Raikkonen and Alonso “could be dangerous” together

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Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 2007In the round-up: Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo admits putting Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso together in the same team could create problems.


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Ferrari will keep Raikkonen busy (Reuters)

“Putting together Alonso and Raikkonen could be dangerous. But in Formula One… everything is potential danger.”

Adrian Newey: “We stand to lose the most again” ?ǣ New F1 season just 73 days away (James Allen on F1)

“We?ve probably done a better job than our competitors in developing the best use of the exhaust position from the current restriction, so unfortunately we stand to lose the most again.”

Michael Schumacher’s continuing ‘stable’ condition is hailed as ‘good news’

Schumacher’s spokesperson Sabine Kehm: “It is good news. I don’t want to go into further prospects as it is too early. He is still in an artificial coma.”

Michael Schumacher’s agent describes moment journalist dressed as priest found by security – video (The Guardian)

“Sabine Kehm, Michael Schumacher’s PR agent, tells reporters how a journalist dressed as a priest was found in the former F1 star’s hospital room.”

Lewis Hamilton posts skiing photos just days after Michael Schumacher crash (The Express)

“Lewis Hamilton has angered the online community after posting photographs of him skiing just days after Michael Schumacher was left in a coma because of an accident on the slopes.”


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@F199player reckons one particular rules change helped make F1 cars more reliable.

That graph on reliability really shows how much parc ferme increased reliability from 2003 onwards.

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Happy birthday to Beppe Gabbiani, who turns 57 today.

Gabbiani’s career was a classic case of ‘too much, too soon’. After a decent showing in F2 he hurried into F1 with Surtees in 1978, but failed to qualify on his two appearances.

He returned to Formula Two but was soon back in F1 again, this time with Osella. He contested the first half of the 1981 season and his nine appearances yielded six non-qualifications, two accidents and one engine failure.

Back in F2 he had a strong year in 1983 but missed out on the championship again and never returned to F1.

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59 comments on Raikkonen and Alonso “could be dangerous” together

  1. andae23 (@andae23) said on 2nd January 2014, 8:43

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    One instagram user wrote “you stupid ****, you can’t sing! Stop trending on Twitter, ****!”, while another said “All Beliebers are **** because I happen to enjoy a different kind of music”.

    Others simply abused the pop musician, with many comments removed.

    The singer had already written on Twitter that his prayers are with his family.


  2. Jack (@jackisthestig) said on 2nd January 2014, 9:03

    The only offence caused is to the readers’ intellegence when well established newspapers start cherry-picking quotes from random Instigram users.

  3. geekracer2000 (@geekracer2000) said on 2nd January 2014, 10:10

    Luca must have said this this way on purpose.
    “I think that Fernando knows that he drives not for himself but for Ferrari. And Raikkonen knows that he is in the second half of his career, two very important years for him, with experience and responsibilities.”

  4. WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 2nd January 2014, 11:05

    I simply don’t get the way Hamilton is perceived at the moment. OK, he has transitioned from the innocent young megastar, Senna reborn to some, to a “blinged up” fan of rap music, tattooes and “expressin’ himself”, but isn’t that his prerogative? Why should his every move be criticized for that? Isn’t that “in” with youth of this world? I can’t help but think that the F1 community, of which I mean the fans and the journalists, are becoming somewhat snobby. Is that why the “Frome charmer” has got more fans than “hip-hop Hamilton”, even though Button is unquestionably not on Hamilton’s level behind the wheel? But then again surely Raikkonen’s popularity is solely based on individuality, so why is Hamilton persecuted by the media for that same individuality? All I see in Lewis is a well-rounded, if complex, young man with a well-measured, if emotive, head on his shoulders.

    • Klaas (@klaas) said on 2nd January 2014, 11:55

      @william-brierty Maybe because Raikkonen’s individuality remained unchanged over the years, that is his personality, he’s not playing any roles but himself. And that’s what many people (unconciously maybe) appreciate in a person – simplicity and being natural. Hamilton on the other hand is like that teeneage kid who desperately tries to affiliate himself with a ‘group’. Back in 2008 he was doing the ‘good boy Senna wannabe’, telling the media how he fells like a role model for youngsters, now he’s playing the ‘hip-hop tatooed guy’ and he’s probably yet to decide between a goth and an emo in the future :) Of course he has the right to his life choices (and who are we to judge him) even if sometimes these sudden shifts look ridiculous to some people.
      Don’t mean to be hateful towards Lewis, it’s just the way I perceive his personality at the moment.

      • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 2nd January 2014, 15:38

        @klaas – I don’t agree at all with the way in which you assume Lewis’ new persona is anything other than truly natural. Why would it not be? What motive did he have to abandon his former innocence, other than a pursuit of personal interests and goals? F1 drivers are not music stars, they’re are not sculpted to suit a certain audience demographic, they are simply honed to go faster, so it seems fanciful to me to assume that what Hamilton is is anything than what he wants himself to be.

        Yes, consistency in a personality can be appealing for fans in order for them to put drivers into character boxes, although on that basis you must remember that Raikkonen hasn’t always been his direct, monosyllabic, unsociable and sometimes rude self. That only really emerged after the media attention started to grate against him following his championship win in 2007, but before that, yes, he was quiet and preferred to say little, but he was not in the least bit rude. I think the only dynamic factor in the driver’s personalities other than shifts in interests are fluctuations in media attention, as graphically demonstrated by Alonso following his 05/06 championship wins, or by Webber in his competitive Red Bull years. The very fact that Button managed to prove that heightened media attention doesn’t necessarily translate into an insular personality is much to his credit, and definitely a factor in his popularity.

