Ecclestone wants double points for three races

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Bernie Ecclestone, Singapore, 2010In the round-up: Bernie Ecclestone says he wants to award double points for the last three races of 2014 or not at all.


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Double-point rule ‘could be scrapped next month’ (The Telegraph)

Bernie Ecclestone: “It may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next [Strategy Group] meeting in January. I think it should be the final three races or nothing.”

Double points too artificial – Ferrari (Autosport)

“Autosport has learned that teams were pressured into supporting the move because they were told by Bernie Ecclestone that television companies and race promoters had asked for a way to ensure the world title battle was kept alive for longer.”

Kobayashi set for F1 return with Caterham (Adam Cooper’s F1 Blog)

Kamui Kobayashi is set to return to F1 with Caterham after emerging as the most qualified candidate for the seat.”

Di Montezemolo looks ahead (Sky)

“I’m in favour, and I’m sure a lot of people, the public, the large public, want Formula One more extreme in which you have you push you have to do your best engine, gearbox, car, maybe one pit stop, not too many because if not it becomes like a circus. But we will see and we have to accept these new ideas and we will judge everything after a while.”

Jenson: The McLaren drive (McLaren)

Lewis [Hamilton] is the fastest team-mate I?ve been up against. Rubens Barrichello could sometimes pull it out of the bag in qualifying and be quick over one lap, but Lewis does that pretty much every qualifying session and he?s also very competitive during the race. A lot of drivers would say that Lewis is the worst possible team-mate to have because he is so fast, but I find that exciting, it pushes me forwards.”

Internet hits to choose name of new F1 car (Ferrari)

“The name of the Scuderia?s car for 2014? It will be chosen this coming January by millions of Ferrari fans from around the globe through the Internet.”

The farce of the 1999 title decider (MotorSport)

“What a performance, though, what a lot of time and effort ?ǣ to say nothing of legal fees ?ǣ had gone into somehow keeping the world championship alive to the end.”


Comment of the day

@JerseyF1 on Luca di Montezemolo’s plan to bring F1 teams together for a summit on the future of F1:

Great idea, get all the teams together to talk. You could give this group a name, maybe “Formula One Teams? Association” or “FOTA” for short. Oh, wait a minute…

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On this day in F1

Lorenzo Bandini was born on this day in 1935. Having arrived in F1 with Scuderia Centro Sud in 1961, and returned on the team when he was dropped by Ferrari at the end of 1962, Bandini became a fixture at Ferrari from 1964. He picked up the single win of his career that year while team mate John Surtees clinched the title.

Two years later Surtees left Ferrari and Bandini became the senior driver at the team. But at the Monaco Grand Prix in 1967, while pursuing leader Denny Hulme, Bandini crashed and was trapped in his burning Ferrari. An age seemed to pass before he was extracted, and after three days he succumbed to the terrible burns he had suffered.

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104 comments on Ecclestone wants double points for three races

  1. Calum (@calum) said on 21st December 2013, 2:24

    Bernie has his thoughts on the matter, while we the F1 fans want 0 races at the end of the season with double points, or failing that none at all.

  2. juergen (@juergen) said on 21st December 2013, 2:29

    IF I see another Bernie pic, I would like the title to read: “After a succesful career. blah blah, Mr Ecclestone retires from F1″

  3. dragoll (@dragoll) said on 21st December 2013, 2:38

    Meanwhile back at the Bat Cave, Bernie announces to the FIA that there will be “Double Points for All Races in 2014!”. Upon hearing the news, everyone in Gryffindor and Hufflepuff jump up and cheer, throwing their wizard hats into the air in celebration. All the while, those in Slytherin scowl and bicker amongst each other…

  4. JackySteeg (@jackysteeg) said on 21st December 2013, 2:40

    Double points for the final three races will just make it all the more easy for someone to create an unassailable lead in the build-up to the finale. I can’t believe they found a way to make the double points thing worse…

    Of course, that’s just the opinion of an F1 fan, which means F1 will most likely do the opposite of what I want (but will still claim it was done for my interests).

    I can but hope this is all just to keep F1 in the headlines during the off season and the double points idea will be scrapped next month.

    Perhaps the FIA will give us a Christmas present in the form of scrapping DRS too.

    • Bullfrog (@bullfrog) said on 21st December 2013, 10:28


      If they scrap double points, we’ll only be back to the 2013 rules, with DRS and cars having to start on their qualifying tyres and use the other colour tyre in the race. There are still plenty of rules that should be scrapped or improved.

