.043 59.914 62.211 65.039 66.46 68.291 70.564 11.785 5.517 11.4 15.924 17.743 20.231 21.306 21.762 25.542 26.902
Sebastian Vettel 5.736 7.514 9.709 11.498 14.174 16.524 17.642 18.923 20.379 21.983 23.004 24.285 25.799 26.858 29.409 5.903 3.094 8.651 3.777 8.148 11.939 14.748 17.819 20.346 23.067 25.87 28.935 27.783 19.169 20.734 22.419 24.365 20.719 17.71 19.575 21.761 23.619 25.805 28.541 30.704 28.56 6.684 11.024 33.749 36.357 38.254 40.591 42.844 44.035 45.708 53.057 5.57 3.148 8.034 11.438 11.985 12.811 12.113 11.308 12.235 10.268
Timo Glock 6.727 8.888 11.472 13.494 15.584 17.563 18.949 20.532 21.978 23.646 24.758 25.99 27.539 29.097 31.328 6.744 3.71 10.481 3.976 7.739 11.437 13.927 16.843 19.217 22.379 25.005 27.937 26.45 18.142 19.883 20.881 22.437 18.653 16.168 17.971 20.198 22.313 24.759 27.237 29.019 26.863 5.166 4.839 5.615 6.189 10.904 32.916 33.989 33.523 33.445 34.067 3.547 2.222 5.987 8.27 7.995 8.658 8.044 8.169 8.471 8.155
Nico Rosberg 10.127 14.891 20.531 25.856 31.123 35.433 36.727 36.973 37.516 38.029 38.497 39.399 40.441 41.163 43.018 12.234 5.421 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14.867 14.635 14.148 14.221 9.32 4.937 5.627 6.294 7.031 7.443 8.027 12.903 34.096 12.433 12.897 13.963 14.885 15.501 16.391 17.539 18.013 18.575 23.554 1.035 1.4 3.776 6.187 6.069 6.577 5.486 4.607 5.2 2.957
Nick Heidfeld 8.108 10.967 13.852 16.454 19.415 21.811 22.876 24.178 25.882 27.301 28.573 30.441 32.401 33.484 35.529 9.772 6.97 11.715 4.344 8.817 12.552 15.307 18.564 21.236 23.754 26.766 29.776 28.345 19.95 21.54 23.151 25.254 21.633 18.77 20.893 22.651 24.878 26.596 29.661 32.175 29.434 7.643 12.125 35.502 37.905 39.823 41.364 43.759 44.753 46.821 54.413 7.912 3.523 8.956 12.579 12.726 13.699 12.975 12.01 13.177 11.101
Kazuki Nakajima 10.696 15.626 21.236 26.803 31.908 36.499 40.567 43.93 45.995 47.87 49.356 50.828 52.358 54.156 54.999 11.068 8.102 12.656 4.915 9.589 13.305 16.085 19.172 22.645 24.923 27.807 30.718 29.668 21.216 22.65 24.309 26.516 23.703 24.433 28.084 31.503 35.206 38.181 40.568 42.156 40.193 23.184 48.121 50.103 51.219 51.714 52.776 53.956 53.915 54.997 56.975 9.784 4.447 10.103 14.153 15.538 17.31 18.187 18.769 20.199 18.489
Jarno Trulli 9.631 14.535 20.257 25.542 30.695 35.061 40.038 46.485 52.474 56.917 60.343 63.877 67.331 70.15 68.506 13.082 5.807 1.451 0.487 2.871 5.1 6.915 8.528 9.992 11.24 12.271 13.248 10.168 0 0 0 0 0 23.887 27.396 30.741 34.625 40.411 46.278 49.723 48.789 27.971 29.993 32.642 35.282 37.067 39.376 41.315 42.612 120.942
