Ecclestone wants double points for three races

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Bernie Ecclestone, Singapore, 2010In the round-up: Bernie Ecclestone says he wants to award double points for the last three races of 2014 or not at all.


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Double-point rule ‘could be scrapped next month’ (The Telegraph)

Bernie Ecclestone: “It may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next [Strategy Group] meeting in January. I think it should be the final three races or nothing.”

Double points too artificial – Ferrari (Autosport)

“Autosport has learned that teams were pressured into supporting the move because they were told by Bernie Ecclestone that television companies and race promoters had asked for a way to ensure the world title battle was kept alive for longer.”

Kobayashi set for F1 return with Caterham (Adam Cooper’s F1 Blog)

Kamui Kobayashi is set to return to F1 with Caterham after emerging as the most qualified candidate for the seat.”

Di Montezemolo looks ahead (Sky)

“I’m in favour, and I’m sure a lot of people, the public, the large public, want Formula One more extreme in which you have you push you have to do your best engine, gearbox, car, maybe one pit stop, not too many because if not it becomes like a circus. But we will see and we have to accept these new ideas and we will judge everything after a while.”

Jenson: The McLaren drive (McLaren)

Lewis [Hamilton] is the fastest team-mate I?ve been up against. Rubens Barrichello could sometimes pull it out of the bag in qualifying and be quick over one lap, but Lewis does that pretty much every qualifying session and he?s also very competitive during the race. A lot of drivers would say that Lewis is the worst possible team-mate to have because he is so fast, but I find that exciting, it pushes me forwards.”

Internet hits to choose name of new F1 car (Ferrari)

“The name of the Scuderia?s car for 2014? It will be chosen this coming January by millions of Ferrari fans from around the globe through the Internet.”

The farce of the 1999 title decider (MotorSport)

“What a performance, though, what a lot of time and effort ?ǣ to say nothing of legal fees ?ǣ had gone into somehow keeping the world championship alive to the end.”


Comment of the day

@JerseyF1 on Luca di Montezemolo’s plan to bring F1 teams together for a summit on the future of F1:

Great idea, get all the teams together to talk. You could give this group a name, maybe “Formula One Teams? Association” or “FOTA” for short. Oh, wait a minute…

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On this day in F1

Lorenzo Bandini was born on this day in 1935. Having arrived in F1 with Scuderia Centro Sud in 1961, and returned on the team when he was dropped by Ferrari at the end of 1962, Bandini became a fixture at Ferrari from 1964. He picked up the single win of his career that year while team mate John Surtees clinched the title.

Two years later Surtees left Ferrari and Bandini became the senior driver at the team. But at the Monaco Grand Prix in 1967, while pursuing leader Denny Hulme, Bandini crashed and was trapped in his burning Ferrari. An age seemed to pass before he was extracted, and after three days he succumbed to the terrible burns he had suffered.

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104 comments on Ecclestone wants double points for three races

  1. Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 21st December 2013, 0:08

    It’s really cool that Ferrari are going to let the drivers chose the name of the new car. Now that’s something new.

    Call me a fanboy, but IMO Ferrari have became a more likable team ever since Domenicali took over from Todt.

  2. hunocsi (@hunocsi) said on 21st December 2013, 0:18

    So no confirmation on Gutierrez yesterday… I saw he tweeted a picture of him attending his sister’s graduation, maybe it’s delayed because of that?

  3. hunocsi (@hunocsi) said on 21st December 2013, 0:22

    I hope that rumour about Kobayashi is true, it would be great seeing him back in F1, even with a small team – after all, he’d be probably the best experienced guy to join a small team after Glock (and maybe Kovalainen) in my opinion.

  4. spoutnik (@spoutnik) said on 21st December 2013, 0:23

    This double points crap seems to have reached the next level – boss fight.

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 21st December 2013, 17:00

      I think they will kill it in January.

      • Indeed, as it has come out that the TV companies “wanted a way to guarantee a longer title battle, possibly to the last race every time”. Well, for that, simply don’t play the tyres into RB’s hands (who did well to complain about it all year until the change).

