Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Suzuka, 2013

Vettel’s five in a row as Alonso breaks points record

2013 Japanese Grand Prix stats and factsPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Fernando Alonso at least found one thing to be cheerful about after seeing the world championship slip further away in the Japanese Grand Prix:

Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali hailed Alonso’s appearance at the top of F1’s all-time points scorers chart as “proof of his extraordinary talent and something which makes us very proud”.

Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Suzuka, 2013Alonso’s formidable talent has already earned him two world championships and more race wins than all bar four drivers in the sport’s history. But, as explained here before, the greatest points haul achievement is meaningless.

This is for the obvious reasons that finishing places today are valued much more highly than they used to be and there are far more races in the season. Today’s calendar is pushing 20 races per season and 101 points are distributed at each round. F1’s inaugural season in 1950 had just seven races with a total of 24 points available at each.

So what does the fact that Alonso has reached 1,571 points, surpassing Michael Schumacher’s 1,566 at the top of the table, actually tell us? Little more than that they are both extremely good F1 drivers, something we already knew.

However we can make an attempt to address the shortcomings of the statistics. This table compares the results of all the world champions, plus the top 25 points scorers who never won a title, by adjusting all their points to the current system and by averaging that total against the number of races they competed in:

Name Starts Points Modern points* Modern points per start*
Fernando Alonso 211 1571 2414 11.44
Michael Schumacher 306 1566 3890 12.71
Sebastian Vettel 116 1351 1541 13.28
Lewis Hamilton 125 1074 1452 11.62
Jenson Button 243 1059 1683 6.93
Mark Webber 211 996.5 1311 6.21
Kimi Raikkonen 190 963 1882 9.91
Alain Prost 199 798.5 2483 12.48
Felipe Massa 187 794 1328 7.1
Rubens Barrichello 323 658 1897 5.87
Ayrton Senna 161 614 1881 11.68
David Coulthard 246 535 1726 7.02
Nico Rosberg 143 525.5 670 4.69
Nelson Piquet 204 485.5 1688 8.27
Nigel Mansell 187 482 1509 8.07
Niki Lauda 171 420.5 1343 7.85
Mika Hakkinen 161 420 1382 8.58
Gerhard Berger 210 385 1417 6.75
Jackie Stewart 99 360 1109 11.2
Damon Hill 115 360 1091 9.49
Ralf Schumacher 180 329 1096 6.09
Carlos Reutemann 146 310 1131 7.75
Juan Pablo Montoya 94 307 825 8.78
Graham Hill 175 289 1053 6.02
Emerson Fittipaldi 144 281 994 6.9
Riccardo Patrese 256 281 1111 4.34
Juan Manuel Fangio 51 277.64 873 17.12
Giancarlo Fisichella 229 275 940 4.1
Jim Clark 72 274 839 11.65
Robert Kubica 76 273 488 6.42
Jack Brabham 123 261 939 7.63
Nick Heidfeld 183 259 727 3.97
Jody Scheckter 112 255 896 8
Denny Hulme 112 248 940 8.39
Jarno Trulli 252 246.5 810 3.21
Jean Alesi 201 241 1033 5.14
Jacques Villeneuve 163 235 853 5.23
Jacques Laffite 176 228 921 5.23
Clay Regazzoni 132 212 820 6.21
Alan Jones 116 206 707 6.09
Ronnie Peterson 123 203 731 5.94
Bruce McLaren 98 196.5 745 7.6
Eddie Irvine 146 191 789 5.4
Stirling Moss 66 186.64 616 9.33
Michele Alboreto 194 186.5 767 3.95
Jacky Ickx 114 181 680 5.96
Rene Arnoux 149 181 699 4.69
John Surtees 111 180 656 5.91
Mario Andretti 128 180 671 5.24
James Hunt 92 179 629 6.84
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 156 174 780 5
John Watson 152 169 734 4.83
Keke Rosberg 114 159.5 595 5.22
Patrick Depailler 95 141 551 5.8
Alberto Ascari 32 140.14 446 13.94
Mike Hawthorn 45 127.64 468 10.4
Giuseppe Farina 33 127.33 447 13.55
Jochen Rindt 60 109 358 5.97
Phil Hill 47 98 365 7.77

*Split points scores due to shared drives or reduced race distances have been counted as full points scores.

Vettel wins five races in a row

Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Suzuka, 2013Sebastian Vettel’s inexorable accumulation of race victories continued in Japan, but this one was special. It was his fifth consecutive grand prix win, something only five other drivers in F1 history have achieved.