Jenson Button 12.482 17.729 23.548 29.266 34.45 39.442 43.357 48.506 54.095 58.538 62.498 66.485 70.093 73.288 69.998 15.459 9.758 13.356 5.349 10.35 14.239 17.054 20.125 23.734 26.641 29.08 32.152 31.163 22.951 25.547 27.8 30.256 27.315 26.316 34.237 59.293 61.805 64.66 67.735 70.814 69.858 48.994 51.065 54.129 56.637 58.725 61.092 63.713 64.819 67.023 68.205 10.577 5.026 10.922 15.264 16.846 18.857 20.006 20.439 21.688 19.885
Mark Webber 11.725 16.89 22.621 28.269 33.301 38.428 42.285 47.754 53.094 57.622 61.148 64.962 68.388 75.546 152.065 73.192 12.293 4.747 2.611 5.951 9.34 11.96 14.39 17.123 19.873 21.856 24.788 36.81 65.464
David Coulthard 12.972 18.318 24.233 29.755 35.299 40.283 43.993 49.082 54.783 59.26 63.426 67.262 71.073 78.621 153.808 74.685 13.953 5.668 2.927 6.445 10.017 12.632 15.379 17.991 20.842 23.325 26.186 24.374 16.101 17.225 17.773 19.142 15.514 12.406 14.066 15.906 17.7 19.737 21.722 23.752 21.263 7.885 34.642 37.689 40.613 43.368 46.164 48.116 49.452 51.236 55.269 8.95 3.947 9.626 13.568 14.612 15.982 15.984 16.309 17.603 16.387
Fernando Alonso 11.069 16.123 21.733 27.397 32.495 37.017 41.369 46.755 50.149 51.562 52.478 57.467 84.793 88.198 147.825 71.656 11.28 3.945 2.345 5.388 8.741 11.288 13.67 16.232 18.205 20.697 23.772 20.904 11.971 11.277 10.62 10.829 4.943 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nelson Piquet Jnr 15.052 20.923 26.793 32.478 38.639 43.925 48.363 52.684 57.657 62.791 67.237 71.791 76.483
Sebastien Bourdais 13.496 19.112 25.066 30.643 36.457 41.094 44.693 49.764 55.669 60.132 64.628 68.347 79.068 83.05 85.443 17.288 8.897 5.387 7.576 13.429 17.655 21.358 32.207 34.082 35.168 36.501 46.714 44.105 33.973 34.216 36.176 38.912 41.186 65.737 70.001 73.496 76.669 79.151 82.368 87.424 87.782 68.132 72.463 77.486 79.995 81.898 85.365 88.693 92.006 97.29 105.825 25.226 8.188 13.019 17.924 19.881 22.698 24.823 25.502 28.259 29.432
Rubens Barrichello 14.414 20.023 26.174 31.921 37.737 43.174 47.444 51.598 56.767 61.63 66.209 70.611 75.174 82.906
Adrian Sutil 16.249 21.863 27.85 33.321 39.502 44.821 49.144 53.514 58.412 63.458 68.006 73.153 77.429 81.924 81.614 16.732 11.842 15.817 6.29 12.819 17.024 20.707 23.636 27.382 30.921 34.146 37.759 37.801 30.702 33.316 35.496 38.047 35.656 34.132 37.658 40.879 44.253 47.35 55.201 85.895 86.679 67.61 70.674 74.436 77.943 80.815 84.282 87.841 91.157
Giancarlo Fisichella 16.937 23.201 29.546 35.653 41.701 47.401 51.671 56.413 60.831 66.079 71.055 75.606 80.528 85.366 92.316 20.695 10.281 2.516 1.04 4.379 7.314 9.916 12.375 14.639 16.66 19.43 22.013 19.93 15.503 45.593 49.315 53.627 52.849 53.166 59.251 63.743 68.166 72.37 77.136 82.058 82.434 62.647 64.725 68.378 73.834 77.096 79.951 83.68 86.325 89.644 100.134 18.848 7.064 15.811 21.636 25.299 29.906 34.097 36.881 41.436 43.571