    • Norbert (@northernplus) said on 22nd December 2013, 0:54

      I don’t comment much about most things, but in my opinion this is one of the poorest ideas I ever heard of. So here you are neck and neck all season and finally you are ahead going into the last race by 11 points. You are involved in an accident through no fault of your own which takes you out of the last race. No points for you, and another driver(s) pass you in total points. Who was the better driver that year?? The driver championship would automatically be decided on racing luck not skill and machinery. F1 would be more about the money than ever before. Remember when Mike Hawthorn used to wear a tie while driving? It is just all about money today……

    • Double-point rule ‘could be scrapped next month’ (The Telegraph)

      @spoutnik – what was the actual direct link to the Telegraph article?

      The one @keithcollantine embedded into the round-up is simply:


  5. HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st December 2013, 0:29

    So Bernie makes a ludicrous demand for 3 races with double points or none at all, Bernie could teach the chinese a thing or to about saving face. Bernie never had a bad idea in his life, only ideas that other people mucked up.
    Any way 3 cheers for fan power.

    • SoLiDG (@solidg) said on 21st December 2013, 2:18

      Yes, they need to scrap it and just say. Look we thought it could be great but the fans decided against it so we listened. Clear as that!

    • Chris (@ukphillie) said on 21st December 2013, 3:43

      Haha. I love him. Seriously, if you understand his sense of humour you’d find him one of the funniest blokes on the planet.

      He’s winding you up.

      • Lewis McMurray (@celicadion23) said on 21st December 2013, 11:05

        Yeah this is classic Bernie, he’s just trying to get a rise out of people to get them talking about F1. He still has all his marbles and more, he always does stuff like this

        • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 21st December 2013, 21:44

          Yeah, Bernie knows double points are unpopular. He would also know that more double points races would be more unpopular. So he suggests that the FIA make more double points races, or abandon the idea altogether, knowing full well that the latter option is the best for all involved.

          So here is Bernie, offering up a solution to please everyone whilst allowing everyone involved to escape with most of their dignity intact … and the fans accuse him of being senile.

    • Patrick (@paeschli) said on 21st December 2013, 9:34

      I propose to double points in the last 19 races :)

    • Sharon H (@sharoncom) said on 21st December 2013, 22:55

      Translation: Bernie would like to charge the last 3 venues double for the ‘privilege’ of holding a race worth double points.

  6. Dave (@raceprouk) said on 21st December 2013, 0:32

    “The name of the Scuderia’s car for 2014? It will be chosen this coming January by millions of Ferrari fans from around the globe through the Internet.”

    If this is a free suggestion/vote, what’s the bet the name would be akin to ‘Mr Splashy Pants’?

  7. Todd (@braketurnaccelerate) said on 21st December 2013, 0:32

    Bernie, why not just extend the double points for the entire season. That way everyone gets what they want!!

  8. MarkM (@mpmark) said on 21st December 2013, 0:46

    this “ridiculous” double points talk is all about making us fans have something to read and talk about in the off season, the talk was dieing down so what else is bernie going to say but “lets have 3 races with these ridiculous points”. So here we are again.

    I will put money on it that it will never fly…all about press mumbojumbo

  9. Bernie, you need 3 diapers or none of them.

  10. Sean Doyle (@spdoyle17) said on 21st December 2013, 0:54

    So, what… Vettel: 5, Alonso: 14, Hamilton: ?, Raikkonen: 7, Bottas (if no-one between he and Hamilton choose first) 77? Who else has set their eyes on specific numbers?

  11. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 21st December 2013, 1:10

    I’m nonplussed by the idea of Kobayashi returning. I always thought he had more style than substance.

    • Yes and there are some guys on the grid that still share that path like Maldonado Perez and Massa.

    • I guess, like Hamilton, his advantages of overtaking moves were nullified by the DRS. He needs to show consistency and his best pace now, after Perez seemed to outclass him with strategy and tyre preservation. A little more Suzuka, a little less anonymous results (or being taken out in Spa, like others with a chance to shine there after a good Q, like Alguersuari being hit by Senna).