      Instead, at the next meeting Bernie will pressure the teams into accepting double points for three races…

      • Robbie said on 21st December 2013, 14:08

        I think BE is just faking it at this point, and knows that the double points joke will be scrapped. He’s just sensationalizing now.

        As to everything else being the same as last year…I’m fine with that, or at least resigned to that, except for the DRS which I think is terrible, but on the bright side, the technical regs are now so different that we shouldn’t be able to compare 2014 to 2013.

  5. bamps said on 21st December 2013, 6:31

    What would you guys think of 3 races in the year with double points? But this would only be decided after the race… a big bowl with 3 black balls. If it is a black ball, it is double points! haha :)

    • Lotus49 (@lotus49) said on 21st December 2013, 11:23

      Personally I think that there should only be two black balls, belonging to the person who thought up the idea of double points, after making contact with a size ten, steel toe capped, boot!

    • Yes! A big bingo ball cage with 19 balls with different points percentages that are drawn after the race. And we can have 1 set of high deg tires that is randomly supplied to a team. Have a lottery for starting grid positions. Allow a random car to use unlimited KERs and one for unlimited DRS. Bring back the idea of installing sprinklers for random wet conditions….and any other alterations to traditional racing to hinder any real competition

  6. Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 21st December 2013, 7:17

    The only way I could even mildly support a double points race is for races that hold higher esteem, or are genuinely physically tougher to drive at.

    So, for example, I might award double points for the the best tracks on the calendar (Monaco, Spa, Monza & Japan). Or I could award double points for more physically demanding races, seeing as the driver has to work harder, they could be rewarded with double points (Malaysia & Singapore perhaps).

    I don’t support the double points rule, but if it had to be implemented in some way, that’s how I’d do it.

  7. Retire already

  8. karter22 (@karter22) said on 21st December 2013, 9:28

    I think some will love Ferrari if they decide to veto this stupid rule!
    Bernie really has lost it now… time for him to go to a retirement home!

    • absolutely! It is been getting beyond a joke now for a few seasons.

      I think there has been this mistaken mantra repeated time and again along the lines of “but look how much he done for the sport, it wouldn’t have been successful without him ….” yada yada yada. There are many, many great leaders out there with vision and drive who could have done what he has done, and maybe have not bled the sport dry in the process. Time for him, and the sport (before it really is reduced to the show), to move on.

  9. Hyoko said on 21st December 2013, 9:45

    Next time BE will be suggesting:
    -Double points for the antepenultimate race
    -Quadruple points for the penultimate race
    -Octuple points for the last race
    This makes it much more likely that the title will not be decided until the last race, which is the whole point of it all.
    Or while we are at it, why not go all the way up to the first race? The last race would be worth 2^18=262,144 times the points. A cool 6,553,600 points for the winner. The only question would be if anybody would care to show up in the previous 18 races.

    • Hyoko said on 21st December 2013, 9:47

      for the previous 18 races, I mean

      • Lotus49 (@lotus49) said on 21st December 2013, 11:19

        @Hyoko, the FIA would love to adopt your suggestion. Just think how much money they could make, from the teams, with entry fees at $5000 a point. Of course this would mean the end of Formula 1. The fees for the following season would bankrupt all of the teams. Bernie and his greedy friends would finally have killed the goose that laid the golden eggs.

  10. Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 21st December 2013, 9:59

    Alo14, my birthday date (14 June) What do you think @vettel1 ,@omarr-pepper ?? Let’s see if i bring good luck

  11. HUHHII (@huhhii) said on 21st December 2013, 11:57

    Thank you for the mention, @keithcollantine
    Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all fellow F1Fanatics!

  12. Robbie said on 21st December 2013, 13:30

    I think this is all just smoke and mirrors at this point. BE will have seen the overwhelming negative reaction to double points, so now is just playing with us and the media to stir up more controversy and more headlines until the idea gets scrapped at the next meeting. He isn’t serious about the final 3 races. He could have just as easily said he thinks every second race should be doubled up or any number of permutations, just like his sprinkler suggestion. Especially the fact that he said ‘or none at all’ has me convinced it will be none at all. And then of course if someone seals up the WDC with a few races to go, he’ll forget the overwhelming rejection of the idea and just say ‘told you…it should have been the last 3 races with double points.’

  13. BasCB (@bascb) said on 21st December 2013, 14:02

    Nice to include that reminder of Ferrari just being out for their own best (as every other team out there probably) – I mean the article about the 1999 Championship finale – no words about ridiculousness and how the sport was losing its core then from Luca.

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  15. Eric (@fletch) said on 21st December 2013, 20:56

    Am I the only one who thinks Bernie’s 3 races idea is his way of cleverly backing out? Sounds like a classic move to me…

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