2008 Singapore Grand Prix partial Renault radio transcript

Extracts from the pit wall radio transcript published by the FIA of Renault’s radio messages leading up to and after Piquet Jnr’s crash. Only Briatore, Symonds, Alonso and Piquet Jnr were named.

From Message
Engineer Nakajima was being told that Trulli was heavy so he needs to overtake him as well.
Pat Symonds While we’re behind Nakajima we’re f***ed, we’re not going anywhere.
Engineer I agree.
Pat Symonds I’m also’
Engineer It’s f***ing our three stop isn’t it completely.
Pat Symonds Yeah absolutely. I’m also concerned about that that fuel current thing, um as soon as we get laps coming in I’m gonna look for gaps.
Pat Symonds [...] I can tell you now we’re not three-stopping.
Engineer At this space for Fernando we are lap 15 so far and maybe we get to 16. We’ll see how it develops.
Engineer Okay.
Pat Symonds [Engineer], don’t worry about fuel because I’m going to get him out of this traffic earlier than that.
Engineer Massa ran over the debris on lap eight.
[...] There’s a bit of debris in the middle of the circuit there.
Engineer Maybe debris on the circuit. Yellow flag between nine and ten and we think there’s debris on the circuit.
Pat Symonds Pat Symonds That’s not gonna be a safety car.
Fernando Alonso Okay, okay.
Flavio Briatore [...] [Inaudible] Fernando will be going nowhere?
Pat Symonds Absolutely. Um we’ve got a little strategy programme problem but as soon as I’ve got it back I’m gonna be looking for a gap to put him in.
Pat Symonds [...] I think Rosberg will be quite light because he’s on options but this is still bad news for us. We’ve, we’ve gotta think out of the box now.
Flavio Briatore [...] Fernando need to overtake somebody there because that is not’
Pat Symonds Yeah.
Flavio Briatore Alonso passed Trulli on lap nine.
That Trulli’s very slow eh?
Engineer Okay, I’ll tell him.
Nelson Piquet Jnr As per his testimony, Piquet Jnr asks what lap he’s on.
What lap are we in, what lap are we in?
Engineer [...] He just asked what lap are we in.
Pat Symonds Yeah, tell him that he’s about to complete lap eight. Is that correct?
Engineer That’s correct yeah. I think he was asking what lap are we in though but, which he already knows.
Pat Symonds No just tell him, he is about, he’s just completing, he is about to complete lap 8.
Engineer Understood.
Nelson Piquet Jnr Piquet Jnr says he can’t see his pit board.
[...] I can’t see Gabria, I can’t see Gabria.
Engineer Okay, want to tell him this straight yes?
Pat Symonds Just say understood ?����ǣ say understood. He can’t see the pit board.
Engineer Okay ?����ǣ understood.
Pat Symonds Don’t worry [Engineer].
Engineer Okay, I think we’ve got him.
Engineer Understood.
Pat Symonds Gabriel ?����ǣ can you hear?
Engineer He just said ‘yes’.
Pat Symonds Okay. Just try and get that pit board a bit further out, wave it or do something like that.
Pat Symonds [...] Right, what have we got; f***ing hell we’ve got seven seconds to Nakajima.
Nelson Piquet Jnr [...] It’s better to count through the laps because I cannot see Gabria.
Pat Symonds Nakajima lapped in 1’50.3 on lap eight.
[...] And then see how quickly we can catch up on Nakajima. Nakajima’s doing 50.3.
Engineer No, he’s going to be much quicker this lap.
Engineer 1.3 up at the moment.
Engineer And these tyres are s***.
Pat Symonds We need to’I need a bit of help here cos we haven’t got any strategy system.
Engineer I just think, I can’t believe we can’t lap at Nakajima’s pace; I’m just worried these tyres are useless and we should get on the other ones.
Pat Symonds Yeah, exactly…
Engineer We 9/10ths up at the moment.
Flavio Briatore Just wait one second guys.
Engineer We’ve got a much better first sector to come on here.
Flavio Briatore Maybe, you know, maybe we need to quicken up now.