He joins Alberto Ascari, Michael Schumacher, Jack Brabham, Jim Clark and Nigel Mansell in scoring five in a row. The last of those drivers to do so was Schumacher, who on separate occasions in 2004 won seven and five races consecutively.

Ascari holds the records for wins in consecutive world championship starts (nine) and races (seven). The Ferrari driver won seven races in a row in 1952 and 1953, did not compete in the 1953 Indianapolis 500 (which counted towards the world championship) then won a further two races in a row.

Suzuka remains Vettel’s stomping ground – he now has four wins in five starts at the track. He failed to continue his 100% pole position record at the track though that was most likely because his KERS had failed.

However he started from the front row for the seventh race running, something Lewis Hamilton also achieved this year.

If Vettel is victorious once more in India he will be the third driver in F1 history to win six races in a row – not to mention being the third driver to win four world championships in a row, joining Schumacher and Juan Manuel Fangio.

Ferrari poised to match McLaren record

Felipe Massa, Fernando Alonso, Sebastian Vettel, Hockenheim, 2010Esteban Gutierrez scored the first points of his F1 career with seventh place. He is the first rookie driver this year to claim his first points.

That means Brian Henton is once again the only F1 driver to have set fastest lap in an F1 race but never scored a point. Henton did so for Tyrrell in the 1982 British Grand Prix.

Ferrari claimed points for the 63rd race running which means in India they can tie McLaren’s record for most consecutive points finishes by a team, which they set earlier this year. Ferrari have scored in every race since the 2010 German Grand Prix.

However Ferrari lost the record for most pole positions by an engine builder to Renault. Mark Webber’s pole position was their 209th, moving them one ahead of Ferrari. More details on that in last week’s Stats and Facts.

Webber scored the 12th pole position of his career 364 days after his last once in Korea. It gives him as many as Gerhard Berger and David Coulthard. Coincidentally Webber’s 18th fastest lap also put him level with Coulthard, his previous team mate at Red Bull.

Webber out-qualified Vettel for the first time this year and Max Chilton also lapped quicker than Jules Bianchi in qualifying, meaning no driver has a perfect score against their team mate in qualifying this year.

Red Bull have now had at least one car on the podium for the last ten races in a row.

This was the sixth race Romain Grosjean has led. He headed the field for 26 laps at Suzuka having previously led a total of 12 laps in his career.

Review the year so far in statistics here:

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125 comments on “Vettel’s five in a row as Alonso breaks points record”

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  1. How many years will Alonso keep driving? That’s the question, as well as having the same great driving skills, because I really want to see him going well, not having 3 final years where he can hardly gets points, like Schumacher. I would prefer to see him just as much as Hakkinen, he retired when he still had good skills on him.

    1. Such a polite way to say you want Fernando Alonso out ASAP

  2. With Lewis Hamilton’s retirement, Max Chilton is the only driver to finish every single race this season. Both the Mclarens have been classified in every race but Chilton is the only driver to finish every race.

    1. Who has done the most laps this season? Also Chilton? @f199player

      1. @mike-dee Need to check but I think its Button has he pulled out very late in Malaysia and Chilton has been lapped in most of the races this season

  3. Great job for the table about points. Thank you very much!
    But there is one very important table to be made in the future!
    This kind of table about wins!
    Yeah, we know Schumacher has 91, but it is not a serious comparison when one driver gets 16-20 GPs per season, but the other just 7 GPs per season like in 1950.
    Comparison concerning wins similar to this one about points is the thing to be done the sooner the better!

  4. 4th win, 5th podium for Vettel at Suzuka – the most successful track for him in both respects.

    Vettel has already scored more points in 2013 than he managed in 2012.

    First time Grosjean has finished 3rd without Raikkonen finishing 2nd.

    First non-mechanical retirements for a Marussia and a Mercedes in 2013. McLaren are now the only team without such a retirement.

    Massa has now finished in every position from 3rd to 10th at least once this year.

    Vettel would already have clinched the title under the pre-2003 scoring system (he would be 47 ahead with 40 remaining).

    100th consecutive race with at least one German driver in the points (last race without was France 2008).

    Both 1-2 finishes for Red Bull this year have come in a race where Vettel collided with another driver on the first lap (the other driver retiring partly as a result) and one driver in the field ignored team orders.

    And some from magnetimarelli.com:

    No front-row start for Hamilton in Suzuka (although he did have 2 poles in Fuji) – Buddh is the only other such current circuit.

    First time this year that Hulkenberg has managed back-to-back top 10 starts (interesting that Gutierrez beat him to it).