      • Breno (@austus) said on 3rd January 2014, 0:17

        Are you sure Raikkonen isnt blocking F1 from his real personality? Just like Hakkinen did?

  5. Lucas Wilson (@full-throttle-f1) said on 2nd January 2014, 14:31

    ‘Raikkonen and Alonso “could be dangerous” together’

    Yeah, they could rob a bank or something. Its not like Kimi got payed in 2013 :-)

  6. iFelix (@ifelix) said on 2nd January 2014, 14:55

    Do other people read LdM’s statements the same as I do, i.e. that Kimi is brought to be a better No. 2 than Massa was, but ALO must be aware that if he continues complaining Kimi would be elevated to No.1?

    As a Kimi fan I am deeply disconcerted to see this happening. In all honesty, as much as I wanted to, I see Kimi as the underdog in the season length against Alonso (we’re talking 2013, in my opinion Kimi would have won it in 2005 were it not for the unreliability of McLaren he drove), even with equal opportunity. But man it would be great if he beats him :)

    • Klaas (@klaas) said on 2nd January 2014, 16:10

      I think Ferrari will be mainly focused on the WCC in 2014, that’s why they brought Raikkonen on board. Don’t think they’ll start the season with a clear No 1 in Alonso. Most likely they’ll try to manage things like they did in 2008, the one with most chances for the championship gets to be the ‘rooster’ in late-season.

      • Robbie said on 2nd January 2014, 17:58

        I don’t think KR would have gone back to Ferrari if there was any hint at all that FA would still be their Number One Rooster. If KR is not expecting equal treatment on the team I will be very disappointed in him, and disappointed in Ferrari for turning a rooster into a bootlicker.

        I expect it to be at Ferrari in 2014 like it should be on all teams in F1 at all times…2 gladiators duke it out fairly treated in their team, until the math, as the season winds down, dictates that the team has to go with the driver with more points, at which point a team order or a formal designation of a number one is not needed…it just goes without saying that the one with the lesser WDC chance should not impede the teammate that does…he doesn’t have to go out there and block for his teammate….just not take points away from him wherever possible.

      • iFelix (@ifelix) said on 2nd January 2014, 22:05

        That’s fair if they do so.
        I am a bit concerned that Kimi went to Ferrari for lack of a better choice after Red Bull opted for Ricciardo and financial problems at Lotus.

  7. Robbie said on 2nd January 2014, 14:57

    Yeah I think I’m getting tired of LdM’s proclamations of how it is at Ferrari. I don’t get how a team can use a one-rooster rule and make it about one driver and then say the driver is to drive like he is driving for Ferrari, not himself. They make it about one driver so what is the one driver to think…that it is not about him?

    I don’t think any driver needs to be reminded that he is driving for his team…the ones that provide him with the equipment along with it’s sponsors. I think that when LdM talks like this he is really talking to the secondary bootlicking driver that is really the one driving for the team while the designated rooster drives for himself. SV decided to drive for himself and ignore the team in the first race last year and many revered him for it, so I think LdM must be annoying a lot of people claiming that now two roosters on the team are to be driving for the team and not themselves.

    I would have much preferred, in a two rooster atmosphere, for LdM to talk of two gladiators duking it out on the track and pushing each other to get the cars and themselves to the top, and what a shame that concept is considered potentially ‘dangerous’ rather than potentially thrilling for the viewing audience…you know, LdM…the ones without which racing would not exist.

    Sometimes I wonder why LdM doesn’t just push for single car teams so that he will have a guarantee of having a one-rooster team and a driver that has to drive equally for himself and the team, without any nasty ‘danger’ of there actually being competition between two drivers in a two-driver-per-team format in the pinnacle of racing.

    • Robbie said on 2nd January 2014, 15:10

      Just to add…I am grateful that Ferrari has taken on KR, and I expect that to mean much better things at Ferrari, so I wish LdM wouldn’t sound so concerned about it. There is a huge following of F1 fans who are not fans of one-rooster on a team, so I’m a bit surprised that LdM comes across moreso as being worried about their decision, when he could have come across moreso as being enthused and invigorated about 2014’s prospects, just as the fans are expected to be. After all, nobody likely put a gun to their heads to hire KR….so own it, LdM!

  8. Maciek (@maciek) said on 2nd January 2014, 16:58

    “….But in Formula One… everything is potential danger.”

    I love it when a new year begins with people upping the ante on their own silliness – thank you Luca! This really begs to become a classic: “I’d rather not use the port-o-potties at the track… But in Formula One… everything is potential danger.” Not unlike this.

  9. Matthew Abbott said on 2nd January 2014, 19:15

    Makes me laugh that some journalists sensationalise the fact that Lewis posted some holidays snaps when they have the audacity to impersonate a priest to gain unfettered access to Schui when he’s in a critical condition merely for exclusive access. I do hate the press sometimes!

  10. SauberS1 (@saubers1) said on 2nd January 2014, 23:33

    And Ferrari has many work with this.

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