Engineer Yeah, we gone quicker now than Nakajima.
Pat Symonds [Engineer], we’re gonna go two.
Engineer Okay.
Pat Symonds Um, what was our target without this now?
Engineer Um, 40 was the sort of optimum, and then 40 up to 46 if he wanted to cover…
Pat Symonds I think we’ll stay at around the 40 mark.
Engineer Predicted what 47.6 for this lap.
Pat Symonds 47 ?����ǣ 6.
Engineer Yeah.
Pat Symonds So point 8, point 8 quicker than Nakajima’s last one yeah?
Engineer 47 – 1 predicted now. We’re two seconds up at the moment on that lap.
Engineer We’ve gone below one and a half seconds quicker than him.
Pat Symonds One and a half’so we’re going to catch him in about three laps. Yeah?
Engineer Yep.
Pat Symonds Alonso took 0.6s out of Nakajima on lap 11 and was still over three seconds behind him.
Right, I’m going to ‘ I think we’re going to stop him just before we catch him and get him out of it, the reason being we’ve still got this worry on the on the fuel pump, it’s only a couple of laps short, we’re going to be stopping him early and we’re going to go to lap 40.
Engineer Yeah I think so.
Pat Symonds 4 – 0. Lap 40.
Engineer Alonso set his fastest lap of the race so far on lap nine, then improved on it on each of the next two laps.
How’s the balance, Fernando how’s the balance?
Pat Symonds Um, acknowledge please Freddie.
Fernando Alonso Very poor grip.
Engineer Can you repeat that please?
Engineer Okay let’s stay as we are, it will be tyres yeah?
Pat Symonds That confirms it.
Flavio Briatore ‘Cause no way we’re overtaking Nakajima with these tyre.
Pat Symonds Exactly, exactly and I don’t want to waste one second behind him.
Engineer What lap you’re claiming Pat?
Pat Symonds Um lap ‘ we’re coming in in a couple of laps something like that and then I want you to get to lap 40 please ?����ǣ four zero.
Engineer Okay lap 40′ which fuel system-wise I think we can… we can go easily to lap 12 without any problem.
Pat Symonds Symonds announces Alonso’s early pit stop.
Okay, I think I’m going to stop him the end of 12, that looks like it’s all going to work out.
Fernando Alonso Maybe over steering.
Engineer I’m quite aggressive on rear pressures Pat so…
Engineer Alright don’t do anything it’s gonna be a different story on the other tyre I would imagine.
Pat Symonds Yeah exactly.
Engineer Scupper our rear isn’t it so.
Pat Symonds Yeah that wasn’t a great centre. Right, we’re gonna stop at the end of lap 12 guys; we’re going to lap 40.
Engineer 63 kilogrammes for Fernando ?����ǣ 6 – 3. Okay?
Pat Symonds [...] Yeah with a good lap we’re going to be within a second and a half of him which is right.
Engineer An engineer who apparently was not in on the plan queries whether Symonds is pitting Alonso too early based on the fact Alonso is not catching Nakajima quickly enough to be held up by him for three or four laps.
Pat do you still not think that this is a bit early? We only did six tenths that lap.
Pat Symonds No, no it’s going to be alright.
Engineer Okay, okay. Understood.
Flavio Briatore [inaudible] …behind Nakajima now.
Pat Symonds Renault also had a problem with their computer strategy system leaving Symonds to devise Alonso’s strategy on the fly.
I’m having to hand calculate because we haven’t got.
Engineer Okay. Just we were 3.1 that last lap.
Pat Symonds Yeah, I mean we might be able to get one more lap but I’m not gonna risk missing anything.
Engineer Okay Pat, understood understood.
Engineer [...] And in now Fernando in now pit confirm. 40 seconds Fernando.
Fernando Alonso Alonso pits on lap 12.
Okay in now.
Flavio Briatore Anyway we had nothing to lose.
Pat Symonds Exactly.
Engineer 62 [Engineer], 6 – 2.
Engineer 20 seconds Fernando. Multi-map 2, multi-map 2. Guys he’s gonna be target plus 8 isn’t he if we go into lap 40, 32 was the original one.