    Bottas’s best dry qualifying.

    Sutil’s worst start since Brazil 2010.

    The last time that Red Bull both locked out the front and scored a 1-2 was Korea 2012 (exactly a year ago to the week) – on both occasions Webber was on pole and Vettel won.

    Vettel & Webber have managed 14 1-2’s, equalling Prost & Senna at McLaren, but way behind M Schumacher & Barrichello at Ferrari (24).

    First time this year that Vettel lost a place at the start.

    First time Grosjean has led ‘on merit’ – all other lead laps were during pitstops.

    Suzuka has never been won from the second row.

    Alonso’s 70th consecutive race without a mechanical DNF.

    First time Hulkenberg has managed 4 consecutive points finishes.

    Button’s worst result at Suzuka.

    Perez is the first driver since Mark Blundell not to manage a podium finish in his first 15 starts for McLaren.

    1. Alonso’s 70th consecutive race without a mechanical DNF.

      His Ferrari really is bulletproof – the last mechanical DNF was in his third race with Ferrari!

      1. Jelle van der Meer
        16th October 2013, 11:04

        And Alonso keeps talking about needing more luck or is opponents less luck.

  5. “Alonso’s 70th consecutive race without a mechanical DNF.”
    I wonder if there is another driver with such a record like this!

    1. I think Vettel has a similar, but different record: He has done 66 consecutive races without retiring due to an accident (Last was with Webber in Turkey 2010).

  6. @keith, I miss Luigi Fagioli in the points/race table (not so much Wallard, who really wasn’t a F1 driver)

    Split points scores due to shared drives or reduced race distances have been counted as full points scores.

    Let’s apply that to Luigi Fagioli, he entered seven races, DNF’d once, and made 6 podiums: third once, second four times, plus 1 victory, shared with Fangio.

    By your reckoning Fagioli got 112 points in modern money, exactly 16 points / race

    Back then they gave half the points for shared drives, hence that would have been 99’5 points by my reckoning, or 14.21 points race.

    By both reckonings, he was better than Ascari, and second only to the great Fangio… Unless we consider Lee Wallard, who entered the 500 Miles twice when they counted for the F1 championship, won one and finished sixth in the other. That is 33 modern points, or 16.5 per race, better than Fagioli but still worse than Fangio.

    Anyway we look at it Fangio got the most modern points/race, but Wallard topped him in victories/race (1/2) and Fagioli in podiums/race (6/7).

    1. Jelle van der Meer
      15th October 2013, 8:32

      Keith has already given the answer in his article: “This table compares the results of all the world champions, plus the top 25 points scorers who never won a title”

      In my opinion any driver with less than 10 races should be excluded from stats as not a fair representation.

  7. Fair enough, I agree to leave out the one-hit-wonders like Dorino Serafini (100% podiums, but only one race) and the 500-miles-only drivers. But I have a soft spot for Fagioli, he drove just 7 races in F1 only because he was already over 50 when it all started. His pre-F1 records are also top-notch. Too bad almost nobody remembers him, he was no Fangio but his consistence was second to none.

    1. sorry, was @JellevanderMeer

  8. these points records are absolutely useless information due to the fact of the large point changes and number of races over the course of F1. They tell us nothing.

    ex: Alonso’s 2 world championships compared to Schumachers 7 and Alonso has more points… really pointless

  9. breaking the “all time” points record is not something I’d be bragging about…

  10. Another Stat i noticed
    Its been 62 Races a 1-2 Finish was achieved by any team other than Redbull. Germany 2010 was the Last race and it was achieved by Ferrari back in 2010.

  11. Out of curiosity, anyone know who holds the record for most laps led without having won a race? After Grosjean’s stat, I started wondering.

    1. @joey-poey Chris Amon, 183 laps.

  12. Vettel would be trounced by Gilles.

    On what evidence are you basing this arbitrary statement? Simply that GV was one of the drivers from the past? This feeling that some past s-&so would have trounced his/her present opposite number is common in any sport but is totally baseless. In fact, more often than not the converse is true because of improved levels of fitness etc. With F1, successful drivers in GV’s era often had cars that were ridiculously more powerful than the competition and with the rules more relaxed, they could try out alomst any innovation to win a race. Tyrell once even brought in 6-wheeled cars and got P1 & P2 because the conditions suited that set-up. Most top drivers demanded and usually got what they wanted, something that modern drivers are seldom capable of doing.

  13. Michael Brown (@)
    24th October 2013, 3:42

    The last time both Saubers finished in the points was the 2012 Italian Grand Prix (2nd and 9th)

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