Stefano Domenicali, Bernie Ecclestone, Korea, 2010

Some teams opposed double points – Ecclestone

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Stefano Domenicali, Bernie Ecclestone, Korea, 2010In the round-up: Bernie Ecclestone says some Formula One teams opposed the plan to award double points for the last race of 2014


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Heard on the Pitch (The Wall Street Journal)

“‘The people that were against it were some of the teams,’ said Ecclestone adding that the critics ‘don’t know why it’s a bad idea. They have no idea why.'”

Engine builder Hart passes away (F1)

“Brian Hart, the engineer whose eponymous company built Formula One engines for the likes of Toleman, Jordan and Minardi amongst others, has died at the age of 77 following an illness.”

Schumacher’s condition remains critical (Reuters)

“‘The clinical state of Michael Schumacher is stable as he’s under permanent care and treatment,’ Grenoble hospital said in a statement on Monday. ‘However, the medical team in charge stresses that it continues to assess his situation as critical.'”

Webber fears for Australian talents

“It’s just so expensive now to get out of Australia and to prove yourself. It’s always been tough, but now it’s very, very difficult, as we’re finding with Mitch and those guys.”

Tweets and pictures

Two legends having a chat at my pit garage in 94… Great guy Brian Hart .. RIP my friend

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Rubens Barrichello: “Two legends having a chat at my pit garage in ’94… Great guy Brian Hart.. RIP my friend.”

Comment of the day

Chris draws an interesting comparison between F1 and football:

People will watch a 90 minute football match with three goals and rave about how great the game was.

Yet the same people will watch a 90 minute race with three overtakes and say it’s boring.

At what point between watching the two sports does the mindset change?
Chris (@Ukphillie)

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  1. @SirCoolbeans
    I think most of us agree that the double points rule is a joke, and hopefully over rulled before season start.

    You make a good point in soccer where a team can snatch a win in the 90th minute, but correct me if I am wrong (Not a soccer or football follower) but in world cup qualifying doesn’t a team get one point for a home goal and 2 for an away goal?? I am not sure if this is an old rule maybe??

    Anyway this rule gives long term ‘proper’ F1 fans a kick in the guts- “We have changed 2014 regulations completely to make F1 better……………………… and if Seb wins again double points in the last race for the ‘also rans’ “.

    I think while the concept of the rule is not only bad enough, the timing is to suggest F1 rulers even 2nd guess their own changes even worse!!

  2. Unless Bernie has (another) hidden agenda he must be finally losing it if refuses to acknowledge the arguments against the double points. On the other hand his own arguments for the rule are – at best – completely silly: The double points making the teams go; “let’s see about this” (as in all the teams but the leading team!) is just wonderful. So wonderful in fact that you can just imagine all the parents laughing around the dinner table if one of the them told the story of his/her 5-year old inventing the idea.

    Thank you for (at at least a lot of) what you have done for F1, Bernie. Now it is time to let go.

    Let’s just hope that Michael comes back with a much clearer mind than this ultra arrogant old man.

  3. Can you Imagine if Bernie run the FA…

    Football boots would be made to ware out every 20 to 30 mins, and players would have to leave the pitch to change them ensuring the field was regularly shook-up

    Balls would be designed to explode at a random point, at which time 20 new balls would be thrown onto the pitch for immediate simultaneous use until 19 of them went out of play to ensure lots of goals

    And goals would be designed to increase in size a the game went on to make sure the excitement lasted until the end of the game

    That would surely make every1 in the world want to tune in every weekend wouldn’t it!

    1. @turbo-era: A fitting description of Bernie-Braindead!

  4. Yeah I too don’t quite get the COTD, or would like to hear an expansion on the point being made. The question is at what point does the viewers mindset change? And it is the same viewer…not like we are talking a football fan vs. an F1 fan. So to me the mindsets are entirely different from the get go.

    Football hasn’t really changed in how long, not to mention it doesn’t require equipment that can color the driver, or the team. And the rules don’t keep changing from year to year, including technical regs that have recently been added to promote passing.

    I have always been fine with passing being rare and special in F1. DRS harms that greatly. So when a comparison is made between football and F1, 3 goals vs. 3 passes, my first question is…was it 3 passes for the lead with 2 laps to go, without using DRS, and with the rest of the field close at hand to capitalize on any mistakes the first and second driver might make? Or was it 3 DRS passes near the start of the race that set the order for the next 90 minutes? Big difference. I’m sure the quality of goals in football can vary too…some being more spectacular, some being more fluky, but overall they get added up and the outcome is determined. F1 can have it’s best passes in a race not even be for many points nor the win, but can be talked about for decades when spectacular enough and obviously not done using DRS. Also, a car leading all day can still have fans on the edge of their seat wondering if it will remain problem free.

    And how is a football game rated if, when all is said and done the game winning goal was scored in the first few minutes, vs. in the last few. Sure fans still had 90 minutes of football in which each minute carried the potential for a goal, so diehard fans might say each game was equally exciting, but I would hazard a guess that if we went to forums post-game there would be a strong contingent that would call the game that had one goal in the first few minutes less exciting than the game decided in the last few.

  5. I also don’t like this idea.

  6. I prefer if there were two races on a weekend instead of double points for one race. I will always like it for the Australia, Monaco, Austria and Brazil GPs if they were two races on the weekend just like the V8s in Australia.

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