Engineer [...] He’ll know from that we changed the two stops won’t he we don’t need to explain that to him?
Engineer Yep.
Pat Symonds [...] Right, now let’s concentrate on Nelson.
Engineer [...] He just sat behind Barrichello ain’t he and he’s got massive straight line speed give him a little hurry up [Engineer] tell him he’s got a load of straight line and advantage on him.
Pat Symonds Just hang on’
Flavio Briatore Tell him to push.
Pat Symonds ‘Let me just look at the end of this lap please. Just one minute [Engineer] please I just want to see where he is.
Engineer Understood Pat.
Engineer Bourdais went off the track at turn 18.
Bourdais’ spun, so he’s made a place up there.
Engineer [inaudible] go to R2.
Engineer Okay [Engineer]
Pat Symonds Lap 14 begins.
Okay right [Engineer], you’ve gotta push him really bloody hard now if he doesn’t get past Barrichello he’s a, he’s going nowhere, he’s got to get past Barrichello this lap.
Flavio Briatore Tell him, push.
Engineer Nelson no excuses now you’ve got to get past Barrichello you’ve got four clicks straight line advantage come on you’ve got to push now you must get past him.
Pat Symonds Tell him to push really hard.
[Multiple voices] Nakajima crashes at turn 17 on lap 14.
[...] Nelson’s off. F***ing hell. Nelson’s had a crash I would say that would be a red flag its huge [all speaking at the same time].
Nelson Piquet Jnr Sorry guys. I had a little outing.
Engineer Is he alright? Is he alright
Pat Symonds Ask him if he’s alright.
Engineer Are you okay? Are you okay?
Engineer Fernando’s just gone past it.
Engineer Okay yellow flag
Nelson Piquet Jnr Yeah I hit my head in the back. I think I’m okay.
Engineer Okay understood.
Pat Symonds Right [inaudible] stop him.
Engineer Safety car, safety car, safety car, safety car, Fernando safety car mixture three.
Pat Symonds Tell him be careful, be careful, turn 17 I think it is.
Engineer Mixture three, mixture three.
Engineer Pat he went through it just after him.
Pat Symonds Okay thank you.
Engineer [...] I overtake the safety car or no?
Engineer You follow it Fernando follow it unless you get a green light, follow the safety car unless you get a green light.
Engineer F***ing hell that was a big shunt.
Flavio Briatore Briatore appears to be watching a replay of the crash
F***ing hell… my every f***ing disgrace, f***ing, he’s not a driver.
Pat Symonds [...] What position is Fernando in?
Engineer Well we were twenty, and we’re first guy to pick the safety car up.
Pat Symonds Yeah we’re not.
Engineer [...] Okay Williams are refuelling
Fernando Alonso Alonso saw Rosberg – the only other driver who started on super-softs as he did – head for the pits. Renault’s plan relied on the pits being closed at this time so Alonso’s rivals couldn’t respond to the Safety Car by pitting.
Pit lane is closed isn’t it?
Engineer Yes, yes it is.
Engineer Yes, yes pit lane is closed.
Engineer 6.8 Williams and a penalty. Rosberg.
Engineer Did those guys ever get in before the safety car came in?
Pat Symonds Yes I think so, yeah.
Engineer Okay.
Engineer Yes I think both Red Bulls didn’t they?
Fernando Alonso Is the pit lane closed?
Engineer Yes, yes.
Pat Symonds The pit lane is closed
Engineer Yes, the pit lane is closed Fernando, the pit lane is closed
Fernando Alonso Rosberg he pit now hasn’t he?
Pat Symonds Yes he’ll get a penalty.
Engineer Yes Rosberg pitted, he will get a penalty there were guys that pitted before it came out we believe, think the Red Bulls.
Engineer And probably Barrichello.
Fernando Alonso I have the green flag, I will overtake.
Engineer Okay Fernando.
Engineer Okay.
Flavio Briatore What position we are now in the all this?
Pat Symonds To be honest, I don’t know Flavio. It’s got to have been good for Fernando but I honestly don’t know where he is.

