“Hamilton is the fastest driver” – Stewart

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Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, Yas Marina, 2013In the round-up: Jackie Stewart names Lewis Hamilton as the top driver in F1 in terms of raw speed.

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Lewis Hamilton can dethrone Sebastian Vettel (Daily Star)

“I think Lewis is the fastest driver in Formula One. He has sheer speed. When he puts in a quick one, he is the master.”

Formula One double points plan ‘will happen for sure’ this year says Ecclestone (Autoweek)

“Ecclestone says the source of the confusion is that he has put the plan up for discussion at the next Strategy Group meeting because he wants to extend it to apply to the last three races. The teams objected to this at the previous meeting so it was scaled back to just the finale. It didn’t deter Ecclestone and he says ‘I have got it on the agenda for the next meeting. I want to start three races again.'”

Williams: long-term stability secured (Autosport)

Claire Williams: “We have stability with our driver line-up, which we are excited about. And the senior management team at board level is also stable and that will remain stable into the longer term as well.”

IWC backs Charles Darwin Foundation’s Galapagos conservation work (FT)

“Eco-friendly projects are proving more popular targets for the largesse of watch brands, many of which are looking to temper their sponsorship of activities such as Formula One, Moto GP and powerboat racing with enterprises that appear more ecologically sound.”

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More thoughts on whether a budget cap is realistic:

Teams have suppliers and they pay their suppliers a fee. That fee appears on their books, but the actual cost to the supplier doesn’t.

If you use Red Bull as an example (and I’m not picking on them, you could use anyone, including Caterham for this, I just happen to know the name of the Red Bull entities I want to use as an example): Red Bull Racing is the F1 team subject to the budget cap. They source a number of things from Red Bull Technologies, a separate company managed at arms length from the F1 team, though both are ultimately owned by the same deep pocketed individual. If Red Bull Racing pays Red Bull Technologies a fee of say $1 million for developing an aspect of their car, the fee of $1 million appears on their books. But if the development of that part cost Red Bull Technologies $10 million, there is a $9 million cost to Red Bull which doesn’t appear on their books.

In some jurisdictions you are forced to submit joint financial statements for a group of companies, so all this expenditure would all show up, in others, you aren’t, so it won’t. Trying to pick which set of rules the teams pick, and then agreeing on a number will be nigh on impossible. An F1 budget cap is needed, but it won’t happen. Not until the team’s hands are forced when we have lost two or three more teams.
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The Argentinian driver, who won the German Formula Three championship in 1995, made four starts for Sauber during the 1997 season, substituting for Gianni Morbidelli. The last of these became notorious as the lapped Fontana badly delayed championship contender Jacques Villeneuve having allowed his rival Michael Schumacher past with conspicuous ease.

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211 comments on “Hamilton is the fastest driver” – Stewart

  1. andae23 (@andae23) said on 20th January 2014, 7:41

    @sigman1998 Happy birthday! :)

  2. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 20th January 2014, 8:20

    As unpopular as the idea of double-points races are, if they have to stay, more is probably better than just one round, as it will blunt the effect.

    That said, I wonder if a tennis model would not be more appropriate – rather than having events at the end of the year that are worth more, there could be three or four races, like Monaco, that could be the Formula 1 equivalent of a Grand Slam, and be worth double points.

    • matt90 (@matt90) said on 20th January 2014, 19:57

      It makes sense for a Grand Slam because they aren’t just more special, they are actually tougher- more sets (for men) and more competitors (for everybody, plus I don’t know if there are any more or less qualifying rounds for low ranked players too besides the main draw). No race should be double points without good reason, and the only one I can think of is double distance, or just run to a 3.5 or 4 hour limit.

  3. obviously said on 20th January 2014, 8:23

    Does anyone else get a feeling, after reading Ecclestone article, that at this point, it isn’t that much about the rule, as it is about just doing it for the sake of ******* off fans and showing us that he can take a **** on us and we’ll be still watching and asking for more.

    I mean, he sounds as if he is completely aware that teams and fans hate the rule pretty much 100%, but he is still trying to push it through just to show them and us that he can screw with us any way he wants.

    Ecclestone should look more into nurturing the die hard fans that some sports would die for, instead of abusing our dedication.

    • Bullfrog (@bullfrog) said on 20th January 2014, 9:18

      Does the other bloke from CVC have to sign off a rule change now Bernie’s no longer a director – or is that just certain commercial contracts?

      I’ll wait and see what comes out of the meeting. There are plenty of ideas about for rule changes, good and bad, that haven’t made it beyond speculation.

  4. rsp123 (@rsp123) said on 20th January 2014, 8:45

    One way to solve the budget cap problem of teams hiding spending off the books would be to introduce a claiming rule. Teams can spend what they like, but all teams would have the right to buy another team’s car for a pre-determined fee – say 50 million. Thus if one car wins by a minute, another team could buy that car and copy the technology. The new car might then be bought by another team, etc, and any big technical advantage would only be gained for one or two races. Suddenly drivers, tactics, and set-up would be king.

  5. Jason said on 20th January 2014, 8:51

    Hope Merc dominates F1 for the next couple years.

    That will ensure Lewis is joined by Vettel as team mate, settling this matter on who’s better between the two.

  6. Alex Brown (@splittimes) said on 20th January 2014, 9:15

    “Martin, you are a cynical chap! Lap 31!” This sport needs more Murrays and less Todts.