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 21st December 2013, 23:07

      His driving style (loose) should be more effective with the promised more durable tyres and torquey motors of 2014, he was seriously handicapped by the clown tyres of 12 and 13.

  12. David-A (@david-a) said on 21st December 2013, 1:12

    In fairness, it’s going from 1 race to 3 races. Give it eight more amendments and we’ll be at 19 races of double points. Then the ridiculousness of the rule would be cancelled out.

  13. Paul (@frankjaeger) said on 21st December 2013, 1:14

    I sincerely hope the Kobayashi rumour is true and my prayers weren’t made in vain

  14. If all races end up with the double points, it will only be worth for Alonso’s points record written on his helmet
    Or let’s put the points in the races as in the TV show “Whose Line is it anyway” when Drew Carey says: “That joke was amazing! A million points for you”

    • Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 21st December 2013, 6:13

      Maybe it will be double points at all races, and Bernie just wants his golden boy to beat that lonely Alonso record as quickly as possible as well.

    • JerseyF1 (@jerseyf1) said on 21st December 2013, 9:12

      I didn’t know WLIIA had been revived in the US, by the sounds of it Drew Carey is reusing Clive Anderson’s original jokes too!

  15. Alfie (@alfie) said on 21st December 2013, 1:53

    It may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next [Strategy Group] meeting in January

    called it

  16. Calum (@calum) said on 21st December 2013, 2:24

    Bernie has his thoughts on the matter, while we the F1 fans want 0 races at the end of the season with double points, or failing that none at all.

  17. juergen (@juergen) said on 21st December 2013, 2:29

    IF I see another Bernie pic, I would like the title to read: “After a succesful career. blah blah, Mr Ecclestone retires from F1″

  18. dragoll (@dragoll) said on 21st December 2013, 2:38

    Meanwhile back at the Bat Cave, Bernie announces to the FIA that there will be “Double Points for All Races in 2014!”. Upon hearing the news, everyone in Gryffindor and Hufflepuff jump up and cheer, throwing their wizard hats into the air in celebration. All the while, those in Slytherin scowl and bicker amongst each other…

  19. JackySteeg (@jackysteeg) said on 21st December 2013, 2:40

    Double points for the final three races will just make it all the more easy for someone to create an unassailable lead in the build-up to the finale. I can’t believe they found a way to make the double points thing worse…

    Of course, that’s just the opinion of an F1 fan, which means F1 will most likely do the opposite of what I want (but will still claim it was done for my interests).

    I can but hope this is all just to keep F1 in the headlines during the off season and the double points idea will be scrapped next month.

    Perhaps the FIA will give us a Christmas present in the form of scrapping DRS too.

    • Bullfrog (@bullfrog) said on 21st December 2013, 10:28


      If they scrap double points, we’ll only be back to the 2013 rules, with DRS and cars having to start on their qualifying tyres and use the other colour tyre in the race. There are still plenty of rules that should be scrapped or improved.

      Instead, at the next meeting Bernie will pressure the teams into accepting double points for three races…

      • Robbie said on 21st December 2013, 14:08

        I think BE is just faking it at this point, and knows that the double points joke will be scrapped. He’s just sensationalizing now.

        As to everything else being the same as last year…I’m fine with that, or at least resigned to that, except for the DRS which I think is terrible, but on the bright side, the technical regs are now so different that we shouldn’t be able to compare 2014 to 2013.

  20. bamps said on 21st December 2013, 6:31

    What would you guys think of 3 races in the year with double points? But this would only be decided after the race… a big bowl with 3 black balls. If it is a black ball, it is double points! haha :)

    • Lotus49 (@lotus49) said on 21st December 2013, 11:23

      Personally I think that there should only be two black balls, belonging to the person who thought up the idea of double points, after making contact with a size ten, steel toe capped, boot!

    • Yes! A big bingo ball cage with 19 balls with different points percentages that are drawn after the race. And we can have 1 set of high deg tires that is randomly supplied to a team. Have a lottery for starting grid positions. Allow a random car to use unlimited KERs and one for unlimited DRS. Bring back the idea of installing sprinklers for random wet conditions….and any other alterations to traditional racing to hinder any real competition

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