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169 comments on Crashgate’s shadow still lingers five years on

  1. Force Maikel (@force-maikel) said on 28th September 2013, 19:04

    To this day not a single shred off evidence has been provided that F.A. was involved or knew what was going to happen. This tells me all I need to know.

    One thing however has somehow botherd me, if people in the padock has some supisions after the race surely Alonso must have figured it out himself as well. He is intelligent enough for that.

    • Dave (@raceprouk) said on 28th September 2013, 19:11

      Remember, the first rule of F1 – don’t rat out your employers.

      Wait…

    • Force Maikel (@force-maikel) said on 28th September 2013, 19:19

      I might have to add that this was a great article by @keithcollantine but I cannot accept the blunt accusation towards Fernado. Like I said above no evidence has been provided he was involved. If he was, why did Briatore, Simmonds and Piquet not just drag him into this to save their own skins inspired by the saying ‘If I go down, you all go with me’

      This proves to me he wasn’t involved. Just because some sour fans have screamed it for many years know doesn’t mean it has become a fact and frankly it is has damaged Fernando.

      Concerning Flavios recent return to the paddock I can only say that when Simmonds returned so many here screamed that he deserved a second change (which he most certainly does not!). So now you don’t need to act all spiked and declare him your enemy number one. It is nothing but hypocritic to do so. Both off them should have been banned for life like Piquet. End of story!

      To finish off I would like to thank @keithcollantine for remembering us this event even though I don’t necessarily agree with everything that has been said.

      • Albert said on 29th September 2013, 5:38

        That really doesn’t make much sense.

        I’m not saying Alonso knew or was involved (that’s something we’ll never know), but it’s quite illogical, borderline irrational to be so sure he wasn’t based on such incredibly flawed lines of reasoning. Because make no mistake, they are incredibly flawed.

    • thank god,
      there are some many controversies around alonso’s personality, you don’t need to look to far to find another reason to dislike him
      btw, he’s handling these pr-disasters very well, better than anybody

  2. Diceman (@diceman) said on 28th September 2013, 19:17

    Great article, thanks Keith. It’s really hard to tell whether Alonso knew about it or not. I hope he didn’t, because I have learned to quite like him lately, but we will probably never know.

  3. Billy (@) said on 28th September 2013, 19:33

    Anti-Alonso tripe. quit gossiping Keith.

    • Hamilfan (@hamilfan) said on 28th September 2013, 20:29

      I am surprised that such a well written article is called gossip ! He has just stated the bare facts . What we make out of them is our own perspective.

      • I think it’s a well written article by Keith… It does indirectly kind of suggests that Alonso was involved and without any kind of evidence I thought that could’ve been avoided…But again it’s Keith’s opinion and he is entitled to it like the rest of us are entitled to ours…

        • If Alonso had a record of impeccable sportsmanship apart from “Crashgate” it would make it a lot easier to believe he was uninvolved. But in fact he’s spent his entire career engaging in highly unsporting/unethical behavior with respect to his teammates, the most notable example being his effort to blackmail McLaren into giving him preferential treatment. So it would be perfectly in character for him to have known what Piquet was up to. I think it’s more likely than not that he did know.

  4. Shreyas Mohanty (@) said on 28th September 2013, 21:44

    Everyone convinced Alonso was involved in this needs to step back and look at the matter again. The article loudly states Alonso was the “prime beneficiary” of the conspiracy, while he was anything but. He was fairly out of WDC contention so a win would have done him no good except increase his points tally – and who cares about statistics except Vettel fans? I wasn’t around watching F1 then, but I have done a fair bit of research on the “crashgate” and simply found no ways this would have benefitted Fernando.
    As to the article – very neat and organised, even though its premise was somewhat biased against Alonso.

  5. “We have also seen examples of Alonso’s team mates being sacrificed for his needs in a manner which does not happen with other teams.”
    There is a world of difference between asking someone to deliberately crash and the other things referred to (being ordered to let a team mate go past / manipulating grid positions etc.) and i do not agree that this suggests Alonso was probably involved. The only thing we can say for sure is that the guy is a supremely bad judge of character. How he can stand to have that smarmy, revolting Briatore anywhere near him is unimaginable.
    The whole Crashgate scandal has to be one of the most revolting things ever to have happened in Formula One and your excellent article @keithcollantine, ensures we all are reminded just how low things can get. Let’s hope it was a wake up call for the sport ( and the FIA) and nothing like this is ever allowed to happen again.

    ever to have happened in F1 and the guilty parties should have been banned for life.

  6. So all this thread to say I don’t like Alonso (my perception after reading)?
    That’s fine but it’s not what formula 1 fanatic fan like me wants (and honestly I rate this site as very high). For me personally the most notorious piece of cheating was Mclaren in 2007, cheating on Ferrari…yep I know truth hurts
    Anyway this article for me personally deserve a dislike for 3 reasons :

    1. Timing.
    2. Making implication without facts.
    3. Personal opinion.

    So sorry, but it’s a… -1

    • David-A (@david-a) said on 28th September 2013, 22:50

      @nomore
      I don’t really think the article made any real implications about what happened. It just summarised the events. If it was saying anything, it was “Alonso didn’t deserve to win Singapore 2008″. The author went on to give him much more credit for his podium the following year.

