Pirelli vexed by opposition to 2014 tyre tests

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Pirelli wet tyre test, Abu Dhabi, 2011In the round-up: Pirelli are frustrated by repeated obstacles to their attempts to test tyres for 2014 after a planned test with McLaren was blocked.


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Pirelli want action on tyre testing (Reuters)

Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery: “We’re running around in a 2010 car, developing tyres for the 2014 car, which nobody really knows what it’s going to look like. Yet every time we even ask to test with a 2011 car we come up against opposition.”

Stefano Domenicali Q&A (Sky)

“If [Pirelli] are not able to test – that is not correct. You can say ‘we are the only team with the facilities to test’ but you can spend all your life in the simulator and you will not solve the issue of the tyres. So therefore we have said that they need to test and above all looking ahead to the future with the totally new car we need to help Pirelli and make sure we have some more tests for them, because otherwise I can understand the situation and it is frustrating because they have difficulties to overcome and no possibility to test.”

Formula One prize money accelerates to a record $751.8 million, but some teams still in trouble (AutoWeek)

“Company filings which are due to be released next week show that the payment to the teams rose 8 percent to $751.8 million [??467.5m] last year. That is 202-percent higher than in 2007 when the prize money only comprised a percentage of the fees from broadcasters rather than a cut of F1’s profits.”

Alonso praises ‘superb’ Hulkenberg (Autosport)

“He is driving very, very well and he deserved to be in front of us because he did a fantastic race.”

Lauda wants Brawn to stay at Mercedes (BBC)

“I am in negotiations with Ross Brawn. There’s no decision on how things will be in the long term.”

A document from Jean Todt (Joe Saward)

“A letter is being circulated amongst the clubs that tries to throw mud at [David] Ward?s campaign. This comes from Carlos Barbosa, the President of the Automovel Club de Portugal, who is complaining about ‘the aggressive tone being adopted against the current President, including the stirring up of false rumour and innuendo in the press, and the calling into question of the institution itself’ which, he feels, is ‘against the interest of the clubs’.”

Does Korea work as an F1 venue? (MotorSport)

“At the Yeongam track there was a sign from the local Governor which read: ‘Thank you Mr Ecclestone for the 2013 Grand Prix’, which brought a wry smile to many people?s faces. While they paid a reduced rate this season, figures of $20 million [??12.4m] were being bandied about.”


Comment of the day

@Jelle-Van-Der-Meer spotted a landmark statistic from Sunday’s race:

Vettel has now a higher win per race start percentage then Michael Schumacher:

  • Schumacher 91 out of 308 starts = 29.55%
  • Vettel 34 out of 115 starts = 29.56%


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On this day in F1

Gilles Villeneuve scored his first F1 win 35 years ago today in F1’s first race at the track which was later named after him.

Villeneuve took the win after Jean-Pierre Jarier, who had taken over the Lotus which had been driven by Ronnie Peterson until his death at Monza, dropped out with a damaged radiator. Jody Scheckter, who was poised to join Ferrari as Villeneuve’s team mate, took second ahead of the driver he was replacing, Carlos Reutemann.

Here’s highlights from the race:


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103 comments on Pirelli vexed by opposition to 2014 tyre tests

  1. JCost (@jcost) said on 8th October 2013, 7:31

    Seb stats are incredible. If he keeps getting top cars he may well get 4 more WDC. However, I think he will struggle in 2014 because FIA has designed the rules against his “driving style” or Newey/Vettel philosophy if you prefer.

    • Tomsk (@tomsk) said on 8th October 2013, 8:57

      Yes, it sounds a bit like 2005, when you could say the new tyre rules were designed to stop Schumacher. Red Bull may have to develop their way to the front throughout the season, as they did against Brawn in 2009.

  2. Michael Brown (@) said on 8th October 2013, 12:00

    Pirelli needs this test so they don’t ruin the tires like they did this year.

  3. I think Korea doesn’t work as a venue and will never become a staple of the calendar like Suzuka because it simply doesn’t have the audience. The racetrack should’ve been much nearer Seoul, which of course is a growing technical power to rival the likes of Tokyo – a great compliment for F1. Rather unlike a shipyard.

    Compare that to Austin: I think it’s a fantastic venue, in close proximity to a pretty major city and has the added benefit of being near Mexico and pretty much slap-bang in the middle of the US, so it’s not too arduous for people from each coast to hop over. It’s a great racetrack, too, whereas Korea just seems a bit like Tilke has tried to use a formula to calculate the ideal design – the perfect racetrack – and failed. Why has he failed? Because racetracks should follow the natural topography, flow through the natural crests and bends in the landscape. That’s what makes Spa a great racetrack, or the Nordschliefe arguably the greatest of them all.

    • Don’t fight the land, essentially. It’s your ally!

    • Linda1 said on 8th October 2013, 18:27

      It’s a great racetrack, too, whereas Korea just seems a bit like Tilke has tried to use a formula to calculate the ideal design – the perfect racetrack – and failed.

      How has he failed with Korea?

      Its a track all the drivers like & its produced good races every year. The 2nd sector is very fast & flowing & the final sector is very technical.

      Its similar to Austin in that regard, The 1st sector at Austin is fast/flowing, The 2nd has the long straghts & the 3rd is a slower, more technical section.
      Also pretty sure that Austin doesn’t exactly follow the land as I believe it was a totally flat bit of land when Tilke was given it, All the crest’s, All the undulation was all man made.
      When the initial shots of the land it was to be built came out I recall everyone whining about how it was going to be flat & featureless.

      • Austin isn’t the perfect track, I grant you that much. But I’d sure as hell say it were better than Korea: Korea isn’t a bad track, but it’s got a pretty unimaginative layout to say the least. The land he was given for sure was no help, but honestly I think he’d have done better just drawing some squiggles with a crayon in the initial design phase.

    • Michael Brown (@) said on 8th October 2013, 18:28

      The COTD a few days ago revealed that the media doesn’t inform the public of the GP nor do the locals who live near the track know.

      Compare that to COTA’s first year. The demands were so high that additional grandstands had to be build, the location works for American and Mexican fans, and a festival was held in Austin in celebrating for the Grand Prix.

      I like the Korean track but it’s going to be gone soon with its attendance figures. Same happened to Istanbul Park.

  4. Dizzy said on 8th October 2013, 18:13

    Pirelli often complain about not been able to test new tyres, However lets not forget that they are allowed to test new tyres on Friday’s at F1 weekends & they have hardly ever decided to take advantage of that.

    The Mercedes test at Barcelona this year clearly benefited them as there tyre wear has been improved since then as has there overall performance so clearly picking 1 team to run a tyre test every so often is not the best or fairest solution.
    However Pirelli themselfs have said in the past that they don’t want group tyre test’s because they could not afford to bring enough sets of the test tyres to supply all the teams.

    The other issue of course is that most of the teams on the grid can’t afford testing, Most are unhappy about the limited testing that we will see in 2014.
    If you opened up testing you would likely only have 4 teams that could actually afford to test so do you then allow those 4 teams to do all the tyre testing, Gaining an advantage over the teams with smaller budgets (Which includes Lotus lets not forget) which could also make it harder for them to compete.

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