  7. GeeMac (@geemac) said on 20th January 2014, 10:01

    Nice to see my musings about the budget cap got a COTD. :)

  8. kpcart said on 20th January 2014, 13:08

    Stewart is right when he says “When he puts in a quick one, he is the master” – BUT that is only for one lap, and as he says ‘when’ he puts it in. there is always Vettel consistently putting in a fast one, and over a whole race distance too, every race weekend, and with better care for his tyres.
    for Hamilton to ever be champion again, he needs tyres that don’t require much driver control, ie bridgestone grooved control tyres in 07-08. I don’t see that happening this year with the likely torque curve the turbo engines will give – he will require traction control.
    Alonso is the more likely to take the throne from Vettel.

  9. I know it’s not going to happen, but I would love to see Ham, Alo and Vet in a rally car on special stages of Rally Monte Carlo or Rally Sweden, like R.Kubica!

  10. antonyob (@) said on 20th January 2014, 17:39

    I don’t think there is any doubt that Lewis is the fastest on a given lap. I also think he’s a lot more like Senna than perhaps even he thinks but Senna was driving in an era where raw pace was the decisive factor. now tactical acumen is at least as important, and in this, Vettel is the master. In fact he’s so good, sometimes he makes it look easy, so it’s dismissed a bit. Fact is the quickest guy hasn’t been winning F1 for a while but the quickest guy in the head has.

    • Juzh (@juzh) said on 20th January 2014, 23:35

      @antonyob
      “I don’t think there is any doubt that Lewis is the fastest on a given lap”

      There is.
      Anyone can be quick once in a season.

    • Guy (@sudd) said on 21st January 2014, 3:32

      One, the role of “tactical acumen,” and mental intelligence in F1 is a myth. That’s just my opinion of course. Two, its offensive. I see it all the time in sports. It’s nothing more than stereotypes. The black athletes are labeled as “athletic,” or “naturally gifted” the Latin athlete is hot tempered because you know…that latin blood. And of course, the European uses his brain, smart, intelligent, calculative….blah blah blah. DRIVERS ARE PAID TO DRIVE! That’s it! If the team hired them for their mental aptitude, they would most likely be engineers. Drivers act instinctively. Look how quick engineers are to try and download feedback from drivers as soon as possible. All of the cerebral stuff is done by the brain trust of engineers, strategists, and team principals behind the pit wall. And the super computers of course. The nice thing about watching motogp is these stereotypes don’t really work. All the top riders are from Spain or Italy. Stoner was great of course.

      • antonyob (@) said on 21st January 2014, 10:18

        It is your opinion, and I think you’re quite wrong. I remember Vettel watching something happen on a screen whilst driving and changing his tactic. Jensen also regularly makes the call. For the record I think Alonso… A stereotype hothead, in your book, is tactically excellent. I find your remarks offensive to be honest. I think Lewis is more ‘Latin’ in temperament than most. I dislike the way you have shoehorned a long forgotten stereotype about people from different nations into a reasonable debate. I have no issue with someone using ‘Latin temperament’ …what you are saying is something quite different and quite uncalled for.

        • Guy (@sudd) said on 22nd January 2014, 1:33

          Wow! Vettel saw something on TV and adjusted. What a genius! Please! If you think Button is making brilliant calls rather than gambling on weather, there is nothing I can say that will change your mind. These stereotypes are alive and well. They are not forgotten. Maybe you overlook them because they favor you, I don’t know. Look at Senna and Prost, and that was not a long time ago. Go back and look at the labels that were attached to them. BTW, there is no such thing as a Latin temperament, its an unfair generalization of a massive group of people. I’m not saying everyone was guilty of it, but it happened and it still happens today. BTW, I did not stereotype Alonso as a hothead, that’s you. I’m saying people of Latin decent get stereotyped as hot headed or feisty…whatever you want to call. Very offensive stuff. I’ve heard them said about Checo, and Maldonado when he was getting hammered for his accidents. Even Hamilton gets a little of it too. He hangs out with a few people from a sector of the “Entertainment” industry that are not part of the status quo and suddenly people say he’s trying to be a hip-hop thug, rapper, etc. BTW, this is not a reasonable debate. Its sports talk! Its conversations were people pick a horse and say X is better than Y without any quantifiable proof. And they don’t have to. It would be like asking a person of faith to prove why we should all follow the teachings of Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed etc.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 11th February 2014, 15:18

            Its conversations were people pick a horse and say X is better than Y without any quantifiable proof.

            Isn’t that what you did for most of this comment thread?

  11. marino said on 20th January 2014, 19:41

    come on…jackie stewart is just supporting an english driver. don’t you know that in showbiz/sports nearly noone speaks honestly and says what he/she really thinks?
    as raw talent(not speed alone, but talent) raikkonen is unbeatable..but vettel, alonso/hamilton(in order) are close.
    as speed vettel is number one, then ham, raikk and alonso.
    as global view of the race alonso with button, than vettel/raikk and last ham.

    hamilton is nearly as fast as vettel, but too error prone. can’t be the most talented out there.
    in 2013 I didn’t see a big difference between him and rosberg(I didn’t see a difference at all, globally). rosberg is actually very good too.

  12. pSynrg (@psynrg) said on 21st January 2014, 11:18

    You know you could title a blog post anything as long it has ‘Hamilton…’ in it somewhere it will get a shed load of replies and they are guaranteed to be pretty much exactly the same as the replies to this thread. The only variable being just ‘what’ it is that sits alongside ‘Hamilton’ in the title…

  13. Hamilton is the fastest, admit it please

  14. Hamilton is the fastest get with it

  15. He has just had bad luck for past few years

  16. Merc will give him quick car in 2014

  17. Vettel i rank third behind alo

  18. That is why all of the teams want him

  19. That merc is beautiful

  20. Vettel is a dushbag

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