      For me personally the most notorious piece of cheating was Mclaren in 2007, cheating on Ferrari…yep I know truth hurts

      Interestingly, that involved Fernando too.

      • @david-a

        Interestingly, that involved Fernando too.

        How ?

      • @david-a

        I’m still waiting to see how Fernando Alonso was involved in Mclaren cheating on Ferrari in 2007.

        • David-A (@david-a) said on 29th September 2013, 13:28

          @Nomore You can’t seriously be denying he (and De La Rosa) knew some of Ferrari’s confidential information, as revealed in the case. That’s why at least @mnmracer and @scunnyman are facepalming.

          • @david-a

            First of all I hope that you didn’t forget that F.Alonso was a employee of Mclaren F1 team as De la Rosa, Hamilton or 700 engineers that have worked there.

            Now if you have worked/working for a company, you should know that if a company give you a tool to work on it, you have just to do it, it’s not your responsibility where did they get this or that tool … the other option that you have is to quit the job (but in regard to yours contract, you have to buy the break out.)

            Now the question is (and I want a fair answer from you) was Alonso or Mclaren who stole design papers from Ferrari ?
            I think we all know the answer to that question (..at least I hope) but i’ll wait for your answer?
            In case Mclaren the debate is closed
            In case Alonso, can you provide some documents or references because all the search that I did never pointed to Alonso but this :

            In the week beginning 17 June 2007, at the 2007 United States Grand Prix Ferrari filed a formal complaint against Stepney, leading to the commencement of a criminal investigation by the Modena district attorney in Italy

            Ferrari announces it has recently presented a case against Nigel Stepney and an engineer from the Vodafone McLaren-Mercedes team [named by Autosport.com as Coughlan] with the Modena Tribunal, concerning the theft of technical information. Furthermore, legal action has been instigated in England and a search warrant has been issued concerning the engineer. This produced a positive outcome

            Anyway i’m waiting for your sources … but also the one from @mnmracer or @scunnyman In case they can support your cause

          • mnmracer (@mnmracer) said on 29th September 2013, 18:07

            FACT is Alonso knew about it.
            FACT is Alonso only went to the FIA with this knowledge because he didn’t get what he want from Ron Dennis, not because his morals were bugging him.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 29th September 2013, 19:14

            @nomore – I never said he was the first to steal or share the info. I said he was involved in the ensuing scandal. It was proven in a court of law that he was aware of emails about the F2007′s weight distribution, and proven that he wanted to use that info to improve his MP4-22, well before this all came to light. You can rationalise what he did any way you want, but I don’t see how anyone, especially a Ferrari fan could vehemently deny his exchanging of illegal information about a Ferrari car, when it was proven.

            http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/09/14/spygate.newrevelations/

    • Exactly my thoughts.

    • What about Toyota caught with Ferrari tech details…their following car was a Ferrari clone, nothing happened to them yet the employees involved were prosecuted. Compared to this the McLaren saga was pretty small considering there car was already made.

  7. Gosjean said on 29th September 2013, 8:01

    I think it is ridiculous to say Alonso was the one person to benefit the most. That’s not journalism but sensationalism. The man was cleared. It was one win. He’ll have many more. The team meanwhile benefits tremendously from the points and accorded money. They benefited the most…. or would have. That’s just facts.

  8. Chalky (@chalky) said on 29th September 2013, 9:24

    Thank you for the article Keith. I remember this all too well.
    I worked for Steria who also sponsored Renault F1 at the time.
    We used to have pictures of their F1 cars appearing on posters and wallpapers and even had a replica F1 car appear at the office on charity fund raising days.
    At the same time ING pulled funding, I can only assume that Steria did the same and I don’t blame them. Just a bit of a downer for me, as it was no more F1 eye candy at work anymore. Just back to the usual motivational posters instead.

