Alonso: Vergne should get penalty for pit exit incident

2013 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Yas Marina, 2013Fernando Alonso believes Jean-Eric Vergne should be penalised following the incident between the pair during the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

Alonso came out of the pits near the Toro Rosso driver following his final pit stop, then went over the run-off at the exit of turn three to move ahead of Vergne.

Speaking to reporters after the race Alonso said: “Obviously it’s always a little bit of a question mark what [the stewards] will decide.”

“You need to leave a space always when you have a car alongside you. He didn’t give a space and I was forced to be out of the track so my opinion he should be penalised, in his opinion I overtake outside the track so we’ll see.”

Alonso believes he was unlikely to finish higher than he did given his qualifying position.

“Obviously we lost a lot of time in traffic but looking at the pole position, 20 seconds in front of us I think fifth was the maximum anyway, with or without traffic. So perfectly happy.

“One Mercedes in front, one behind. One Lotus in front, one behind. So minimised the championship, in the constructors’, loss.”

Update: No penalty for Alonso over Vergne incident

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87 comments on Alonso: Vergne should get penalty for pit exit incident

  1. Punchy (@punchy) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:09

    Clearly, without a doubt a racing incident. If they want to ‘blame’ someone, you can blame the Track designer. Call it a track design fault. It takes about 2 seconds to work that one out !

    • Feuerdrache (@xenomorph91) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:16

      @punchy: I think the FIA is giving the limits for track design. I doubt he’s allowed to plant a few grass areas of about 2m width right beside the track – followed by other endless tarmac places. That would stop the cutting.

  2. Oletros (@oletros) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:09

    FIA has decided that no penalty for ALO

  3. scratt (@scratt) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:10

    No further action will be taken by the stewards.
    I actually agree in this case, but overall this weekend the stewards have shown themselves to be horribly inconsistent.

    The one thing they said they would enforce they did not *at all*.
    Two other penalties spring to mind.
    One for Lotus which bucked previous precedents.
    And the other, an un-safe release, which, again, I agree was exactly that, but is a shame as the punishment affects the driver as well as the team. The FIA really need to change unsafe releases to constructor points and cash fines for the team.

  4. Ed Marques (@edmarques) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:13

    Ferrari International Assistance.
    So Hulkenberg and Ricciardo got penaltys for doing a lot less than that.
    Alonso came out of the pits, looked to the right side, saw Vergne, and decided to continue flat out. He should have lifted, Vergne had no obligation to let Alonso go by.
    This is a joke, to be polite.

    • iAltair (@ialtair) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:43

      Fernando International Assistance.

      Apparently, Felipe Massa is vulnerable to stewards’ penalty.

    • Palle (@palle) said on 3rd November 2013, 17:49

      +1, If the stewards decide that Vergne has done nothing wrong, then Alonso has made an illegal pass outside the track. Otherwise he should have lifted, just like when a driver from behind in other situations find it impossible to pass because the needed space narrows down to nothing.
      We need the off track areas, outside the kerbs, to be much more undrivable, slowing cars down considerably etc. This would also have penalized Sutil, who tried to overtake Maldonado, they battled so hard, they both had to use the run-off area, and Sutil cut the corner completely, came out in front of Maldonado, despite having pulled an overtaking attempt, which didn’t succeed – on track at least. If it had been on a cart track with grass run-off areas, we all know where both Alonso and Sutil would have ended up – behind, which would have been most fair, given circumstances.

  5. Joshua Mesh (@joshua-mesh) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:38

    I have no yet watched the video (cant find one on youtube yet), but I do race in the junior categories (Formula Renault and Formula 2000). I’m not sure why in F1 they accept that you can go wide and push someone off, because in the lower categories you are tough that under no situation can you do that. Not even at corner exit. If someone is along side you at corner exit, you need to take a much narrower exit to ensure there is no contact.

  6. The surfeit of off-track tarmac run off has warped our view of this whole situation. The bottom line is that if there was stretch of bumpy grass there or a wall, Alonso would not have come down the pit exit with his foot to the floor without a care in the world, even though he could see another car on track heading for the same spot. Alonso just adjusted the design of the track to fit his momentary needs when he saw a car in the place he wanted to go–that was his easy plan B if Hulkenberg did not leap out of his way. Not cricket. It wold be one thing if he took evasive action to avoid a clash between cars with equal claim to the spot and then just resumed. But, no. First, as a car reintering the track, he did not have the same claim to a spot of a car running on the course, second, he is the only one who left the track. Further he made a pass. If someone forces you off the road, even if that was an illegal move, your remedy is not to pass off the track. There is no racing off the track, period.

  7. Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:50

    For me the footage worth more than thousands of words, can anyone of you guys can post a link showing what happened otherwise some silly debates will continue until the next GP, with all my respects

  8. Fixy (@fixy) said on 3rd November 2013, 16:52

    “You need to leave a space always”

    That sounds familiar. But this time, Fernando, you came from behind, from the pit lane, and you have to give precedence to those on track. You were quicker and caught up with Vergne, but it’s your job to avoid contact. Just like two races ago in MotoGP, when Marquez came out of the pit lane and dived onto the racing line, where Lorenzo was approaching, and the two collided. Of course you don’t have to stop and let everyone through, but as you’re joining the action you have to make sure you do so in the correct manner. And, still, you were behind and overtook him by cutting the track. If he deserves a penalty, back off and overtake him later, rather than doing yourself something against the rules.

  9. Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 3rd November 2013, 17:13

    A blue flag is shown at the pit exit for a reason, Fernando!

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