  9. JamieFranklinF1 (@jamiefranklinf1) said on 29th September 2013, 14:13

    Crashgate would never be able to work these days. It doesn’t matter who crashed when or where, the safety car would still benefit Vettel :P

    • Oletros (@oletros) said on 29th September 2013, 14:35

      Yes, like SC benefited Vettel last Singapur race /s

      • mnmracer (@mnmracer) said on 29th September 2013, 18:11

        JamieFranklin is sarcastic, but sadly there are people a delusional as that. You have people suggesting Vettel’s performance in Abu Dhabi 2012 was only due to the safety car, disregarding that the first safety car put him right at the back of the field again. Of course, those are usuall the same people who think Button won in Canada 2011 despite 6 safety cars.

        Sometimes, I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

  10. The bottom line is Alonso was found to have no knowledge of the plan by the official investigation.. To me it seems like one’s opinion on Alonso’s involvement in Crashgate finally comes down to one question whether he/she likes Alonso?

    For people who like him (myself included) will think that he did not know about this and people who don’t like him will think that he was part of the entire plan or at least knew about it beforehand… I dont think another 1000 articles on this subject are going to change people’s opinion on this..

    • mnmracer (@mnmracer) said on 29th September 2013, 18:15

      The problem is Alonso specifically claiming not to have been involved in the strategy, while everyone knows he always is. It doesn’t add up. If he had just said “yes we took a gamble with a strategy” or whatever, sure, that makes sense. But he makes himself a suspect by claiming not to have any involvement in something (the strategy itself) which he always has involvement with, and that does not add up.

  11. Bloopie said on 29th September 2013, 20:28

    I have to say you take serious liberties with your article. You include key details then completely undermine yourself by moving into ridiculous rhetoric about Alonso. Main benefactor….for a possible race win at best in a barren season? You think he would risk someones life for that? Please. He isn’t the main benefactor of a win, the team is. He’s already the best at that time. Absurd. There is a lot of suppositions here…he has been known to command 1st driver status, therefore he’s more likely to manufacture an accident and cheat in his dream sport? This article has some good information but a lot of ridiculous poorly thought out arguments. I’m sorry, the man was investigated, found innocent, and I think the only thing “lingering” is a slightly desperate attempt at a story, rather than an article, in a dull season. Tough cookies Kieth.

  12. prelvu (@prelvu) said on 30th September 2013, 3:22

    He will always be a CHEEAT and play people around with his political games.

  13. yoneya mineoki said on 30th September 2013, 6:40

    Keith is anti-Alonso and He pushed this article to be like “Alonso knew that strategy”. But There is no proof, just a speculation. I read a lot of article that says Alonso is not involved in this matter., I believe those.

  14. AldoG said on 1st October 2013, 2:45

    This is a brilliant article. It really is. And those F1Fanatics who complain that Keith is “anti-Alonso” make me laugh, really.
    I understand that it is necessary to prove Alonso’s involvement in the shameful episode before accusing him, but I understand also that Keith in this article put the issue in the right place: *perception* counts, and it is very difficult to avoid the *perception* that it would have been impossible for Alonso to realize that something was rotten.
    IMHO, it requires a very particular form of naiveté to believe that the main heads at the team organized such a scam, and the main driver and MAIN BENEFICIARY of the scan was completely oblivious. And on top of that this driver goes to the press to say that all that is an “interpretation”.
    It is very sad, in my opinion, that such a brilliant driver will pass to posterity as a cheater. His skills as a driver are since then shadowed and tainted by this episode.

    • Luca Nuvolari (@nuvolari71) said on 1st October 2013, 19:23

      this article is the ultimate proof that this website cannot stand Alonso, come on. you need further evidence? Guessing is free but to write it this way is pushing beyond lines, far. How much more do you all know than a team of investigators? Do you know better than FIA and their men?

  15. Luca Nuvolari (@nuvolari71) said on 1st October 2013, 19:17

    Keith, as usual you write excellent and well documented articles but, dear you how much pepper you add to your articles when you talk about the drivers you dont like or about drivers that dont represent your british flag!!! What is Alonso was a Maclaren driver….?
    Again your source of data is very impressive but you like to provoke, dont you?
    Ever thought of writing about the real biggest F1 scandal in history, the stealing of hundreds of pages of data of MACLAREN from Ferrari? I’d be curious to read how accurate you can be in providing horrible details and in igniting fire against your british teams. You’ll ban this article and possibly you’ll ban me too… but it’s ok, even here democracy and fair play is one side only….
    What is the reason for all this?

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